Jake Lloyd claimed people *on the set* were laughing at him. Maybe he was just a pissy little b***h the whole time?
Jake Lloyd claimed people *on the set* were laughing at him. Maybe he was just a pissy little bitch the whole time?
Jake Lloyd claimed people *on the set* were laughing at him. Maybe he was just a pissy little b***h the whole time?
You're laughing. I'm pronouncing Coruscant wrong and you're laughing.
Everyone who ever spoke it out loud prior to May 19, 1999 pronounced it Korris Can't.
George Lucas got what he deserved
Jake Lloyd is a felon and an addict
Yes, but only because of the traumas he experienced as a child
>get laughed at
>trauma
getting bullied by groups of adults in weird situations would be a trauma
everything's a fricking trauma to you pussies
Whenever I would play guitar in front of my parents, ALL they would comment about is the faces I made. Not a thing about my playing. Similar themes throughout my childhood. It does get irritating because you get the feeling that everything you do is just fodder for people to make fun of you.
wow your parents legitimately hated you and your playing
did you finally quit like they wanted?
>It does get irritating because you get the feeling that everything you do is just fodder for people to make fun of you.
If you legitimately feel like this it's because you're a weird loser. They are laughing at you. But you would to if you were in their shoes.
you deserve some trauma
I bet you kick your dog you homosexual.
found the incels
>is a 9 year old
>is in Hollywood
You see the problem here? The mockery is just what we KNOW of
>years of constant teasing from classmates
>not traumatic
>coked up pedo adults yell at you and try to rub their genitals against you
>fat autistic sperg on Cinemaphile pines for this and gets mad at an 8 y.o.
Truly astonishing mental moronation.
Yeah like monk orders. Because Jedi are space monks.
You want horny super heros running around cumming on everyone and lightsabering up space malls? Or do you want structure?
Lucas raped him
Hell, Spielberg probably did so i can see Lucas doing it for the club but is he that much of a creep? I don't know.
Sounds like a weak willed little poofter to me
Nothing is anyone's fault
midichlorians scrambled his brain.
Dude was not only bullied all throughout school because of his atrocious acting, but his parents pissed all his money away
At least hes not a israeli pedophile ~~*producer*~~
oh who isn't? quit gatekeeping you fat neet
>continuing the cycle of abuse just because Mike Stinklasa told u to
Post your addresses and I'll murder all of you
He's also schizoprenic.
i wonder if he's one of the schizo posters on Cinemaphile
This truly is pod racing
did star wars really make him schizO?
So am I :/
Been sober almost a month tho after a recent relapse.
As for the felony? Don’t drink and drive.
Did you hurt someone anon?
damn Jake, I'm sorry, hope you get better.
The people who wrote the laws are evil and break them all the time.
He should have went to Africa to lift weights for a couple of years.
It's not his fault he caught on to people laughing for the wrong reasons.
Nah, they have lots of AIDS there.
George Lucas may be a major autist, but i dont see him being a bully. And considering he autistically controlled every single aspect of the prequels, i dont see anyone daring to bully a kid on set
guarantee it was israeli princess hershlag
imagine being bullied by herschlag while she wears her princess costumes and she keeps making you lick her feet and kiss her buttocks ha ha it'd be horrible
imagine if she sat on your face lmao
Ahahah wouldn't that be terrible, being a young boy and having teenage Herschsclag boss you around and make weird demands of you like helping her practice kissing for when she gets a "real boyfriend' lol lmao can't imagine how awful that would be, scarred for life.
A few years ago Jake was streaming on Twitch and people were asking him Star Wars questions on chat and he actually replied to a few of them
He said that Natalie was often the only other kid on set with him and that she was nice and they would eat lunch together
He probably wanted to poke her.
Nah, she was too busy bullying Kiera so hard that she doesn't even remember doing the movie.
George literally had to demand Jake do shit every day. The kid did not like him. It shows in the clip where they pull him out of the podracer.(he was already being a b***h about commands in the podracer)
Apparently Hershlag was such a c**t on set that Rick McCallum told another producer that they wished they had cast Kiera Knightley as Amidala instead of her handmaiden. Allegedly this is how she was cast in Pirates of the Carribean.
Objection, hearsay!
Pirates script was originally an adaptation of the LucasArts game Monkey Island, and the producer contacted McCallum to try to hire Hershlag. He told they guy to get this other chick instead because she's not a spoiled twat on set.
Apparently she b***hed about the heat and sand in Tunisia so much, pretty much everyone in the production was hoping George would fire her skinny ass and just let Kiera take over.
Anakins sand quote in Aotc must have been a pun against her
I heard she regretted signing on and would regularly hide in trailer and refuse to come out.
>regrets Star Wars
>agrees to Your Highness 8 years later
>hehe jake loyd was a little b***h
>OMG GROWN ADULT WOMAN DAISY RIDLEY WAS HORRIBLY ASSAULTED BY MEANIE COMMENTS SAYING SHE CANT ACT!!! THIS IS AN ABOMINATION!!!
Kek
Yeah that about sums it up.
jay is such a b***h
Disney actually protects its actors unlike George Lucas
https://www.theblaze.com/news/former-disney-star-says-she-was-molested-for-years-as-a-child-in-hollywood-and-no-one-did-a-thing-about-it
Mein Fuehrer... Steiner . . .
George Lucas fricked up by casting a toddler opposite a teenage chick, when he should have cast a teenage boy who not only could act, but the story would then have made sense.
Where were her parents when all this was supposedly going on for years?
Yep
It's impossible to read these characters as potential romantic interests, he literally has to sit on a counter to reach eye level with her
Anakin should've been like 14
> It's impossible to read these characters as potential romantic interests, he literally has to sit on a counter to reach eye level with her
> Anakin should've been like 14
Not just the romantic storyline but the bit about Anikin being “too old” to start training as a Jedi makes no sense, when we later see literally dozens of kids the same age as him being trained as Jedis.
This would also make sense for his “midichlorian count” being off the charts (another stupid concept but whatever…) and Qui-Gon insisting that because of that, he was worth training despite being a teenager and because of THAT, he fails his training and becomes Vader.
> Don't see the big deal,
It's moronic.
> The main problem is that Hayden and Natalie had no chemistry and Lucas wrote Anakin with no redeeming qualities so you have no idea why Padme would marry him.
Which is why someone should have stepped up and told Lucas that he can’t write for shit and should stick to world building and SFX (which he’s really good at).
Not to mention Anikin magically aging a decade between the first and second movies, while Padme remains the same age.
>Not just the romantic storyline but the bit about Anikin being “too old” to start training as a Jedi makes no sense, when we later see literally dozens of kids the same age as him being trained as Jedis.
He was too old to start because of the emotional attachments he had formed. He wasn't like too big or anything. He had just lived too much of his life outside of the Jedi Temple. The danger in training him was it would required to break those attachments, which have a history of coming back to bite the Jedis EXACTLY LIKE IT DID.
>He was too old to start because of the emotional attachments he had formed.
And this would have made FAR more sense had the character already been a teenager, then Yoda's argument that he was "too old" would have been valid and Qui-Gon insisting on training him anyways (proving Yoda's point when Anakin eventually falls to the Dark Side).
>If Anakin wasn't so young he wouldn't have cared so much about being taken away from his mother
Except Lucas is a shitty writer and Anakin didn't give a shit about his mom even though he was an adult and could have gone back to Tatooine to check up on her. Of course the Jedi could have simply sent a ship a week after he first arrived and rescued her.
>Where does the film say it’s the first day of school for those kids? They could be 2 years in already.
This is just stupid, how would the Jedi even locate (in an entire fricking galaxy of sentient beings) a Force sensitive 2 year old? The kids would have to at least be kindergarteners before anything could be detected and training take place.
If Anakin wasn't so young he wouldn't have cared so much about being taken away from his mother and that aspect of the story (losing his mother so he kills the sandpeople and becomes obsessed with saving Padme) wouldn't work
> the bit about Anikin being “too old” to start training as a Jedi makes no sense, when we later see literally dozens of kids the same age as him being trained as Jedis.
Where does the film say it’s the first day of school for those kids? They could be 2 years in already. Your criticism makes no sense, 18 year olds would still receive training. That doesn’t disprove that a 4 year old is too old to start.
Nah it's fine. If they had a romantic storyline in TPM it wouldn't work but they don't. The age gap when they meet helps sell Anakin's insecurity and obsession towards her in the next two films. Also the older you go, the lesser the impact when he's taken from his mother. The main problem with Anakin being 9 is that most 9 year old actors can't actually act, particularly the one Lucas chose and particularly if they are required to deliver the line "are you an angel" sincerely
> while Padme remains the same age
Tbf Hershlag didn't really age much until she hit 30.
I understand it conceptually but he's such a whiny psycho, I can never buy it whenever I watch the film. Hayden doesn't possess the sheer charisma to convince me that Padme would declare her love for Anakin mere hours after he sperged out about killing children
>when we later see literally dozens of kids the same age as him being trained as Jedis.
They had been at the temple since infancy you dip
Which is a major problem of the way the Jedi are written in the prequels. They go around kidnapping children and telling them that attachment is bad and they should suppress any emotions rather than discuss them in a healthy way.
I’m sorry the Jedi didn’t have corporate HR like wtf is this Kathleen Kennedy shit your smoking.
Men should suppress their emotions.
Don't see the big deal, they're not romantic interests in TPM. He just has a crush on her and then grows up into a chad and fricks her. The main problem is that Hayden and Natalie had no chemistry and Lucas wrote Anakin with no redeeming qualities so you have no idea why Padme would marry him.
He's good-looking, powerful, devoted, and fricking worships her. Plus you get the whole forbidden fruit angle that really appeals to young people with more hormones than brains.
>”Lucas wrote Anakin with no redeeming qualities”
>handsome, fiercely talented, extremely high social status, magical bad boy in uniform
>hurrrr why would a young woman be attracted to this??
Ask me how I know you’re an incel
Wanting to frick him is different to wanting to spend the rest of your life with him. Plus her pussy would have a dried up the second he started moaning about Obi-Wan being mean to him.
>Wanting to frick him is different to wanting to spend the rest of your life with him.
No, it's the same. This happens all the time in life.
But you really are an incel.
You're literally spouting incel gospel lmao.
>Lucas wrote Anakin with no redeeming qualities so you have no idea why Padme would marry him.
This.
Padme ends up coming off as a total moron in the prequels. Anakin confesses to killing men women and children. Padme replies with, no biggie, it's normal to be mad. Let's get married and have kids.
Wtf b***h?
They get married, she pregnant, Anakin slaughters more children. Her reply? "There's still good in him."
b***h deserved to die.
Shes Israeli, why would she care that Anakin killed sand people?
EXACTLY!
Look up chadfishing. Only looks matter. Anakin could've raped and murdered children right in front of her, and she would've excused it. Even in Episode 3, right after he's murdered all his friends and fellow jedi, including the kids, she still wants to run away with him.
George Lucas unironically fully understands women, and wrote Padme perfectly. She even mentions in Episode 2 working with refugees when she was younger. She's a dumb b***h and George knew what he was doing.
This is what incels actually believe.
not him but the experiments with male model profiles featuring sex crime pasts experiments are archived and proven
Concept art of Anakin looks like ANH Luke but 14ish.
>the child star the made Onlyfans what it is today was molested
no shit fr?
She was molested by her adopted brother you moron, not someone at Disney.
>Disney actually protects its actors
lol good one
Dan Schneider.
Worked for Nick.
Bullshit.
They tossed Boyega under the bus to appease the chinese.
Lucas found out Terrance Stamp only signed on to play Valorum was because his scenes were opposite Natalie. So George shot their bits separately and those two never met. Then Lucas gave Stamp a TPM coloring book as a "bonus". I think it went over Stamp's head that Lucas was fricking with him for being a filthy dickysseur.
it's actually hilarious that rlmgays got away with bullying him
yeah it happened back in their early days but still.
and then jay goes on a long rant how daisy ridley is not a mary sue. like somebody just insulted his entire family. what a joke.
What the frick are you taking about. Anyone putting RLM in the same sentence as Star Wars is always clueless. The only thing Mike understands is Trek. The prequel videos have nothing to do with Star Wars and are less funny than Cinema Sins. RLM has had zero effect on SW
What’s this from?
RLM were a lot more fun before they got old/fat/rich
They used to go places and put in some effort
>Daisy Ridley is Charismatic as hell
I remembered seeing pics of this guy plastered all over Cinemaphile back in the day and having no idea who he was
Oh sweet ignorant bliss
#believewomen
Jay is a homosexual yes but that doesn't mean Mike and Rich aren't both vehemently based.
Remember he said Daisy Ridley was charismatic as frick. WTF JAY
God these people are homosexuals.
Everyone calls him gay but really he's just the eternal white knight simp with pent up hatred toward women for rejecting him, hence his love for movies where women are horribly tortured.
of all the fricking good child actors there were why the frick did they cast this fricking moron who cant act for shit. they could have got this guy.
The goose would've been too much power for one film.
Only if he gets a fight scene. Imagine him with a lightsaber mickey mouse dancing of those gays.
honestly Lucas should have gone with his initial plan of filming some of the prequels before RotJ.
Imagine an Episode I in the middle 1980s on Coruscant with younger MacDiarmid as Unca Palps and a teenaged Anakin who wasn't this little shit Lloyd.
The special-effects aren't there to do Jar Jar, so we just concentrate on Anakin getting off Tatooine.
shut the frick up
>1980s on Coruscant
holy frick imagine the kino
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I podrace
I think Jake G woulda been a good choice. Woulda been jar head jacked by RotS
it would ruin his career
we wouldnt have drive
Maybe they didn't think he'd grow into his large head.
>of all the fricking good child actors there were why the frick did they cast this fricking moron who cant act for shit.
Because Lucas had total control and wanted Lloyd's exact attributes for the part.
3mins 15 seconds, third boy should have been cast.
correct. that kid is actually good.
i have no idea who kid #2 fricked to make it that far into the audition process.
He ended up being the most successful of the Anakin kids though. He's in the Christopher Nolan Oppenheimer movie next year.
busted KStews cherry the lucky dog.
I think George was banking on the idea that Leo DiCaprio would be Anakin, and he only chose Lloyd due to the resemblance
More on Devon Michaels
Why this dude isn't in sitcoms or Succession or some shit?
God damn that dude is annoying to listen to.
I like his audition but watching that 16 minute video that had like 20 dramatic pauses and "pained" chuckles and side glances felt like a fricking lot.
That video convinced me frick that guy Jake was the way to go.
Lucas is so incredibly autistic lmao.
>auditioning in front of prime Hershlag
Props to all 3 of them for even managing to function
It's core memory for these dudes, for sure.
Haha yeah just imagine
I hate this woke design. Obviously they were going for a slave leia thing but didn't have the balls to show more than her midriff.
Star Wars fans can't come to terms with that fact it's a kids movie and only rated PG
This. The prequels were terrible.
PG c1980 and PG c2000 are wholly different ratings.
What was Lucas' major malfunction? He was clearly the obvious choice by virtue of the fact that he was the only one who could act.
This
nah, that kid fricked up when he said "I won't always be" it sounded like premediated murder. Jake gave off these troubled unruly vibes that George latched onto.
it's one line though. he can get direction. the other lines were great. he looked like he's seen some shit.
>it's one line though. he can get direction.
While Devon was by far the best at acting, it's optimistic to think he'd get direction from George Luca.
It's a good reading and even if you don't like it, it's an actual line reading (as opposed to the others who are just reciting it) which shows that he can some thought into his performance which implies he can take direction and fundamentally he can act. Insane decision, Lloyd's mom must have sucked George's dick.
this
Yeah anakin skywalker wouldn't murder anyone
Not at that point in his life, and I wouldn’t exactly call him killing the emperor “murder”
Three points.
1. His acting was actually terrible Hershlag made him nervous and he could barely finish his line properly.
2. He grew up into a Wil Wheaton-tier basedboy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0hqnMUi3NA
3. Don't ever question George Lucas ever again. He picked the right kid.
1. You're wrong. He's the best of the three.
2. Have you seen what Jake Lloyd grew up to be.
3. I will and he didn't.
>1. You're wrong. He's the best of the three.
He wasn't. He barely emoted and rushed through all of his lines. Jake Lloyd captured the exuberance of a bright-eyed Luke Skywalker prototype far better than any of those other gays. He also surprisingly had a dark edge to his character. His exuberance was so aggressive that you just knew he'd frick you up if you got in his way (in the movie and in real life). I like to think Jake Lloyd played himself in the prequels.
weak
>Hershlag
lol
Kek what a homo
He definitely can act the best of the three.
When he says the "But I won't always be" line it's with a bit of a smoulder and it even surprised Natalie (you can only see her reaction for a second), which is better than Lloyd's reading and MUCH better than the other kid, who just recites it without emotion. But I also see why Lucas chose Lloyd, because Michaels was a bit too aloof in how he acted. He acted better than the other two and could actually emote and read lines way better, but Lucas wanted the childlike innocence that a young boy would have, with no indication that he would eventually become Vader. Lucas wanted Vader to be made, not born, and Michaels' more nuanced reading actually hurt him in this instance, I think. Good for him though, seems like he's at peace and had a successful life, even though he does look like a soiboy.
The kid went into the audition with the mindset that he's going to be playing the kid who eventually turns into Darth Vader.
He understood the materiel enough to realize the deeper context. Or at least his parents were able to direct him to get that performance.
If Lucas were a better director, he'd realize actors can actually give different performances based on directing. The kid had done a bunch of commercials. I'm sure he could given Lucas the innocent portrayal he wanted.
I agree. Still, after seeing the others, only Michaels seemed on par or better than Lloyd.
>ywn be 9-10 years old and be eating lunch and working with PRIME 16-17 year-old Natalie Hershlag
>she will never give you your first boner in person
Literally Onee-san vibes.
>The kid went into the audition with the mindset that he's going to be playing the kid who eventually turns into Darth Vader.
Correct, which is why he's the wrong choice for young Anakin.
The whole point of the young Anakin character is that he's a sweet, innocent little kid. This is supposed to be in stark contrast to what he becomes. Jake Lloyd nailed this. For frick's sake, the script has Anakin saying "yipee."
was right.
nah. even as a child he should have had some intensity behind him, with his joy being stripped away year by year.being forced into situations where he had to direct thay intensity into destruction.
the third one showed intelligence, and introspection, not malevolence. that is what is required for someone to go from being "the chosen one" to the most powerful sith.
"he has to be completely innocent" is two dimensional thinking.
Jedi would’ve never even bothered with him if he was a snot nosed brat.
you're clearly a fricking low grade imbecile and can't speak or think with any depth, so don't reply to me again.
>showed intelligence
Yeah that he knew who Darth Vader was and was thinking about him when he said the line. This is called bad acting, don’t be fooled
Yep. The kid said "I'm playing young Vader? Better act like I'm a bad guy, better be 'dark' and 'intense.'" Thing is, he wasn't auditioning for young Vader. He was auditioning for young Anakin. You're absolutely right, it's bad acting.
there was nothing dark about it, that's you projecting your knowledge that he's darth vader onto it.
he was simply saying "I will become greater things" and slightly resenting the accusation that he was just a child, which is normal - it's called acting. he says right before that he will be a pilot, that suggests he needs determination, thus determination, resilience is emoted.
the other two might as well have been reading the lines in Japanese, because they communicated absolutely nothing.
>I will become greater things
Is this an actual line? That's horrible.
That's what the actor projected onto the role and why he wasn't cast for the role. Lucas wanted an innocent, bright-eyed, happy-go-lucky little boy. Someone pure. Jake Lloyd was that. Now in a case of life imitating art, he's fallen to the Dark Side of the Force.
no he didn't, that's what you projected onto his interpretation of it.
in his mind he was acting like a bright boy should, and resenting a girl he probably fancied saying "you're just a little boy!", instead of responding with a flat voice like a drone as the other two did.
funny though that hayden had the same flat, dull, unconvincing delivery that the first anakin had.
His line reading had a seriousness to it that wasn't fitting for a happy-go-lucky little boy. That's bad acting.
they are 7-8, and supposed to be 'intelligent', not drooling grinning downeys.
HAW HAW I won't always be HAW
>7 YEAR OLDS AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPY DAMN IT REEEEEEE
lol your childhood sucked
>still can't fathom the difference between "intelligent/bright" and "deeply evil and troubled malevolent horror"
I'd tell you to have a nice day but you might have trouble tying the knot you fricking moron
You're mad because Anakin was a happy little child because your own childhood was terrible. What happened, anon?
>Anakin was a happy little child
As a slave lmao
Yes, a part of his character in The Phantom Menace is undying optimism in the face of intense hardship, and seeing that stripped of him in subsequent sequels was compelling storytelling for those in the audience who weren't brain dead. In other words, not you.
A part of his character in phantom menace is being shit
You got filtered by The Phantom Menace. The Phantom Menace is too smart for you. That's just shameful, anon.
>you were filtered by this dogshit, it tastes great once you pick the fly larvae out of it
>The Phantom Menace is undying optimism in the face of intense hardship, and seeing that stripped of him in subsequent sequels
Anakin in the second movie wasn't pure or optimistic. He came of as an angry undisciplined creep. And in the third movie he was a straight up psycho. Also, his moral decay never made sense. He started to cry after murdering Windu (who himself tried to kill a beaten ld man lying on the floor) and one hour later he massacred about 50 kids without a tear. That is shitty and unreaklistic character develpopment. Maybe Lucas had a good idea about a young pure boy being corrupted, but he should have showed us this
>Anakin in the second movie wasn't pure or optimistic.
>and seeing that stripped of him in subsequent sequels
>stripped of him in subsequent sequels
>subsequent sequels
Take a moment and read things slowly and carefully before replying, please.
>Take a moment and read things slowly and carefully before replying, please.
>Maybe Lucas had a good idea about a young pure boy being corrupted, but he should have showed us this.
Very good advice, take it yourself. And no, Anakin being pure in Episode 1, then finding his mother died and massacring innocent children and women int heir huts is shitty and 180 character development.
He does show us Anakin's downfall, though. It's called the prequels.
He became corrupted because he wasn’t raised as a Jedi from birth so when puberty hit he had no control. That’s what’s so tragic, he’s a kid trapped in a tomb of his own making. It’s not until his son comes to save him that he realizes how immature he was to leave his kin to the wolves.
Anakin change in personality begins Phantom Menace, specifically when he leaves Tatooine to become a Jedi.
When we first meet Anakin, he's a happy little boy in spite of his conditions. Even when he explains that there's a chip in his head that will cause his head to explode if he tries to run away from slavery, his tone and attitude are happy-go-lucky. He doesn't let it get him down because they haven't stripped the one thing that matters most to him in the world: his mother.
But then he goes off to become a Jedi and he's hit with the fact that his mom can't go with him, and for the first time, he's actually sad. He almost doesn't even want to go, but his mom convinces him to leave. Then he's on his way to Coruscant and he's cold, he's shivering on the space flight, almost looks like he's going to die. Then he arrives at the Jedi Temple and goes through a weird test with a bunch of adults who are emotionally distant, and you can see in his expression and tone that he's not the same Anakin who was smiling and laughing on Tatooine. Then they take him to a literal fricking warzone. Then they take him to a fricking funeral to the one man who was even remotely a father figure to him in his life.
Then he undergoes weird monk training where he's taught to be emotionally empty, and it clearly isn't working for him. Then he returns to his mom only to watch her die after she had been tortured (and raped, let's be real) for days to weeks. And that's where he finally snaps for the first time and kills all the sandpeople (even the sandladies and sandbabies).
And that's Star Wars the prequels.
Great post
Thanks. I skipped over a few things like Padme re-entering his life and how that throws his training into further conflict because he's not supposed to have attachments, and yet he has emotional attachments to her (in part because she acted like a surrogate mother to him in the scene where he leaves his mom and is flying in space, cold and alone until she comes along and puts a blanket on him and comforts him -- yes, there's even some mommy issues in his relationship with her especially considering she's older).
>And that's where he finally snaps for the first time and kills all the sandpeople (even the sandladies and sandbabies).
Yeah, that is the part I have problems with. Let's say a mob assassin's mom gets killed by the other family. He executes all men of the organisation but he also kills all their women and children like a maniac. How many times did something like this happen in the history of the mob? Even in war such a genocide is not common.
And Anakin was no cold-blooded mob killer, at least according to Lucas because Anakin was pure and suffered since he was a kid because he was a slave. Yet he murdered kids who he should have empathy for.
>And that's Star Wars the prequels.
Yeah, unfortunately it is. A bunch of amazing ideas and concepts executed in the worst possible way with no logic whatsoever. You have to write your own canon in your head to make them at least somewhat elievable.
Anakin isn't a mob assassin. He's a monk with super powers being told to hold back and feel nothing, and when he witnessed his (raped) mother die in his arms, all those repressed, unprocessed emotions explode out all at once and he goes on a murder spree. Murder sprees happen.
>all those repressed, unprocessed emotions explode out all at once and he goes on a murder spree. Murder sprees happen.
If he killed one or two kids in blind anger I would maaaaaaaaybe buy it. But he genocided the whole village systematically. Also, why didn't Yoda, Windu or one of the other Jedi master's sense he was a psycho? Jesus christ, the prequels really are dogshit.
>guy shoots up a school
>"yeah, i don't buy it, maybe if he only shot two kids"
I don't really care what you'd "buy." Also, stop typing like a homosexual.
>Also, why didn't Yoda, Windu or one of the other Jedi master's sense he was a psycho?
You missed the whole "diminished use of the Force" thing which is also why they can't sense Palpatine is Sidious.
You're not a very observant person.
>You have to write your own canon in your head to make them at least somewhat elievable.
I described the events of the movies as they happened in the movies.
lol its perfect! hes happy go lucky when his mother is gang raped by hutts, lol and he's happy go lucky when he has his arm cut off lol and he's happy go lucky when he has his robots stolen lol and he's happy go lucky when his friends betray him lol that's the whole point, and THEN in the last five minutes of the third film after decades of exposition that show no change whatsoever, he says NOOOOOOOOOOOOO and he's vader thats the whole point
p. s. I thought endgame was the best film ever mad ever it was amazing ever wowwowowow happy go lucky hhahahahahaaja
>hes happy go lucky when his mother is gang raped by hutts
She isn't "raped by hutts" and he isn't "happy go lucky" at that point in the narrative.
Are you intentionally making really bad arguments?
hahahahhaa
I guess I'm just happy go lucky hahaha
Sorry not all people are spiteful blacks. Wokeness is a sin.
>that wasn't fitting for a happy-go-lucky little boy.
Little kids who are enslaved, their own mother is enslaved, they have no father and are a prodigy like Anakin was yet they can't do anything meaningful with their lives otherwise a collar bomb will be detonated by their master are supposed to be happy-go-lucky? Lucas is a shitty writer who doesn't understand how people work.
Just face it, the prequels not only had shitty dialogue, but shitty concepts as well.
So you’re saying the actor came off as a young teen who was sexually interested in the girl rather than a young boy trying to prove he can grow to an adult
He doesn't understand what he's saying or talking about. He was told once that this boy was the better actor, and just blindly accepted it as fact. Now that that "fact" is being challenged, he's trying to argue but can't because he never gave it any thought, hence why he's all over the place.
>desperately trying to find a support group because you can't make it on your own
funny that you're defending the actor they did choose, who failed in his delivery and had his life ruined because of it. bet you didn't think that through, did you.
you've not provided anything of substance against my reasonings and just keep repeating "lol dark" when no one but you mentioned anything of the sort. you can't understand subtlety and would ha e made the same evidentially poor choice as lucas in picking the r2d2 standing instead of the actor.
Your posting in a thread about Jake Lloyd being a brat from the get go moron
>your
clinical moronation confirmed.
i feel sorry for your handler
Sorry zoomer it’s actually ur
>it's
too four too
Autocorrect is a frick
nothing sexual about it, nor teeny.
every boy finds women/girls pretty, it isn't just sexual. do you not remember your childhood or are you one of those npcs that "can't remember" anything from before they were 15.
it's like explaining something to a lobotomy patient
>resenting a girl he probably fancied saying "you're just a little boy!"
Crushing on a girl as a kid is different from flirty resentment, which is a more adult thing. Young Anakin wasn’t supposed to be a tsundere
>children under 18 don't understand teasing
I forgot where I was, this is a clear sign of clinical autism, jokes aside.
good luck
No they don’t, that’s why everything is “toxic” now
>Someone pure. Jake Lloyd was that.
I don't know about pure but he was annoying as frick and I didn't buy any of his scenes. It is hard to get a child so young to act well, but Lucas chose the bottom of the barrel.
>I don't know
The only thing you've said correct so far.
Are you honestly defending Jake Lloyd's acting by saying it is good? I am not one of those no-life neckbeards who bullied him, but I have seen a lot of better child actors than him. The whole Stranger things cast mogs him hard. And they aren't half as annoying as him.
Not that Jake's acting really matters, because Phantom Menace was a shitpile of a movie as a whole. If it wasn't for the Star Wars brand it wouldn't be remembered one month after release.
>Are you honestly defending Jake Lloyd's acting by saying it is good?
No, I'm not. Your reading comprehension skills are poor.
In some scenes he was great. Him saying yippee and
was good, but the dialog was cringe, which George took a lot of flak for as well.
Yeah, Jake was far from being the worst thing about the movie. No matter how a talented child actor would play the role of Anakin the movie would still be bad because everything about it sucked.
Ultimately it was Lucas' fault the prequels sucked. He had a final say on the dialogues, directing, casting and the movie script. And he fricked it all up.
yes they are defending it.
they've likely spent decades coming up with coping strategies over how shit the film was, including defending the atrocious acting
>nah. even as a child he should have had some intensity behind him
You don't understand the prequels or basic storytelling. Lucas was right, the whole point is to show him purely innocent at first so that his later corruption is that much more of a tragedy. There's no real downfall if he was always a psychopath. That's why Lucas cast Lloyd, and that's why he removed the moronic scene of young Anakin beating the shit out of young Greedo. Because it's stupid and pointless.
>You don't understand the prequels or basic storytelling
>or basic storytelling
Not him but neither do the prequels kek
lol
I'm glad the only thing you'll ever write are stupid, insignificant posts on Cinemaphile because you don't understand storytelling at even the most elementary of levels. Making young Anakin "dark" and "edgy" goes against the idea of Anakin falling from grace, falling to the Dark Side. The whole point was they took this completely pure little boy and they corrupted him, but if he's already corrupted and hardened, what's the fricking point? Just hand him the helmet and a red lightsaber right there because he's already apparently Vader at age 8.
I'm not going to bother replying further because I've made my point. If you don't get it by this point, you're a moron who will never get it.
>making him dark and edgy
bot-brained, keep repeating that with no comprehension.
he showed no darkness, he showed intelligence. unfortunately, your own limitations stop you from seeing that, and instead you interpret it as "daaaaah gee ders somethin wrong here pappy awww sheeeit". which is why intelligence is always linked with villains automatically in america
>doesn't know what intensity is
>thinks innocence means being a wooden doll
a moron can't be corrupted, because a moron just sails through life not caring, not having any strong reactions to anything, more or less pre-programmed.
anakin is supposed to be super bright, capable of building machines at age 6 or something, and highly emotive which is what gives him potential as a force user. that same intelligence and emotional capabilities are fine at first, but with negative incidences lead to corruption via his decisions.
nothing is present in jake loyd, he's an empty headed, non-emotive, non-reactive spud. that is why his portrayal received criticism.
he doesn't need to be born evil, but he does need to display intelligence and emotions, none of which were found.
you don't understand basic human psychology or what acting is for. I'm sure a painting with just the three primary colours is what you really need.
>ITS WORKING… IT’S WORKING!!
Too much soul for 1999
They didn't have to show him being a literal psycho, a bit of mischievous kid like Kevin McCallister would be memorable, 10 year olds can be very malicious without being pure evil
They weren't casting for Home Alone or Dennis the Menace. They were casting for The Phantom Menace, and Lucas had a vision that the kid didn't match up with. Tough luck.
They were casting for a shit movie
>still crying about the prequels decades later
You're a loser.
Oh I'm not crying. They just sucked. And you're the one who lives with their parents.
You are crying. Here, have a tissue. Wipe away those tears.
I mean that's the point, he could as well done that at least there would be some more debatable scenes
He could have hired Samuel L. Jackson to play baby Anakin. It's his movie. He went with Jake Lloyd because he wanted to portray Anakin as sweet, young, bright-eyed, and innocent in order to make his downfall hit that much harder. This is something Lucas was actually right about.
Except his downfall didn't hit at all. He just murdered "younglings". It was embarrassing.
>He just murdered "younglings".
Yeah, he just murdered children. No biggie.
He swung a glow stick at kids dude. It was so fricking stupid.
>He swung a glow stick at kids dude.
Haha dude those kids were mutilated and decapitated haha no biggie it's just dumb and silly teehee.
this.
no character progression at all. useless waste of three films, all for nothing
>This is something Lucas was actually right about.
He was right in his pov, but audiences want more
>audiences
You can only speak for yourself, anon. You wanted something different than what Lucas wanted. Okay. So what? Who are you?
>Who are you?
One who actually enjoy the prequels, not because they good but because they kinda cheessy ans cozy, maybe that's what Goerge intended
>cheessy ans cozy
Here come the prequel apologists
>But I also see why Lucas chose Lloyd, because Michaels was a bit too aloof in how he acted. He acted better than the other two and could actually emote and read lines way better, but Lucas wanted
Lucas having better options staring him in the face but rejecting them over his stubborn mental obsessions really sums up the prequels.
You're nuts. Jake Lloyd had the best read by far. He did a great job with what they asked him to do. If they didn't make him say such flat and hackneyed lines, he'd have a better legacy among fans. Same for Hayden Christensen. Jakes Lloyd was always screwed though for being a child actor. The movies being more well-received wouldn't have changed anything in his life.
a lot of people are missing the subtlety of the line, jake says it like an actual kid would, and without any other deep meaning behind it, leaving it up to the viewer to speculate a second meaning from it.
that 3rd kid says it like he knows he's going to be vader/some evil villain, which he can't have known, and which ruins any implication of innocence. without an assumed innocence at a young age, there would be no contrast into what he becomes, it would be less interesting, and it would fall flat and age even worse than what we got.
Lucas made the right choice and it's time you apologized.
dude, that’s so fricking deep holy shit.
take the thong out yo bussy, playa!
Basado.
this is the correct take
Based. The people moaning the Mouse didn't write Leia like a child (in the Obi-wan show) are the same people seething little Ani acted like a child in the Phantom Menace.
Based and correct take, frick these moron who think they know better
Exactly. I don’t have to apologize I never doubted him.
Hello George. Say it .
A lot of words for excusing shitty writing. Let me get this:
1) Anakin in episode 1 was pure with no hint of evil, so Jake Lloyd was cast
2) Anakin in episode 2 was a little frustrated and angry because the Jedi code didn't let him love (despite he voluntarily joined the Jedis and even insisted becoming a Jedi despite Windu and Yoda not even wanting to train him) So he fricked up himself by joining them. Also, he was frustrated because he was too talented.
3) His mom dies and then he takes revenge on the men (understandable). However he also kills the children and their moms ???
4) He tells Padme they were animals and doesn't show sadness or remorse, just anger.
So Anakin was a 100% good kid and then becomes a serial child killer after his mom is murdered ? This is good character development according to you? It is unironically the worst character development in history of Tv and cinema.
Tuskin Raiders weren’t humanized until Disney, and they certainly weren’t humanized by the people of tattooine a long time ago etc etc etc
>Tuskin Raiders weren’t humanized until Disney, and they certainly weren’t humanized by the people of tattooine a long time ago
This is just shitty fanfic. If the raiders weren't human and they were animals just like wild dogs why did Anakin cry to padme that he slaughtered them "like animals?" He himself admits they aren't animals. And if he doesn't admit it why is he frustrated by killing a bunch of wildlife?
The prequels are such a mess, that the more you think about them the worse they look.
You’re trying to rationalize rage. Idiot.
>You’re trying to rationalize rage.
And you are trying to rationalize how a "pure boy" became a genocidal maniac in five years because he didn't want to become a monk (Which he himself chose)
Also, why didn't he just walk away from the Jedi life? What would the Jedi do to him if he simply walked away and become a normal everyday guy? Would Yoda personally murder him if Anakin opened a hotdog stand on Tattooine? Would the Jedi council imprison him for life if he became a speedracer?
He was angry he wasn’t being pragmatic. He grew up around people constantly dehumanizing the tuskins. It wasn’t 5 years
haha
caught him out again.
hey discord time to pile in on this hilarious post
Kid#3 gave the best performance of the three boys. The most authentic. The only problem was that it was a bit dark and brooding for a child. Which is only a problem cause Lucas didn't want it that way. It would have been appropriate for Darth Vader, if you assume that his journey down that path started while he was a slave. But Lucas wanted that journey to start when Anakin gets separated from his mother, so a more joyful (but amateurish) performance was chosen. Anakin introduced as "a bad seed", vs Anakin introduced as an innocent kid.
why'd lucas even make him a slave if he didn't want it to matter to his psychology
could've simply had his mom die/be sick, get killed by maul, make him a vagrant from the start, etc
they spent so much time on this stupid bullshit they forgot to do the stuff to make a good movie
Just bad casting to be honest
At the point we see anakin he is supposed to have been
1. Brutally beaten as a slave constantly
2. Watched his friends get sold into slavery or die constantly
3. Watched his mom get brutally beaten down
4. Had his mother ostracized because he was a "miracle birth"
5. Been pushed around, near broken, with a death wish
6. The only thing keeping him alive at thus point is his force connection and abilities
He's got ptsd already, has constructed druids to escape and have any long term friends, is constantly Maladaptive day dreaming. If the Jedi hadn't found him he would become a merciless warlord and a psychopath
It's all in the books. Awaking is all fricked in the head.
Yoda picks it up as do most of the Jedi council. He's too far gone to save. "Anger" fear for his mother.
Quigon went through the same kind of shit and decides to try to rescue him. Palpatine picks it up right away.
Then the rest of the movies make way more sense. Why anakin snaps and kills all the sand people, why he's angry as frick with the Jedi who wanted to leave him in that he'll, why he clings to padme. Why sideous can turn him on a dime.
Tldr anakin never had a chance and came to realize it in revenge of the sith. BTW the jedi knew he was out there the second he was born, they just never really tried looking. Palpatine would have found him by the time he hit puberty.
Sheev knew where Anakin was the whole time because he's the one who impregnated Shmi
Comics arnt canon
Correct
Anakin is a Palpatine. Fact.
ROTS implies Palpatine created Anakin using the midiclorians
justin berfield is reese from malcolm in the middle
really spooked me
Reminder they picked Jake because of his resemblance to Leo Dicaprio, whom George was confident would sign on for 2 and 3. Leo bought all the toys at the Toys R Us mightnight madness release because he was a huge SW nerd. Then he saw the movie and didn't like it and turned down 2 and 3. But he loved Mando and tried to get stupid fat israelitenah Hill to watch it. Leo will be in a Star War someday if the right director asks him.
The other blonde kid looks a lot like a younger Leo too, George just wanted an innocent naive kid, while that would work for a small role it's just become silly for a main character
Jake was the best choice
That kid was by far the best at acting serious and being taken seriously, which is what the movie needed
But there's so little we can see of them in these few minutes. I wonder if jake was the best at acting like he's excited and having fun. For all we know that other kid nailed the line because he's a wet blanket
He was good at acting like an adult, not a kid.
Jake Lloyd deserved it. Ahmed Best didn't deserve it.
Ahmed Best is a homosexual who seems to think the entire world was mocking him when no one even knew who the frick he was.
The funny thing is he's a literal "who?" Like you could line up 5 guys in front of me and I'd have no idea who that shitskin would be.
Ahmed is a b***h. Made his money doing a stupid faux Jamaican accent then got all uppity and tried to become some kind of choreography consultant on episode 2. Crocodile tears while he collected checks.
Literally no one said shit about Best, he's not cgismoothbrain. What kind of reddit homosexual defends a grown black man who didn't have any issues then b***hes about his 8 y.o. coworker? You're not going to get up votes here
What did Ahmed Best say about Jake Lloyd?
Did anything in that statement infer he did.....?
He became Vader IRL.
No ese, I'm your padre
Darth Hector, Holmes
Looks like a homosexual playing hard
>I am what you made me
Rise my people. I have returned, never to leave your side again. GDI sought to destroy me, but they have only made me stronger. Today, we march forward into our future. A stronger people. A divined people, enhanced for the Tiberium world. The time has come, to claim this world as our own! The time has come, to destroy GDI! One vision. One purpose! Peace through power!
Hispanic Ben Shapiro
Kek he's white. Imagine admitting that some mexicans do look white
>some mexicans do look white
The logical conclusion to make from my statement is that white people sometimes don't look white.
>Corooskin?
George Lucas and Seth Spielberg are suspected to be pedos. The aesthetics of boys in their films like hook, and phantom menace are taken right out of pedo-fiction from the 80’s and 90’s. It’s confirmed that when Indiana Jones was being conceived that George Lucas wanted the female love interest in raiders to have originally met indie when she was just 13 and he was 25. So like, knowing George is a pedo I can see why they casted him. In the behind the scenes documentary there were several other more talented actors that tried out for the role but jake was the most innocent. He was the most susceptible, and for lack of a better term the “cutest”. Pretty much he casted for his pedo fantasy rather than an actual movie and the acting suffered for it. I feel bad for the kid honestly he was way in over his head.
Nah I believe the theory he got cast because he looks like Leo, who we know Lucas wanted for the sequel
>suspected
you mean like everything actor, internet or tv personality, celebrity, musician, etc in current year? you have schizophrenia.
Early on set symptoms of schizophrenia, very sad.
He was a pissy little b***h, that's why Lucas cast him
Imagine some homeless guy on bath salts attacking this homosexual
lmao.
Why didn't Lucas just give this kid a couple million dollars instead of watching him flame out
holy checked
Where can I watch this footage?
At George Lucas house
Not from a Jedi
The kid was good in jingle all the way, its a shame starwars fans are brutal. The bullying of course didn't help. Strange since he got be in a big budget movie and hangout with prime Natalie hershlag.
My god....
Checked
Fricking witnessed, post of the day
based........this post is.
OP here, was just out seeing Maverick. A truly blessed day. Sleigh them all.
frick, I thought I was good for getting triplets, and here you are with two.
unreal
The midichlorians czech out
He's literally a diagnosed schizophrenic, taking anything he says with a grain of salt.
Is it possible to learn this power?
Not from a redditor
I'm A PeRsoN aNd mY naME is ANNAKIN
i needed this today
Checked
Truly Anakin is the chosen one
check
>Maybe he was just a pissy little b***h the whole time
perfect actor for pussy little b***h darth vader
When Jake started having severe problems Lucas should have stepped in and got him the best help available. His meltdown reflects very poorly on Lucas - we got what we needed/not our problem anymore. The poor kid is still institutionalized for all anyone knows.
Poor guy has paranoid schizophrenia. The disease usually has a genetic background, lies in the family. He was a Hollywood star. Maybe has was bullied by some losers, but he took it too personally because of his own character. I am sure the majority of his peers found him cool. And he is a damn cute boy/guy, even now in his 30s, I am sure, many girls were lusting over him.
I also thought I was bullied in school, but that was my social anxiety, lots of girls actually wanted me and the guys were just breaking balls a bit and I took it too serious.
please keep star wars discussion limited to your containment thread
lol the actress looks done with this shit
my god...
That's not quads tho
checked
finally a good fricking post
Based
Not from a janny
Cringe. The prequels frickin sucked.
there weren't even any quads you quoted..
Frick no wonder the prequels were so bad
Some people will defend Lucas for anything
cringe
chekt
That...explains why the prequels were so bad.
>You are crying. Here, have a tissue. Wipe away those tears.
This guy gets it.
>The other two were wooden planks and the 3rd kid had this malign vibe to him.
I agree, he just didn't fit. He just had the vibe of someone who is believable that one day will snap and will slaughter innocent women children because of the darkness and anger inside him.
Oh, wait.
>darkness and anger inside him.
Just like a Jedi! See, I can do sarcasm too
I'm late but I have yet to see the word "ambition" used, that's what makes great and terrible men alike. Jake showed no ambition.
Jake showed ambition in the way a kid says they will grow up to be president.
Exactly, no ambition.
>kids can’t have ambition
Jake's Anakin literally talks about how he'll become the greatest Jedi ever, and also has ambition in the form of building and racing his own podracer. Did you even watch The Phantom Menace?
says the lines. not one ounce of acting any of it.
you dunce. are you jake loyd
He sounds like a happy kid full of ambition when he says the line, anon. It's also not just talk, he also shows he has ambition given he's building robots and building a podracer and racing despite being the only human to ever do so. You're completely wrong to call him ambitionless.
hahaha
he the actor doesn't show anything at all. he's just going through the motions exactly like in the audition.
that you can't tell the difference between a series of events and displayed emotions or intonation again clarifies that you have a developmental disorder.
You're extremely unobservant.
Your extremely dogmatic
can't talk about intelligence, drive, ambition or emotions, apparently he can only be "happy go lucky lol" and that's it.
all children are blank slates until they turn 18, have no emotions, no reactions to anything, no sense of beauty, no thoughts of the future in any form, and are more or less in a persistent vegetative state.
Sure but the point Lucas was going for is how grief could turn an innocent pure kid into a raging murderer without proper guidance.
>BUT MUH ANAKIN WAS EVIL FROM THE BEGINNING BECAUSE MUH FANFICTION
Frick off, Reddit.
Prequel homosexuals are getting out of line lately
What's the point in making Anakin some happy innocent kid if all of his character progression happens in between episodes 2 and 3? Right off the bat in episode 2 he's resentful, sullen, and arrogant.
>if all of his character progression happens in between episodes 2 and 3?
See
>Anakin change in personality begins Phantom Menace, specifically when he leaves Tatooine to become a Jedi.
*episodes 1 and 2
Not true though, on naboo he's back to normal going
>Woo hoo! This is fun r2, wheeee
That's because he's not fully gone through the transition. He's still going from "happy-go-lucky" Anakin to "angsty" Anakin.
You want character progression to be a light switch. That's bad writing.
>hahaha