This. You can always get away with shit writing it you can bring back the core actors, but even if you write a good script but replace a few key people, none of that matters nobody is buying it. Write was shit too btw not that it matters.
Just like all of opinions. Based on nothing but conjecture and a millions pages of commie nonsense philsophy that had no basis in human reality. He may as well be writing about 40k lore.
Just like everything Zizek says, he's drunk and rambles incoherently for 3 hours until his audience of 3 people feel too awkward to continue witnessing a man dying of liver failure and they leave.
The visual effects in this movie where so comically bad it almost felt like it was made terrible on purpose to "own" the red pill right wingers that had "co-opted the red pill ideology"
>felt like it was made terrible on purpose
That's how I always viewed it. The Wachowskis didn't wanna make a 4th film but they were forced to and so they made it so horrible that the studio wouldn't be able to capitalize on the franchise anymore.
Personally, pretty big. Every fricking scene was green screen. The only positives were talking about the machine lore and Trinity not being the damsel in distress anymore but in the most ham fisted way
>You know, I know this banana mayonnaise sandwich doesn't exist. >I just know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is mushy and delicious.
From what I remember, she fricking gave up a role in the Marvel universe to be in the Matrix. God, I wonder how bad she felt after the movie bombed. She must have thought it was gonna be as good as the first Matrix. Be a massive boost to her career.
I imagine very few of us were disappointed because we all expected it to be shit
>felt like it was made terrible on purpose
That's how I always viewed it. The Wachowskis didn't wanna make a 4th film but they were forced to and so they made it so horrible that the studio wouldn't be able to capitalize on the franchise anymore.
quoting myself: >I've said it before, but I think calling the movie 'good' or 'bad' misses the point. It's an uneven mess with a lot of flaws and some, in fact quite a few, redeeming qualities. The problem is, it tried to cram ten pounds of shit into a five pound bag. There's no focus, no tightness, the pacing is schizo, there are too many extraneous characters that add no value and just sort of pointlessly exist. The dialogue is sometimes great and sometimes unbelievably cringe (Neo and Trinity's lines for the last conversation with The Analyst are so bad, that it feels like both actors are struggling to deliver them). Keanu/Carrie/NPH do a generally great job, chick who played Bugs was better than I expected, Morpheus and Smith were awful. Niobe and the other fake-old b***h, awful. Most other randos? Awful. >Movie would've been a lot better if it was a radical departure towards an older kind of cinema: frick all the action, frick IO, frick all of that. Tell a grounded story almost wholly inside the matrix, largely from Neo's point of view, and let us work out what's real and what isn't...make it more like the first 35 minutes.
Remember when Carrie Ann Moss was talking about how good Matrix 4 was gonna be during the interviews before it was released? She was saying how awesomely clever the Wachowskis brought Neo and Trinity back to life and shit. Like it was some genius level writing. Lol, now that was some good acting on her part.
Meanwhile, she already knew, the movie was gonna suck ass and she's just there to promote it because she's contractually obligated to do so.
Mark Hamil and Last Jedi spring to mind. He didn't outright trash the movie, but saying he fundamentally disagreed with how his character was written to the point of referring to him as "Jake Skywalker" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.
kek based bob, but he honestly didn't say anything too bad. mainly comments the script and source material, but doesn't outright say it's a piece of shit movie (although he probably believed it)
he didn't tak shit. crystal skull came out in 2008 and it was the peak of his carreer, just saying transformers 2 came out after that. what taked it was probably fury, the last AAA production he partecipated in as far as I know, and stories of what an annoying c**t he was are notorious
I knew it was going to be shit when I got a Facebook notification about "The Matrix" page in my likes changing it's name to "The Matrix: revolutions". It was like half a year before the premiere and they were already stealing likes from their own movies to maintain the illusion of success.
Let’s put it this way. There are only two “hype” movies that I so far have refused to watch because of how bad they appear and that’s Matrix 4 and Rise of skywalker. I will likely never watch them. I wish I didn’t watch last Jedi either tho.
I know some people who thought it was genius by showing how bad movies really were, eg a satire of Hollywood. But I just thought it was bad and almost unwatchable.
Man, I loved the Matrix trilogy so much, that I actually forgot how bad Hollywood has gotten since the 90s. I genuinely had high hopes for Matrix 4. I really fricking did.
The original 3 movies were like a fricking religion to me. They still are, so yes, I was massively disappointed when I watched it in theaters.
But hey... at least we got the John Wick movies out of Keanu. To me, that franchise is the spiritual successor to the Matrix franchise.
not at all because not a single person on the planet expected anything from it. the fact normies didn't care enough to even trash talk it online is a sign that no one really cared enough about it
given how important this revival was supposed to be, it was very little. also I haven't met a single person who was hyped for this movie before release, no one gave a frick and it's the most hilarious thing the movie did, that is pretending anyone cared about this franchise in 2022
I kinda see the point that it's supposed to be shit and trolling the studios like Freddie Got Fingered. The exception is FGF wasn't an established beloved franchised that got shit on as collateral damage.
Not a disappointment at all if you didn't watch it because you don't watch any current year Hollywood products because you don't have any faith in Hollywood anymore.
It's very good actually, taking the piss out of themselves and making the ultimate deconstruction film. Yous were expecting something like The Matrix and you were wrong.
i really didn't know what to expect really
i like the sequels possibly more than the first movie
still i don't see deconstruction here
i'm still puzzled
>ultimate deconstruction film
Tell me you've never seen Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 Thrice Upon a Time without actually saying so. Some of you metamodernism babbies would never cut it at my gym. Get your Brecht on and I'll spot you.
similar to twin peaks: the return, matrix 4 was an exercise in intentionally destroying your own mythology so thoroughly that it wakes you up out of passive goyslop consumption, ie escaping the matrix. it’s masterful, really
The first Matrix only seemed good because it ripped off anime which was mostly unheard of in the West at the time. None of these movies are good. There, I said it.
>reminder that this scene is from what was considered the WORST matrix movie before 4 came out
yeah, it's a cool 22 seconds in a much-too-long chase sequence
the chase in To Live and Die in LA is a little over half the length, the pace is excellent, and the ending is very satisfying.
I don't even understand what the trannies were trying to accomplish. WB is STILL going to make another legit matrix movie that will at least be better than resurrections. There's no stopping it. Matrix is a pop culture icon it would be like trying to stop batman movies from being made. Dumb troons.
they made a 4th movie?
The first 30 minutes was good. Not great but I was curious where do they go with it.
And then they just dropped the meta commentary and just did a direct-to-video matrix sequel. Ok.
it goes from ironically bad to actually bad. it's a literal frick you letter to the fans
could have passed if they had hugo weaving and lawrence fishburn.
This. You can always get away with shit writing it you can bring back the core actors, but even if you write a good script but replace a few key people, none of that matters nobody is buying it. Write was shit too btw not that it matters.
That moron should have cut his hair.
so bad that nobody remembers it anymore
Based Zizek writing review without even viewing the movie
Just like all of opinions. Based on nothing but conjecture and a millions pages of commie nonsense philsophy that had no basis in human reality. He may as well be writing about 40k lore.
Just like everything Zizek says, he's drunk and rambles incoherently for 3 hours until his audience of 3 people feel too awkward to continue witnessing a man dying of liver failure and they leave.
No, if it were based on warhammer 40k "lore" it would be based on nothing but rampant plagiarism and overpriced plastic
Based. Don't waste your time on inherently soulless movies. Just give them a bad review and move.
No one knows it exists so no one was disappointed.
My dad was trying to watch matrix resurrections without any knowledge of the matrix, he was so pissed lol.
Is he like 80? My 50 y/o parents love the first Matrix.
Throughout the movie they show clips from the first Matrix and it just made me wish I was watching that instead.
they say to never reference a better film than yours in your own film
i loved the matrix but turned this shit off after 40 minutes of torture
The visual effects in this movie where so comically bad it almost felt like it was made terrible on purpose to "own" the red pill right wingers that had "co-opted the red pill ideology"
>felt like it was made terrible on purpose
That's how I always viewed it. The Wachowskis didn't wanna make a 4th film but they were forced to and so they made it so horrible that the studio wouldn't be able to capitalize on the franchise anymore.
Neo outright says it in the movie.
What an odd thing to say.
Personally, pretty big. Every fricking scene was green screen. The only positives were talking about the machine lore and Trinity not being the damsel in distress anymore but in the most ham fisted way
wait so you're telling me trinity is the real chosen one after all? shocking
As awful as Zoolander 2 and Bill and Ted face the music
the other editions of the "oh yeah those were movies that came out" trilogy
>You know, I know this banana mayonnaise sandwich doesn't exist.
>I just know that when I put it in my mouth, the Matrix is telling my brain that it is mushy and delicious.
>banana mayonnaise sandwich
eww gross
>asian character
>name is bug
the film went overboard with the meta
Follow the white rabbit = bugs bunny = bugs
She has a white rabbit tattoo
It's not exactly subtle
From what I remember, she fricking gave up a role in the Marvel universe to be in the Matrix. God, I wonder how bad she felt after the movie bombed. She must have thought it was gonna be as good as the first Matrix. Be a massive boost to her career.
>marvelslop
well either way she was fricked
That’s not a very big decision
I imagine very few of us were disappointed because we all expected it to be shit
quoting myself:
>I've said it before, but I think calling the movie 'good' or 'bad' misses the point. It's an uneven mess with a lot of flaws and some, in fact quite a few, redeeming qualities. The problem is, it tried to cram ten pounds of shit into a five pound bag. There's no focus, no tightness, the pacing is schizo, there are too many extraneous characters that add no value and just sort of pointlessly exist. The dialogue is sometimes great and sometimes unbelievably cringe (Neo and Trinity's lines for the last conversation with The Analyst are so bad, that it feels like both actors are struggling to deliver them). Keanu/Carrie/NPH do a generally great job, chick who played Bugs was better than I expected, Morpheus and Smith were awful. Niobe and the other fake-old b***h, awful. Most other randos? Awful.
>Movie would've been a lot better if it was a radical departure towards an older kind of cinema: frick all the action, frick IO, frick all of that. Tell a grounded story almost wholly inside the matrix, largely from Neo's point of view, and let us work out what's real and what isn't...make it more like the first 35 minutes.
I mean Revolutions was so bad any expectations must have already been in the toilet
>People troon out
>Lose their fricking mind and all creativity they ever had
Yep, tale as old as...well I guess the 1930s, we need to burn more books.
there used to be a term for these kind of movies, and that term was
>STV
I expected less than nothing and was pleasantly surprised
Remember when Carrie Ann Moss was talking about how good Matrix 4 was gonna be during the interviews before it was released? She was saying how awesomely clever the Wachowskis brought Neo and Trinity back to life and shit. Like it was some genius level writing. Lol, now that was some good acting on her part.
Meanwhile, she already knew, the movie was gonna suck ass and she's just there to promote it because she's contractually obligated to do so.
Congratulations you finally graduated from autism.
Have you ever seen a movie or tv show be roasted by its cast during its publicity tour?
Publicity tours are not to be trusted. Most things actors say aren't to be trusted as they lie for a living. This view will get you pretty far.
unironically GoT final season
the cast were saying 'nice' things, but it was obvious to anyone they were lying out their asses
Mark Hamil and Last Jedi spring to mind. He didn't outright trash the movie, but saying he fundamentally disagreed with how his character was written to the point of referring to him as "Jake Skywalker" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.
Robert Pattinson ripped the Twilight series a new butthole during promotional material
Tbh, I find him as more of a "literally me" than Goose
lmao fricking based just absolutely unapologetically fricking based
kek based bob, but he honestly didn't say anything too bad. mainly comments the script and source material, but doesn't outright say it's a piece of shit movie (although he probably believed it)
>FOR THEM
I have always like Pattinson. Glad hes diversified after that slog
>I'm a 108 years old, wtf am I doing with these kids?
lmao
He makes a lot of good points. Clearly tries to think about his characters.
Shia Lebeouf nuked his career talking shit about Indians Jones
he didn't tak shit. crystal skull came out in 2008 and it was the peak of his carreer, just saying transformers 2 came out after that. what taked it was probably fury, the last AAA production he partecipated in as far as I know, and stories of what an annoying c**t he was are notorious
meant tank and tanked
Laurence Fishburne shit on the sequels on several talk shows and that was while they were in theaters.
Oh so is that why the Wachowskis replaced him in the fourth movie?
She hasnt had much of a career since Matrix. She's doing what she has to do for a paycheque.
Possibly the worst mainstream movie I have ever watched its in a close second to afterearth for me.
After Earth is a fricking masterpiece compared to this turd.
Not disappointing at all because no one expected anything
I would love to see a prequel movie on like how either Morpheus or Trinity lived their lives before being freed from the Matrix.
I wasn't disappointed at all, because I expected it to be shit.
I knew it was going to be shit when I got a Facebook notification about "The Matrix" page in my likes changing it's name to "The Matrix: revolutions". It was like half a year before the premiere and they were already stealing likes from their own movies to maintain the illusion of success.
Let’s put it this way. There are only two “hype” movies that I so far have refused to watch because of how bad they appear and that’s Matrix 4 and Rise of skywalker. I will likely never watch them. I wish I didn’t watch last Jedi either tho.
The film tries to be a meta commentary on studio driven sequels. While being a studio driven sequels.
Matrix
No one can be told what the matrix is.
You have to see it for yourself.
It is inevitable.
i didn't even finish watching it
it was abysmal
So I think the story and the script could have worked if...
... they replaced the fight choreographer with Yuen Woo Ping
... they replaced the meme actor with Hugo Weaving
... they replaced the director with literally anyone else who wasn't prepapred to shit on their own legacy
my expectations weren’t very high so there was no room for disappointment, I’m just glad I lived long enough to see them fail. kill all troons
>women can't be good direc-
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"women"
The right one looks like he molests his children.
some of the meta shit was pretty good actually
i don't get how he would turn out that way
i don't really like this movie i don't know
it feels cheap just because
Horrible use of the Merovingian. Just horrible.
The first act of this movie is arguably as good as the first act of the original film. The movie goes downhill once they leave the Matrix.
I know some people who thought it was genius by showing how bad movies really were, eg a satire of Hollywood. But I just thought it was bad and almost unwatchable.
Old Keanu and trannies, massive disappointment is an understatement.
I liked it more than 2 or 3. Only thing I strongly disliked were the recastings.
The 4th matrix movie was the worst. It was also the least disappointing. Anyone who thought it would be anything other than utter shit is moronic.
Man, I loved the Matrix trilogy so much, that I actually forgot how bad Hollywood has gotten since the 90s. I genuinely had high hopes for Matrix 4. I really fricking did.
The original 3 movies were like a fricking religion to me. They still are, so yes, I was massively disappointed when I watched it in theaters.
But hey... at least we got the John Wick movies out of Keanu. To me, that franchise is the spiritual successor to the Matrix franchise.
>But hey... at least we got the John Wick movies out of Keanu. To me, that franchise is the spiritual successor to the Matrix franchise.
John Wick is another franchise that should have ended after the first movie in my opinion.
not at all because not a single person on the planet expected anything from it. the fact normies didn't care enough to even trash talk it online is a sign that no one really cared enough about it
What are you talking about? Plenty of people were trash talking about it online.
given how important this revival was supposed to be, it was very little. also I haven't met a single person who was hyped for this movie before release, no one gave a frick and it's the most hilarious thing the movie did, that is pretending anyone cared about this franchise in 2022
not much of one because i completely checked out of the matrix during the videogame fight with 100 smiths in the second one
it was supposed to look like a video game
Oh come on! The burly brawl was the best part of the franchise.
it was a total troony failure and even worse the rlm-morons said it was "meta" and "fun" and "good"
I kinda see the point that it's supposed to be shit and trolling the studios like Freddie Got Fingered. The exception is FGF wasn't an established beloved franchised that got shit on as collateral damage.
Not a disappointment at all if you didn't watch it because you don't watch any current year Hollywood products because you don't have any faith in Hollywood anymore.
You've been living in a dream world.
Oh god what a horrible use of the Merovingian. Oh jesus god that was bad.
Easy on the anti-semitism, Bugs!
I tried watching it. I didn't get more than a few minutes in. It's one of the most boring movies ever made.
It was better than the first one tbqhwu
The only good thing about it was seeying my eternal crush, milf Trinity.
I mean, I guess she's frickable, yeah.
never bothered watching it. despite loving the series and having several copies of all the movies i couldn't care less now
It's very good actually, taking the piss out of themselves and making the ultimate deconstruction film. Yous were expecting something like The Matrix and you were wrong.
i really didn't know what to expect really
i like the sequels possibly more than the first movie
still i don't see deconstruction here
i'm still puzzled
>if you were expecting a movie called The Matrix to be like The Matrix, you were wrong
>ultimate deconstruction film
Tell me you've never seen Evangelion: 3.0+1.0 Thrice Upon a Time without actually saying so. Some of you metamodernism babbies would never cut it at my gym. Get your Brecht on and I'll spot you.
similar to twin peaks: the return, matrix 4 was an exercise in intentionally destroying your own mythology so thoroughly that it wakes you up out of passive goyslop consumption, ie escaping the matrix. it’s masterful, really
Twin Peaks: The Return was better than the original show and movie. More ambitious at least
>I need other people to tell me how to think
It's called having a discussion dumbass. It's why forums exist. So people can talk about things.
Where the frick do these morons come from?
>you mean to tell me there's a board on Cinemaphile called television and film where people talk about television and film?
mind blown
It's easier to sum it up with one picture.
perfect
It was cringe
Do you even Brechtian Alienate bro?
lol...I'd have to watch it to say. Which will never fricking happen.
It was worse than I had ever imagined it could be. It's barely even a movie. Fanfiction tier.
The Matrix is about gunplay, martial arts, and surface level philosophy. The 4th had none of this.
it wasnt a disappointment because i naturally assume it was going to be terrible
The first Matrix only seemed good because it ripped off anime which was mostly unheard of in the West at the time. None of these movies are good. There, I said it.
I honestly forgot it existed. Thanks for reminding me, butthole.
ur welcome homosexual
reminder that this scene is from what was considered the WORST matrix movie before 4 came out
reloaded had kino fight scenes
revolutions was just boring slop
man i love the first fight when neo just trashes the agents. too bad it doesnt last very long
>reminder that this scene is from what was considered the WORST matrix movie before 4 came out
yeah, it's a cool 22 seconds in a much-too-long chase sequence
the chase in To Live and Die in LA is a little over half the length, the pace is excellent, and the ending is very satisfying.
I don't even understand what the trannies were trying to accomplish. WB is STILL going to make another legit matrix movie that will at least be better than resurrections. There's no stopping it. Matrix is a pop culture icon it would be like trying to stop batman movies from being made. Dumb troons.
i mean, compared to 2? I'd say better, even if it was too self aware and a parody.
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