I did not care for this episode. It insists upon itself.
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Jake the Brick
I did not care for this episode. It insists upon itself.
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"It insists upon itself" really does summarise AT s5+6
It was an Emmy-bait, and it succeeded. The episode's fine, though it's very overhyped.
>"It insists upon itself" really does summarise AT s5+6
Yes, but you can still do it in a souldful way like Simon & Marcy
Yeah, I would've enjoyed it considerably more if there wasn't the wrought out OOC relationship drama, and the unusually long season lengths. Such a slog to get through.
I think relationship dram is a tried and tested method of engaging the (primarily female) audience who bonded with the characters once you ran out of any ideas for the plot.
It's just bizarre though cause the whole FP plotline is literally only like 5 of the 52 episodes that comprise S5
>It was an Emmy-bait, and it succeeded
Was it really? I missed any profound moment or lesson and just thought the writers wanted to make a dumb episode about Jake being a brick
On a related note, it's funny that this beat SU's Lion 3 episode for the Emmy, since that one actually dies contain obvious bait
It's not that it's trying to be profound and more that it's trying to be artsy.
I didn't get that vibe either. Maybe it's *too* high-brow for me but I'd expect that artsy from Food Chain, and not 11 minutes of Jake talking and observing random animals
NTA but it really did capture a little bit of something. The VA did his job right and it came off as genuine rather than parody, which is both difficult and something kinda unique.
Yeah that was it was up it’s ass with the “deep story telling” praise it had gotten
S5-6 are very flawed but they're still fascinating to dissect and have some legitimately great episodes like All The Little People or Astral Plane.
Anon, if you are still here. Could you make this thread instead?
Ones your thread is done?
>Could you make this thread instead?
Why can't you do it?
I wish i could do it, but i can't.
my posting range has been blocked . Which is sucks, cuz it's been long months since my posting range being blocked.
Just use this thread then.
Uhh.
>BMO gets a virus from downloading games or something
>The go to the Mo factory to clear the virus
>It spreads to the other Mos and they chaos in the candy kingdom until PB makes an antivirus
>Mo factory
Loreshit, shouldn't be included.
Please learn English Mr.ESL.
Theres like 3-4 AT threads constantly
I just came back for the first time in a while. Maybe if I come up with more episode ideas myself I'll make it again. You're lucky I found this post I don't normally go into threads like this, but I had a feeling there might be something interesting in this one.
I dropped this show during S6, came back to it for Stakes, and Stakes sucked so fricking much (except for Everything Stays, that was a good song) I dropped the show again and never looked back
Can't believe I followed it from the beginning, what a letdown
You should've been like me and dropped the show when they revealed the wacky Ice King was actually a tragic case of magic dementia.
I love Ice King so much more when he's Ice King and not some lame groomer college professor. Pissed me off at how much the show focused on it in the last season and in Fionna & Cake. Fionna * Cake was a fricking miserable show besides the episode with the Candy Queen and any time Finn was onscreen.
Yeah, they really should have kept it being his backstory, his bond with Marceline they made out of it was a nice addition. But even here the point was that he's not gonna remember her, yet she still loves him. Bringing back Betty was an awful decision.
>Bringing back Betty was an awful decision.
No, making Betty not be Magic Woman was the awful decision. Magic Woman getting over her mental block and accepting Ice King as he was should've been the end game.
>some lame groomer college professor
Hey, grooming is based anon, and so is college-age pussy.
Who did he groom?
Betty? But she was the one he wrote him the note so even if it was grooming she initiated it.
>Betty
You mean the grown fricking woman?
She was only 21-ish, you fricking perv.
Cinemaphile is hilarious. I've loved the series and thought Stakes was a lot of fun. I think people on this board just can't enjoy anything.
I hate BMO, every time he shows up I wanna kick his shit in.
Stakes was boring as hell
I liked Stakes in general but it was full of the "Finn is useless haha" rot that became really annoying.
Then there's that weird bit where Marceline swears she was gonna kill the VK Cloud before Finn would.
Like I get it was Marceline's big moment but why even have Finn and Jake in the arc? They accomplished basicallly nothing, Jake killed a vampire by accident and that was it.
>why even have Finn and Jake in the arc?
To make them, especially Finn, look pathetic, unemphatic and incomeptent in comparission to their yass qween bubblec**t, who simply luuuves Marceline soooo much more than those two buttholes. That's hack writing 101.
man do i not like how the ladies looked in the later seasons with how wide their heads and faces are
All The Little People is one of my favorite episodes
Im pretty sure that I read somewhere that the show runners specifically wanted to use Finn and Jake as comedic side characters in the arc, which itself is fine, just wish they didn't have to make them seem useless to do it, especially Finn who's always been portrayed as extremely competent in monster fighting. Jake fricking up is fine tho, he's always been like that.
>comedic side characters
More like butts of jokes that bubblegum has to scold and patronize through the whole miniseries.
The worst part was the comedy of those seasons wasn't even actually good, so them annoyingly being depicted as morons was pointless.
>bro why don't you just enjoy this total dogshit lmao
It's called having taste
Not him but the writing(or to be more accurate some of the many aspects of the complicated and multifaceted thing we call writing) and comedy went on a mostly consistent nose dive after a point. I wanna say it was season 5 or 6 but I can't remember which exactly atm.
I hate you so much. Please try to be more original next time you decide to start a fricking thread. You aren't cute or fun or interesting but just annoying.
a lot of at episodes do that
I usually just skip any episodes that have a guest animation style.
They completely eject me from the comfortable atmosphere of the show and you can tell they serve as a masturbatory aid for the animation inner circle rather than an interesting story telling tool.
Same. The one I tried to sit through I hated. I've heard good things about the one involving a computer virus though
>It insists upon itself
Why are zoomers always saying this about any golden age cartoon?
Do they really? Haven't seen any golden age thread in a while, but pretentiousness is the last thing I'd expect anyone to accuse them off. Though I guess maybe the WWII propaganda ones?
probably one of the most pretentious episodes but at least it was not another Candy Kingdom episode
Egress was the superior Emmy bait episode.
i'd say the only particularly surreal episode i really quite like is The Mountain
I just watched it for the first time, it was a pretty incredible episode
Hall of Egress is a legitimately interesting and terrifying concept; emmybaits are about emotional shit.
I don't know about terrifying, I kept relating it to Groundhog Day as I watched it, and I think for a concept like this to be terrifying it has to be fresh to the viewer. It was certainly an episode I enjoyed though.
Based Hall of Egress enjoyers.
We all know about that bass.
it was comfy. i liked seeing everyone listening in on the radio. i think people think its trying to say something profound when its not. its a ten minute animated nature doc done by john dimaggio, thats all.
>its a ten minute animated nature doc done by john dimaggio, thats all.
To use "profound" here unironically would be too much of course, but I can't say enough that this is probably the less-parody-sounding nature doc parody that I've ever seen. It didn't 'move' me exactly but it did draw me in when I watched it for the first time a few weeks ago. That's definitely worth praise.
What was my boy Finn doing there?
>Character always wears some specific article of clothing
>Revealed to be comically gorgeous underneath
Is there a better trope
>Comically gorgeous
Finn isn't comically gorgeous, but his hair is.
I liked it. I found to comfy and I almost fell asleep watching it (in a good way. )
>Thought Fionna and Cake would've been Rule63 Kino by just following the OG formula but Finn with boobs
>Had to expend through multiverse bullshit for making it original
Can western animation nowadays makes me straight men for once?
I think you a word
One of the best episodes in the whole show. Along with Beyond the Grotto.
>Beyond the Grotto
I hated that episode
dude me too
i'd kill for an episode with the boys n the water nymphs doin adventure shit but instead we get this gay shit
The closest thing was the water nymphs hanging with the wizards, but them leaving them felt almost sad for the wizards rather than funny like the showrunners surely intended.
that episode bored me too cuz i find the wizards too annoyingly pathetic to care about
i feel like episodes revolving around newbie secondary characters just make them too dreary and boring like oo theyh have a life to live and a job
Nemesis was an episode that was so boring and pointless I genuinely forgot it existed
The Suitor is close to that but I remember it purely because it had zero impact on anything (Brocco was never mentioned again)
Is this kys bait? Because iirc that was the episode where tree trunks was an ant eater and made apricot pie right? That was absolutely kino and you now it and you just want me to tell you to kys so kys.
no why would i make "bait" for a reply like that it sounds completely backwards moronic
i just really couldnt stand the episode and who the frick cares about a goddamn sea lard
Sounds backward? what the frick do you mean and please PLEASE die!
Don't mind the ESL responding to you - I didn't like it because the animation was gay and them becoming not themselves didn't do anything positive for me.
The animation was the best animation ever and YOU know it! Die right exactly now.
Loved this episode. The kind of comfy that sleep WILL fix.
The romance subplot and deep lore plot episodes of AT (the ones most people gave a shit about) were actually the worst parts of the show. The comedic, self-contained episodes are the best.
Agreed. Thats why the first two seasons are the best.
ah dang they done moidled jake the dog
For me its the split second end of show gags
It fit with Jake's batshit transcendentalist philosophy so whatever, I'll allow it.
Do you like an episode of AT that everyone else sleeps on?
For me, it's Ocarina
>ocarina
Aside from liking maybe backgrounds of that garbage episode. What is wrong with you?
>KKW's home in the woods has a comfy design
>segment where Jake explains the world is neat
>the ending is touching, but not in an overly emotional way
>segment where Jake explains the world is neat
>We are going to teach kids(actually teens) a complex subject such as real life macroeconomics in a totally unbiased way, trust us, in just under 10 or so minutes!
That already in itself is a bad idea. But everything that happened during the episode is even worse than the premise.
I don't think Jake's explanation was meant to be taken seriously given his attitude (and how Finn, being just as naive, immediately buys into it)
KKW's buttholery being due to a sort of bizarre affection for his dad was explanation enough for me to excuse everything that happened before
i just thought this episode was really really boring
Now I have to rewatch Ocarina to see what you morons are talking about
What anons pretend happened in last episode:
>Marceline: "The best part about tier-fifteening real women is knowing that Finn doesn't know how to. And it's important to have sex with feminine women to remind Finn that he's not allowed to have anything good in life. He's allowed to have fire tomboys and nature autists. And that's pretty much it."
>"Oooooo, those are some cute panties Bonnie. Not that Finn would know! Ahahahaha!"
What really happened:
>Marcy: "You're my very BEST friend Pb!"
>Pb: "True."
I feel like the concept is far more interesting than the actual episode, would have been a good way to display how different Ooo is from the real world, making up a completely unique ecosystem is the kind of shit writers love. Feels like if it was produced in S2 it'd be kino.
I've more or less come to accept my headcanon as canon and to ignore everyone else's wrong opinions. Can't disprove Finn having a fantastic fivesome with Susan, Canyon, FP and HW, therefore it happened. Its literally all a fantasy so why let a writer determine yours?
>Gumbald doesn't let him kill Finn.
He wanted to replace Fern with Finn didn't he?
He might have. He might have also not wanted PB to act in a particular way that he thought she would if she found out Finn died like that.
>found out Finn died like that
What you mean? I was talking about seventeen, where Fern was about to cut Finn's head off while she watched but Gumbald said no.
Its funny but also tragic how consistently worse Fern is than Finn. In theory he should be way stronger, he's just Finn with the grass sword and shape shifting abilities. Then you add in Gumbald's genetic tampering, and in theory he should be juiced as frick. Instead he sucks ass, and is worse than normal Finn in pretty much every way. He's not as heroic, likable, reasonable, intelligent, happy, or even strong as Finn. He lost to a hesitant Finn using a weed whacker, while he was fully intending to kill him, and the fricking grass sword.
He's not Grass Finn, or Evil Finn, he's just Finn if he sucked. Thats why I love him.
also fern is a GIANT FRICKING PUSSY
For all the gripes about the writing, the MC status still gives Finn the advantage
>He lost to a hesitant Finn using a weed whacker
Well in his defense the weed whacker was a surprise, or at least I think that was the intent.
Yeah Finn killed him on accident. The arm thought he said fatality when he said finality. Though if it was the other way around I'm sure Finn wouldn't have just trusted that his body would be enough to stop the arm. I mean he would probably have sensed the potential danger and got into a different position, just in case.
This is innacurate. He doesn't suck, Finn is just really really good. The reason Fern isn't as good is because the curse of the grass sword is more of a part of him. Even if it's just 1% of him he would be worse, because that 1% isn't Finn. Also
>Less likable
Bullshit. He was a great character.
>less intelligent
Was he?
I don't mean less likable as a character, I mean in the world of Adventure Time. The literal only person who likes him is Finn, while Jake and a couple others tolerate him because Finn wanted them to. Even when he "died" nobody gave a shit besides Finn, they just accepted it and tried to make the person they actually cared about feel better.
Intelligence is also arguable, but he's definitely way more moronic emotionally, trying to solve every problem with violence even in the case of Sweet P having a temper tantrum.
i'll tell ya this personally i just don't like fern much in general
Yeah that's just so fricked up though that literally everyone stopped loving him because he one day woke up in a grass body, with the only one who still likes you is the guy who (from your pov) stole your life and family and friends. Actually in a way Finn literally stole his life by doing that time shit for prismo and turning him into a sword.
Yeah but "he" wasn't even himself really, he was also part of that Squid thing. Speaking of which, what was even with that? I thought that would be explained somewhere down the line but it never was.
He was himself but the "squid" had an influence on his personality. A pretty small one it seems but enough to really matter.
>what was that thing?
The grass sword. Didn't you watch?
Why would a grass sword made by a fat grass autist wizard have a squid soul
That wasn't a soul it was just the curse. Also don't ask questions like that. It's adventure time. If you start asking things like that you're gonna be here for all eternity.
>Why did Evergreen kidnap a baby dinosaur and mutate his brain?
>What the frick was that music in a bottle shit in evergreen?
>Why would the blank eyed girls be dandelions on the inside?
>Why would the gumball guardians freeze time itself and ask finn to do kindergarten math?
>Why did that giant cyclops thing have a giant dollar? Is there actually a giant currency? Are there giant money printers/factories?
>How do all the heroes have cell service?
>How did a random lightning bolt turn a microwave into a living sentient being?
>Where does the breakfast kingdom get all the giant breakfast food and do they have to replace it every other day when it goes bad?
Things just happen in AT. Just be happy.
ESL moment
What did I type wrong? There literally isn't a single thing unless you count when I didn't capitalise Finn.
To explain, I mean to say that yes the squid is from the sword, but WHY is it from the sword. I recall its first appearance involved some sort of spider web effect, but even then it's clearly visually not a spider. Did they want a spider, but feel it would be too strong of a sign of evil and also scare kids too much?
>the squid is from the sword
No I think he is the sword dude.
>why is it from the sword
Magic.
>Is it spider or squid
It's an evil curse bound to Finn forever. Don't you know what the word fantasy means? Yeah it had some spider like traits, so what? It's not a real life animal.
man this shit is part of why i don't like fern his origins are so easy to confuse
What's so hard about Fern's origins? Like what do you get confused about? I can't think of anything confusing that has to do with Fern.
im too sleepy to care to argue and elaborate so im just gonna go to bed
In other words you just said something random for no reason and now you're mad I noticed. I mean why wouldn't anyone have noticed?
no you make a fair point and im too lazy to argue and its bedtime
How was it even a fair point? Like I just said I couldn't think of anything confusing about Fern and asked you what (you) thought was confusing. Then I thought you made it all up but regardless it wasn't a point, it was a question. AAAAAGGH I'M GOING INSAAAAANE!!!!!!
dont think too hard about it man i just remember one time i was thinkin about how fern was born and i got confused so i just wanted to complain about that
Okay.
yeah
yup.
>less emotionally intelligent because violence
I disagree with this. That's the curse's doing. It made him a more violent person, not stupider about emotion.
Vault of Bones is the only good Flame Princess episode.
It's easy to see why, literally all of flame princess's episodes are just her being a really boring love interest while Vault of Bones is the only episode where she actually does anything as a character, also its got a classic season 1 vibe to it
Is this the new "shallow and pedantic"?
There is nothing wrong with Adventure time being more story focused. The problem is that towards the end, it became entirely story focused and the fun episodes took a back seat to the story despite the fact that most of the interesting developments in the story originally coming from those episodic adventures.
I get what you're saying but I'd argue it was kinda impossible for them to go back at some point.
That's not really true. Even during season 9 you had episodes like blenanas, rap farting and tree trunks' whorish adventures.
And those were the best episodes, but they were the vast minority.
"story focused" doesn't have to mean that all the other aspects suffer, but in large part that's what actually happened.
Isn't it weird how Adventure Time have come so far?
>come so far?
Did it? Really?
I mean it got like manny spin-offs and seasons. Isn't that accomplishment?
Why does Finn wear a hijab?
He's an extremely devout Muslim troony
Finn is a good hugger
Why is he a brick again?
Jake the brick? More like Jake the prick!