I've really liked the current Spider-Man run, so why did this issue suck so bad? It was so juvenile and jokey in a way that the run hasn't been so far. I kind of liked bringing back the robot from issue 7 or whatever it was, but I just thought this thing was very poorly written, which surprised me because so far, I think the run has been great.
Oh, and the stories in the back were utter shit. They should've cut those out and saved me two dollars.
>I've really liked the current Spider-Man run
have a nice day mysterybox apologist
man you must really hate white men if you like modern spider-man writing.
peter gets emasculated and treated like shit to make women pretty much every issue.
list every example
Wrong, and maybe bait.
that's not what happens, but I hate white men anyway
Hey! it's not their fault they're white, they're just born with that condition you know
If your white man doesn't have a mutation in one of seven genes labeled from OCA1 to OCA7, throw the whole man away.
Well, I think you have some awful taste.
But regarding the series itself, I honestly liked the Tombstone story itself.
The mystery bullshit and tried Parker luck shit, however, is absolute trash. And this no. 900 issue is probably one of the worse anniversary issues I've ever read.
Might have been written on short notice.
I've enjoyed everything except what Wells is doing with MJ. After that CB announcement I've decided it's not his fault.
Let it go and grow up, anon. Times change.
>After that CB announcement
Can you please explain?
Peter can't get married.
Nor can he be in a stable relationship because "its not relatable"
Was that a jab at Steve Ditko when Peter says that reading Ayn Rand was an embarrassing phase in college? Also, what the comic calls "The Complete Works of Ayn Rand" is shorter than one of her novels.
Yup, Slott started the trend of shitting on ditko
Frick him. That fat homosexual needs to work on himself a little. The Fountainhead is a good book by the way. It's really interesting even if you don't believe in Rand's philosophy. I don't know why people fly into such a rage whenever she's mentioned.
Anti-communists are cringe, including a 1905-born Russian woman who fled her home during the October Revolution, was malnourished by Bolshevik rule, was dismissed from the university she enrolled in at age 16 (for being bourgeois), and was traumatized as a result.
Because people are idiots and don’t remember how to empathize or at the very least analyze a work for what it is. I have a very israelitey leftist friend who said he loved her work, we both agree it’s the other side of communism where it has solid moral ideas but they break down when implemented in reality. We’re all
Just so divided now that we find it offensive to analyze things and people for what they are, we always seem to NEED to have the world fit into what we’re told we’re comfortable with
it's hard to care for her philosophies when she is so obsessed with america
People love talking shit, but they don't want to be considered out hypocrites for shitting on others directly. So they shit on ideas.
The worst part is that that plot has nothing to do with Rand, Peter ends up supporting the civil rights movement
That's not Miles
By default it can't be bad because it gave us this gem
Wasn't a major part of Jed MacKay's Black cat run that Felicia has to move on from Peter and accept that it just won't ever work out?
nah, mackay just pretty much avoids giving insight in that aspect. he wanted to make his solo runs independent.
They are endgame anon
Honestly a major part of it is that.
But do you expect wells to read it?
Even before wells, Felicia in the Beyond issues was very attached to Peter.
Most of the beyond issues where she's super attached to peter were written by Wells.
There's the o Mackay ones but that had her clearly over it, just still having affection for him.
>they couldnt decide who should hold
There's been 4 (kingsley, macandele, unnamed secret wars one and urich). There were 5 GGs meanwhile. And much like GG, the first always comes back
And sure,but Norman has shown no intrest in that for a while now, which leaves it open for Roderick.
And maybe, but the spider-man rouges gallery is filled with spin off villains, and out of them he's one of the two most enduring (the other is red , guess who)
Make a thread for it. But people will discuss what they want to discuss.
>Make a thread for it. But people will discuss what they want to discuss.
e-girl lesbians and incest porn?
go say that to cartoongays. Don't shit up the only threads that talk about comics
For the animated shit that seems to be it. While with comics its big 2 capeshit or culture war shit.
Its a sad reality, but it is a reality.
a fellow Peterbro
Wait so are they dating or was this just a celebratory thing?
I would be okay with the whiplash we have gotten with the whole MJ thing if Spideycat is a thing, and not just a short run thing.
>I've really liked the current Spider-Man run
have a nice day
the run is based and #900 too
they are making big changes to the standard routine that's all
next arc will begin the most polemic one, peter and norman on friendly terms
i trust wells, its gonna be great
Maybe you just have shit taste.
>Juvenile
What does that shit even mean? You're reason cape shit it should be juvenile you dumb frick.
Shit taste confirmed go have a nice day.
>I've really liked the current Spider-Man run
HOW?
Drugs, obviously baked his mind to such a crisp that he doesn't think about the Spider-story he was experiencing
The art is good, romita jr still has the compositional skills. but plotting sucks
>The art is good
How the frick can you say that with the faces we're getting?
By having good taste and an open mind.
Oh go frick yourself
no thanks but keep crying us a river, sure it'll lead you somewhere
Fans were polite at C2E2 and look where it got us.
nothing wrong with it tho.
we are enjoying the new run.
No black cat. It seems 900 was a one shot just to end the living brain teaser and throw Felicia fans a singular bone
What's this "We" stuff, homosexual?
>t
We actual fans of spiderman who don't live in bitterness for the last 15 years
>Forgot the hyphen
So you're content with editorial frequently shitting on Peter? Why?
Anon's a masochist.
Editorial is fine. The problem is all the whining homosexuals like you, no offense.
And how is editorial "Fine" exactly? How has anything in this run been good? Go on, explain yourself
You mean the editorial that flat out said that peter wont ever be actually allowed to progress is fine?
Like regardless of who you want him to be with, that should piss you off. Unless you actually WANT him to be a perpetually single manchild.
pic unrelated? its idiots like you that wont allow peter to go anywhere and cry like babies whenever marvel tries to. you dont event want to read anything spiderman related you just want to read the same things you read three decades before and you'll want the same three decades from now.
Not him but you can't even spell "Spider-Man" correctly, and this isn't new. What the hell is "new" about any of this?
I know, it's just funny seeing him trying to spin this
Id rather take gwenschizo please.
I dont know, it seems more like someone with a mental thing/shitposting.
Pic related, because anon I like felicia, and im tired of your shit-stirring.
And all you've described is spider-man editorial, which reset spider-man to what he was when they read. Why are you shocked they reaped what they sow?
You don't even realize how toxic is your behavior.
How am i toxic? Ive never sent a deathreat, frick, ive never interacted with anyone at marvel.
All i do is complain on forums about it and pirate the comic.
That's it.
Quit samegayging and answer the question
And now you've resorted to this pathetic shit agin
These posts seem like they were made by someone working at Marvel who keeps getting upset with the direction of these threads and going on the attack.
Kind of like back on CBR's boards.
>throwing a tantrum every single day
>after just 6 chapters
>6 fricking chapters
So right back at you: please Oh go frick yourself
Maybe its because its been an ever-repeating trend rather than just these 6 chapters?
Every record of that shows that they were polite, and that everyone else in the panel clapped.
And there's no one else buying comics anon.
You didn't answer my question, you instead circled back to samegay
Because he has no arguments.
If only. That would take care of some of their problems.
>Please understand, once we get into Chapter 27, things will change for the better
You're just like those "two more weeks!" schizos in /x/
Nice attitude
>open mind
Dogwhistle for cuckoldry.
Spoilers for ASM 7,
Peter doesn’t want to work for Norman and he’s rather focus on MJ so sorry Feliciafans
Vulture fricks him up
Drops him from high up
“Spider-Man’s funeral” two weeks in issue 8
>Peter doesn’t want to work for Norman
but still does? I don't follow
Solicitations kind of spoil it, but the in the issue he still isn’t working for Norman
>Spider-Man's funeral
Once more Cinemaphile spreads fake rumors.
That’s what the issue says, it just has it written for next issue the words on paper
Peter still works for Norman because it’s Marvel
The felicia thing doesnt suprise me at all. I doubt itll go anywhere in this run
Its the usual hyperbolic statement,
Any pics for confirmation
I get the feeling this will lead to even more tension with MJ since she doesn't want anything to do with him. Which will lead to him working for Norman.
She just gets mentioned, she’s acting odd, but she seems to be back to normal in DW so I guess the kids and the guy will get solved by then and I’m not sure if she’s taking over as Spider-Woman because of Timeless #1, but if they do make her a mutant I can see it happening.
Well the timeless thing fudged the details about ben...
God I'm still mad about that. My hope for Ben was actually just shilling for a shitty mini that's been delayed 5 times
We'll always have lost years brother.
maybe someday we'll get JMD on an ongoing again
maybe someday
I doubt it, but he'll keep getting minis. And i can roll with that.
I miss having a side book. Having a book like spectacular or web was good to focus on different things. Are we not getting one because of how shit non-stop did? Is the extra spider-book quota being taken up by Miles and Silk?
I just remembered Slott's coming back on a side book.
Frick sakes
Yeah i didnt want to say that, but yeah.
I would have said 'well FNSM didnt sell that well" otherwise.
Pete hasn’t been able to sustain a side book since clone saga over saturated the market. Of course it doesn’t help that amazing is constantly sold twice a month and the fact that their are 4 non peter spider books running at any one time now
Well peter parker and spectacular both sold well during the 00s. And MK sold well for its first 13 issues.
Hell even chip's spectacular sold fairly well.
So its defintely not a clone saga thing. The spider-book thing might be it.
Slott is here to save you you anon!
Spectacular by zdarsky only happened because Slott was doing some weird CEO Parker Industries shit in ASM and it alienated normies, so they needed a proper spider-man comic and for that reason they scouted zdarsky
Spectacular came way after ceo peter, that almost coincided with the end of his run
>Spectacular came way after ceo peter,
books don't get made in seconds. Anyway, I'm retelling what zdarsky said in an interview
>proper spider-man comic
>time travel is key to it
You know it does illustrate just how much of a "dorp of water in the desert" the run was.
>odd
Anything to do with moira? Because at the hellfire gala, him and MJ don't seem to be together.
That’s in ASM 9 so still have to wait, she’s not in the issue but I’m just mentioning she’s acting odd in her other appearances in this run. DW will be set up with the Hobgoblin arc probably and then major setup in the Hallows Eve and I’m guessing an x men issue
tick tock
just six weeks from now
it's coming
six weeks to what spic?
He means this Peter will will never truly be free of Gwen.
that's not gwen
oh that's here allright
hey, Gwenschizo, just confirming that you're still set to commit suicide after #10 drops and Gwen doesn't come back as a mutant, right?
She wlll probably get revied after Dark Web is over.
I have no doubt Gwen will be revived at a later date. Her children are hellspawn so the pieces are already available to achieve an unholy resurrection. It'll just be a sign Spider offices are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Give it up Normangaygs Sins Past is non-canon and that will never change, Gwen will ge revied as mutant if anything since that explanation would make the most sense. Her surviving thanks to a Self-healing factor and the ability to create certain objects, like creating a duplicate body of herself along with her memories and then buring burying the duplicate in her own grave would work for me.
og gwen stacy is irrelevant
made for carrying (black) Osborn babies
No
Yes. She was always created for marvel’s creator’s BBC fantasies, but Blacksborn is the only right way to do it.
why are you pretending to be me youre not me
Spider-Gwen sucks I wish she would get thrown off a bridge and die.
can anyone translate spic?
>Norman bad
>Gwen mutant
>Noo don't make jokes about Sins Past
>Reading? Lol, I don't do that
Gwenschizo's every single post summarized. If in doubt, this is what he's talking about
tick tock normangaygs
Perhaps you would prefer Gwen like this I know I would.
>Hulk Gwen
perfect, made for Norman's fat Goblin wiener
Jesus Frick, Norman FRICKS
No revied hulk Gwen get even with Norman by stomping into the ground and squishing him into a pancake therfore killing him.
no, they are going to make love
No Norman will squashed like a pancake by Hulk Gwen and and then we will get to see Peter and Gwen make pancakes amd meat out of his dead body, I'm sure Norman meat tastes delicious.
>I'm sure Norman meat tastes delicious.
that's what Gwen said
So nothing about where the story is heading?
You have it in hand?
Any panel wasted on this prostitute by any chance?
it's strictly setup
all comes from the linked video
unlikely, just mentioned
So why do you shitpost against Mary Jane so bad?
Because i have nothing in my life after mi papi left
Being an insufferable c**t is no way to live
What are you suggesting?
>Black Cat will make good on her old promise
Wells sounds committed.
I hope they handle it without humiliating Spidey.
Vulture has constantly touched spider-man and tried to kill him. Felicia's not done shit.
And honestly at this point i feel that spider-editorial loathes that run, because its almost never brought up again.
I think that run was not supposed to be canon until it suddenly was?
I dunno, it was always supposed to be canon, and everyone treated mac-venom as canon from the start.
I think spider-editorial just didnt like how the characters were written? At least current spider-editorial.
Why so salty over Felicia having Peter's back?
at risk of stirring the shitters in this thread, he's likely a maryprostitutecuck
that's how maryprostitutecucks always react
>inb4 shitposting
This is true and we all know it. Gwengays are way more classy.
As a Gwen fan, I humbly request that you put an end to this malicious slander of Mary Jane Watson's reputation and to silence yourself post haste.
>maryjeancucks
who cares about those 2 idiots with their eternal whining?
just recognize their shitpost and ignore them
oh shit didnt remember
is wells good referencing stuff like this?
or its more like editorial moving the strings?
Wells has only referenced the Immortal Hulk stuff with digger. Outside of that zilch.
are you fr? It's the worst work with contunity we ever seen
>or its more like editorial moving the strings?
editorial. Doing any kind of work. Insane are you?
>without humiliating Spidey.
not in current year
So this pattern again?
.
It's not just Wells though, this comes from behind as a repeated pattern
somebody somewhere is build up to something or at least that;s the feeling it gives
That's also Wells tho.
That part was written by Kelly Thompson, probably the only good page she's ever written
I remembered that being wells for some reason. Arent the two friends?
Nah im not, i do like Felicia as Peter's main support. Just saying that the only thing from MK they ever reference is mac-venom, and not even wanting to do so.
The man has good memory
Oh look Hispanic browse bleedingcool too
Spoilers for hobgoblin arc
Looks like we know who hobgoblin is and he's a father
Mary Jane's new boyfriend?
Why the FRICK are we even doing this with Ned again? Better question, why do they insist on using Hobgoblin anyway? He sucks!
Kingsley's Hobgoblin is great.
He's redundant. I don't accept substitutes
Again, id say that he's much less redundant than any of the other villain/hero spin offs within spider-man's world.
And right now Norman isnt even usable as a villain!
Not to mention that Roddy is just good.
You're not selling me on Hobgoblin. I'll just make that clear right now.
I mean, have you read the original storyline by Stern? Or even his story with Norman in Goblins at the gate? Or even Axis?
Id recommend them all.
I don't know what's hard to get or why it's a controversial opinion. I just prefer Norman
I prefer Norman too, but i love Roderick. My heart is big enough for both.
Same. Traditional goblins and hobgoblins are different types of goblinoids. We can have both.
Do wonder what my toughts on them would have been if TAS had made Norman HG like it was considered.
I also like Harry but just under JMD, trying to make him into a grand evil mastermind is always a miss.
Honestly hobby was more coniving than Norman and he was less emotional than Harry, I think he fit a perfect middle ground of making a goblin a legitimate arch nemesis without making it personal. Did you not like sterns run?
He's a plotter but not one that goes out of his way to fight spidey
Is this just driving you nuts or something? You're not changing my mind, friend
I’m a different anon coming in, though you didn’t answer my question, did you not like sterns run?
I just don't care for Kingsley. Hobgoblin himself is a mantle they couldn't decide who should hold, and even Norman had a period of organized crime before focusing solely on Peter. Hobby just doesn't do it for me because everything he is he owes to Norman. At least the copycat chick villains are cute
I think people are just curious why you don't like Hobgoblin and giving reasons why they like him to open up dialogue?
Not to mention that he has a wholly different niche, outside of superior (which happened while Norman didnt remember who peter was) Norman has constitenly not cared about the criminal underworld, while that's Kingsley's scene.
>Norman didnt remember who peter was
It also helped that Ock was more aggressive than Spider-Man usually is. It's a good exploration of what Norman would be like if he didn't know Peter's identity and Peter took on a Punisher meets Police State role.
Well more like re-doing the spectacular plotline but in the comics and with ock as the protag.
That's because you're smoothbrained
Guessing it’s Goblin Queen brainwashing him
Or they'll pull a "he's always been HG!!!" which would be even dumber now.
Oh defintely.
As a big Roddy fan, i hate this so much.
Who exactly wants ned to be the real hobgoblin? He's got nothing on him
Why do we even need Hobby anymore? He's just stand-in Green Goblin
I dunno, i think there's certainly stuff you can do with Roderick that you cant with Norman. Mostly the whole "overly pragmatic stuff". And the Axis book showed that well too. And if we can have 10 different symbiote characters, there's no issue with HG.
Admitbely right now we dont have Norman as a villain either.
He's lurkin rn.
How long till Rich from bleeding cool sees this and makes an article about Ned?
If that's Ned I'm taking it as corporate synergy.
hmm right anons were telling about that
So after all the spam about the idea of MCU Ned becoming Hobgoblin, it turns out comic Ned might become Hobby again.
>again
Eh that's debatable really. He's only ever been so retroactivley and that was retconed itself.
But yeah this might be MCU lite.
Not lite, i mean done to make it accurate and all.
read tracy scops' run his writing is better than slott and nick spencer.
I'm glad it's not Paul.
Paul was Queen Goblin all along.
...I'll be honest. I'd be way more interested in drag queen Paul as a character than anything we'll get from him.
Would marvel be willing to do it?
In the 1980s and 1990s? Maybe. Probably not now.
The concept doesn't show the politically correctconsideration for readers who identify as transgender. Pity.
But it'd be good rep! You can make them sympathetic and "good" eventually if you really want.
I'm he only one that can't stand it anymore? Cinemaphile Cinemaphile Cinemaphile Cinemaphile Cinemaphile always want to talk about the same stuff over and over again in the most superficial level or just shitpost all day. why we never had threads about stuff like P. Craig Russell works? or a "A Contract with God" made by Will Eisner, "The Incal" anybody? shit!!!! what about trying to finally translate that weird Italian Mickey comic?
>what about trying to finally translate that weird Italian Mickey comic?
this one? I thought it was translated
https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Mickey-Mouse-Mystery-Magazine
I've read and collected all the stuff you mentioned and I still read Spider-man storytimes. It's not either-or
mysterybox is wells' idea. He said he's retreading his new mutants run
Not surprised at all.
Was the resolution to that shit?
Yeah we know that already.
>Thank you for sharing Anon!
The cornrow wave hybrid hair is so distracting.
>Kicked puppy
Sinless Norman is a crime against the laws of nature.
I don't like that expression on Norman.
>Spider-Man's Funeral
I'm sorry for doubting your word anon. Thanks again for sharing.
Isn't it kind of sad that the best spiderman artist is romita jr? If he wanted to he would never work in the industry again, but he's working there again despite the restrictions
Is he the best? His art looks like shit.
At least bagley's art , while not as good as it used to be, is competent.
Romita jr staging is superior to most artists working on the big 2
Maybe it is, but everything else of his art looks really bad, especialyl his people. And that's the main thing in a comic like this.
Maybe he needs better inkers or he's just too old now.
I am disappointed my fellow JRJR enjoyer can't remember the hyphen. I still support the square man.
I think you responded to the wrong post?.
Nah. I'm responding to the anon who called JRJR shit. That anon was responding to the anon who forgot the hyphen.
Oh then that's me kek.
I did like his art, but i feel he's been kinda shit since his stint at DC, y'know?
I do understand! It's an acquired taste. For me, it's got a nostalgic feel to it.
I wasn't raised on his work, but it reminds me of some of my favourite cartoons growing up. Certain cartoons get criticised for their art style, of course, but I've loved them.
There's something about it that makes me feel like I'm reading a comic that was made with heart and wasn't just pressed out as quickly as possible.
I also love the way he does eyes. It's a personal preference, so I don't expect others to support my view. Personally, I love his work.
For me its more so that seeing his art in the current state reminds me of how much better he used to be.
And idk sometimes it does feel rushed nowadays
Ps: I also love stylization with desings.
As another anon who likes the current run, but didn't love 900 much, I just ignore the threads. Y'all are crazy as frick
>ignores the original thread
>only responds when people are "rude"
Nick Lowe is such a troll
On the one hand twitter, on the other. That's beyond tame for internet standards.
you missed all the other times he used RUDE as an excuse. He's just trolling at this point
oops wrong pic well whatever
But he's rude there.
Also how is mackay actually so based?
problem?
lowe is absolutely right
Based Lowe for shutting it down with no room for doubt
Lowe is a child if he thinks Criticism = rude
Everyone is much ruder here.
i see the maryprostitutecucks are back at it, uh? they just never learn
You know that the number of people is visible right? You're not fooling anyone lol.
They have an stupid idea of how Spider-man is supposed to be and talk with such disdain and ignorance about anything else.. It's vomit inducing.
they never stopped tho?
full whining and wound licking mode around
Wait a second CB wrote this....could this mean....
Its becoming canon baybe.
jesus what's wrong with our regular marybawdgay?
like seriously bros why is he like this?
Why do you hate Mary Jane so much?
For starters the fact that he's one?
Absolutely boring, the definition of a failed product.
Spiderman is better without a girlfriend or support cast
Spider-man is defined by his supporting cast though, what good Spider-man stories don't have a good supporting cast?
To be fair, you could argue death of jean dewolfe?
Tho obviously she is one, but outside of her, its just DD there
All of them ? The only good story with a supporting character was when Gwen was killed
I'm interested to know which love interest you think is interesting and why
>Absolutely boring
Spoken like a true casual. But I will ask you to explain your point without hyperbole
Whats wrong wirh the Felicia gay here.
What's Lowe meant to do for Peter and MJ when CB opposes the marriage? He reports to his boss.
Ill grant that, he does seem like he's being used as a bit of a scapegoat.
But that might also be because he's far more antagonistic than CB is.
After that announcement, I see Lowe as a store manager who is passive aggressive about store policies.
You remember the manager because he's the one you deal with as a customer.
He's actually just an unprofessional employee with anger management issues who is tired of hearing criticism for carrying out his assigned duties.
Yeah that's honestly waht i think the case is.
I do doubt he's pro marriage but he seems to mostly just care about miles/spider-verse shit than anything else.
To be fair the thor issue was REEEALLY bad.
>To be fair the thor issue was REEEALLY bad.
Yes but Lowe was supervising editor on that issue
Oh for sure.
Its co, mods dont do shit.
remember miles thor issue? Only writer took the blame. NIck Lowe didn't do anything to protect his employee. Editors are living a good life
I miss good JRJR so much.
Unrelated thing, why have the sinister six become so ubiquitous when they made no appearances from the 60s to the 90s?
HOPE YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY
>copying us
Wait i dont get that part. Does he mean tagging?
Felicia is a failed character. Her books keep getting cancelled
Maybe because they work better as a mini? Even then, her and MJ are getting an ongoing in December.
Also garbage character
I see the 2 maryprostitutegays will keep replying to each other two hundred times again
>2
there are 3 regulars afaik but yes to the rest
I see the Feliciagay will keep samegayging for two hundred posts again
Shit I didn't even realize 900 came out. What even happened in it? I haven't read since they wrecked Spencer's run.
Peter kissed felicia at the end, Ock's tentacles are now a dog (kinda) and there's now an ULTRA Living Brain. Also an adaptoid with the s6 powers.
So outside of the first thing a big ball of nothing.
Yikes
asm 900 isn't even mentioned in the following issue. Typical filler
This thread is a good example why this board needs user id numbers like /misc/
Spiderman works with a rotating cast, fixed characters slow down the story
That's why their stories flopped, gwen solo has nothing to do with spiderman, because she's not interesting herself
Huh? Spider-man has some characters that need to be there, like JJ. Most "new" supporting cast members are utter bore.
I dont see an issue with this.
obviously so anons know who's posting all the "Maryprostitutecucks", and to see whether it's a term used by multiple anons or just one anon posting all this crap
One anon changing devices/ips clearly.
Maybe another one that likes to shitpost.
All the messages are written in the same way too.
It definitely used to be one person but I think the gwenHispanic has started doing it too. I think he's stuck on "marybawdgays" though
>imagine living so pathetic to need this kind of validation
Spotted the maryprostituteKEK
JJ is more of an antagonist than a supporting character, he has that limited role and works well because of that, we don't need to know more than necessary about him. Spider-Man antagonists have always been more interesting than support characters
Eh JJ is more support than antagonistic tho, Norman is an antagonist that doubles as a supporting cast member.
And i mean maybe, but the cast has always been key, yet felicia was the last good addition to it.
They don't work well as anything other than plot devices. like i said a rotating cast is better for stories, continuity was bad for spiderman
Eh, spider-man's had continuity since day 1. He continuously grew out of high school and into college and then graduated for example.
please ignore and report gwenshizo. He's roleplaying as anti-mj shizo again
All these anti-MaryJane post and gwenshizo posts came around the same time another Norma thread was posted
HMMMMMMMMM...
>Norma
>Norman
Flawless logic.
>maryprostitutegay is a schizo
who could have guessed
Even the Gwengays are calling him out as a role-player.
It might even cut down on replies to himself.
I'm pretty sure now he's disguising himself as a Felicia one to stirr shit up.
That anon either has no life or has a desk job with a computer.
Why not both?
Gwen has a maggot eaten corpse.
It really is pathetic that after five years one anon's autism against MJ, derailing every Spidey thread and story time, has not been punished by mods. Nothing. Why are our mods so shit? Nothing changes around here. Hell I worry about Ms Cinemaphile next month
yeah you just hate people telling you the truth
No what loathe is you spamming constantly and proving you have no life outside of here
I can’t take anything Lowe says as bad now, Cebulski is obviously the one pulling the strings, reading the fan responses in the back of issues, he takes on questions that fans will like and gives answers fans with responses that should get them to question what they’re reading
Stop defending Lowe
>Lowe is the only editor that approved Clone conspiracy. It was pitched multiple times and every time it was cancelled till Lowe came along
>Lowe for years tried to bring JJ Abrams on spider-man book, thinking that hollywood celebrity is what spider-man comics need
and look at his twitter, he's clearly trolling the fans. He's on it along with cebulski
Lowe is behind the Ben hate, that i buy. But the MJ stuff is clearly not on him. Or at least not just him.
Lowe is a shit editor but what else is new?
>Our
>We
>Us
Plural pronouns.
CB didn't force Lowe to write this
I get their aim is changing the Status Quo in big ways but why does it feel so slow? Or my impatience has just grown over the years?
I dunno anon, if anything this feels like a run dedicated to not changing anything or well changing stuff to how it was during BND roughly.
About time they changed plenty of the old stuff for good. It's a welcomed addition.
>impatience
Same as mine bro, same as mine.
Remember last time when it suddenly became a DD fight? Fun times.
>not a mutant
Altough now aunt ana has dementia? That's...needlessly cruel i feel.
>How dare you, Moira
That choker totally clashes with Mary Jane's outfit! Androids have no fashion sense.
Is she an android? Wasnt she a mutant?
Honestly ive zoned out badly out of the x-men books, not a fan of this whole krakoa thing.
All rational people are not fans of the Krakoa thing
Hickman made it so Moira lost her mutant powers the way Storm did that one time and then had her frick off to be a loose end when he left.
Then worse writers came on and immediately picked up that loose end, having her skin banshee and wear him to get through a krakoa gate (somehow?), then die and come back as an android. Also now she's evil I guess
Already didnt like Hickman's mutant retcon (and in general krakoa homogenized everything too much for me) but this sounds bloody stupid.
Hickman very obviously left moira as a loose thread to be picked up later on but they decided to jump on it straight away and make her super edgy and evil
How would you have written it, so that it was good?
Using the same set up or are we allowed to change it?
You decide,
Okay keeping the idea similar and using this run
>We have a heartfelt conversation between Flash and Peter, maybe even going into how regardless of what he's done Peter will always be Flash's hero.
>Just use the sinister adaptoid, cut out the ultra brain entirely.
>Focus on spider-man taking it down, maybe also giving some actual introspection on his life at this point in time.
>Use it to lay hints for the big mystery the run is building up to/use it to showcase his tenacity during his history.
>Peter's able to beat the adaptoid. Reveal it was all Ock's plan (maybe to see if he's really spider-man due to that afromentioned mystery box) and have a fight between the two to close it.
>Peter then gets a suprise b-day party where his friends and family are all actually happy to see him. Keep the kiss if you want.
Who was the best writer Spider-Man ever had?
either roger stern, peter david or tracy scops
Johnny is the true soulmate.
Poor Peter on the outs with his soulmate yet again.
who's worse Hispanic or feliciagay?
Spic, Felicia gay doesn’t shit up every thread
he can be funny sometimes though not mexican btw
It had all the right messages just the writing was lacking a bit.
Stolen from TinkerSpider on CBR who watches video reviews
[Spoiler]
>So apparently Peter does have second thoughts about Norman overall. "There is something going on with Mary Jane" but it's unclear if that is part of the reason why Peter rejects Norman as he thinks Norman is setting him up, or if the MJ stuff is separate. Peter doesn't see the Goblin-Spider suit Norman has for him. The Vulture takes him up high and drops him without webshooters. Next issue is "Funeral of Spider-Man."[/Spoiler]
[Spoiler]
>He really liked it, best issue since #1.
>Repeats that Peter is finally skeptical of Norman and having his sins cleansed.
>While Peter takes his tour of Oscorp, we see Kamala Khan is interning there.
>MJ is also at Oscorp, with Paul. It's awkward. They all still apparently talk like they are under NDAs and Zeb has his hand over their mouths and they only hint at what happened, but apparently we get a sense of who is more apologetic.
>MJ is there to get Norman's opinion on the Krakoa drugs she's pushing. She is about to go to the Hellfire Gala.[/Spoiler]
Dammit I meant to spoiler that I'm on too many websites.
>MJ getting advice from Norman
Why? She knows Tony god damn Stark why not go to him? Or Reed?
Tony Stark is anti Krakoa and so is Reed.
so it's better to get advice from man that killed her child?
And her best friend.
Yes
She doesn't know that he did in this universe since OMD unwrote the memories of Peter and Mary Jane.
Mary Jane did choose to trust him during Spencer's run so I guess she thinks that she can tell if cleansed Norman is bullshitting her.
that was regarding harry. Mj wouldn't trust norman to help aunt anna. Wells is doing classic dan slott's tactic. Plot over characters
Reed isn't anti-krakoa, he's anti-Charles and Magneto for mind fricking him, she should by all means trust them both more than Norman Osborn.
Hell, Peter's thing must've been pretty fricking bad if she'd go to Norman "killed her good friend and also her daughter" Osborn over him.
And you don't see how that would make him look slightly biased to someone who doesn't know about the mind frickery going on?
Peter has less experience with pharmaceuticals than the more experienced guy who made a living selling them.
I'm not saying it's a good idea but damn, going to someone accessible who has a lab now (How?) and equipment to analyze something is not a hit against Peter Parker.
>And you don't see how that would make him look slightly biased to someone who doesn't know about the mind frickery going on?
And don't you see how this is irrelevant because MJ doesn't know that?
We actually don't know that.
Yeah he did. I was curious about the Jean DeWolff appearance and it's mentioned in the Gwen Stacy mini.
Oh, right the gwen mini said so. I think before it it was just nebolously a chemical company that also did electronics i guess.
>military contracts, electronics, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, etc
>wanted to use cure for cancer to kill Deadpool
Oscorp is here for you, true believers! Pay no attention to the goblin behind the curtain.
I like that Norman curing cancer is something that was mentioned three different times.
>in #7 or...
Norman will continue to cure cancer until people realize he can do more than steal the ideas of other scientists. He can do it. He's got the range.
In MK, deadpool and in the "world without peter parker" bit.
>MK
I believe Peter criticised him for not having discovered a cancer treatment as of then. Little did he know, Norman was a bigger butthole than he had imagined.
Well Norman said
>I dont give a rat's ass.
>Norman is gif
The covers could be making the content more dramatic again.
>unintended Sins past reference
>kek
Norman is for Emily and Kolina only. He's too good for gwen.
Countess Katarina Karkov too. Killed by Doctor Doom.
Eh, she's a slott character and a bit boring.
Norman Osborn is for Mephisto.
It's Norman's longest lasting relationship.
Norman's comapny didnt sell phaurmaceticals to be fair, mostly military shit and chemical stuff.
Altough i guess the latter is vague enough.
>Kamala is getting gobbed
Wow kino.
>Kamala Khan
isn't miles morales enough? Why do we have to go through this
Didn't Liz take control of what was left of Oscorp in a merger to create Alchemax?
>Repeats that Peter is finally skeptical of Norman and having his sins cleansed.
Pretty sure this means they're going to double down on Sinless Norman with Peter having to learn that he's wrong to not rely on the guy who killed his GF/miscarried his baby/sold Harry to the devil/tortured him to become his heir/kidnapped his aunt/killed Flash (yes, even if he's back) etc. etc.
I mean, NiceNorman getting a mini all about trying to reform confirms it but ugh.
I'm not disputing your logic, but if Flash gets the parentheses treatment, Mayday (Peter isn't aware there was a baby, but we know she existed!) deserves it as well.
It does seem like hte mini could be the end of it.
Why was david michelinni so obsessed with cocaine.
So.... our reg maryprostitutecucks are still in whining mode or they moved on to suck their own dicks?
Wow, you sound so obnoxious like a snotty fat schoolyard bully, do you pretend to have any sore of dignity with what you are typing? you can't even up with better insults than a child, you probably are a child, it would explain much
There was an anon who said on a storytime thread that they were 15. It could be them?
they always do both
Both things. They are maryjeangays anon, that's what they do.
MJ booba and foota kino incoming
Gleason is a good artist.
I don't get this. Peter and Logan are friends, and Logan knows how important MJ is to him. Why would he go for the kill?
Hell Logan knows MJ too.
But y'know all mutants are cultists now.
You just know in the next decade or a few decades after that, future Marvel writers will look at Krakoa with shame and write stories making fun of that period in the comics
They didnt do that when Morrison started the trend of them being overly agressive and militaristic.
I dunno, i doubt it.
Even if now they're making the whole minority thing really strange since if you read too much into it...
>They didnt do that when Morrison started the trend of them being overly agressive and militaristic.
That's mainly because Marvel was into having its heroes be aggressive and militaristic
See also: Ultimates
Sure but only x-men kept that attitude.
Why have the mutants formed an ethnostate and openly despise normal people? Why do mutants try to separate themselves from humanity when they are humans? What happened to change the hearts and minds of others? They really just said frick it and want to disconnect from the earth.
Also, why is there no deeper conversation around the selective immortality they've created? Is it the council's decision on who gets to come back, cause they can't feasibly bring back every mutant who has died an untimely death, especially in the long run. [spoiler]
Even beyond the etnostate my issue is that it basically just makes every mutant part of the same "side" regardless of their individual character motivation, and that's just boring at the end of the day.
He didn't seem to remember her at all in the Gala.
Between Lowe and White you don't have half an assistant editor.
He sniffed out moira. And he knows MJ is being held hostage by her. Dramatic cover basically
>MJ booba and foota kino incoming
The mutant age of Spider-Man begins here anons.
So.... our reg spammer is still in spamming mode or they moved on to suck their own dicks?
threadly reminder that Ghost Rider, the dumb fricking joke character from the 70s that was created purely as a cynical cash grab "what if a guy with a flaming skull rode a motorcycle and swung around a big fricking chain lmao" character, has a more engaging, entertaining, and respectful to the main character's characterization and lore comic book run than the most popular superhero of all time who hasn't had a good run in 15 years
how does this feel, spider-gays?
Don't they keep replacing the original character too?
The ongoing doesn’t get canceled like ghost rider so, enjoy him while you can.
I like the current Spider-Man, but Ben Percy's Ghost Rider might be my favorite series Marvel is doing right now.
That happens often, smaller characters have less of an editorial heavy hand.
Altough doesnt johnny steal half his stuff from ketch?
nice bait casual
now go kill yoourself
What's with the modern Marvel comic artist's obsession in making the Spider-man symbol glow in some way shape or form?
haha they're selling miles morales for free now
>interlocking fingers hand holding.
Lewd.
You know the best part? Ediacaran night Gwen Stacy died was made before pathetic 44 year old Hispanic even thought of the faceless Norman cope. Actually, this gives me idea of minimalism/suprematism the night Gwen Stacy died piece made purely in symbols and geometric shapes, but I’m not sure what it should contain besides a purple hat and twisted neck vertebrae. Also, not sure about composition.
Imagine this, but in purple/green and with broken necks.
Since we're talking about Norman. I love the art where he got shot.
The family plot is badly written Shakespeare and Norman is Ophelia-posing.
Mass shooting at Marvel HQ when? I'm tired of these cynical fricking shits.
We’re trying to get the Hispanic to fly to NY and do it, but he is still resisting the suggestion.
How do you survive on Cinemaphile? This forum is full of cynical bastards.
Even cynical bastards are taken aback by the absolute state of marlel
I would take cynical bastards any day over seeing someone's severed dick. Mods rarely visit Cinemaphile
Even cynical bastards on Cinemaphile wish for a happy relationship.
Tomorrow - Gil Kane’s The Amazing Spider-Man Artisan Edition. If someone bothers to rip this book
I can't take Morbius seriously anymore. He was a nice C-lister who showed up in animated series and stuff every once and a while, but now I can only think of the stupid memes.
>IDW
Why?
This must-have volume features some of the most historically important stories ever produced with Marvel’s famed wall-crawler, all meticulously scanned from the original artwork!
Gil Kane’s The Amazing Spider-Man Artisan Edition presents each page in what appears to be black and white, but has actually been scanned in color. Readers view the art in its most natural form—blue pencils, ink gradients, and editorial notations all clearly visible—so they can (ahem) marvel at all the little nuances that make original art unique.
This volume contains the infamous three-part drug story that was not approved by the Comics Code Authority (Amazing Spider-Man #96–98). The second three-part story features the legendary six-armed Spider-Man saga (Amazing Spider-Man #100–102). Additionally, one of the most famous—and most shocking—Spidey tales is included: the death of Gwen Stacey! (Amazing Spider-Man #121). You can’t get a better line-up of Spider-Man stories than this!
Gil Kane is regarded as one of the finest comic artists in the history of the medium. His dynamic sequential storytelling abilities, coupled with impeccable draftsmanship, make him a true artist’s artist—as this book will attest!
>15 cents per copy
that's all
osborne crying after his dick was ampututated by mysterio
hey bro, could you post pics of the original and alive Gwen Stacy in the current run? 🙂
8ump
leak asm early please or i will kill
random killing or a specific victim?
i will kill you steve
but my name is Nick!
Feels to me like it was written before the current run was even outlined.
What a tease to hint only ONCE on who captured Otto only to be revealed it was for another one off story about who Spider-Man is. Another throw-away issue of little importance.
Its just a generic annual plot really.
Reminder that Gwen's book comes out tomorrow anons.
Nice, we'll see her get blacked and simp for Green Goblin wiener again
>Nice, we'll see her get blacked and simp for Green Goblin wiener again
Not gonna happen you can be sure of that.
Remember now anons MJ is really a prostitute and bawd.
There's no need for such insults anon. She's just overall boring and a waste of panels, no matter what new they spin try to give her it just doesn't work.
>There's no need for such insults anon. She's just overall boring and a waste of panels, no matter what new they spin try to give her it just doesn't work.
They should have had the Goblin thrown MJ off a bridge long ago.
she's not even worth an epic death tbqh
waste of a good death
marvel probably thinking the same thing what to do next with such a pointless character
I know what do with shitty MJ she should be blacked for the prostitute is.
gwen won't appear in asm #10. You can have a nice day already
Normangaygs kill themselves soon.
Why not have ben reilly date gwen stacy? Editorial doesn't know what to do with ben and they want gwen to return. You can easily justify her ressurection by saying she's a clone. And because she's a clone peter won't need a reason to interact with her and both of them can frick off to their own separate title
Ben has Janine, and Gwen's been cloned hundreds of times already.
>Janine
you're under nostalgia. She had what? 7 appearances before beyond? That ship was more forced than the one with jessica carradine. Not much ground to work with either of them though unlike with betty or gwen. They can easily milk nostalgia boner most fans have if they go for gwen route and if ben dates gwen he's safe from chasm bullshit
>Ben already has a soulmate for starters,
I like mc2 too but it's not a good ship. Janine is just mj 2.0.
>dismisses Janine because of nostalgia
>pushes Gwen despite her only appeal being nostalgia
>actually think hooking them up will somehow stop them from shitting on Ben
>you're under nostalgia. She had what? 7 appearances before beyond?
She's a pillar of the defining Ben story and has more character than both Gwen and MJ combined, at least until Zeb finishes ruining her and her husbando anyway.
>Janine is just mj 2.0.
All they have in common is their hair.
I disagree that she has more character than MJ, but she was defintely integral to ben. Just as integral as Kaine really.
Clone Gwen > Gwen
Ben already has a soulmate for starters, and why would Marvel have Gwen frick a white guy anyway?
Oh, and fun fact: that's Peter in that panel.
Well let's say Ben and Gwen end up with each other and Peter thinks she just another clone, so he doesn't interact with her but unknown to him she turns to be the real Gwen who was revived somehow and Peter never finds out the truth.
And the point of that is?
Gwenschizo has not thought that far ahead, he just wants to shill his mutant Gwen fanfiction summary
Simple really Ben and Gwen would end up being the perfect couple thay's why oh and Gwen would end up thinking she is a clone not knowing she is the real one, years later she finds out the truth by accident.
Oh and her finding out that she the real Gwen after all doesn't really matter since by then she is deeply in love with Ben and she simply comes to the conclusion she no longer cares about Peter.
No.
Janine looks like diet soda MJ. It's like they want to prove Ben wants Peter's life.
>No.
YES!!! it's the perfect solution ship Ben and Gwen together but make the real Gwen think she is a clone.
fricking have a nice day already, no one gives a shit about your dead prostitute waifu. Stop shilling this moronic idea.
It's not stupid at all did you forget already that Marvel originally planned to replace Peter with Ben by revealing he was the orginal. a similar thing could be done with Gwen let her think she is a clone and have her find out the truth that she the orginal years later, but by then it makes no difference since she loves Ben and does not care for Peter anymore.
fricking do like Gwen and throw yourself off a bridge, c**t
How about Normangaygs throw themelves off a bridge instead.
My answer is no. Frick off.
didn't you use to say clones doesn't matter?
That anon roleplays as anyone he doesn't agree with.
Yes I know but the catch would be that she found out that she the orginal and not a clone years later.
Life Story did that idea, and its just beyond boring.
Janine was good.
Her backstory and personality isnt all that much like MJ's, and her whole "broken person" thing fits with Ben like a glove.
Really the only similarity is that she's a readhead.
Because she was in jail at the end of redemption? And she got focus on the most acclaimed ben reilly centric story so it follows. No one cared about the other love intrests they tried to set up.
And spider-girl even had her be the mother of ben's kid.
>and her whole "broken person" thing fits with Ben like a glove.
but mj's theme is the same? Peter is broken and mary jane is broken and they work so perfectly because of that similarity
Kind of, but its a different kind of broken. MJ and peter have the mask theme, janine and ben both dont feel like people at all. And both have a fundamental lack of a basic identity.
>Life Story did that idea, and its just beyond boring.
Gwen was very wasted in that story overall. I don't really understand why Zdarsky just didn't have the normal The Night that Gwen Stacy Died and had it sort-of happen later in combination with a Clone Saga storyline. It seems pointless considering the end result is the same, just convoluted. It's like he couldn't figure out a way to split Gwen and Peter up and had to make her a clone to get rid of her.
Well everyone was wasted in that story really. For some reason Felicia is wholly abscent and peter dated jessica jones despite her also having been a PI for a while.
Or how it makes peter seem violent to MJ.
Or when it made kraven venom.
Yeah, that is fair. But there is a difference id say.
Janine just feels like who MJ would be if she didn't have people who cared about in her life. I would have preferred if they used someone who didn't look so much like MJ to tell a variant story.
Honestly i feel if she had a different hair color people wouldnt make the comparason as much.
Nope, and a role that really should have been her was given to Jessica Jones for some reason.
And honestly i think the story gets the praise just off the idea being good, but it handles it consistently really poorly, and is a really weird misery wank untill the totally unearned happy ending (MJ and Peter's relationship is an aftertought up to that point). And a lot of the time things are different totally unrelated to "real time" or "peter aging".
I think he's overrated but idk if the safe type.
I think so too. Unfortunately this is a medium where costume design and appearance mean everything.
If appearance didn't matter why do fans care that Gwen Stacy stole MJ's hair?
I don't ship Ben with Peter's major love interests. I can never accept Janine because she looks like MJ's replacement goldfish.
I'm saying Janine acts like an alternate universe What if MJ.
Well i think they cared with the hair thing because they gave MJ a bad one during that time lol.
Eh, i guess that's fair. I just that think that janine as a character offers the most to Ben. She's also a good parell to Kaine, which was intended.
60s hair is bad. I watch Star Trek and think MJ got it lucky.
I think they need to work on how Ben is used before they think of pairing him with someone else.
That makes her original haircut more miracolous.
I mean sure. But making him a villain is definitely not the route. Especially when they could have let him keep the dignity of his death.
Well he was used in a spider-gwen book afterwards too.
We are lucky the artists were sensible men of their times.
I agree. The rumors about Hollow's Eve don't inspire confidence. It looks like Ben and Janine's story will be a redactive What if Peter And Mary Jane Were Evil?
If Hobogoblo turns out to be Ned like the pencils from JRJR suggest with him holding a baby, Hollow could be Betty brainwashed by Queen Goblin, as solicits confirm she's in Dark Web.
I'm one of the ones who were pushing the spoilered theory tbh.
I really dislike the idea of that story being told with Janine. It's already bad enough.
It would suck for Betty but she's got enough stories to fall back on to keep the change from getting picked up permanently.
Ben eventually will become fixed because he's popular enough and his last 2 forrays into villany got undone, but Janine isnt that lucky.
>Well i think they cared with the hair thing because they gave MJ a bad one during that time lol.
I love curly hair MJ so I've never gotten the hate kek.
90s curly hair MJ looks good, short curly hair MJ is for heatens!
90s curly hair MJ looks good, short curly hair MJ is for heatens!
Give me the power of Grayskull and call me a heathen then!
I have short curly hair and I love hers. I will accept criticism but it will never change.
There's no accounting for taste lol.
I think it'd look better if it was someone else drawing it maybe.
>If appearance didn't matter why do fans care that Gwen Stacy stole MJ's hair?
well what do you think? They even gave mary jane a different haircut to avoid suspicion
It's not a variant story, it's Ben's backstory and there's a purpose to the similarity, Lost Years is about Ben's journey on accepting himself.
>For some reason Felicia is wholly abscent
holy shit I completely forgot about that. She didn't even get a nod?
It's weird how overrated the story is. I get it, truly, it gives Peter a happy and meaningful ending, but I can't get into the changes made to the timeline.
Broken? Funny that you use that word. Conway agrees that MJ is perfect for Peter because she was broken.
>Life Story did that idea, and its just beyond boring.
I mean what do you expect from zdarsky? He's boring and safe type of writer
>I've really liked the current Spider-Man run
my condolences. I hope you cure your shit taste soon.
Gwen is for...
Built for BWC
>gwen remembered that she's a clone when she looked into webs magazine
so what peter have pictures of gwen stacy's death there?
and that's it. Even when gwen has her memories intact she chooses warren. One true pairing
That's a clone but the crack ship is funny.
>Hispanic is 44 years old
should be relatable to you spic
how the frick do we still not have a Warren vs Norman story? The pieces are all there and no one has picked them up.
Last time someone touched Warren it was Slott, are you sure you want that?
fair enough. But in an alternative version of our world where Marvel hired slightly more competent writers to work on the Spidey title, why has no one bothered? I get that Jackal is a B-lister (or C even) so he doesn't show up as often as out main man, but still.
speaking of
>"Shall we rock-paper-scissors it, Warren?"
>The other man frowns, but his annoyance is quickly erased by the presence of his deepest desire lounging naked on the bed next to him. It wouldn't do to become upset now when he could finally have her. Even if he had to tolerate Osborn. "Fine."
>They throw their hands and of course Osborn wins. wienery bastard.
>But she had wanted them and his rapidly beating heart couldn't deny her.
>Before Osborn can move closer to her, Miles grabs her in a tight embrace and steals her breath away. He would have this, a kiss before the other man could lay claim to anything else.
>She melts in his arms and he is hopeful she'll turn Osborn away, but when she breaks the kiss, she sighs a soft "Norman, come here," and wraps herself around him, letting Osborn's groping hands mark her skin.
>"Let's get on with it," Miles snaps, agitated, and settles behind the two figures.
>Osborn doesn't bother looking at him, but the smug smile fills him with hatred. You're here for Gwendolyne, he reminds himself, focus, ignore him.
>He picks up the lubricant and applies it generously. Osborn doesn't bother waiting for him and blunges into Gwen, making her gasp and throw back her head. He picks up a steady rhythm and Gwen is a moaning mess, nails dragging long lines across the man's skin.
>Miles doesn't want to be left behind, so against his better judgement, he spreads her and shoves his wiener inside her. She stills now, head turning to catch his eyes, tears streaming down her face.
>"Gwen, oh Gwen," Miles murmurs and starts to pull out, but her hands shoot out and stop him.
>She slips her arm behind him and forces him deeper, whimpering against the pain, but refusing to let him leave.
>Osborn bursts out laughing. "Oh, Warren! Don't look so concerned. Gwenny here likes it rough. Just enjoy yourself and frick her until she bleeds."
>He wants Osborn to shut up, but Gwen's eyes reflect the truth. He kisses her and loses himself in her body.
Leak thing (take witha grain of salt): Paul fantasies about beating Peter while MJ watches and tells him to stop. So he's definitely a bad guy.
yeah yeah we get it. You self-insert as paul gwenshizo
I'm not gwenschizo anon...just heard this leak from someone i know.
Hence saying "take it with a grain of salt". Since it seems iffy.
>Stan: John, Make MJ look shittier than mai waifu Gwen
>JR: ok
>MJ still looks better than Gwen
absolutely mogged.
>Why isn't Harry's Father here
Peter was promised the red heads would outnumber the non-gingers. The lack of red head supremacy displeases a ginger enjoyer, as it rightfully should.
>who?
'Edge of Spider-Verse' Writer Alex Segura on the Makings of a Classic Spider-Man Story
On ‘Marvel’s Pull List,’ ‘Edge of Spider-Verse’ writer Alex Segura explains why he loves to see Spider-Man put up against insurmountable odds.
To celebrate his 60th anniversary, Marvel’s Pull List is going all-in on everything Spider-Man. Last week, EDGE OF SPIDER-VERSE writer Alex Segura helped kicked off this spectacular Spider-month by breaking down AMAZING SPIDER-MAN (1999)’s “Coming Home” story arc with hosts Ryan Penagos and Jasmine Estrada. Over the course of their discussion, Segura revealed his favorite kind of Spider-Man story, as well as the elements that stood out to him in this run by J. Michael Straczynski and John Romita Jr.
Before he dove into the mechanics of classic Spider-Man stories, Segura recalled his first encounter with the character – and with super hero comics in general. “My first super hero comic was a Spider-Man digest. It was a reprint of SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN MAGAZINE (1968) #2, and that's different from THE SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN, but it was this black and white prestige series that Stan [Lee] and John Romita did in the 70s,” he shared.
“It was a really terrifying Green Goblin story, and I was probably too young to be reading that, but it burned into my brain, especially that opening sequence where, for some reason, George Stacy is showing a video of the Green Goblin to Norman Osborn and you see Norman Osborn drenched in sweat. He's like, ‘I'm the Green Goblin,’” he continued with a laugh. “It was pretty intense!”
>edge of spider-verse
I sleep
For characters like Silk, bad decisions are only one part of the challenges they face. After being bitten by the same radioactive spider that bit Peter Parker, Silk endured a decade locked in a bunker before going on a lengthy search for her missing brother and parents. “I really loved how her origin story started with a lot of trauma, and then she literally works through that trauma on the page by going to therapy,” Goo explained. “So I just thought, I kind of want to see where all this therapy and working on her stuff takes her.”
While Peter Parker’s stories set the template for that mix of heart and supremely bad luck, those qualities live on in newer characters like Silk. “I never thought as a kid I would ever read about a Korean-American superhero – and a woman – living in my favorite world,” Goo shared. “So I really loved the idea of exploring her Korean-American side in a very subtle way.”
After co-existing in different universes for years, Peter Parker and the other Spider-Heroes all teamed up for the first time in 2014’s SPIDER-VERSE, which was inspired by Slott’s time working with developer Beenox on the story for Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions. In that game, players could take control of Miguel O’Hara’s Spider-Man 2099 or one of three Peter Parker variants.
“It bugged me that with the mechanics of the game, they didn't get to team up because it's a one-player game,” Slott said. “I was the only guy who got to put them together in the cut scenes.”
After that, Slott started making plans for the comics crossover that would become SPIDER-VERSE. While that massive story brought dozens of preexisting Spider-Heroes together for the first time, it also introduced new characters. As Slott explained, “My favorite alternate universe Spidey is one that I lucked into when I was working on SPIDER-VERSE with Olivier Coipel.”
Marvel going on a spree with spider-verse shit content
“And then after that, I was always hounding my local pharmacy, like the newsstand at the Eckerd Drugs and places like that,” he said. “I had a comic shop across the street from my grandparents’ house called Frank's Comics and Cards, which was a block away. So whenever I had a couple of bucks to rub together, I'd walk over there and buy some comics. Spider-Man was my big obsession – Spider-Man, the X-Men and Batman, stuff like that.”
While revisiting “Coming Home” in particular, Segura realized exactly what it was that makes a Spider-Man story stand out to him. “It made me think about what my favorite kind of Spidey stories are, and it's these kind of stories where Spidey has no reasonable chance of winning,” he explained. “Logically, he should not be in contention here… There's an issue of AMAZING [SPIDER-MAN], AMAZING [SPIDER-MAN] #350, where [David] Michelinie and [Erik] Larson do Spidey against Doctor Doom and, you know, going in, there's no way – he should not be competitive with Doctor Doom, but he still finds a way out of it.”
“It's all about working the corners and using his scientific brain to figure out a solution, and that to me is classic, just peak Spider-Man,” he added. “I think [Straczynski] nails it out of the gate, which is so impressive. To add all this stuff to the mythos and then still tell a really classic Spider-Man story is really hard.”
To further emphasize his point, Segura brought up THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN (1963) #45 by Lee and Romita. “It set that tone. He's fighting the Lizard on a train. He's totally beaten; his arm is broken. But then he figures out, like, ‘Let me put him in the cold car.’ He uses science; he uses his brain. That's what kind of sets him apart from just a strong super hero,” he said. “He's got this scientific mind that can help him in these situations.”
In “Coming Home,” this applied to Morlun the Inheritor, who “wasn't like a typical super villain in a costume, spouting out insults. He was like a force of nature coming towards Spider-Man. As we read the issues… he wasn't dressed like a super villain! He just looked like this. This was his clothes. He's just so powerful he doesn't need to make jokes or insult Spider-Man because he knows he's going to win.”
“That's what, I think, made me almost forget that the story ends in a positive way. Obviously, hundreds of other SPIDER-MAN issues come out, [but] I was like, ‘Wow, is he going to – like, this is the end?’” he recalled. “I don't want to get too far ahead, but there are moments even then when Spider-Man starts to doubt, like, ‘Is this the end?’ too. It was done in such a great way that you almost start to believe it too.”
Follow Segura and other creators like Caio Majado, Dan Slott, Pere Perez, Karla Pacheco, and Martin Coccolo through the Spider-Verse in EDGE OF SPIDER-VERSE (2022) #1, on sale now, and don’t miss Segura’s guest spot on Marvel’s Pull List, available now!
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Spider-Man Writers Unpack the Joys of the Spider-Verse & All Its Heroes
Spider-Verse writers Dan Slott, Karla Pacheco, and Maurene Goo explain what sets Spider-Man and all his variants apart from other super heroes and more.
From the streets of New York to the far reaches of the Multiverse, the adventures of Spider-Man are some of Marvel’s most epic sagas and affecting personal tales. To celebrate Peter Parker’s 60th anniversary, Marvel sat down with writers Dan Slott, Karla Pacheco, and Maurene Goo to talk about what makes writing Spider-Man and the other Web Warriors so special.
“Every Spider character needs to goof up,” said Slott, who wrote the original SPIDER-VERSE during his iconic decade-long run on AMAZING SPIDER-MAN. “Other super heroes can do everything perfectly and have capped teeth and stand arms akimbo, but your Spider characters really foul things up and then have to fix it. That's what's fun. They're like you and me. They screw up all the time.”
As SPIDER-WOMAN (2020) and EDGE OF SPIDER-VERSE (2022) writer Pacheco explained, “They feel bad about the screw-ups, just not bad enough to stop screwing up. I think that is something that's very human and very relatable about the Spidey characters in general.”
“They have a lot of heart in everything they do, whether or not that leads to good decisions or bad decisions,” added Goo, who chronicled the super hero adventures of Cindy Moon in SILK (2021). “I do think that it's always their compass, and I find that really appealing about all of them.”
>“They have a lot of heart in everything they do, whether or not that leads to good decisions or bad decisions,” added Goo, who chronicled the super hero adventures of Cindy Moon in SILK (2021).
I, too, chronicled Cindy's adventures with goo.
>“Every Spider character needs to goof up,” said Slott, who wrote the original SPIDER-VERSE during his iconic decade-long run on AMAZING SPIDER-MAN. “Other super heroes can do everything perfectly and have capped teeth and stand arms akimbo, but your Spider characters really foul things up and then have to fix it. That's what's fun. They're like you and me. They screw up all the time.”
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We know that's how he thinks, that's how he wrote spider-man. As a man-child that goofs everything up. Not a real person that can both make mistakes and do thngs well.
before the thread dies, the Marvel Puzzle Quest came is gonna have an Oscorp Spider-man card (lmao already?) and here's the artwork for it.
It's very green.
When one scene was supposed to introduce the British Spider-Man variant called Spider-UK, a happy accident led to the creation of another Spider-Hero. “It was in the plot that [Spider-UK] had a mixture of Captain Britain and Spider-Man costumes with a big Union Jack on it,” Slott explained. “And when Olivier drew it – in his mind – Spider-UK meant punk, so he drew the character we know as Spider-Punk.”
Although Spider-UK was patched back into the issue, Slott and Coipel gave Spider-Punk a full introduction in AMAZING SPIDER-MAN (2014) #10. “The next time he was introduced, you're supposed to see Superior Spider-Man and I gave him two henchmen that were alternate Spiders, and one was Spider-Punk,” Slott continued. “But Olivier was just so happy that he made Spider-Punk the biggest character on the page.” Since then, Hobie Brown’s iconoclastic rebel has grown into one of the Spider-Verse’s brightest stars, taking on President Norman Osborn and his corrupt allies in the SPIDER-PUNK limited series.
Across the Spider-Verse, villains like Osborn are another one of the most compelling parts of Spider-Man’s mythology. “There's no one like Spider-Man, who can go head-to-head with someone who's just flat-out terrible and just have fun with it,” Pacheco explained. “You can really just kind of dig into just some really reprehensible people, but it’s fun.”
In her SPIDER-WOMAN (2020) run, Pacheco highlighted Jess Drew’s rogues’ gallery by bringing together villains like Octavia Vermis and Lady Bullseye for the Anti-Arach9. Alongside that team, Pacheco and Pere Pérez also introduced Octavia’s baby hippo-ankylosaurus. “We’ve had too many cute little anti-heroes,” Pacheco said. “I needed an adorable, terrible villain, so now we have Chonky… You don't necessarily need to have a really rich backstory for the villain. I mean, you can, and it's great, but you can also just have someone be evil and terrible and it's fun.”
The explosive growth of the Spider-Verse has made room for plenty of new villains, but it’s also put a new spotlight on more colorful heroes like Peter Porker, AKA Spider-Ham. “I love a good pun. It's so silly. It's so outrageous,” Goo said. Throughout PETER PORKER, THE SPECTACULAR SPIDER-HAM (1985) and the hero’s other adventures, Porker faced cartoony threats and pun-based villains. “His best enemy is Moosesterio, which is brilliant,” Slott added.
While the specifics of every Spider-Hero’s story might be different, the tales of these Multiversal web warriors are united through Spider-Man hallmarks like “thwip,” the signature sound of a web-shooter releasing a web. “I spend so much time trying to figure out like if the ‘thwip’ needs three ‘I’s or two, depending on like how far it's going,” Pacheco explained. “The onomatopoeia is my favorite part of writing any Spider character, especially.”
“As somebody who grew up always loving Spider-Man, any time you get to hit a big beat – it's just the happiest moment,” Slott agreed. “Writing out ‘thwip’ makes me happy.”
Marvel is celebrating Spider-Man's 60th anniversary all month long! Stay tuned for more Spider-fun right here on Marvel.com.
>Moosesterio
I'm sorry but if you love Otto and don't stan Dr Octopussycat we can't be friends.
>The explosive growth of the Spider-Verse has made room for plenty of new villains
who?
no, honestly, who?
meahwhile JMS is writting a thanos story. Why couldn't they get him for amazing fantasy 1000? Do they hate money?
That or JMS really really doesnt want to work in spider-man.
no bump?
Thread is already past the limit soon it will die with nought to replace it.
THEN CREATE A NEW ONE AND LEAK ASM AND GWN
>ASM
Norman shows up and Peter's life is still shit
>Gwen
we are reminded yet again that she thought the Green Goblin was hot. She still remains dead and irrelevant in ASM
you fricking shitskin you have to storytime it for me or else
IT'S NOT AVAILABLE FOR ME ANON. PLEASE FORGIVE MY TRANSGRESSIONS. I HAVE FAILED YOU AND I LIVE IN SHAME. YEARS LATER I WILL LOOK BACK ON THIS DAY AND CRY.
You want Peter to be married to MJ so he can be happy.
I want Peter to be married to MJ so i can say that the people that frick him the hardest are redheads.
We are not the same.
Gwengays btfo yet again
>that image
You mean frick him over in a platonic hatred way right?
Maybe, maybe not.
>Forever, Norman
>the message
>Dear, Peter
Pete needs to get a restraining order on Norman while he's sinless. The villain wouldn't care once tbe sins return but at least he can say he tried.
Peter is Norman's son-waifu.
>that which is not meant to be combined
The combination of those two words has me cringing into the next century anon.
Its like daugtherfu but for the opposite gender id say.
He's his dream son
>Still needs to get a restraining order
That sounds slightly less horrifying. Thank you.
I mean he should. But even sinless norman is still rich, so that wouldnt be too effective.
>once a creeper stalker always a creeper stalker
Sinless Norman might respect the law enough to leave Peter alone if he maintains a hardline stance but you've got a point anon.
Man is too entitled.
And that's the issue id say.
Even sinful Norman cared about harry. Untill American Son at least.
we can move here if you guys still wanna chat. Sorry, no leaks
shouldn't norman be depressed about harry's death? Now that he's sinless and all
Apparently sinless Norman is a good actor but wells really should have established "feels bad about Harry" before using him like this.