The aesthetic of the old postcard color palette/associated sense memory is insufferable as a sustainable runtime motif.
The tool of digital color grading has been abused for far too long by this weird dollhouse play maker. You’re from Houston you affected dork.
I do like the style, maybe it’s just a touch too bright. For a 1h 45m movie it’s ok but if it was something like a long tv show it would absolutely fuck up my eyes.
Is it just me or is he intentionally revealing the fake background to the audience here? I heard this is something he gets off on, like its the opposite of immersion
He blocks, shoots and purposely designs his productions to emulate the stage play. It’s artifice used to disarm and get to an emotional truth that can’t be expressed by the director in any other way. Weapons grade autism sitting in a director’s chair.
him being a toy boy is literally what this whole story is about, also because he always fucked older women and never reproduced he viewed that boy as his son. ever heard of the word dandy?
jesus christ you really are a certified retard.
him being a toy boy is literally what this whole story is about, also because he always fucked older women and never reproduced he viewed that boy as his son. ever heard of the word dandy?
jesus christ you really are a certified retard.
just because he fucks old women doesn't mean he isn't gay retard
Yeah fucking men usually means that, which is never shown or implied. Unlike him fucking old rich broads
>I thought I was supposed to be a "fucking gay"? >>...You are, but you're bisexual. >Let's change the subject: I'm leaving.
It's right there in the fucking movie, you pair of spastics.
Some saturation is fine. Using the maximum setting is not. There's a reason you'll get shit on if you try posting photos looking like that in Cinemaphile.
i couldn't watch more than 1 minute of the trailer.
If you are willing to subject yourself to this torture chamber and pay for it, for more than 1 hour - you have something broken inside.
>Director has a unique style that no one else does >Assembly line movies from numerous directors with no distinction between any of them
Please tell me what it’s like to be retarded I’m genuinely curious
has a unique style that no one else does
Yeah, symmetry and bright colors, what a unique style.
Many directors use colors better than him and understand that not every scene needs to be symmetrical.
Wes is a total fucking hack who makes children's movies for young adults.
>Yeah, symmetry and bright colors, what a unique style
Name another director who has a style similar to his. I’ll wait. >Many directors use colors better than him
Like who? And just because “someone does it better” doesn’t mean it’s shit, that’s such a dumb take. Michael Jordan being the greatest basketball player ever doesn’t make the rest of the NBA players shit. >not every scene needs to be symmetrical
Who are you to decide what a scene “needs”? He has a style and likes to stick to it. His style works perfectly for the films he’s trying to make.
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>Name another director who has a style similar to his. I’ll wait.
Someone who only uses the same technique over and over again and doesn't try changing things up? Probably many hacks out there who do just that. >Like who
Kieslowski, Antonioni, Kurosawa, Scola, Bergman, etc.
I could go on but you get the point. >His style works perfectly for the films he’s trying to make.
Easily digestible garbage for manchildren? Sure.
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Anonymous
>Someone who only uses the same technique over and over again and doesn't try changing things up?
Way to dodge my question. You said his style wasn’t unique and now you can’t name a director who has a style like his. Embarrassing. >Kieslowski, Antonioni, Kurosawa, Scola, Bergman
Apples to oranges. Within the context of his films Anderson uses color just as well as anyone you listed >Easily digestible garbage for manchildren? Sure
How are they for man children?
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Anonymous
>Kieslowski, Antonioni, Kurosawa, Scola, Bergman, etc. >I could go on but you get the point.
Ok anon, /misc/ is a board for earnestly discussing movies, not listing the directors your creepy freshman year film elective professor made you watch at your state university art college.
We're not a fat college radio bitch with BPD, we're not impressed at your contrarian admiration of the "underground" while you nonsensically disparage a talented auteur of the mainstream.
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Anonymous
I've never seen Ettore Scola mentioned when talking about color
>Yeah, symmetry
I seriously don't get why people keep going on about symmetry with Wes. He shoots so many fucking scenes with asymmetry, scenes where he easily could have made it symmetrical but obviously chose not to. Was it brought up in some youtube fags video essay and everyone just started parroting it afterwards or what? Are people just looking at symmetrical screenshots and think the whole movie looks like that, instead of someone simply taking the screenshot because the symmetry stood out in that scene?
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Anonymous
congrats anon, you've just discovered people online are fucking retarded. there's a reason all they're capable of doing is complaining on a mongolian basket weaving forum (and they can't even do that right)
He's the one director who brainlets who don't know anything about directors can spot. So of course he's the target for lots of abuse because they want all movies to look like the usual hollywood studio slop where they all ape each other.
I want to know what it's like to work on a Wes Anderson movie. Does he spend half an hour telling everyone exactly how they should pose and move? Does he make them hold still while he positions their limbs?
What's with the AI art memes always having the people in them do that bizarre nod/blinking they always do? Is there some program that makes these with those movements built in?
Probably. I remember them being a big thing a couple years ago where you'd take a picture and a website would animate the image singing a song. So probably just using something like that so that there's some motion involved that makes it more like shots from a film and not just screenshots of a film.
What they're doing is asking one ai to draw X Actor in Y Style, maybe feeding it specific pictures of the actor and Wes Anderson movie screenshots. Then they run it through a different ai that "animates" the picture, the one that's years old and that people used to animate their grandma's old photos and paintings and shit, which was never meant to be anything but a cute thing to do to old photos.
Then they post these still shots edited into a video reel online and go "OMG WE'RE FIVE MONTHS AWAY FROM MAKING FULL MOVIES INVEST IN AI WGMI"
yes mate, cameras are the devil, computers are evil, television and film is satanic, only cave paintings are real art yadda yadda yadda. absolute dork lol
>The social disruption that we see today is certainly not the result of mere chance. It can only be a result of the conditions of life that the system imposes on people. (We have argued that the most important of these conditions is disruption of the power process.) If the systems succeeds in imposing sufficient control over human behavior to assure its own survival, a new watershed in human history will have been passed. Whereas formerly the limits of human endurance have imposed limits on the development of societies (as we explained in paragraphs 143, 144), industrial-technological society will be able to pass those limits by modifying human beings, whether by psychological methods or biological methods or both. In the future, social systems will not be adjusted to suit the needs of human beings. Instead, human being will be adjusted to suit the needs of the system.
>Assuming that industrial society survives, it is likely that technology will eventually acquire something approaching complete control over human behavior. It has been established beyond any rational doubt that human thought and behavior have a largely biological basis. As experimenters have demonstrated, feelings such as hunger, pleasure, anger and fear can be turned on and off by electrical stimulation of appropriate parts of the brain. Memories can be destroyed by damaging parts of the brain or they can be brought to the surface by electrical stimulation. Hallucinations can be induced or moods changed by drugs. There may or may not be an immaterial human soul, but if there is one it clearly is less powerful that the biological mechanisms of human behavior. For if that were not the case then researchers would not be able so easily to manipulate human feelings and behavior with drugs and electrical currents.
Wes is one trick pony. His films are not that funny and he often casts awful actors like Adrian Brody, Owen Wilson, Jason Scheartzman etc. It's nice that he has his own thing and he is sorta unique in today's climate but eh, that doesn't make him a great one. Jeez, a new Wes Anderson ensemble mooobie? Same old stuff-white-people-like food. Let's rather watch who he takes from.
I like wes anderson's one trick. Though isle of dogs was a total bore.
imagine the bush
I just don't get the appeal of bush. a bit of hair to run the tips of your fingers through can be pretty aesthetically pleasing, but what's sexy about a full-on bush?
Jesus Christ anon your taste sucks. Train a dog and maybe it will cure you of your obvious gayry.
Bush is both a natural secondary sex characteristic that men have evolved to instinctually view as a signal of fertility and a glorious source of stimulation that tickles your pelvis as a she presses up against you. How can you not enjoy a beautiful woman's body in the form God intended it to be? Who the fuck wants razor bumps and scratchy stubble where you put your cock?
Wes is the most overrated director out there. It's not art when you do the exact same thing and produce the exact same way and shoot scenes the exact same way and cast the exact same way and write the same way your entire career. Wes is a hack who doesn't know how to do anything creative or original, so he falls back on the one gimmick he always does and trusts his braindead college art history major fan base to suck him off for it
His style is secondary to telling his story, who the fuck cares if it's got the same visual techniques when the sets, characters, and stories are completely different?
Who's a director that doesn't repeat elements of their own cinematographic style? I bet you like Scorsese you fucking retard.
Honestly I wish he would tone down his style a little bit because he's a decent storyteller and I like his optimistic, almost innocent worldview but the excessive aesthetics make his movies feel like memes.
Yes, watch life aquatic or Moonrise kingdom. They're quite kitsch and cutesy but they're very well made and unless you're completely dead inside they usually make you feel good inside.
Yes. He's one of the least cookie-cutter directors out there because he's allowed to do his thing instead of having the studio suits changing shit to look and feel more mainstream.
the ground is flat
the fucking ground is totally flat
THATS why it looks wierd to me. I finally understand. all you assholes were harping on about colors and focus, and the entire time I was thinking "no, that's not it". incapable of seeing what was right in front of me the whole time. damn
what does the backdrop have to do with there not being a single stone or bump in the ground anywhere in frame?
Can I please, PLEASE, have another anon say "yeah that's a wierd choice and definitely part of the reason why it looks so postcard-y" and make me feel like I'm not insane?
If I have to read another reply coming from someone that didn't actually read my post, I'm going to go postal
it's meant to look like a stage with some sand sprinkled on it. Movies have been doing shit like this to evoke stagecraft for a hundred years, it's nothing new.
Visually this is a complete disaster. When the trailer dropped everyone was saying it's just his style but her never had a movie that looked this bad. It's like he brought up the shadows so much that everything is a midtone or a highlight. It's unbelievably ugly and amateurish. The AI videos mog Asteroid City just by having proper range and contrast. I feel like I'd get a headache watching this in theaters.
>movies are either dark and colorless or weirdly saturated and bad looking
why can't we just have normal lighting
>colorless or weirdly saturated
The words you’re looking for are unsaturated colors.
my words were fine don't @ me again
Don’t take it the wrong way, I wasn’t being condescending, I was only trying to help.
>movies are either dark and colorless or weirdly saturated and bad looking
I can't watch anything from the past decade+ because of this.
The aesthetic of the old postcard color palette/associated sense memory is insufferable as a sustainable runtime motif.
The tool of digital color grading has been abused for far too long by this weird dollhouse play maker. You’re from Houston you affected dork.
>old postcard color palette
Were the old postcards originally like that or did they get discoloured from sun damage?
I've definitely seen ones that were that way to begin with, because they used shitty printing techniques or something.
I do like the style, maybe it’s just a touch too bright. For a 1h 45m movie it’s ok but if it was something like a long tv show it would absolutely fuck up my eyes.
Literally and figuratively filtered
Is it just me or is he intentionally revealing the fake background to the audience here? I heard this is something he gets off on, like its the opposite of immersion
He blocks, shoots and purposely designs his productions to emulate the stage play. It’s artifice used to disarm and get to an emotional truth that can’t be expressed by the director in any other way. Weapons grade autism sitting in a director’s chair.
>It’s artifice used to disarm and get to an emotional truth that can’t be expressed by the director in any other way.
Don't think it works.
Yes, it's a tableau. He has an extremely fixed postmodern approach to filmmaking, he doesn't want anyone to think for a moment that any of it is real.
Very feminine aesthetic. Is Wes a flamboyant?
took you this long to notice?
would a masculine man make a movie about a perfume wearing effeminate twink who mostly hangs around young boys?
him being a toy boy is literally what this whole story is about, also because he always fucked older women and never reproduced he viewed that boy as his son. ever heard of the word dandy?
jesus christ you really are a certified retard.
just because he fucks old women doesn't mean he isn't gay retard
Yeah fucking men usually means that, which is never shown or implied. Unlike him fucking old rich broads
Are we talking about the director or the character!?!
>I thought I was supposed to be a "fucking gay"?
>>...You are, but you're bisexual.
>Let's change the subject: I'm leaving.
It's right there in the fucking movie, you pair of spastics.
he's married to a french-lebanese woman
imagine the bush
That's so quirky
ahhh is that saturation I'm going insaaane
Some saturation is fine. Using the maximum setting is not. There's a reason you'll get shit on if you try posting photos looking like that in Cinemaphile.
But OP original is unsaturated. This is saturated.
Lol no you only make it slightly darker
There’s not much you can do with a .jpg, you need a .raw image to adjust it properly.
prompt?
i couldn't watch more than 1 minute of the trailer.
If you are willing to subject yourself to this torture chamber and pay for it, for more than 1 hour - you have something broken inside.
>NOOOO THIS ISNT LIKE MY MARVEL MOVIES IM GOING INSANE
Reddit director who only knows of le bright (and often clashing) colors and symmetry.
He is a fucking hack and has never made anything good.
Don’t worry the next Marvel movie will be out soon enough for you
Gay Fagersson is marvel-tier goyslop.
>Director has a unique style that no one else does
>Assembly line movies from numerous directors with no distinction between any of them
Please tell me what it’s like to be retarded I’m genuinely curious
has a unique style that no one else does
Yeah, symmetry and bright colors, what a unique style.
Many directors use colors better than him and understand that not every scene needs to be symmetrical.
Wes is a total fucking hack who makes children's movies for young adults.
>Yeah, symmetry and bright colors, what a unique style
My bro stop embarrasing yourself
Literally all he """knows""" how to do you stupid gay.
His movies are all insufferable and repetitive.
>Yeah, symmetry and bright colors, what a unique style
Name another director who has a style similar to his. I’ll wait.
>Many directors use colors better than him
Like who? And just because “someone does it better” doesn’t mean it’s shit, that’s such a dumb take. Michael Jordan being the greatest basketball player ever doesn’t make the rest of the NBA players shit.
>not every scene needs to be symmetrical
Who are you to decide what a scene “needs”? He has a style and likes to stick to it. His style works perfectly for the films he’s trying to make.
>Name another director who has a style similar to his. I’ll wait.
Someone who only uses the same technique over and over again and doesn't try changing things up? Probably many hacks out there who do just that.
>Like who
Kieslowski, Antonioni, Kurosawa, Scola, Bergman, etc.
I could go on but you get the point.
>His style works perfectly for the films he’s trying to make.
Easily digestible garbage for manchildren? Sure.
>Someone who only uses the same technique over and over again and doesn't try changing things up?
Way to dodge my question. You said his style wasn’t unique and now you can’t name a director who has a style like his. Embarrassing.
>Kieslowski, Antonioni, Kurosawa, Scola, Bergman
Apples to oranges. Within the context of his films Anderson uses color just as well as anyone you listed
>Easily digestible garbage for manchildren? Sure
How are they for man children?
>Kieslowski, Antonioni, Kurosawa, Scola, Bergman, etc.
>I could go on but you get the point.
Ok anon, /misc/ is a board for earnestly discussing movies, not listing the directors your creepy freshman year film elective professor made you watch at your state university art college.
We're not a fat college radio bitch with BPD, we're not impressed at your contrarian admiration of the "underground" while you nonsensically disparage a talented auteur of the mainstream.
I've never seen Ettore Scola mentioned when talking about color
Not always symmetry (although he does use a lot of it) but always very precise framing and a flat, straight, minimalistic, almost play-like look.
See:
It's charming, I wouldn't want to see his movies every day but I watch them once when they come out and it's a pleasant experience.
>Yeah, symmetry
I seriously don't get why people keep going on about symmetry with Wes. He shoots so many fucking scenes with asymmetry, scenes where he easily could have made it symmetrical but obviously chose not to. Was it brought up in some youtube fags video essay and everyone just started parroting it afterwards or what? Are people just looking at symmetrical screenshots and think the whole movie looks like that, instead of someone simply taking the screenshot because the symmetry stood out in that scene?
congrats anon, you've just discovered people online are fucking retarded. there's a reason all they're capable of doing is complaining on a mongolian basket weaving forum (and they can't even do that right)
>aliums
Is Wes a freemason?
>this whole thread
How the FUCK does Wes manage to filter so many people
He's the one director who brainlets who don't know anything about directors can spot. So of course he's the target for lots of abuse because they want all movies to look like the usual hollywood studio slop where they all ape each other.
I want to know what it's like to work on a Wes Anderson movie. Does he spend half an hour telling everyone exactly how they should pose and move? Does he make them hold still while he positions their limbs?
this is clearly aping that fucking SNL parody more than his actual movies
It's just AI art anon.
What's with the AI art memes always having the people in them do that bizarre nod/blinking they always do? Is there some program that makes these with those movements built in?
Probably. I remember them being a big thing a couple years ago where you'd take a picture and a website would animate the image singing a song. So probably just using something like that so that there's some motion involved that makes it more like shots from a film and not just screenshots of a film.
What they're doing is asking one ai to draw X Actor in Y Style, maybe feeding it specific pictures of the actor and Wes Anderson movie screenshots. Then they run it through a different ai that "animates" the picture, the one that's years old and that people used to animate their grandma's old photos and paintings and shit, which was never meant to be anything but a cute thing to do to old photos.
Then they post these still shots edited into a video reel online and go "OMG WE'RE FIVE MONTHS AWAY FROM MAKING FULL MOVIES INVEST IN AI WGMI"
I hate this shit
>THOU SHALT NOT MAKE A MACHINE IN THE LIKENESS OF A HUMAN MIND
Shut up dork
don't debase yourself into a machine.
Art and Value are the exclusive domains of Humanity
cringe
you're cringe, gay.
yes mate, cameras are the devil, computers are evil, television and film is satanic, only cave paintings are real art yadda yadda yadda. absolute dork lol
>The social disruption that we see today is certainly not the result of mere chance. It can only be a result of the conditions of life that the system imposes on people. (We have argued that the most important of these conditions is disruption of the power process.) If the systems succeeds in imposing sufficient control over human behavior to assure its own survival, a new watershed in human history will have been passed. Whereas formerly the limits of human endurance have imposed limits on the development of societies (as we explained in paragraphs 143, 144), industrial-technological society will be able to pass those limits by modifying human beings, whether by psychological methods or biological methods or both. In the future, social systems will not be adjusted to suit the needs of human beings. Instead, human being will be adjusted to suit the needs of the system.
>Assuming that industrial society survives, it is likely that technology will eventually acquire something approaching complete control over human behavior. It has been established beyond any rational doubt that human thought and behavior have a largely biological basis. As experimenters have demonstrated, feelings such as hunger, pleasure, anger and fear can be turned on and off by electrical stimulation of appropriate parts of the brain. Memories can be destroyed by damaging parts of the brain or they can be brought to the surface by electrical stimulation. Hallucinations can be induced or moods changed by drugs. There may or may not be an immaterial human soul, but if there is one it clearly is less powerful that the biological mechanisms of human behavior. For if that were not the case then researchers would not be able so easily to manipulate human feelings and behavior with drugs and electrical currents.
I'm not reading all that shit.
me either honestly
>AAAHHHHHH a director has a signature style that draws on theater techniques I'm losing my fucking mind
kys you fucking losers
>n-no… I-is that a director with his own style and full creative control of his own work?.. this can’t be happening…
Wes is one trick pony. His films are not that funny and he often casts awful actors like Adrian Brody, Owen Wilson, Jason Scheartzman etc. It's nice that he has his own thing and he is sorta unique in today's climate but eh, that doesn't make him a great one. Jeez, a new Wes Anderson ensemble mooobie? Same old stuff-white-people-like food. Let's rather watch who he takes from.
I like wes anderson's one trick. Though isle of dogs was a total bore.
I just don't get the appeal of bush. a bit of hair to run the tips of your fingers through can be pretty aesthetically pleasing, but what's sexy about a full-on bush?
>isle of dogs was a total bore
>I just don't get the appeal of bush
Jesus Christ anon your taste sucks. Train a dog and maybe it will cure you of your obvious gayry.
Bush is both a natural secondary sex characteristic that men have evolved to instinctually view as a signal of fertility and a glorious source of stimulation that tickles your pelvis as a she presses up against you. How can you not enjoy a beautiful woman's body in the form God intended it to be? Who the fuck wants razor bumps and scratchy stubble where you put your cock?
>Train a dog and maybe it will cure you of your obvious gayry.
I have two dogs, and have had a total of 9 dogs over the course of my life. Dogs are the fucking best.
I don't like hair in my teeth.
The razor merchants have gotten to you.
plenty of women have pubic hair that isn't a tangled bramble of garden gnome curls
He’s not the best but it’s kind of sad to see people tearing down the one slight breath of fresh air we get in the current industry
Looks like it has lots of cute girls tho.
is that day for night? it's so dark compared to what the lighting looks like
Don’t care that much about the movie opinions but a lot of people in this thread have broken eyes
Wes is the most overrated director out there. It's not art when you do the exact same thing and produce the exact same way and shoot scenes the exact same way and cast the exact same way and write the same way your entire career. Wes is a hack who doesn't know how to do anything creative or original, so he falls back on the one gimmick he always does and trusts his braindead college art history major fan base to suck him off for it
BORING AND NOT WATCHING
>It's not art when you do the exact same thing
art would disagree with you
His style is secondary to telling his story, who the fuck cares if it's got the same visual techniques when the sets, characters, and stories are completely different?
Who's a director that doesn't repeat elements of their own cinematographic style? I bet you like Scorsese you fucking retard.
Honestly I wish he would tone down his style a little bit because he's a decent storyteller and I like his optimistic, almost innocent worldview but the excessive aesthetics make his movies feel like memes.
on the contrary, his aesthetics are interesting, it's his scripts that sucks major ass, leaving visuals without purpose
As someone whose dad died when really young I appreciate all his variations of father figure stories.
>3 onaholes in the back
niiice...
They're children you sick fucks.
i have never seen a wes anderson film
am i missing out?
im not trans btw if that matters
Yes, watch life aquatic or Moonrise kingdom. They're quite kitsch and cutesy but they're very well made and unless you're completely dead inside they usually make you feel good inside.
Yes. He's one of the least cookie-cutter directors out there because he's allowed to do his thing instead of having the studio suits changing shit to look and feel more mainstream.
the ground is flat
the fucking ground is totally flat
THATS why it looks wierd to me. I finally understand. all you assholes were harping on about colors and focus, and the entire time I was thinking "no, that's not it". incapable of seeing what was right in front of me the whole time. damn
god damnit
yes, it's a painted backdrop
isnt it obvious?
what does the backdrop have to do with there not being a single stone or bump in the ground anywhere in frame?
Can I please, PLEASE, have another anon say "yeah that's a wierd choice and definitely part of the reason why it looks so postcard-y" and make me feel like I'm not insane?
If I have to read another reply coming from someone that didn't actually read my post, I'm going to go postal
Yeah that's a wierd choice and definitely part of the reason why it looks so postcard-y.
it's meant to look like a stage with some sand sprinkled on it. Movies have been doing shit like this to evoke stagecraft for a hundred years, it's nothing new.
Turn your backlight down. That is all.
Visually this is a complete disaster. When the trailer dropped everyone was saying it's just his style but her never had a movie that looked this bad. It's like he brought up the shadows so much that everything is a midtone or a highlight. It's unbelievably ugly and amateurish. The AI videos mog Asteroid City just by having proper range and contrast. I feel like I'd get a headache watching this in theaters.
>The AI videos mog Asteroid City just by having proper range and contrast.
opinion discarded
>Wes Anderson’s Close Encounters
Dishonest filmmaking
Meme term that only midwits use
quite literally filtered by filters
3 seconds in ms paint
kino
not kino
>DUDE SATURATED PASTELS AND SYMMETICAL SHOTS
I hate this hack so much.
>SYMMETICAL SHOTS
there's literally not a single part of that shot that's symmetrical
Digital coloring was the worse thing to happen to media.
looks cool like an old cartoon
>cast
Not enough black people
>rating
>low or average good
Could be a good movie.
The early movies he wrote with Owen Wilson were his best.
Looks positively dishonest.
Wes Anderson movies are the Wakanda for whites
>Jesus fucking crhist, Wes, these colors hurt my eyes.