Well since HotD pretty much did do that, with it being generally loved by fans and critics AND had a huge audience rivaling GoT's best days, it's pretty clear you're wrong.
You either don't know what the glory days were like or are conflating a decent success with glory days.
HotD not shitting the bed might be a borderline miracle after the uphill battle S8 left it with, but the IP itself is still in troubled waters due to Martin being a lazy c**t
What the frick are you on about? Numbers don't lie and you can google them out if you want to.
>The day after the series premiere, HBO said the episode had been viewed by an estimated 9.99 million viewers in the U.S. on its first night of availability – including linear viewers and streams on HBO Max – which it said was the largest single-day viewership for a series debut in the service's history, dethroning Euphoria.
>The finale of the first season was watched by 9.3 million viewers across all platforms during its premiere night according to HBO, which was the highest viewership for any finale of a HBO show since the series finale of Game of Thrones. The show averaged 9–9.5 million viewers for an episode on premiere night and 29 million total viewers after a week of release.
This AND the audience and critic opinions are what matters to HBO and they were very good all and all. So if one claims that the Jon Snow show was dependent on HotD's success then what gives exactly? So yea it obviously was not.
Also Martin being lazy c**t has nothing to do with HotD, which has it's story already written to the end and it wouldn't have had anything to do with the hypothetical Snow-show that would have followed GoT cannon not book cannon anyway.
I didn't you moron. I said that if you imply that Jon Snow spinoff was dependent on HotD's success, and it turned out to BE A SUCCESS if you look at viewership and critic and audience opinions then how come the Snow spinoff was canned then? Does not exactly fit this logic no does it?
HotD is alright but it's definitely not reigniting the same glory days and hype of early GoT. GoT became the internet's baby around S3-S4. HotD is generally considered to just be a competent TV drama and that's it.
They were going to go with Young Griff coming to avenge Dany and upend the kingdom as the true heir. Obviously, they decided not to because this would be a moronic season.
>Avenge Dany
Cinemaphile Dany is evil > In the books, Daenerys shows horrified despair when Viserys draws steel in Vaes Dothrak, knowing that her brother has sentenced himself to death. She also pleads with Viserys for a reconciliation. In the show, her reaction to his execution is dispassionate. In the books, it's evident Daenerys still loved her brother, despite his abusive behavior toward her, and remembers him with guilt. She acknowledges his faults but also how he took care of her in their early years together until he snapped under the strain of their exile and difficult life. On the show, when she reminisces on her recently-departed sibling, it is without a hint of fondness and is instead dripping with scorn or derision. > In the books, Daenerys does not lock Xaro and Doreah in a vault to die. Xaro is still alive as of A Dance with Dragons, whereas Doreah perished from a wasting illness while Dany's khalasar were forced to wander the Red Waste. > In the books, Daenerys doesn't threaten to burn cities, nor does she feed a noble to her dragons to send a message in response to Barristan's death at the hands of the Harpy. Barristan is still alive in the books, for one thing, but Dany is also horrified at the idea of her dragons eating anyone.
I don't even remember what happened to jon snow. Well he either died or he was there at the end. Neither sound very interesting points to start some tv spinoff shoow
>made to take the black >for an organisation that no longer exists because they all fricking died >an organisation that has literally no reason to exist anymore
>sent a thousand miles north to the wall as penance for his crime and only because some eunuch demanded it >eunuch immediately fricked off to some island to the east and has no way of knowing if Jon actually goes to the wall or not >Jon could easily just stop at Winterfell and remain there with Queen Sansa as her loyal and trusted advisor considering she needs all the experienced men she can get to repair her realm >Jon still goes to the wall
this show was so dumb
Not to mention that the king is his brother, everyone has depleted and exhausted armies, winter is still a factor and the north fricking seceded.
Even from the outset, they could have flat out told everyone to piss off. With the eunuch squad gone and dorne back to being irrelevant, what exactly were they planning to do if Jon just squatted at Winterfell?
Who exactly was Jon's enemies going to be if he went beyond the wall? Small time wildling lords trying to set themselves up as big guys? It'd also be total bullshit if he disocvered some ancient evil that was worse than The Night King. They didn't really think this one through
Real talk right move is not to make it. But assuming they made the wrong move and did the show, there are good ways to do an epilogue series focused on one character. And that is a smaller character development-focused story. The villain should be his internal demons and regrets, in combination with the elements. Action set pieces should be very sparce.
>Game of Thrones is dead.
That spinoff with a buncb of Black persond wiped the floor with lawd of them rangz (which had even more Black folk, coincidentally)
And he meets a beautiful girl on the boat who also loses her memory in the wreck. While they are in the small village they fall in love and have a baby. She's Arya.
The famous “three movie deal” with Sturr Wurs. Sold by the people who promised you a trilogy by Rian Johnson. And a new Rey trilogy. Didn’t those Westworld morons get floated a Star Wars thing once too?
Some twat at Disney gives out these movie promises like candy.
Perhaps they realized nobody else did. Kit was a flash in the pan and had no career since. Also what the frick would the story even be?
Shoulda died sooner. Lots of stuck in development projects have more viability than “remember that one guy who was famous for a couple if years”.
even without dragons it would have been an extremely expensive show to film considering his ending was "'I'm going to live beyond the wall"
It means dragging all the actors back to iceland and filming in grim conditions, Harrington probably wanted a big paycheck to freeze his balls off for months at a time again and all for a show that might not even be hit.
All they had to do was just take their time and develop the story more. If they didn't shorten the last few seasons, I bet the finale wouldn't have been so universally panned and maybe we'd be looking at it completely differently. Just felt like they rushed everything. Come to think of it though, DandD retconned Jamie hardcore and made him a Cersei simp, even though his character arc was a great story of redemption.
They could easily make a sequel show by ramping up the magic they cut from the books. The inciting incident could be Marwyn arriving at the Wall, getting kicked out of the Citadel and being 'rescued' by Grand Maester Samwell who sends him to Jon, along with Alleras and Lazy Leo. Introduce a fAegon plot and allow them to frick with the rest of Westeros with a glass candle and you've got a basic premise and that's just all I could think up in like what, 30 seconds?
Good riddance
>We couldn't find the right story to tell
There was never going to be one. The frick was HBO thinking?
Fireman coming from the south could have worked, then in last season climax bring iceman back to life and team up with jon snow to battle the fireman
Yeah I mean. who has a better story than Bran the Broken?
the guy ned beheads in the pilot
>the frick was HBO thinking
It wasn’t their idea, it was Kits. But the same applies, if Kit actually thought that HBO would green light this then he’s delusional.
They were thinking
>let's see if HoD reignites the glory days
>if not, then lmao frick off, manlet
Well since HotD pretty much did do that, with it being generally loved by fans and critics AND had a huge audience rivaling GoT's best days, it's pretty clear you're wrong.
You either don't know what the glory days were like or are conflating a decent success with glory days.
HotD not shitting the bed might be a borderline miracle after the uphill battle S8 left it with, but the IP itself is still in troubled waters due to Martin being a lazy c**t
>HotD not shitting the bed
It’s already got problems that I feel like are only going to get worse as it goes on.
What the frick are you on about? Numbers don't lie and you can google them out if you want to.
>The day after the series premiere, HBO said the episode had been viewed by an estimated 9.99 million viewers in the U.S. on its first night of availability – including linear viewers and streams on HBO Max – which it said was the largest single-day viewership for a series debut in the service's history, dethroning Euphoria.
>The finale of the first season was watched by 9.3 million viewers across all platforms during its premiere night according to HBO, which was the highest viewership for any finale of a HBO show since the series finale of Game of Thrones. The show averaged 9–9.5 million viewers for an episode on premiere night and 29 million total viewers after a week of release.
This AND the audience and critic opinions are what matters to HBO and they were very good all and all. So if one claims that the Jon Snow show was dependent on HotD's success then what gives exactly? So yea it obviously was not.
Also Martin being lazy c**t has nothing to do with HotD, which has it's story already written to the end and it wouldn't have had anything to do with the hypothetical Snow-show that would have followed GoT cannon not book cannon anyway.
lmao, fake numbers.
I can say same shit
>ACTUALLY HOTD WAS VIEWED BY 100000000 PEOPLE!!!!
Yeah they are not. You're welcome to try to prove them fake but those are the numbers. Must be hard to be mentally challenged like that.
Your show is lame a deriviative. Thank you.
how was game of thrones more original
If you think that HotD is going to get any where near the same cultural height that the og show did then you are kidding yourself.
I didn't you moron. I said that if you imply that Jon Snow spinoff was dependent on HotD's success, and it turned out to BE A SUCCESS if you look at viewership and critic and audience opinions then how come the Snow spinoff was canned then? Does not exactly fit this logic no does it?
HotD is alright but it's definitely not reigniting the same glory days and hype of early GoT. GoT became the internet's baby around S3-S4. HotD is generally considered to just be a competent TV drama and that's it.
They weren't. They already ruined his character with GoT.
They were going to go with Young Griff coming to avenge Dany and upend the kingdom as the true heir. Obviously, they decided not to because this would be a moronic season.
>Avenge Dany
Cinemaphile Dany is evil
> In the books, Daenerys shows horrified despair when Viserys draws steel in Vaes Dothrak, knowing that her brother has sentenced himself to death. She also pleads with Viserys for a reconciliation. In the show, her reaction to his execution is dispassionate. In the books, it's evident Daenerys still loved her brother, despite his abusive behavior toward her, and remembers him with guilt. She acknowledges his faults but also how he took care of her in their early years together until he snapped under the strain of their exile and difficult life. On the show, when she reminisces on her recently-departed sibling, it is without a hint of fondness and is instead dripping with scorn or derision.
> In the books, Daenerys does not lock Xaro and Doreah in a vault to die. Xaro is still alive as of A Dance with Dragons, whereas Doreah perished from a wasting illness while Dany's khalasar were forced to wander the Red Waste.
> In the books, Daenerys doesn't threaten to burn cities, nor does she feed a noble to her dragons to send a message in response to Barristan's death at the hands of the Harpy. Barristan is still alive in the books, for one thing, but Dany is also horrified at the idea of her dragons eating anyone.
I don't even remember what happened to jon snow. Well he either died or he was there at the end. Neither sound very interesting points to start some tv spinoff shoow
he was made to take the black again yes the whole long dark night long
>made to take the black
>for an organisation that no longer exists because they all fricking died
>an organisation that has literally no reason to exist anymore
maybe they kinda forgot about no longer having a purpose
>bravo D&D
>sent a thousand miles north to the wall as penance for his crime and only because some eunuch demanded it
>eunuch immediately fricked off to some island to the east and has no way of knowing if Jon actually goes to the wall or not
>Jon could easily just stop at Winterfell and remain there with Queen Sansa as her loyal and trusted advisor considering she needs all the experienced men she can get to repair her realm
>Jon still goes to the wall
this show was so dumb
Nothing will top people hiding in the crypts while they're under attack by monsters who can raise the dead.
Not to mention that the king is his brother, everyone has depleted and exhausted armies, winter is still a factor and the north fricking seceded.
Even from the outset, they could have flat out told everyone to piss off. With the eunuch squad gone and dorne back to being irrelevant, what exactly were they planning to do if Jon just squatted at Winterfell?
idunwannit
For everyone's sake, just let it die. You can't reanimate a desecrated corpse
you know damn well they aren't gonna let it die
House of the Dragon's fun THOUGH
Only someone extremely deluded would believe people still give a shit about Game of Thrones in the 2020s
He is the least charismatic actor since Sam Worthington. I hate looking at his shitty fricking face.
>less nu-fantasy slop
thank god
Who exactly was Jon's enemies going to be if he went beyond the wall? Small time wildling lords trying to set themselves up as big guys? It'd also be total bullshit if he disocvered some ancient evil that was worse than The Night King. They didn't really think this one through
It could have been a neonoir show about Jon and Sam
Real talk right move is not to make it. But assuming they made the wrong move and did the show, there are good ways to do an epilogue series focused on one character. And that is a smaller character development-focused story. The villain should be his internal demons and regrets, in combination with the elements. Action set pieces should be very sparce.
>Why did you stop the show, HBO?
>I DUN WUNT IT.
Who the frick cares? Game of Thrones is dead. D&D killed it and fatfrick GRRM will never finish the books.
>Game of Thrones is dead.
That spinoff with a buncb of Black persond wiped the floor with lawd of them rangz (which had even more Black folk, coincidentally)
i have an idea
jon snow is sailing across the ocean
the boat gets capsized
his men drown
jon snow washes up to shore
has NO memory of who he is
is taken in by a small village
that small village has an allegiance to an enemy of jon snow
jon snow - who has a different name given to him by his savoirs - is now actively working towards destroying jon snow
youre welcome homosexuals
t rad
and because jon snow's face is heavily disfigured from the accident, he is wearing a mask
And he meets a beautiful girl on the boat who also loses her memory in the wreck. While they are in the small village they fall in love and have a baby. She's Arya.
arya would should up and remain jon snow of who he is
would be fun to watch arya TRAIN jon snow how to fight
>beautiful girl
did you forget how fricking ugly maise is?
recast
problem solved
I feel like it could work, but it would have to take place years after GoT. Maybe old man snow or some shit.
Can someone remind me why the showrunners shit the bed at the last moment?
Didn't they get some Star Wars show offer?
The famous “three movie deal” with Sturr Wurs. Sold by the people who promised you a trilogy by Rian Johnson. And a new Rey trilogy. Didn’t those Westworld morons get floated a Star Wars thing once too?
Some twat at Disney gives out these movie promises like candy.
He only has the MCU left
Imagine the MCU being your only life line.
I dun wan it
Perhaps they realized nobody else did. Kit was a flash in the pan and had no career since. Also what the frick would the story even be?
Shoulda died sooner. Lots of stuck in development projects have more viability than “remember that one guy who was famous for a couple if years”.
Thankfully, jesus christ what a terrible idea
Just do prequels
even without dragons it would have been an extremely expensive show to film considering his ending was "'I'm going to live beyond the wall"
It means dragging all the actors back to iceland and filming in grim conditions, Harrington probably wanted a big paycheck to freeze his balls off for months at a time again and all for a show that might not even be hit.
This
I genuinely feel like this was just an excuse for Harrington to get some GoT money again.
How long until they do a GOT reboot?
2 more weeks
All they had to do was just take their time and develop the story more. If they didn't shorten the last few seasons, I bet the finale wouldn't have been so universally panned and maybe we'd be looking at it completely differently. Just felt like they rushed everything. Come to think of it though, DandD retconned Jamie hardcore and made him a Cersei simp, even though his character arc was a great story of redemption.
so it's obvious the got universe is dead
>show is kill
ESL bot
Where were you when gay was new.
is it really a radical opinion to want a GoT sequel rather than another prequel?
They could easily make a sequel show by ramping up the magic they cut from the books. The inciting incident could be Marwyn arriving at the Wall, getting kicked out of the Citadel and being 'rescued' by Grand Maester Samwell who sends him to Jon, along with Alleras and Lazy Leo. Introduce a fAegon plot and allow them to frick with the rest of Westeros with a glass candle and you've got a basic premise and that's just all I could think up in like what, 30 seconds?