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the frick is Eywa?
Yaweh on blue cat planet
The artist formerly known as Enya.
Eywa-nna suck my nuts?
Pandora equivalent of AI
Not much, what's an eywa with you?
Yahweh backwards, phonetically
I don't see how Jehova backwards is Eywa phonetically.
>one of the biggest movie franchises in history
>first time I read the word "Eywa"
how does this shit have ZERO cultural impact?
something just doesn't add up here
Money laundering
The first one was huge because it pioneered the nu3D meme that infested cinemas for years to come.
it's quite amazing
most probably couldn't name any of the characters
I only know about Neytiri because of that forced meme on Cinemaphile
>I only know about Neytiri because of that forced meme on Cinemaphile
I like an audition tape for Jake and Neytiri
Zoe acting like Neytiri is cute and hot. Definitely her best role
There's some dude named Jack. I think.
its crazy, I know
Avatar 2 outperformed Titanic already and is closing up on Avatar 1
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/chart/ww_top_lifetime_gross/?area=XWW
It was explained like 20 times in avatar 1
Did you even watch it
No, why would I watch that shit?
So you’re b***hing about a movie you’ve never seen
Typical avatar 2 hater
It was a joke, anon. I have seen it and I wasn't even that anon. You've been had as it were.
Turd*
Big if true.
I doubt he put that much thought into it
No need, one of the novels he ripped off did.
Harry Harrison's Deathworld did the "psychic field" take on this type of scenario. There's a few others where the swipes are obvious.
>NOOOO YOU RIPPED OFF THIS SHITTY OBSCURE MOVIE OR BOOK FROM 50 YEARS AGO THAT 8 PEOPLE SAW / READ! WTF HACK!
I hate you people so much. There is nothing new about this genre (outsider falls in love with the people he is sent to destroy) and Cameron never claimed that it was groundbreaking (just the special VFX, which WERE groundbreaking.)
>I don't read and people that do piss me off
ftfy
>Memory of Earth Orson Scott Card
didn't watch the new one--I don't watch cartoons--but that's lifted almost verbatim from Orson Scott Card's Homecoming Saga specifically the dictates of the Oversoul.
They didn't put any thought into it--they lifted it from books none of you frickers read so you didn't recognize it immediatly.
>umm acshually the book was better!
reddit moment
Why don't the humans just do a planetary core detonation out of spite?
Because the avatar movies take place on a moon, not a planet.
Wont work
it's a moon with tectonic activity
So? Moons are not planets. They cant be planet busted.
This is an argument of semantics anon. Big rock ball IMPLODE
I assure you, they can
Then blow up the house planet the moon orbits. Goddamn, do I have to think of everything around here?
Why doesn't humanity invent a moon buster if they're so great?
If you can bust a planet, you can bust a moon
Second movie says humans want to colonize now.
>A parasitic outer alien force keeps the Na'vi in lame symbiosis with nature and prevents them from having rad shit like beer, Chevy Silverados, and cheap Chinese knick-knacks
Interesting idea
I think that's the idea behind the Ash na'vi in Avatar 3. They're going to be villains since they are na'vi embracing technology
that would actually be really cool.
I hope theres saber toothed navi
kind of weird that the humans haven't allied with these ash people since the first film then.
Like just hire the ash people to deal with the blue hippie cats. Pay them in "ancient tech" like a printing press or a steam turbine or even a windmill. Teach them basic crop rotation and within a generation the reds will kick the blues teeth in.
That would be a completely different movie.
Yeah, a good one.
That's probably what Quaritch is going to do
>the reds will kick the blues teeth in
Anon, Cameron has essentially made it very clear that technological superiority in any form is le bad. Avatar is literally just the noble savage trope being dragged to it's bitter end until it eventually just becomes the corpse of a redskin that Cameron has dangling in front of an audience like a puppet.
It just didn't make sense to me that a company would actually engage in combat with a primitive people without drones or ICBMs. Why even put a single employee in harm's way if negotiations fail?
because the humans are written as fricking morons in the avatar movies.
Literally for the sole purpose of Cameron wanting the blue alien to win. We know that the special magic metal is worth a frick tonne to the RDA. Chances are they wouldn't even bother engaging in outright warfare. They could just create a chemical agent to sterilise the aliens and prevent any reproduction and spray it into the atmosphere. Then after a generation or two just walk in and take shit. If that time frame is deemed too long for the shareholders then either poisons, nerve agents or any other selection of dirty shit that only fricks with the weird blue aliens and not humans. They know they'd win because what are the Navi gonna do, magic a factory out of their ass to start producing hazmat suits and CBRN masks?
No, the only reason they chose to use big bomb on magic tree is Cameron needed a plot device that would allow him to win in his own story. Even if someone wanted to use the excuse of the RDA being dumb dumb mercenaries with no real access to WMDs or chemical weapons, they could have just burned down the whole fricking jungle. Scorched earth policy and a little overtime and the whole place is an open plain perfect for excavation, it's not like their enemy has a bunch of fire engines to wheel out.
I can't tell if Cameron is trying to reiterate Tolkien's message on industrialization or if it's on a whole different level of pro-Amishism
I don't think he actually cares anon, he's a blockbuster guy, he puts these things in his movies but the truth is, he wrote it so the blue guys win because that is the kind of story he knows the people want to see. Some autists pointing out the corporation would be a lot more impersonal about it isn't in his wheelhouse. No one cares.
Stop regurgitating myths your college professor told you
The rda is technologically advanced not almighty. Also the first movie makes a big point out of how the navii are not just a little different but have very unusual biology and are specifically resistant to things like toxic gases.
>not almighty
Not really all that hard to create devastating chemical weapons considering literal third worlders in the present day can do it. If you're a company capable of interstellar travel for the purposes of mining with a private military utilising some pretty high tech shit just to move boxes or clone blue aliens, you can probably make chemicals to frick with said blue alien.
>specifically resistant
Even if we assume the Navi are resistant to every dirty little thing humanity can produce to kill them, highly unlikely, with the exception of bullets, explosions and fire then we still have bullets, explosions and fire. Which means we can go back to the previous idea of a scorched earth policy and just burn everything to the ground slowly and surely.
>but they can attack your crews doing the burning
Napalm from a distance using missiles and where that isn't possible, you have the AMP suits. They're literally carrying a miniaturised version of the GAU 8 from an A-10 which is supposed to be able to pierce a tanks armour. You can call the Navi resistant all you like, a 30mm autocannon will turn you into a fine blue mist.
>Not really all that hard to create devastating chemical weapons
Uhuh sure, but even if, the fricking quantity you'd need alone would make this whole operation not return any profits and thats not even touching on the subject of how you get that much chemical agent (assuming that's what we are going with) spread around the planet and not just dissipate in the atmosphere before it can kill anyone. Do you know how much volume that would require?
>Which means we can go back to the previous idea of a scorched earth policy and just burn everything to the ground slowly and surely
You mean like exactly what they are doing right now?
>The rest
Missiles and ap rounds don't get created for free. consider how much a javelin costs, you wouldn't use that on a treehouse for a very good reason and same goes for other heavy military equipment. the humans are just one expedition and the navii are the population of an entire planetoid. Check your fricking sense of scale
>profit
Unobtainium is worth $20 mil per kg unrefined and $40 mil per kg when refined. They have a very well developed base, an airfield, smaller FOBs, etc. They've definitely got money to spend. VX takes tens of milligrams to be fatal to a human and that stuff is old as shit. Even if we assume that profitability is that tight then I'm sure dumping a single barrel of nerve agent into the water sources used by the Navi isn't going to break the bank.
>like what they're doing right now
They tried to send a giant fricking quadcopter to drop conventional explosives on a tree. That's the main issue I'm discussing.
>Navi are the population of an entire planetoid
So? They aren't all going to turn up at the one RDA base. They're a group of loosely affiliated tribes with no logistical capabilities, they aren't all going to rally on one point on the planet or they'd all starve to death before they even made it. The RDA are essentially, at this point in time, only dealing with one group of the frickers.
>you wouldn't use a javelin on a treehouse
You would if there was a terrorist in the tree house and under the tree was a single kilo of unobtainium. That's a pretty solid RoI in my opinion.
if chemical weapons were useful in war, they would be used more, but they aren't. just blowing the primitives up would be much more effective
Anon, that is perhaps the most moronic thing I've heard in a while.
>if nukes were useful in war, they would be used more, but they just aren't.
Can you see why you're moronic?
You shift your position so effortlessly, just last post you tried to make the point that gassing them all is the easiest thing ever and now that's completely fallen by the wayside to sidestep the issue of admitting that there isn't actually any major logical mistake in the plot of avatar 1 or 2, but I won't argue this any further
Have a good night (or whatever time it is for you)
>shift your position
I didn't. You said it would be unprofitable so I offered a similar solution at a budget that would be equally effective on a local level which is what the RDA are currently operating on. Blue alien cucks BTFO once again.
And now he has to attack you because he can't attack your argument.
The magnets frick with their targeting systems so they have to aim guns manually. Did you even watch the movie?
Only in very particular locations and even then it's moronic. The EM field being so strong that it can frick with any targeting system be it beam riding, IR, INS, whatever implies that it's fricking with the actual electronics within the weapon. If it's that strong then every fricking helicopter and missile in there should be getting launched around by this giant magnetic field instead of flying nice and smooth.
>Red vs Blue
What about GREEN?
But do they serve meat at their restaurants?
mfw Eywa is a metaphor of the eco-fascist EU
>eywa is actually an AI
This has been spoiled for years
The idea that they can’t have any technology is stupid you can have villages and still live in harmony with nature
Big twist
>all shipping and flying stop
>everything else keeps developing
???
the point is, shipping and flying rely on fossil fuels which are rising in cost
so far no alternatives have worked, so they're assuming that's what's going to happen
i'm not sure about shipping but i know with regards to flying batteries are just too heavy right now and you can't fly using any renewable energy source
>you can't fly using any renewable energy source
Just put dozens of small windmills on top of the planes. How do I patent this idea?
Already a thing, ram air turbines
Not only are batteries not energy dense enough currently, but even if target predictions are made we are bound by the laws of physics to low speed flight due to prop aircraft having an upper limit. No current model for an electric jet engine is possible, and so even if this wonder plan succeeds, without jets you will not meet speed, range, and tonnage requirements for air based logistics
>No current model for an electric jet engine is possible, and so even if this wonder plan succeeds, without jets you will not meet speed, range, and tonnage requirements for air based logistics
The Age of the Blimp shall come again.
Honestly, it would be nice if things could slow down a bit. I think it was Byron that spent his youth touring Greece, starting with a months long journey just to get there. So long as the internet remains and we have reliable instant communication, who cares if international transport slows down a bit and encourages production locally/nationally instead of globalism and cheap imports?
if ships slowed down by 10x, then you would need 10x more ships to transport the same amount of goods
Only if globalism continues and you're still shipping shit from India to China to Europe/USA.
This is the sole niche area where electrolysis of water and hydrogen fuel might be applicable. But even then biofuels, coal-derived fuels, etc. are still around and would be vastly cheaper to use.
Tbh, I wouldn't mind that much if mass tourism got knocked down a notch and flying went back to being an upper-middle class thing. Pretty fricking sick of every touristy site getting overrun by instagram girls and airnb scalpers destroying and homogenizing every place because stacy throws a hissy fit if she cant have her starbucks and burger king goyslop like back at home.
What kind of terminal moron wrote this crap, precious agricultural commodities were transported in wooden ships before fossil fuel powering.
Compare travel time, manhours, cargo sizes, cost, maximum distance and general convenience
Implying it's just that easy, we only have to switch all of modern infrastructure with planes, cargoships, cars and trains for boats and carriages is the real moronation.
I mean if shipping and flying stop, everyone dies and the world devolves into cavemen hunting and gathering again. You don't get green energy or batteries if that happens. Do you know that?
>This is clearly a parody, nobody serious would actually make something like this
>It was made by a Cambridge University professor
For FRICK'S sake lads...
You know, I always thought that all the woke idiocy would stop somewhere, that there were serious people somewhere who would tell idiots "no" when they talked about alternate ways of engineering or surgery or mathematics or national security but I'm beginning to think it's idiots and self-preserving cowards all the way down.
There are too many idiots. You can have people that say no and we do have those people but eventually they are replaced by an idiot. The competency crisis is real. And in 10-20 years smart people will make an infinitesimal small part of the world. Idiocracy is accually going to happen. Smart people may automate everything before they are gone then the idiots will run it on autopilot till it is irreparable.
This whole thing is moronic, but one thing sticks out to me in particular
>washing machines become smaller
Why does it matter how big my washing machine is? If I have 50 pieces of clothing that need washed and my machine only fits 25, I'm not just going to leave half my clothes dirty, I'll just run two loads. If anything this makes it less efficient.
Washing clothes will become a privilege.
>hear ye, hear ye
>by the decree of space biden, all traditional clothing is outlawed
>all citizens of the global states will now be issued futureclothes™
>this form-fitting, all weather attire requires only a quick rinse to eliminate 99% of odors and stains, much more efficient than oldclothes
>some citizens may object that erect female nipples will be clearly visible through futureclothes™, but this is a small price to pay
>some citizens may object that erect female nipples will be clearly visible through futureclothes™, but this is a small price to pay
What the hell, I love SpaceBiden!
I would unironically love it if we all just wore jumpsuits
but if you only have one load then you won't waste energy for running a large machine
But again, that means a smaller washer is only more efficient if I'm consistently generating dirty laundry at a rate that does not exceed its capacity, which just means I'll be running it more often.
We're actually getting pretty close to some major upheavals in washing machine technology. The past few trade shows I've been to have had conspicuous upticks in waterless/low-water washing machine prototypes. The loads are smaller, but you're able to wash half of a current-day load with less than a cup of water and half the electricity. The first couple generations will probably be fricky, I wouldn't be shocked if we're less than a decade away from the things being polished to the point that they pay for themselves.
so shit then so people have to start using communal laundrettes agin you fricking zoomers are handing your lives over to communist corporatism based on lies. I'm in my 50s, in my nation the media constantly all winter tells people Oh the weather is bad its climate change and its exactly the fricking same as when I was a child. The only thing that needs cleaning up by you lazy fricks is all the brown thrash immigrants. Fossil fuel is not 'running out' and won't 'go away' and if it did it would be the end of humanity because we depend on it for its chemical constituents in a myriad of essential ways unrelated to energy. Funny how phone manufacturers can shit out pre obsoleted hardware with non changeable toxic batteries and thats fine. You wantt o know what electric and software heavy vechicles are about? Controlling rural areas and the literate urbans who can possibly afford them. Monthly fees and the ability to remotely disable and track them. Its internal passboarding and stops poor people form being able to travel or move easily
Fricking this. Environmentalism is such a crock of shit. I'm several decades younger than you and can pull up old news reels for your day about muh overpopulation. Al Gore said 20 years ago that NYC would be under water in 20 years. NYC is not under water.
NYC would be better off being under water.
Agreed, but the failed prediction from the face of the global warming boogeyman cannot be ignored.
>No shipping
Well guess all those Africans they profess to care about can just fricking die lol
>vehicle size reducing
>also they become electric
>shipping reduces
>freezer storage also reduces
Which suicidal european country is this from?
It’s from the UK
That railroad expansion in 25 years is pure delusion
The author must be a deranged boomer trying to appear hip.
we shouldn't 2050, JUST DO IT A.S.A.P. pleazzz
> 40% reduction in road use
> no flying
> no shipping
Enjoy your post-apocalyptic nightmare.
Maybe that's the point
No they need unreasonably huge populations to have they type of power they crave.
This chart had to be made by a genocidal maniac. This is Bond villain level insanity,
Might as well have a plan that says
>nuke world
>humanity starts over
>build my dream utopia
K, good luck with that one
thanks OP, you reminded me that I still haven't seen Avatap 2, so I'm gonna check it out before TLA becomes the One True Avatar again
idk how to read this, but electric vehicles are a fricking meme. Hydrogen fuel cells are the future.
>Please wait a while before making a post
I thought this was for phoneposters only?
Electric vehicles, while less world-changing than fanatics think, are also far more useful than the detractors claim.
Ok, I exaggerated in my previous post. I think electric vehicles are a good idea for city people. But they're fricking terrible for rural country or people who drive long distances regularly. Have you ever done a roadtrip on an electric vehicle? It just isn't viable.
they get like 350 miles per charge. That ain't bad. The only problem is that the infrastructure isn't there yet. Plus it would suck having to wait at a gas station for 30 minutes while your car charged.
My idea for electric cars/batteries makes waaaaaaay more sense than the current model, only it would require an assload of government regulation in order to standardize the process. It would also reduce the cost of the vehicles by a radical amount.
>Just trust me guys, we need to make everyone submit to the state and then we can make it work!
>doesn't even post idea
lmao
>drive 350 miles then wait 24 hours to drive the next leg
>drive 700 miles at once
These are not comparable.
It's plenty viable.
And anyone who owns their own home might have an easier time switching to electric than someone in an apartment in the city, who would have to ask the owner before installing a charger in the lot.
You'll find that most people don't regularly go through an entire tank in one shot. If you had a gas line in your home that kept your car topped up before leaving, ask yourself how many times you would ever need to visit a gas station.
Having an electric vehicle for a road trip is not viable. Try to drive across 3 or more states (greater than 1000 miles) in an electric vehicle then get back to me and tell me how it went.
Wouldn't be an issue if a network of charging stations was properly funded and built to match demand
>idk how to read this, but vehicles that run on batteries are a fricking meme. Constantly leaking pressurized bombs that require an entirely new set of infrastructure to be developed are the future.
>Heh you just don't understand hydrogen is pure clean energy bro the elites just don't want you to have it!
>Hindenburg? The challenger shuttle? Fukushima? What the frick are you on about?
couldn't make it past the 2nd cell because it's a contradiction. requiring all cars to be electric actually increases the average "size" (it's weight morons) of cars
At this point the only hope for humanity is an immortal AI technocracy taking over our governments.
I was watching I,Robot the other day and I thought the same thing while that woman AI was treated like the villain of the movie,and I was thinking that her plan wasnt unreasonable at all.
It beats having to deal with theologies that are inherently corrupted from the getgo by human fallibility and/or doomed to fall apart during the intergenerational inheritance of power.
Can't wait to be visited at midnight by the secret police because I didn't want to freeze to death and my neighbor reported the smell of woodsmoke to the Ministry of Carbon Control.
what's crazy is burning wood is carbon neutral
that is all carbon captured by the tree
This would only be true if they let the forests come back--but they don't.
Trees aren't a monoculture, cutting one down takes out tons of other species with it. There is less than 1/4 the tree cover as there was 200 years ago and the largest tree removal ever in recorded history happened between 150 to 200 years ago (it was almost all gone 100 years ago) and it has never returned.
Every time they log an evergreen forest (every 70 years even though the trees can live for thousands of years) You lose more carbon capture than just that single tree.
The coast of the US will be a desert in 150 years because every time they clear cut they remove more top soil... it took 10k years to make that soil it'll take less than 300 to obliterate it.
It's absolutely hilarious to me how disconnected the "experts" who made this are with reality. Imagine believing all shipping will just fricking end for a decade because we are transitioning to electric vehicles
It doesn't say that. Whoever made this literally states in clear, bold letters they assume that electric trains become the preferred mode of transportation
>It's absolutely hilarious to me how disconnected the "experts" who made this are with reality. Imagine believing all shipping will just fricking end for a decade because we are transitioning to electric vehicles
environmentalism is a liem its about taking away the middle earners transport liberty as well as farmers land and guns so nu feudalism can expand and control
The parallels between our recently abandoned theology and the newfound cult of science are really starting to reach a point beyond parody.
Yes anon the world revolves around (you). Everyone wants the worst for (you). (Your) downfall is the common goal of every societal change of the past 100 years. No one wants to improve society because they ever think about anyone else. Everything is to irritate (you) specifically and everyone, always, everywhere has a grand plan on how to make society subservient and all of this is so clear to you because (you) are never mistaken with anything.
(because i fear you might actually believe me, here's the truth spelled out: you can't cope with the fact that we live in a multipolar and diverse world, new things scare you and it's very convenient to always have a nebulous, shadowy enemy at hand to explain everything away instead of challenging your deeply engrained beliefs and accepting that maybe you did some things wrong and were taught some things wrong and don't know everything all the time. But luckily I'm just a israelite or commie or some other grouplabel that signals to you that what I say can be ignored and let the walls inside your mind remain.)
I agree, the anti-semitism on this website is out of control
it's cool dude we'll just build electrified railroad, engines and rolling stock to replace all of the global maritime commerce... in 25 years... across the the atlantic and pacific oceans
We can't just switch to electric vehicles either. We would have to completely update the power grid. That means higher capacity power lines, bigger substations, more power plants, etc. There aren't enough men who can mine the materials for the infrastructure in the time frame the ecotards want.
>completely update the power grid
Oh no, progress...yucky
What power plants will be built to meet the new demand because they definitely won't be solar or wind (which aren't exactly good for the environment anyway), so they'll be coal, natural gas, or some other fuel because nuclear power plants are scary. Stuff will still be burned to make cars go, but because it's done far away morons will think they're not polluting.
kys
If you charge your electric car by connecting it to a power grid that's fed by coal power plants, then your car is coal powered. What's so hard to understand about that?
>People that drive EVs
>Caring about the environment or how technology works
lol
You don't know any EV owners do you? Fun fact: they don't drive them because of the environment.
>which aren't exactly good for the environment anyway
Wind energy not being environmentally friendly is such a dumb take you have to be paid to say that. And even solar panels have made remarkable advancements, we could easily be on our way to a completely environmentally friendly production and recycling process if dumb backwards politicians wouldn't keep giving money to oil billionaires to fund big fracking operations and advance renewable energy instead
Any way you look at it, what we are currently doing is killing the environment and us, it's high time for a fricking change and obstructing that because the same people who profit the most from how things are run currently are blocking progress is outright suicidal
>And even solar panels have made remarkable advancements, we could easily be on our way to a completely environmentally friendly production and recycling process
Not even California can create enough taxes to make recycling solar panels more attractive than dumping them. How long until the landfills start leaching cadmium into the water?
Imagine if we poured the same amount of money into nuclear reactors and fusion research than we did into this stupid solar and wind meme.
I wish we had, but three mile island scared the normalgays and now we have idiots thinking magic boxes will save us from the wrath of the weather gods.
So essentially we're all going to be put into work camps on the vast midwest plantations of these billionaires that they've recently been buying up? Because that's the only way I can see this realistically happening?
>Beyond 2050
>Energy available for cooking increases
Actually grim.
>all shipping declines to zero
My fricking face. How on earth could anyone take these mad pipe dreams seriously? Maybe, just maybe if he shilled for nuclear-powered superfreighters, wind-assisted propulsion(yes, we are reinventing sailing again) or just deglobalization and local production then I MAYBE could have taken it as an idea to entertain but as it is its laughable.
Also, I'm sure China, India, Africa and the rest of the world will be totally party to this, they will not want to build massive cities and tenement blocks for their hundreds of millions of citizens wishing to escape poverty and not build fossil fuel power plants to fuel their booming local industries. I'm absolutely sure they will just tell their burgeoning middle class to stop wanting to own a car, a phone, a house, to stop wanting to go on vacations, to stop wanting to eat beef, butter, wine, imported sweets and so on instead of survival rice slop, just to appease some nose ring blue hair ecofeminist in London who has a chichuahua instead of a child. All those billions of people will be just content with their shitty lives and never want to expend the energy and build to improve their lot in life.
Yet another thing where instead of bringing something like the Right to Repair which is the EU trying to enforce, fighting against planned obsolescence, forcing companies to design longer lasting, higher quality appliances like Miele, I could be totally on board with it, but what the frick is the moronation with smaller ones? Like, everyone who ever designed something knows that bigger is usually more efficient per energy spent. I just have no fricking idea.
>>all shipping declines to zero
It doesn't say that, but it sure would ve convenient to make fun of it, so that's what you are going with
Didn't even bother with the rest if you can write this much, but can't read more than one line, then what's the point
>It doesn't say that,
It literally says that verbatim in the image, moron.
>No what are you talking about, transportation via electric trains isn't a prominent point in, say, the first two lines of the image
Don't even bother, you read only what you can make fun of and discarded the rest, you are low IQ in the truest sense and I won't bother anymore. Have good night (or whatever time it is for you) as well, I'm going and making pasta
Are you really that moronic or just trying to troll?
I'm sure running a fricking train, that can carry a fraction of a container ship, across or around the oceans is totally feasible.
Bongs can't be this moronic can they?
Theresa May made a law saying that the UK had to be net zero by 2050. This is just one of those cope images to say it's totally gonna happen carbon neutral sisters! In reality everyone in the UK who isn't deluded knows this isn't happening. Most of us are driving second hand petrol cars, ordering just as much shit as before, our boilers are the same ones we had before she passed the law, etc. The only thing dropping the amount of Co2 output is the fact that the average Brit is getting poorer and can't afford to do as much or heat the house as much as before. But who am I kidding, the only way this country is becoming carbon neutral is if they turn everyone into literal medieval peasants while the rich drive around in Teslas and the government would happily do it.
The funniest shit is, giving tax rebates for renovations, insulating houses, replacing aging heating equipment etc. would have achieved ten times more, especially as many buildings in bongistan are in a hilariously derelict condition and hasn't been properly renovated since the germans were flying ahead but no, lets just burn money on stupid pipe dreams instead of small, actionable, livable improvements which directly benefit people and show them, build trust in that environmentalism and optimization can actually mean savings in bills not more difficulties.
Sometimes I genuinely do believe the government has been infiltrated by satanic cults who just wish to inflict the greatest amount of suffering on every man, woman and child possible to allow them to create the largest sacrifice to Moloch the world could ever see. Other times I just think they're incompetent. It's funny that things have gone so downhill that these could be one and the same.
I would say is it too much to ask for a government that can even just manage the status quo but that would be a herculean task to those in office apparently.
>Just reduce everything lol
A man was paid a salary to write this bullshit
>Have problem
>Reduce use
>Absolute zero
>???
>Profit
lmao
Piss off with your children's blue space cat cartoons. Stuff like this is why you're still a virgin.
>muh ebin twist
kys
Nah, Cameron knows how to do fricking twists, and I wouldn't put it past him to pull off something this crazy and cool. Terminator 1 and 2, if you didn't know, were conceived at the same time. Cameron WANTED the audience to feel the fear of the original Terminator, only to subvert the audience's expectations in the sequel by having the terminator be the hero. A twist like in OP's image is right up his alley.
I don't know enough to refute you, but you really think so? Because from 1st to 2nd movie the jump from stereotypical human greed evil to moronic levels of captain planet cartoon villain evil was quite jarring and it almost seemed like someone went
>Nooo! You aren't supposed to empathize with the humans!!! I know, I make them so evil it doesn't even make sense anymore!
And I wonder if that same person would pull a twist where the entity that the Na'vi see as some sort of nature deity is actually isn't all good and stops them from progressing so it can control and probably even feed on them. It would be a cool twist, but I don't see it with how extreme black and white the movies try to be.
I can't follow your interpretation honestly. What leads you to believe this? There's a lot done to make the human faction relatable and multidimensional and so far the native navii while getting the benefit of being the underdogs, are equally portayed with their bad sides like their own xenophobia and aversion to change
For one, it went from humans trying to get a resource that they might or might not need for Earth in 1st movie to it becoming not important in the 2nd practically admitting that it was all just greed and now all the Pandora operations are financed by getting rare immortality whale oil in the most overly convoluted cruel way possible to the point of becoming nonsense. And it didn't stop there, because humans weren't lower comically evil creatures enough by hunting alien whales so the movie has a researcher point out how these extreme pacifistic whales are actually smarter than humans and have a higher and more more developed understanding of culture and arts, where one of the whales was somehow a famous song composer among whale- and na'vi-kind.
>humans weren't lower comically evil creatures enough by hunting alien whales
I think that's one of the points of these movies. You say omg that is so evil its moronic. But that sort of stuff happens all the time on earth.
Kaczynskipunk my beloved
That's a moronic leap in logic, and a god awful twist.
Why is the writing in these movies so trash?
has to be streamlined as much as possible for maximum general appeal
if you beyond "family good" and "mining resources bad" then pop corn munching moms wont be able to follow the plot
All of James Cameron’s autism went into designing the ecosystem and cool looking animals. He’s like frank herbert but for movies.
>the ecosystem and cool looking animals.
Shit is more boring than No Man's Sky.
It's not really that much of a twist when you think about it, the tree is just a different form of Reaper from Mass Effect. Instead of harvesting each cycle looking for a solution to the problem of synthetics rising against life, the tree is looking for a solution while enforcing strict laws upon the organics which he overlords
Xeno abominations
>wait, so...
Fkn duh.
>fake nerds can't recognize an obvious trope even when it's baring down on them like freight train.
This is how shills out themselves. You're not one of us, and you never will be.
>Oh WOW bros!!!
No.
Eywa being just a really advanced computer would kinda be israeli, I hope Cameron doesn't do it but I can also see him doing it. It'd be pretty dark twist, imagine being a Na'vi and discovering that your God is just a fancy sky demon toy.
Pandora is a world that’s been engineered into a paradise by a previous sapient species.
And that sapient species are the NTIs from “The Abyss.”
Eywa is a "benevolent" AI designed by the elites to make sure the common Na'avi eat bugs, own nothing and be happy. BRAVO CAMERON!
This is LE BAD.
No, that is LE FURRY FANTASY
Guess I'm furry now because I want a healthy family too
You don't have to be in a pile of homosexualry to have a healthy family.
>tradlife is bad if you're too hairy
K Y S
They are less hairy than hoomans
gross
How deranged do you need to be to want to snuggle naked with your mom, dad and siblings?
it's a cool idea
skynet, except it enslaves you
and then shows what happens when invaders show up and you've been kept primitive and unable to fight back
so ultimately technology is good and humans are based
Pandora is probably some kind of engineered world with Eywa as an intelligent network. I think ultimately there will be some new evil spiky alien faction that will be as advanced to humans as humans are to Navi. They will have to unite against the new aliens blah blah blah. That'd be set up at end of movie three and resolved in movie four. If I was going to be super basic and predictable about it.
then why would they fill it with the rarest element in the universe that makes space flight capable but then limit your stupid species into savages.
Give them all the resources needed to be a technologically superior race but then keep them primitive.
Terrible feeble-minded post.
You could imagine an answer to your questions in seconds if you tried.
It doesnt even have to be a good answer, just one fit enough for a cameron movie
imagine when a not so moral and nice alien species discovers pandora and it's resources.
All things considered and what they could actually do, the humans are holding back a lot. They could just nuke the shits from orbit and harvest the mineral in HAV suits. Or sense they mastered the Navi genetic code just make a virus to wipe them all out.
instead they keep sending robot suits against bulletproof aliens.
>they fill it with the rarest element in the universe
they didn't fill it with anything. It had tons of Unobtanium readily available to *cue music* POWER EYWA FOREVER. Dumbshits like you though ca't get your feeble mind to comprehend this. Everything has to be about making as much plastic shit as possible, destroying the planet in the process and flying into le space to find another one to repeat.
>It had tons of Unobtanium readily available to *cue music* POWER EYWA FOREVER
and eywa is actually a neural network the size of a planet meant to solve the big question
and the vogons are going to bulldoze it out of nowhere at the end of movie 5
next villain is eywa to free the navi
So the Na'vi aren't just space Native Americans
They're space Amish Native Americans
seems dumb. How about you just use those things as responsible human beings?
These movies are so fricking bad
Is it okay with Eywa if I Tsaheylu with Tuk?
Oh shit. This could actually be amazing
it could be
but avatar isn't really that popular
nobody talks about it, kids dont dress up as navi or play with avatar toys, it's simply not in the public mind
so the impact would be minimal even though I really like the idea
>but avatar isn't really that popular
>first film is the highest grossing film of all time
>its sequel is only the 4th highest grossing film of all time
shut the frick up
there's 8 billion people on the planet
and yet nobody talks about avatar ever
still nonstop discussions for starwars, harry potter
entire websites for pokemon
show me one community that talks about avatar
This.
Avatar is the single biggest case of a movie where I believe its popularity to be 100% fake and staged. Nobody talks about it online or in person, and I have never seen evidence that any actual human has ever watched either of those movies (ticket sales are not evidence that some person actually was in the theater). It's some kind of weird tax scam for sure.
Everybody saw the first because it was the only worthwile 3D movie. Lot's of the same people saw the second.
We don't talk about it because there is not much to talk about. It's a 3D tech demo. {Insert John Carmack video game story quite here}
This. Its so fricking strange, like a modern age ghost story. Everyone knows about it but no one EVER watched it at a cinema or talks about it or anything. It spawned no memes, no one can quote a single line from the movie, it has zero pop culture relevance or even presence. Like a mysterious shared subconscious that no one remembers doing .
Oh shit, you're right. There's not even anyone in this thread. In fact, where am I right now?
>there's 8 billion people on the planet
>and yet nobody talks about avatar eve
So I agree with this but decide to check, went into r/Avatar, if there is a place where homosexuals talk about this shit movie must be there.
It's a bunch of furry porn and boomer memes. It feels like some MySpace or Tumblr community page, fricking hell. You bet this people drop blue paint on themselves and fap with furry dildos.
Nah, they crave the "connection".
wait. which end goes in my ass
Both. Its like an anal USB charger with your friend.
lol james cameron, its past your bed time
tbf
is 100% right
no one does avatar shit for halloween, there's no avatar cosplayers, there's hardly any avatar media besides the movies.
There are avatar cosplayers, there are even multiple lego sets for both movies
>There are avatar cosplayers, there are even multiple lego sets for both movies
The Marvels got Lego sets, and that was the worst performing superhero movie in history.
Lego dorks only bought those for the extra long legs because Legomaniacs value unique prices more than their ability to breath in and out.
"highest grossing" is meaningless when inflation is doubling the cost of goods every year.
>film released 12 years ago still outgrosses every film since despite subsequent record inflation
>this is an argument to prove that the film's success is meaningless
Are you genuinely moronic?
you guys are delusional, its going to be another generic ripped off story but on a "NEW SETTING"
not a chance. If avatar actually had that kind of depth it would have lead with it in the sequel.
nope, the entire purpose of way of water was to bridge avatar 1 with the story we're getting.
all the kids, avatar quaritch etc.
>when the headcannon is better than the actual story
Everyone is so concerned with sperging out due to their Deranged Avatar Syndrome, that they can't even stop to consider the interesting scifi story. The Na'vi were obviously advanced, they had spaceships, huge populations, lots of planets, etc. And it was either destroyed due to internal strife and wars or they decided it wasn't the way they wanted to live. How many anons always say the modern world is soulless, overcrowded, overly miserable compared to the past, pine to live in a time before? So the Na'vi decide they don't need their Funko Pops, social media, and plastic garbage, they want to return to monke. There's a pristine paradise moon of Pandora they can settle down on, they can live peaceful and idyllic lives and their descendents too. They set up Eywa to watch over everything and manage it, plus ensuring none of their descendents decides to start making technology again since it would likely destroy Pandora for everyone and just start the cycle of unhappiness again. Seems like something humans would eventually do too if they had the magic available in Avatar
I think they're supposed to be red
source?
It's me, Jim
>It's me, Jim
You used make movies people liked once. Now this utter shit,. You are old and should stop. Avatar 2 was boring crap. No one wants a sequel to that abomination.
They're called the ash tribe. I think they'll be gray
Eywa is a "natural" Avatar of all life
MUH BORING SMURF MOVIE SEQUELS YET NO ONE CARES EXCEPT THE MARKETING INTERN WHO OP IS
ancient na'vi got uppity and started growing crops and digging into the ground to build large monuments, hurting Eywa in the process. Eywa responded by directing the wildlife to destroy their civilization and since then the na'vi have known their place
na'vi shouldn't be objectified
Kirk is thinking hard about banging her
homie please
Kirk already spent all.night fricking her holes rawdog. Now he is impatiently waiting for the ships skiff to take her back to her shitty little tree planet so he can get back to doing important Starfleet Captain shit
b***h is lucky AF to carry Captain James Tiberius Kirk's superior seed within her womb.
Duh. If you don’t realize Avatar 2 was the origin story for a major villain you are fricking moronic.
>made-things bad
So, the plot from Final Fantasy X, just with Eywa instead of Yu Yevon, and without a cool immortal kaiju going around wrecking everyone’s shit.
All I can think about while watching any sort of media with a fantasy/primitive/post-apocalyptic setting is how bad everyone’s breath has to be.
A generic twist for the most generic story of all time.
There's nothing that's not generic, dumbshit. Everything has been done or is just too stupid to do.
A shame, when Na'vi and technology go so well together.
Na'vi hate technology
that's a shame
but they are technology
>na'avi have technology, but choose not to use it because they are oh so special
>humans have technology, but squander all their resources
kind of cringe, why not use technology and just build a sustainable economy
because white people are evil and native americans are good chud
wouldn't it make more sense to push environmentalism rather than the unabomber's manifesto
Shame what Cameron is doing to that character.
How come the Amish are superior to the Na'vi?
>their face when they hear you explain your opinions
>is that an HDMI cable?
Did anyone actually watch Avatar 2? I didn't, so I assume no one did. Zoomers weren't even alive for Avatar. Not one zoomer saw Avatar in the whole world.
>Did anyone actually watch Avatar 2?
Yes. It was kino. I say this as someone who didn't particularly enjoy the first film. Too long though
My exact take. I’d have cut a significant amount of the Sulleyss acclimating to the Metkayina
these movies take so damn long to come out that I didn't mind the length at all
I wonder if the third movie will also break box office records. He just can't do it again. It's not possible
It’s Jimbo.
Yes but i fear this will be too much for him even
Eywa is actually an alien being planted on Pandora by a coalition of alien species that fought the ancient highly advanced and extremely aggressive na'vi.
Eywa was planted on their homeworld after the na'vi were defeated since their enemies didn't want to genocide them but also wanted to make sure they never reached space again
The Pandorans lemurs from the first film are your earliest clue into what’s really happening.
Sounds very benevolent. Get to live in paradise, never wanting for anything, everyone gets a tradwife and family, very tight knit communities, can speak to your ancestors, get your own personal animal mounts. That's worth losing a war and giving up technology for
they're not monsters, giving of near magic technology had to be compensated somehow
Divinely enforced anarcho primitivism is the ideal society. Humans were happier when we were living in forests swinging clubs at each other. It's what we evolved to do. But a more advanced society will be able to sustain a higher population and have better weapons, so will marginalize a less advanced one every time. That's why we need a God to enforce it.
Please stop posting Mr McCandless, you died over 30 years ago.
Lol.
Imagine coming across alien AI so sufficiently sophisticated, so deeply ingrained, that it is essentially synonymous with nature itself. Invisible, everywhere, but also nowhere.
It’s basically magic at that point. No different from the movie Annihilation, or the book ‘The War Against the Chtorr’. It was made by *something* intelligent. Poke it at your own peril.
Settings like Dungeons & Dragons, or any fiction with (a) hard magic (system) really, rely on this sort of logical thinking to even narratively exist, being so damn conveniently contrived, or just artificially arbitrary. Hidden, occult infrastructure.
Human-derived AI is already steadily reaching this point, and soon the age of the techno-shaman will be upon us. Cellphones are already wands, and apps are already spells. Cults will arise.
The concept of faeries, demons, angels, godlike beings, etc, is all indistinguishably alien at the end of the day.
This is a “bad” thing, since ignorance may eventually become the norm.
IS THIS ANON TELLING THE TRUTH????? ARE ALIENS DEMONS?????
If “demon” means “evil being” than that isn’t exactly exclusive to aliens, now is it?
>you will soon gather around the fire with your bros and hook up your brain jack to channel a 5G Legba
Am I the only one who doesn't give a frick about Avatar and just wants to see another Battle Angel movie?
Anybody who begins their statement with "am I the only one?" is a certified basic b***h
those tree huggers and their homosexual deity deserve the purification of fire.
The opening of Way of Water was dope. Cameron made the humans way too cool, you can't hate them.
Ok that scorched earth landing was pretty badass.
Frick blueBlack folk
love me some isv as well
amazing ship design
It's so embarrassing to compare this to literally any marvel film and think "this is what you could be doing with your ridiculous budgets"
love me Valkyrie
Test
>AAA Avatar game released in December
>huge flop
It was supposed to release when the movie did, instead they stupidly released it a year late. Plus constrained it to ubislop like utter morons. Here's hoping they learned their lesson and the Avatar 3 game will do better
I actually enjoyed the original avatar game. You could play as the RDA and there was a cool little mini game where you conquer the planet. The moment I heard that there wasn't going to be an option for an RDA play through I lost all interest because I knew it was just going be cheap garbage with le pwetty gwaphics.
it's not on steam yet so it hasn't actually released
making Neyney sad should be illegal
>humans have paradise on Earth
>overpopulate it
>pollute it as much as possible
>squander all resources on consumable plastic trash to dump in landfills and toss in the ocean
>fly to only other habitable planet they've ever found in space
>immediately start destroying it
>demand Na'vi take pity on you
>Oh don't you see?! We can pave your forests, lay down roads, and give you Geo Metros to drive! We can give every one of your a 200" flat screen tv that plays 24/7 sports ball with advertisements to buy our processed slop! Take pity on us, we NEED to destroy your planet for its resources so we can continue CONSUMING!
Imagine letting some multi millionaire pontificating c**t like James Cameron convince you you have to live like a medieval peasant on a vegan diet while living in a communal dormitory in an amazon warehouse with no possessions of your own or the planet will die because weather magic. How fricking stupid are you anyway?
>be human
>find a treasure hoard that would allow you to advance technology and live in wealth and luxury
>expected to turn it down and wallow in the mud because a dirty little monkey is sat beside it
Yeah, nah those c**ts can get fricked, it's ours.
cameron wouldn't understand that because he's lived a suburban middle class life (inb4 abatap fanboy tards try to pretend like he didn't have a safety net the whole time he drove trucks) which is why he developed his pompous personality and moved to hollywood
Eywah is a synthetically created lifeform. It's biological super computer with artificial intelligence. It's a rip off of the memory tree from Nier Replicant.
Not gonna watch it just like the last two
where's the hose wiener???
I am aware of technology and yet I never had a race of beings invent it on my body nor am I an alien.
Avatar is just a ham-fisted allegory of indigenous people good, colonialism bad. Cameron should have just continued with the Alita movies.
It's been kind of known for 15 years. It's an AI. The navi can plug into everything. The carbon 60 in them. It was supposed to be the 3rd movie now 5th they are going back to earth. Pandora is artificial. The core is filled with little insect like drones or was.
It was hinted some alien race destroyed itself and created Pandora and the other moons
Anons will simultaneously assert the cultural irrelevance of Avatar while bumping a thread on the topic to its absolute limit
absolute moron tier post
you meant to type
>Anons will simultaneously assert the cultural irrelevance of Avatar and bump a thread on the topic to its absolute limit
thanks mom
stop seething over enviromentalism, this is a na'vi thread
Gather around children I figured out the twist years ago because I’m smart. When they go to earth, the navi will use human avatars so we will see zendaya Jake and a de aged sigourney weaver walking on a polluted, no, a dying earth. Then they will have the magguffin seed Bull shit that wil allow the pandora plants who thrive on pollution (it’s in the books) to “fix earth.” So humanity will get to live and die twice. When humans get old they turn to avatars and get to live forever in Aywa.
I love Kiri like you wouldn't believe
>CGI grass
And? Looks better than LITERALLY every single other movie. Reminder, CGI in itself is not bad. Only crappy pajeet cgi is bad. Just because you can pause a movie and analyze every frame with a magnifying glass doesn't make it poor quality. And especially doesn't mean you need to seethe over every little thing like you're some expert film critic.