Anyone got recommendations on good period piece tv series or movies? Just finished the 1st season of The Terror. I saw the trailer for season 2, didn't look as interesting.
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Kino Period Pieces
Anyone got recommendations on good period piece tv series or movies? Just finished the 1st season of The Terror. I saw the trailer for season 2, didn't look as interesting.
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The Leopard
Barry Lyndon
What did you guys think of The Terror season 1?
Unironically gave me nightmares. It was amazing.
which parts gave you nightmares?
Hickey.
>oh no Mr Hickey don't put my dick in your mouth or eat my ass nooo
Yeah I thought the moment when he stabbed his superior officer was really well done, took me off guard, and all the more unsettling because he's completely stripped off in the arctic cold. Especially after that brief moment if hope when they've run into the Inuit a few moments before.
Also Jopson's death; even though I agree with the anon who said it peaked before its last episode, I did think that the sense of the walls closing in as you approached the end was really great, as their options shrink and it becomes clearer and clearer that none of them are going to get back home. Especially in such barren, open environments, I think the sense of claustrophobia was really well-crafted.
When it’s at its best it’s really great. I’m not a fan of the polar bear demon. It doesn’t contribute enough to the story to warrant its inclusion.
I love the show but I gotta agree, in retrospect the bear just seems unnecessary, they could have still gone with the spooky atmosphere (which they did fine enough in the first ep) but without the bear
would be a legit 10/10 perfect show if they never showed the monster. even if it's in the book I think they should have changed it. it didn't work at all for me. still some of the best tv I have ever seen. all the actors are amazing too
the monster is fine, just don't make it a focus point
just always leave it as something that "could" always frick you up, let the men think it's something grander than just a normal polar bear but let it be a normal bear that just kills a couple people
very kino trope
Shame it's based on some horror but I'll take what I can get. The actual historical aspects were very good but they end too son.
i am a big fan of isolation and arctic and period pieces
shot beautifully great performances all around, great villain
i liked it more than the book
it was complete shit. the mabearpig was gay and whole thing didnt make sense. only good think was naming goldner
Solid watch, it peaks before the last episode
Chernobyl happened to air only a week after I finished it and I have yet to find kino as consistent as that time
One of the best depictions of absolute bleak hopelessness I have ever seen
better than the terror
one of the best I ever seen, only topped by Wolf Hall, if you havent seen it, do yourself a favor and watch it.
Black Sails is good as well, as are The Borgias (the version with Jeremy Irons). Im currently watching Versailles, if you have any interest in the french reign of the sun king, I can recommend that as well.
I'm interested in most history. Unless it's Canadian.
based wolf hall appreciator
obligatory companion piece
Anon, we have similar tastes. Wolf Hall is kino of the highest degree, and it's a crime that there was only one season. Still listen to the soundtrack to this day.
The Terror for women and zoomers
the post for plebs
Taboo
Mmhmmm
>douchebag ends up being a total bro
I love this tripe
Best trope.
Absolute kino
Was he actually a douchebag? Francis just said he was tired of listening to his stupid story in China. Sure, he was a good boy and did everything John said but that's how shit worked.
If anything at all, it's Francis who started as the douchebag (albeit being correct about how things should be done) being shitfaced the whole time and ended up as the bro.
>Was he actually a douchebag?
There’s really only one time when he’s a prick - in ep1 when the three captains confer over whether or not to go for broke. He demeans Crozier for being dramatic. Other than that he’s reasonable throughout the show.
Yeah that's what I figured. It just felt strange to see people call him a douchebag when he really wasn't.
I think the thing that I liked the most about The Terror was how fricking noble so many of those people were. How they fricking persevered through the worst shit ever while having lead poisoning. I cannot imagine dragging sleds like that like pack animals. I've done some gruelling hiking before but pulling a 1 ton sled across dirt like what the frick. These are some hard men.
It's not like that anymore in the oil fields. Everyone fricking hates everyone and everyone doesn't want to do the work. And there's so much fricking b***hing. They b***h about any and everything: the food, the weather, the job, the other guy, having to sign paperwork, the safety shit that prevents you from dying - it's all pussy shit to complain about. I don't doubt these sailors b***h about all manner of things too but they didn't b***h about petty shit that makes you look like a pussy.
History of British polar expeditions is 80% man-hauling. More often than not it was by design but of course Franklin's expedition was supposed to be purely naval with no shore party. Which was new to Franklin his previous expeditions were mostly on land.
In his defense, (and the other command staff that didn’t go along with Crozier). Walking the 800 miles is a massively dramatic escalation, it’s incredibly dangerous, much more dangerous as just waiting a winter or two. They all viewed the plan to walk it out as an absolute last resort. They were actually somewhat vindicated by the 8 man advanced party being massacred.
Also, the show pretty accurately portrayed the relationship between command staff(before the insanity begins).
>In his defense, (and the other command staff that didn’t go along with Crozier). Walking the 800 miles is a massively dramatic escalation
That’s not what Crozier was proposing at that point. He was arguing for them to shelter in a harbour off King William Island during winter instead of joining the pack.
Oh yeah that would have been much more rational.
He was also advocating abandoning Erebus, which would have resulted in Sir Jon being court martialed. Pretty obvious why that wasn't a popular choice.
I too enjoy the theme of two characters who might not get along learn that they have bigger problems at hand, and not only put aside their differences but really lose the animosity entirely from the sheer scale of the situation.
Tye second season is trash yeah.
The Knick
I always thought Crozier had an extremely weird arc, not that it’s a bad thing
>early on he’s the voice of reason
>then he becomes the useless, incompetent drunk
>finally the reluctant leader
I think it makes sense conceptualized over the course of multiple years
>voice of reason
>nobody listens and the ships get stuck in ice for two winters
>miserable drunk by the end of the winters because living in those conditions for years blows dogs
>realizes the severity of their situation and sobers up when its time to lead his men to safety
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How is The North Water compared to this?
quality is similar but opinions vary depending on personal preferences, do you like men being bros with magic cgi bear or homosexual homini lupus with regular-ass cgi bear
also final episodes suck in both
I liked Terror from start to finish and I could overlook the CGI magic bear and appreciate the entire ride. I take that as an assumption that I will enjoy North Water.
North Water is a real gritty men can be evil sort of story and it's grounded in reality. It also has better over all production value than Terror S1. Well worth a watch.
S2 of the Terror is ok at best and easily 3+ eps or more too long. Only worth a watch if the setting sound interesting.
HOLY KINO
israeli garbage
Never seen it but always wanted to, is it israelited?
A little bit, but not anywhere near as much as things are now.
yes they say the N-word all the time and also native americans are referred to as "dirt worshipers"
>put in homosexual guy
>he is an actual interesting character and great villain
the frick this is illegal
>they do it again in The North Water
He's not a homo
Does he take or deal it up the bum?
I don't think Mr. Hickey did any catching, either
He dealt it though.
Just realizing this now, a lot of the shit that happened to Hickey was a result of him having no clue how the navy worked.
He never really figured it out either.
because he said so and he's such a reliable source?
He realised they were fricked. Trying to kill everyone quickly through smoke inhalation was an act of kindness.
death by fire is one of the worst ways to go, if you really believe it's doomed, just tell everyone then have a nice day
They wouldn’t have died by fire. They were standing on ice. The smoke in the enclosed space is why they died.
Collins comments on how tasty the burning people smelled, though
what the frick was this moron's problem
He was on fire
he was over heated
He was a hot head.
Why did that last officer had gold chains on his face upon his death?
Some sort of actual account of a corpse that was located, the best guess was that it was an old-school "cure" for lead poisoning to leech the lead out of the body
I thought they all just went insane and thought, "lol chains on face funny"
Sailors believed (falsely) that the metals in israeliteellery leeches illness away from the body like scurvy. Or in this case, lead poisoning.
kino
What I fail to understand is why Crozier didn't want to go back to England when the two guys came looking for any survivors.
he just didn't give a frick anymore. He had severe ptsd and trauma and that was his way of coping
Pottery
Because his life was over. If he'd returned to England as a surviving captain with none of his crew or ship having survived, he'd be absolutely disgraced and probably court martialed, whether or not it was his own fault or not. His best bet would be to somehow reach the States and start a new life there under a new name.
He had nothing to go back to. It took going to the Arctic and the edge of the world to realise he was wasting his time with a woman that didn’t love him.
Quads of Truth
absolute chad coming through
I kept confusing him with the guy who got shot in the head trying to murder-suicide with Crozier.
go stare at the ice
The Knick
Babylon Berlin
Outlander has some kino, if you can get past some of the annoying womyn stuff
I thought the majority of it was annoying womyn stuff?
I feel like Im running dry, how are the Medici und Tudor shows? Tudors looks kinda ... glammy from the pictures, I mostly like the grittier stuff, any more recommendations?
They're decent and not glammy at all. Both are pretty brutal, especially the Tudors. I mean, neither is Rome in terms of quality but both are definitely worth the watch, imo.
This was outrageously good. This and Lincoln. When you know nothing of American history this show and movie makes you realize why these individuals are so revered in all history.
It's actually crazy how America could be founded by so many wise individuals. Like, the show portrays John Adams as a prick and he was an even bigger butthole in real life but it's still shocking how many brilliant people were assembled to kickstart the nation. They were just a fricking colony spread across an immense span of land.
Probably the best history documentaries of all time.
I'm not even from the US
i mean if we're talkin docs...
It's probably worth watching everything Ken Burns has done.
Ill give this a watch but it better not be some american patriotic jerkoff show
it's fairly sober. directed by a bong. here's a slice from episode 2
my only real criticism is the overuse of dutch angles
This entire series demonstrates the value of stage-acting to produce competent actors. Or in Paul Giamatti's case, grinding out dogshit background characters until people realized he really put his heart into a character that might have ten lines and started giving him bigger and better roles.
Tom Wilkinson and Stephen Dillane killed it so hard.
>uploaded 13 years ago
Jesus... that's 5% of the time since 1776 and it feels to me like the series just came out.
excellent
The Red Riding Trilogy, the greatest True Detective season that never was. And it's bleak as frick
Never seen it talked about on Cinemaphile but Versailles is kind of a hidden gem. They filmed on location in the castle too, so there's some really great kinography in there. Had totally forgotten about it until I started thinking about history kino
Im nearing the end of season 3, it is really good if you dont need an action scene every 5 minutes to keep you interested. The whole court life is such an absurd yet fascinating thing. Stellar performances as well, Phillipe somehow turned into my favourite character and I dont even remember when it happened some of the woman scenes do start to get grating at certain points, but they usually dont last too long ...
Phillipe has a very good arc, as I recall. I watched it when it came out, it was very addicting. And very beautifully shot. As for characters, Marchal is the one I remember the best, 4 years later.
Marchal is goddamn scary pretty much through the whole run of the show. Sometimes a bit moronic, especially when it comes to pursuing things literally alone or with some women, but a great character all in all.
Any history kinos too?
I've seen John Adam and Rome
How did these ships manage to provision for so many men. They were talking about waiting things out for a YEAR at a time. That's an immense amount of cans and sacks of flour. They were also storing the bodies.
Like, it felt like they were provisioned with an entire grocery store's inventory. Is that how it actually was?
They were leaving on wooden vessels for dangerous territory with no means of reliable communication or rescue in an emergency for an unknowable amount of time. No sane man would board a ship that wasnt supplied accordingly
I understand that it had to be provisioned properly, I just can't imagine how it's done. The caloric intake necessary to perform that much physical labour means each man consumes at least a can a day as well as a pound of flour.
That's a lot of goddamn food and they weren't catching fresh provisions from what it seemed. And they have to store additional timber for repairs and everything else you can imagine.
The Americans have every right to jerkoff about the founding of their nation. No country put down in writing rights and freedoms and actually practised those rights and freedoms. Sure, Russia put freedom of the press down in writing too, but they sure as frick don't practice it. Aristocratic France practised freedom of speech but it also got you thrown in jail.
In hindsight the British Parliamentary system is probably better than the American system but America was the first-mover on so much progressive shit it's actually difficult to believe it did it that way in sheer defiance to how the rest of the world was operating at the time.
>And they have to store additional timber for repairs and everything else you can imagine.
Youd have to pin down what kind of ship was used approximately, but I think a lot of indoor shots undersell how big the ships were. Id have to dig deeper into it than Id like right now, but with an efficient use of space I assume the load it would be able to bear, assuming it doesnt carry and kind of cargo for trade should be quite amazing
Hecla-class bomb vessel
372 1⁄94 tons
That's a lot of cargo space. I think, I don't know. Plus they would not have had their cannons.
Jesus, I missed The Terror but caught Chernobyl. I can't imagine how good it must have been to come off Terror and have Harris kill it again in Chernobyl. Cinemaphile stopped being shit all through Chernobyl.
There were some expeditions that lasted a decade.
>Småland, Sweden, mid-19th century. A farming family struggle with their rocky, unyielding land, and decide to embark on the arduous journey to new hope in America.
Peasant-kino
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These look good. They're on my list, thanks.
BOATS 2 was not as good as BOATS
Kino
Is downton abbey any good? Or is it made for women?
Its more of a woman show than The Crown
Soap opera tier. But fun to watch with other people.
there goes the neighborhood
don't watch season 2
Terror should have been a limited series, season 2 is just trying to ape the success of season 1
Turn: Washingtons Spies is kino, worth watching for pic related alone.
>im gonna gas every fricking revolutionary on this planet
is that Owen Harper
Literally me
John Adams was great
reminder that if you genuinely think that a regular ass polar bear would have been better than the ghost-bear than you are a literal moron. that fricking bear killed easily over two dozen men and was smarter, faster and stealthier than a navy SEAL. there is no possible way that a regular animal could have reeked havoc on the scale that the tuunbaq did, lead poisoning or not
or just use multiple polar bears Black person it didn't have to be magic