Just marathoned An American crime (2007), a movie based on the real torture/murder of Sylvia Likens. I thought it was okay but imo they humanised the b***h behind it, Gertrude Baniszewski, too much. Also they toned down the subject matter far too much, it seemed like a made for TV movie. It should have been way darker. Not saying they need to graphically show everything but the execution was meh, like they were going for a PG-13 rating even though it got an R. For a film about content as horrific as this the audience should at least be horrified while watching it otherwise what's the point? It's like the girl's ordeal was brushed aside for the sake of the viewers, which ironically is why Sylvia was ignored irl while being tortured as neighbours didn't want to exit their comfort zone and get involved. Same reason all the perps got light sentences, some not at all, it's like society just wants to forget it happened rather than take responsibility for what happened. Sylvia's death scene was done really well though, how she has an outer body experience of escaping only to see herself dead almost made me cry.
Anyway what did you think about it? What are some other movies based on irl murderers/serial killers?
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Americans aren't humans... They have have no empathy
That's not true. I have empathy for your mother.
Not as bad as China
If you were there you'd be the worst.
Why would you care about some random kid that isn't even yours?
Oh man you should see ching chong China.
I could have saved her
We all could have saved her, the problem is everybody was operating on 5 brain cells in the 1960s, they didn't know up from down
>everybody was operating on 5 brain cells in the 1960s, they didn't know up from down
The decade that we went to the fricking moon?
You see anon we used to have lead paint and thats the reason Black folk commit so much crime. Didn't you read freakonomics?
You can’t even save yourself b***h
>marathoned
I hate ESLs so fricking much
maybe u ought to go back then
Matthew Bright's Ted Bundy is basically a proto-House That Jack Built and is very good and funny.
>After eight hours of deliberation, the jury found Gertrude Baniszewski guilty of first-degree murder. She was sentenced to life imprisonment but was released on parole in 1985. Paula was found guilty of second-degree murder and was released in 1972; Hobbs, Hubbard, and John were found guilty of manslaughter and served less than two years in the Indiana Reformatory before being granted parole on February 27, 1968.
How do you get such lenient punishments for something so sadistic? Capital punishment and if not, then a full life term with no parole.
Because the people running the legal system are the kinds of people who commit these very crimes.
Because punishment must come from a true authority, and with the loss 9f God and patriarchy our civilisation has no true authority. Therefore punishment has been rewritten as therapy and correction while the people in high society become ever more corrupt and worthy of severe punishment.
But you get 20 to 30 years for not paying all your taxes.
When will the Japanese version come out? Will it be an anime?
Japanese people (AKA the Yakuza) are too busy trying to instate in the minds of everyone that Japan is a safe country where there are no murders, robberies and there are no poor people. Weebs already believe anime troupes are real.
>person brutally tortured
>...
>Japanese schoolgirl prostitute brutally tortured
>NOOOOOOOO IM LITERALLY GONNA CRY RIGHT NOW POOR ANGEL 🙁 GOD DOESNT EXIST
She deserved it.
brutally tortured
>>...
schoolgirl prostitute brutally tortured
IM LITERALLY GONNA CRY RIGHT NOW POOR ANGEL 🙁 GOD DOESNT EXIST
where did you get any of that from lol. the jap girl pic only got a single reply before you sperged out and it was unrelated to your greentextism. you okay anon?
brutally tortured
>>...
schoolgirl prostitute brutally tortured
THE JAPANESE ARE LITERALLY SUBHUMAN THEY ARE SUCH MONSTERS, YOU WILL NEVER SEE ANYTHING LIKE THAT IN AMERICA
None of them deserve that torture. Though I do agree that weebs are pieces of shit that care more what happens to a jap girl than if a girl in their neightbourhood was killed.
they literally pray to some dumb prostitute who got tortured 30 years ago because she was some japanese schoolgirl. People die in brutal ways everyday but its always the prostitutes in OPs pic and Junko Furuta that get brought up and make people cry and question why God would let those two die like that. Its pathetic.
>prostitutes
ez on that edge /b/ro
Imagine being god sitting on your cloud and just watching all of this unfold and being like "lol I could stop this but I won't"
Imagine thinking God, who created everything that ever existed, has the same emotions as a human being.
That is the stupidest argument against God. Have you fedoragays ever considered that projecting human emotions onto an immortal deity who exists outside the concept of time and created everything to have ever existed is stupid beyond description?
Should we humans feel all of the same things an ant feels?
>Imagine thinking God, who created everything that ever existed, has the same emotions as a human being.
So what he's a sociopath? I thought he was supposed to love us.
If he does exist he could just damn you to Hell because you wore a brand of jeans he didn't like. It's a moronic concept that only exists as a vague guide of morality and ethics.
True heaven is peace within oneself, and some people get that by watching people get decapitated.
You thought wrong. You can't comprehend God. "Sociopath"... frick me, show a little humility here, you aren't Streisand in the Prince of Tides and got isn't lying on your leather couch, homosexual
Answer me this: Why would (You) be able to understand a being who exists outside of time and created everyrhing there is, everything known and unknown, to you and everyone else? Why and why you of all people.
Athiest gays are all the same, they mistake tjeir 105IQ and unjustified sense of virtue for actual intelligence. Good thing athiests are evolutionarily maladapted and usually fail to reproduce.
>a being who exists outside of time and created everyrhing there is, everything known and unknown, to you and everyone else
You're making a lot of assumptions with all this. You know just as little as I or anyone else does.
Typical coward fedoragay, you have no guts, you have no arguments, all you have is snark. Very, very feminine.
Unless you've died and met god then came back to life, you know nothing.
You're right I know nothing. I don't understand God. I am but a man, I can understand God as much as an ant can understand me.
>you have no arguments, all you have is snark. Very, very feminine.
literally what you just did lol. you got btfo'd anon dwi
>Why would (You) be able to understand a being who possesses all of the following qualities which are easily comprehensible and communicable in my below average third-worlder english
it's a mystery
>being able to articulate a beings deeds is the same thing as being able to comprehend that beings intelligence, morality, thought process etc.
So you think a five year old saying "My daddy builds houses" is the same as him understanding architecture? You need to learn humility, you aren't smart, you're just another snarky fedoragay.
Why are you attacking me god created me to be this way and to snark you out, it's all part of his plan, you're attacking god's incomprehensible work here. You need to check yourself
>being able to articulate a beings deeds
Except that's not what religion's about. I know of no religion that's simply a descriptive endeavour with regards to God's deeds: it invariably involves normative judgements about that God's goodness, invoking quasi-mental terminology in support of that.
We aren't debating religion. I'm not claiming that this group or that are right about God.
This argument is about a fedoragay saying that God not sharing his emotional impulses is evidence God doesn't exist.
>We aren't debating religion. I'm not claiming that this group or that are right about God.
Forgive me, but this really sounds quite disingenuous. I have never encountered a nonaligned, purely philosophical theist use the phrase "fedoragay" (of course derived from New Atheism which is by an large an arena of Christian apologetics versus Atheist critiques) with such frequency or vitriol.
>This argument is about a fedoragay saying that God not sharing his emotional impulses is evidence God doesn't exist.
You know perfectly well that in our culture, the common understanding of God is a Christian one and that understanding presupposes goodness which is at the foundation of the problem of evil.
*use of
*by and large
Imagine believing in god lmao. Pic related, let me save you a minute buddy.
>Imagine thinking God, who created everything that ever existed, has the same emotions as a human being.
Is he not regularly described as having at least some emotions that are analogous to human emotions (love for instance)? Most people don't think of the more abstract God of the philosophers: they think of the God of Abraham who is described as having at least some analogy to human beings in the realm of the mental, or Christ who was himself divine and human.
>That is the stupidest argument against God.
On the contrary, it strikes (or at least ought to) to the heart of a good Christian more than any arid philosophical speculation about unmoved movers and the like. David Bentley Hart is a good example of a theologian who holds that the problem of evil (while not a knockdown argument against Christianity, obviously, as he's a theologian) is essentially the only game in town when it comes to opposition to Christianity.
>Should we humans feel all of the same things an ant feels?
No, but while there's certainly a qualitative leap with the emergence of language and culture, there is at least in theory a continuity based on a shared biological substrate (e.g. similarities in nervous system, sense organs, however tenuous).
>Is he not regularly described as having at least some emotions that are analogous to human emotions
Yes. In books written by men, to be read by men. Its one thing to try to understand or explain God through your own limited frame of reference its another to discount his existence because his emotions don't match your own.
>No, but while there's certainly a qualitative leap with the emergence of language and culture, there is at least in theory a continuity based on a shared biological substrate (e.g. similarities in nervous system, sense organs, however tenuous)
This would not apply to God who is not a biological life form like humans or ants.
>god is incomprehensible
>incomprehensible
>incapable of being comprehended
So how does anything written about him make any sense lol? Because to even dumb it down in human language you have to first previously understand it. The 5 year old says "my dad builds houses" because her dad, who does the actual technical planning or work of construction, understands the process and could summarise it for her in infantile language "ehhh i build houses". You can't write about god in the equivalent way in scripture without first comprehending him, it's implicit. "Dude human language is limited so I can only communicate so much but here's the gist".
>Yes. In books written by men, to be read by men.
Written by men with presumably some insight, some of whom apparently had direct, face-to-face encounters with God.
>This would not apply to God who is not a biological life form like humans or ants.
Not in the senses of nervous systems and sense organs, but there is of course the doctrine of Imago Dei.
the moron believes God sits on a cloud. imagine sitting on a moronic belief about God and then. not believing in God all because you're a moron
He did stop it though. She died and went to heaven, and they spent years with a guilty conscience and the threat of eternal hell over their heads.
>Saved her by killing her
That's some fricked up psycho serial killer logic right there.
>He did stop it though.
>You can't comprehend God.
Sounds a lot like comprehension of at least a limited degree.
>Answer me this: Why would (You) be able to understand a being who exists outside of time and created everyrhing there is, everything known and unknown, to you and everyone else? Why and why you of all people.
And why would you?
seems to have a point. I can't see how you can have your cake and eat it too with regards to divine incomprehensibility.
>I can't see how you can have your cake and eat it too with regards to divine incomprehensibility.
Because he believes in god and you don't therefore he understands things about god you do not and he is right.
The mythos of the christian god is that he gave men free will to do as they please; as a result he does not meddle in their affairs. Why are you so obsessed with religion, anyway?
Imagine being this foolish. You have to the brain you were blessed with you waste of food
Americans have a thing for glorifying sociopaths and killers. Even corporate psychos are given the empathic socool treatment.
>Also they toned down the subject matter far too much
This is the annoying thing about true crime. Everyone obviously reads and watches it because of the scraping the bottom of the barrel shock factor of learning about all the gory details. Complete shameless morbid curiosity. Yet everyone, especially women, at the same time when discussing it put on this morality facade where they're like "let's not discuss the details and make it about the killer, this is about the victim, let's be respectful to the victim and the victim's families ok :*~~". Like please, the only reason anyone cares about these stories is because of all the gruesome sadistic shocking things that were done, that people are capable of doing. Just depict the details and get off your high horse, people are only gonna google it and read about it extensively anyway, let's just all drop the holier than thou act.
get fricked christcuck homosexuals
I'm mad af that you dicks turned a potentially good death and dismemberment thread into a moronic bro what if God is on our side
Kill your fricking selves and make it painful
All God's plan
>It should have been way darker. Not saying they need to graphically show everything but the execution was meh, like they were going for a PG-13 rating even though it got an R. For a film about content as horrific as this the audience should at least be horrified while watching it otherwise what's the point? It's like the girl's ordeal was brushed aside for the sake of the viewers
There is another movie based on the incident called The Girl Next Door, based on the Ash Ketchum novel. That movie is much more graphic and horrifying. Check it out.
>Ash Ketchum
No way...
JACK Ketchum. The author. I read the book, the film is extremely similar. It's fairly compelling.
Ash's dad?
Sure, why not.
Definitely not watching in case I get a very shameful boner
>the Ash Ketchum novel.
*Jack Ketchum
Ash Ketchum didn't write a novel about a girl getting tortured raped and murdered.
I don't remember any of that. Guess I should rewatch it.
>it wasn't graphic and gruesome enough to get me off
ok weirdo
Heathens ITT really cant fathom the idea of God, you people really are lost. The end times are here, the delusion is worse than ever. These people cannot be saved, for they do not wish to be saved. Only you can come to God, and repent. But you will not listen, your heart will harden even worse than now. You are being deceived, tricked. Wake up NOW
>becomes a christcuck fedora thread
have a nice day. Talk about the case or the documentary.
God here. Not gonna lie my plan is pretty incomprehensible. If you want a sense of that incomprehensibility then try to wrap your mind around why I or anyone else would make Cinemaphile lmao.
You created Cinemaphile to harvest keks. Everyone knows this.
>Gertrude Baniszewski
Just by her name and face, you can tell she's evil
And here I was thinking that Polacks were simply too daft to be evil.
Yes, just look at this c**t, looks demonic. Looks like Zelda from the original Pet Sematary movie. The actress that played her in the movie was quite pretty and had a sympathetic face. This is what I was talking about in the OP.
>Catherine Ann Keener is an American actress. She has portrayed disgruntled and melancholic yet sympathetic women in independent films...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Keener
Damn. You might be onto something anon.
Forgot pic.
Yeah. From what I read about the irl case, she was jealous of how pretty and jubilant Sylvia was. That was her main motivation against her and it wasn't shown in the movie at all. She was relentlessly malicious to her once the ball really got rolling. There was none of this BPD shit like in the below video where she has moments of sympathy. It was pure spite and vindictiveness.
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In the summer of last year, a girl who appeared to be in middle school was trapped inside what looked like a motel. Adult men entered the room and raped her. The video was shared live. The viewers in the chatroom said things like, ‘This is how real grooming is done.’
– Kookmin Ilbo Reporters
Most of the victims seemed to be in middle school. The girls are barking like dogs. I saw the girls naked and lying on the floor of the men’s washroom with my own eyes. One of the most basic kind of video was them staring into the camera and jerking off.
– Kookmin Ilbo Reporters
There was a photo of the words “Baksa” and slave” carved into a body. He used it as a way to tell his viewers that those “slaves” belonged to him.
– Kookmin Ilbo Reporters
He told the naked girls to put their underwear on their head or pretend to have a seizure on the ground.
– Kookmin Ilbo Reporters
They made the girls put caterpillars in their genitals and even made them eat feces.
– Kookmin Ilbo Reporters