first, notice how narrow jacks face is
next, watch closely his every scene and notice how he is always panting or when he doesnt pant he is probably angry and yelling
Jack's redemption arc and evolution from vanillaest protagonist ever to interesting character is one of the greatest things to have ever happened in fiction.
what "character?" in the last 2 seasons he just does random things because the script needs them to happen, there's no "arc." let's blow everything up with a nuke lol
>trust the experts!
He was good at doing surgery and that's it. Not to get political, but after covid at least you should know that having expertise in some field doesn't mean you can't be a hapless idiot in many other things that matter in life, even to the point where you counteract the benefit of your own expertise.
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spine surgeons have to have insane nerves and have to stay absolutely calm under enormous pressure for hours.
but yeah its just like a normal job lol.
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Jack doesn't stay calm for a single episode dude. What show were you even watching?
He had a short fuse and was constantly screaming. When not screaming he was a sarcastic c**t. He also assaulted women multiple times in his flashbacks. I can't believe anyone would prefer him to the Chad Sawyer.
He was deserted on an island and Locke kept fricking up the escape plans. Jack was also the only doctor and the main leader of the group. He had the most responsibilities. It makes sense that he was always angry and stressed
team sawyer all the way. even in the earliest episodes, like the thing with mercy killing the us marshall, sawyer comes off as having genuine emotions (particularly when he fricks up) whereas jack is just an autist sniffing his own farts and acting superior. i have no idea why they kept pushing him as the protag instead of someone with a real emotional range like sawyer or even charile.
everything happens the way it happens because an inscrutable magic guy wanted it to happen that way for unknown reasons. also known as raised by wolves 0.5
>for hundreds of years Jacob kept bringing people to the island where most of them, mostly violent deaths, and he's supposed to be the guy >this madman only stopped after Jack took his role after, i'll say it again, hundreds maybe thousands of years of death and carnage.
I thought the pilot was fantastic, but I steadily lost (heh) interest as the season progressed and iirc dropped it after the preggo returns. am I missing out terribly?
not really. it just becomes stupider as it goes on. there's some cool stuff in season 2 but it's packed with so much fluff that unless you really adore the characters and watching them interact it's not worth the time.
Stop now. Focus on science.
They were writing the story as they went along, so nothing means anything…until it does. There is some great acting, and the characters are lively, but it is ultimately just hollow. JJAbrams is a hack of the highest order. A “mystery box” is like a present with really pretty wrapping paper and absolutely nothing inside. His every work is exactly this and Lost is no exception. Pretty and empty.
to jj's credit i'm pretty sure he fricked off right after the pilot to make mission impossible 3 and had next to nothing to do with where the show went after that. but it's totally in his style that he said "there should be a mysterious hatch" and then fricked off.
I’m rewatching right now and I’m surprised that it’s already losing steam. Even the season 1 finale was a bit disappointing. There’s some cool stuff, but also TONS of filler.
Nothing else lives up to Ethan wasn’t on the plane
>Even the season 1 finale was a bit disappointing.
it's hilarious that they still didn't know what would be in the hatch by the end of the season so they had to cut to credits the moment they look inside so the showrunners would have a few months to figure out what the point of the show even was
there were hbo shows airing at the same time that were much better paced with their 10-12 hour seasons. it's a network show that has to deliver 24 hours per year and they stretch it out like crazy.
It's pretty much soap opera in that all characters have these dramatic lives that are being told in parallel. But except for a few moments it's not cheesy enough to repulse all the people who would never watch soap operas.
The show needed to be streamlined. It was as good as it could be on a network like ABC. It needed a smaller cast, less episodes, and each episodes needed to be an hour long. 18 minutes of commercial breaks every episode was exhausting
first 3 seasons are really good, but after that it gets confusing, also they are piling too much new stuff on the already existing mystery.
i guess if youre into the characters its still ok to keep watching but i stopped at season 4.
It has a couple of seasons worth of skippable trash and repeating plot but it's still great. Last time I rewatched, I just skipped those episodes.
Still worth the watch.
1 great season
rest is pretty much trash, especially once you realize that they had absolutely no plan and just did things to have mysteries or had cliffhangers every episode just to have cliffhangers without ever having the intention to actually follow up on anything
Locke killing Naomi felt out of character. This was a guy who didn’t even want to kill his piece of shit father to become one of the Others even though he had every reason to.
Anyone find it weird how Jack was skilled with a gun? No one even questions him when they’re going to hunt Ethan in s1. It makes sense for the other characters to be good with firearms >Jin was a violent repo man >Sawyer and Kate were criminals >Locke was a hunter >Sayid was a soldier
Jack on the other hand was a well off suburban rich kid from California and a surgeon
>Charlie gives up heroin >suffers from withdrawals for one episode >symptoms disappear for the rest of the season >Jack is a pill junkie and alcoholic >suddenly becomes clean when it’s time to go to the island >never suffers from withdrawal symptoms
Lazy writing, they actually could’ve done something interesting with Jack’s drug issues but nope
But doesn't it feel unsettling that these algorithms create feedback loops like this?
>Go to youtube to waste time >Oh, I like Lost, I'll watch this >Go to social media >Oh, a post about LOST, I just saw something about that and it's fresh in my head >Hmm, these comments feel familiar, somehow
I’m on season 2 now. >Charlie nearly dies repeatedly trying to protect Claire and her stupid baby >is helping her raise it just because >gets slightly annoyed when she does something stupid and tells her not to do it again, doesn’t raise his voice at all >UHHH, I DON’T REMEMBER MARRYING HIM
>build up mystery of the season >build up hype, build up hype, build up hype, build up hype >mega mystery is later exposed as a wet fart without any significance at all. nothing mattered
rinse and repeat for every season
for years, fans kept speculating that the last episode was going to have a big reveal that all of them(or at least Jack) were dead. (and/or)that this was just the limbo they had to go through.they also said if this were to be the case, they would be extremely disappointed. the producers kept saying throughout the series, don’t worry that’s not going to be the way it ends.
In the script it kept saying over and over again that Locke was creepy and weirded Kate out. Don't what the frick that was about, Terry o Quinn's John Locke was the definition of delightful.
Something like 60% of season 3 and 4 is filler or dumb. Remember when they ran out of flashbacks for Kate so they gave her a shotgun wedding with a cop that she runs away from?
me, durning to ya
2 season of kino then you'll likely stop watching it
>2 season of kino then you'll likely stop watching it
I also did this then watched clips of the rest what a shitshow
watch all seasons and all episodes.
Enjoy killing time and then finally killing yourself.
dragging your mkv's to the trash
first, notice how narrow jacks face is
next, watch closely his every scene and notice how he is always panting or when he doesnt pant he is probably angry and yelling
Jack is massive c**t. Genuinely despise his character.
Jack's redemption arc and evolution from vanillaest protagonist ever to interesting character is one of the greatest things to have ever happened in fiction.
>*cries*
what "character?" in the last 2 seasons he just does random things because the script needs them to happen, there's no "arc." let's blow everything up with a nuke lol
how was he a c**t?
he was always trying to do the right thing.
Often he didn't know what the right thing was and just expected others to follow him because he made a few good decisions in the past.
yeah and he also was a spine surgeon, so he was already more cut out for shit like that then everybody else on the island.
>trust the experts!
He was good at doing surgery and that's it. Not to get political, but after covid at least you should know that having expertise in some field doesn't mean you can't be a hapless idiot in many other things that matter in life, even to the point where you counteract the benefit of your own expertise.
spine surgeons have to have insane nerves and have to stay absolutely calm under enormous pressure for hours.
but yeah its just like a normal job lol.
Jack doesn't stay calm for a single episode dude. What show were you even watching?
He had a short fuse and was constantly screaming. When not screaming he was a sarcastic c**t. He also assaulted women multiple times in his flashbacks. I can't believe anyone would prefer him to the Chad Sawyer.
sawyer was literally a snake in human form and his voice alone made you check for your wallet.
i can get why he wasnt that trusted.
He was deserted on an island and Locke kept fricking up the escape plans. Jack was also the only doctor and the main leader of the group. He had the most responsibilities. It makes sense that he was always angry and stressed
That's no fun without Ginger and Mary Ann.
Seems like a hysterical b***h that should be shut up with a shovel. That's pretty much the best cure for hysteria and hysterical antics.
Agreed, same with Jesse in Breaking Bad. I don't understand why these grating overemotional pussies are so appealing to Americans.
Agreed with Jesse, but the show had to go on. If they killed him off early then there wouldn't be as many episodes or as much money or spinoffs.
team sawyer all the way. even in the earliest episodes, like the thing with mercy killing the us marshall, sawyer comes off as having genuine emotions (particularly when he fricks up) whereas jack is just an autist sniffing his own farts and acting superior. i have no idea why they kept pushing him as the protag instead of someone with a real emotional range like sawyer or even charile.
>whereas jack is just an autist sniffing his own farts
This is why i still come to Lost threads. Frick Jack.
Also notice how he turns away from people with tears in his eyes everytime he is told something disconcerting.
Kino for 2 seasons. After that, drop it and pretend it got cancelled.
everything happens the way it happens because an inscrutable magic guy wanted it to happen that way for unknown reasons. also known as raised by wolves 0.5
>for hundreds of years Jacob kept bringing people to the island where most of them, mostly violent deaths, and he's supposed to be the guy
>this madman only stopped after Jack took his role after, i'll say it again, hundreds maybe thousands of years of death and carnage.
I thought the pilot was fantastic, but I steadily lost (heh) interest as the season progressed and iirc dropped it after the preggo returns. am I missing out terribly?
not really. it just becomes stupider as it goes on. there's some cool stuff in season 2 but it's packed with so much fluff that unless you really adore the characters and watching them interact it's not worth the time.
Why did he do it
Stop now. Focus on science.
They were writing the story as they went along, so nothing means anything…until it does. There is some great acting, and the characters are lively, but it is ultimately just hollow. JJAbrams is a hack of the highest order. A “mystery box” is like a present with really pretty wrapping paper and absolutely nothing inside. His every work is exactly this and Lost is no exception. Pretty and empty.
I regret having watched it.
to jj's credit i'm pretty sure he fricked off right after the pilot to make mission impossible 3 and had next to nothing to do with where the show went after that. but it's totally in his style that he said "there should be a mysterious hatch" and then fricked off.
The soundtrack is GOAT anon, enjoy the ride and don't spoil yourself. Some great character moments and arcs across the seasons.
why is there an orange in his mouth
Take a drink every time someone says "why are you telling me this"?
Kinoest of kinos, Anon
There has been nothing like Lost before, there never will be again.
Hello yourself
I’m rewatching right now and I’m surprised that it’s already losing steam. Even the season 1 finale was a bit disappointing. There’s some cool stuff, but also TONS of filler.
Nothing else lives up to Ethan wasn’t on the plane
>Even the season 1 finale was a bit disappointing.
it's hilarious that they still didn't know what would be in the hatch by the end of the season so they had to cut to credits the moment they look inside so the showrunners would have a few months to figure out what the point of the show even was
Even if they knew no TV storyteller would not go with a cliffhanger at that moment.
yeah but they would have shown SOMETHING for people to speculate about instead of literally a cut to black, zero new information
Like what? The way they introduced Desmond at the beginning of season 2, then overlaying his routine with the explosion was pretty good.
What six season show doesn't have tons of filler
there were hbo shows airing at the same time that were much better paced with their 10-12 hour seasons. it's a network show that has to deliver 24 hours per year and they stretch it out like crazy.
lost was nothing but filler. the only other shows like that are sitcoms and soap operas.
It's pretty much soap opera in that all characters have these dramatic lives that are being told in parallel. But except for a few moments it's not cheesy enough to repulse all the people who would never watch soap operas.
I meant specifically the season 1 finale. It didn’t have to be a 3-parter.
The show needed to be streamlined. It was as good as it could be on a network like ABC. It needed a smaller cast, less episodes, and each episodes needed to be an hour long. 18 minutes of commercial breaks every episode was exhausting
That gay is no scary godfather
remember how part of the hype surrounding lost is they were "keeping the scripts so secret that the cast didn't see them till the day of filming?"
Wasn't that really from Dallas, the who shot JR cliffhanger?
first 3 seasons are really good, but after that it gets confusing, also they are piling too much new stuff on the already existing mystery.
i guess if youre into the characters its still ok to keep watching but i stopped at season 4.
you may like it, you may not, but one thing is for certain - you're in for a ride
It has a couple of seasons worth of skippable trash and repeating plot but it's still great. Last time I rewatched, I just skipped those episodes.
Still worth the watch.
I enjoyed the whole show even though I know it stopped making sense after season 2.
1 great season
rest is pretty much trash, especially once you realize that they had absolutely no plan and just did things to have mysteries or had cliffhangers every episode just to have cliffhangers without ever having the intention to actually follow up on anything
WAAAAAAALT!
Matthew Fox was a bad actor, he was always making moronic faces in the show
>Have you seen my son WALT!
>Ah you are talking about the little niglet ? Yeah we spiced him, cooked him and ate him, wasn't very filling.
Big cast with maybe 3 good characters
Desmond
Early Locke
Mr Eko
Faraday too
Locke killing Naomi felt out of character. This was a guy who didn’t even want to kill his piece of shit father to become one of the Others even though he had every reason to.
He was obsessed with staying on the island, also he got an ego boost from being told he's special.
Character development.
I like Predator with Arnold, frick that character development, we can do that once it matters... Let's get on with the show and entertain folk...
Locke pretty much carries the entire show, he’s legitimately a fantastic character.
Anyone find it weird how Jack was skilled with a gun? No one even questions him when they’re going to hunt Ethan in s1. It makes sense for the other characters to be good with firearms
>Jin was a violent repo man
>Sawyer and Kate were criminals
>Locke was a hunter
>Sayid was a soldier
Jack on the other hand was a well off suburban rich kid from California and a surgeon
Dr. Strange Jackmehoff?
You're right, they should have given it to one of the black characters instead (racial shooting skill boost).
Did he actually use it?
He had one because he’s the leader and he decided he’d have one. Doesn’t mean he’s skilled.
What does John say in the show which the Durn to ya thing is based on? "The rest of you will know when..." something
"What's in the bowl, b***h?"
it was at least worth a try
>Charlie gives up heroin
>suffers from withdrawals for one episode
>symptoms disappear for the rest of the season
>Jack is a pill junkie and alcoholic
>suddenly becomes clean when it’s time to go to the island
>never suffers from withdrawal symptoms
Lazy writing, they actually could’ve done something interesting with Jack’s drug issues but nope
Sometimes I feel scared that we all just watched the same youtube video.
thats literally how algorithms work
But doesn't it feel unsettling that these algorithms create feedback loops like this?
>Go to youtube to waste time
>Oh, I like Lost, I'll watch this
>Go to social media
>Oh, a post about LOST, I just saw something about that and it's fresh in my head
>Hmm, these comments feel familiar, somehow
It's very unsettling. Unfortunately part and parcel of the contemporary internet. The 90s/00s organic net is never coming back.
I’m on season 2 now.
>Charlie nearly dies repeatedly trying to protect Claire and her stupid baby
>is helping her raise it just because
>gets slightly annoyed when she does something stupid and tells her not to do it again, doesn’t raise his voice at all
>UHHH, I DON’T REMEMBER MARRYING HIM
C’mon, man.
what the cuck deserved
also had the most pointless death
Didn’t he almost drown her baby in that episode where was having religious nightmares?
>build up mystery of the season
>build up hype, build up hype, build up hype, build up hype
>mega mystery is later exposed as a wet fart without any significance at all. nothing mattered
rinse and repeat for every season
Pretty great show for season 1-2
A somewhat interesting one for s3-s4
letdown - s5
what the frick were they thinking - s6
for years, fans kept speculating that the last episode was going to have a big reveal that all of them(or at least Jack) were dead. (and/or)that this was just the limbo they had to go through.they also said if this were to be the case, they would be extremely disappointed. the producers kept saying throughout the series, don’t worry that’s not going to be the way it ends.
They weren't dead all the time though, it was the bomb that killed them not the plane crash.
Dentist.
Why is Keno with a tennis ball in his mouth?
In the script it kept saying over and over again that Locke was creepy and weirded Kate out. Don't what the frick that was about, Terry o Quinn's John Locke was the definition of delightful.
Watch Buffy, it's something you might comprehend.
Whether you find Locke creepy is really a question of emotional relatability and not intellect.
>Watch Buffy
You morons usually go with watch NCIS.
they probably cast o'quinn because of stepfather. they wanted serial killer vibes, but it's not how he plays him at all.
Locke did have an intense stare and had weird ideas. Plus, Kate grew up with an abusive step dad. She’s probably mistrusting of any older man
I miss Lost memes
like Oz
first season is kino, second is great
then it gets really fricking goofy and uneven in quality
Season 2>Season 1>Season 3>Season 5>Season 4>Season 6
brotha
Locke, Jack and Ben flashbacks are worth watching. The rest can be skipped.
Tesst
Something like 60% of season 3 and 4 is filler or dumb. Remember when they ran out of flashbacks for Kate so they gave her a shotgun wedding with a cop that she runs away from?
I watched 2 seasons of this then decided 24 episodes a season was way too fricking much. Frick how do people watch that much shit
Show is magic. There's nothing on television like it. I wish I could watch it for the first time again.