Do you know if people smoke in the novel? If not I very strongly agree. >Hey let's take this literal masterpiece and turn it into a glorified cigarette ad
Its been years since ive read it. Probably it did but also its something that should be left out. Its one thing to write such a thing but is entirely different for people to actually do it
You can't do it with a 16 year old Dolores, she has to be 12. So it can't realistically be done. Kubrick focused more on Charlotte, which was the only option really.
>she has to be 12.So it can't realistically be done
Jena Malone was 11/12 in Bastard Out of Carolina. And they had the fingering and the rape scene. But not the masturbation scenes
No I don't think so. Looking back it seems like Humbert is directly asked if he smokes and he ignores the smoker. Nabokov wasn't a big fan of smoking iirc, he 'objected to the post-coital cigarette as an artist' or something.
Watching this shit right now. it's so lifeless compared to Kubrick's one. It honestly feels like im watching a lifetime movie.
it lacks the satirical humor of kubrick's. I'm only 12 minutes in and i already want to turn it off.
Watching the Kubrick version everyone in here loves. 45 minutes in,
The acting is fucking trash ....
I'm not trolling or shit posting.
The mom is fucking awful. The guy is half asleep. The girl barely acts.
Holy shit is the acting on this fucking bad.....
At least the 90s version had better acting.
kubrick:
the mom acting: shit, loud, very very cringe. yells for everything. one note.
humbert, sleepwalking through the role. zero charisma. barely awake
e-boita: same shit, barely emotes. acts annoyed and not spoiled.
sorry no. the actors in the 90s version are more three dimensional. emote better. e-boita and humbert are WAY WAY better
the brilliance of kubricks is that it takes itself less seriously and is more of a comedy.
and the acting is the typical old hollywood acting you'd see in it's era.
Kubrick:
a comedy, full of double entendre and innuendo, sharp writing, brilliant cinematography.
does not try to make you empathize with humbert, just laughs at the absurdity of it.
lyne:
a drama, which tries to make you empathize with a pedo
Kubricks is more kino. you've just been filtered hard
The book is about many things. America and how it compares to Europe, solipsism, mass media, lust, etc. I would say the main thing about it is Humbert’s ego and how the whole book is just an insane testimony by a guy who sees himself as a genius for being attracted to things that are really mundane
You can't do it with a 16 year old Dolores, she has to be 12. So it can't realistically be done. Kubrick focused more on Charlotte, which was the only option really.
She doesn't have to be 12. honestly 14 is fine like in Kubricks.
Sue Lyon is also more alluring than dominique swan. Makes it easier to sympathize with humbert.
Lynes version has a girl who looks like she's 17 dressed like she's 9 years old. It looks retarded
nymphettes already start to lose their charm by then according to Humbert, it's really not the same. but I liked the focus on charlotte, she's a tragic character really.
Honestly would it really be so taboo to authentically adapt e-boita? Humbert doesn't even do much sexually in the book if I call recall. Half the time he just talks about how much he likes her feet.
you said that twice already and i truly honestly cant see how.
how ? costumes are great, sets look great, car looked great, actors looked good,
how ? seriously i cant see it
e-boita was Nabokov's magnificent tribute to literature. And the story only thrives reading it as a novel and you pretend you're reading the account of an imprisoned lunatic who is writing this grand novel trying to justify is morally abhorrent abduction and grooming of a young child and well you should read the fucking novel if you haven't already.
Neither Kubrick's film or the shitty 90s movie captures how Humbert Humbert is an elaborate parody of an Edgar Allen Poe narrator. How Humbert's flowery poetry on his e-boita is juxtaposed with the fact that he's a child molester talking lovingly of a smelly 12 year old brat. Or how Quilty is a doppelganger or Humbert, Peter Sellers was a once in a lifetime performer but his performance just didn't work in the movie. SPOILER below read the fucking book jesus christ it's easy as hell to pirate you have no excuse.
Reading the preface again after finishing the novel and realizing that Delores died in childbook felt like a punch in the gut. The most genius set up I've ever experienced in any work.
reading it now humbert seems absurdly horny. like he's getting off to just the scent of her unwashed hair. I'm not that smart tho and the prose is above my vocabulary.
That's the other important detail. The fact is you look at Sue Lyon (who is aged up to 16 in Kubrick's version) or Dominque Swain in this movie and the viewer really can't condemn Humbert Humbert as a monster for wanting to tap some teenaged poontang. It's morally wrong but it's not utterly vile.
In the novel e-boita is a literal child, if I remember correctly Humbert bribes her with Coca-Cola and cheap supermarket sunglasses. He's a total piece of shit. I think the funniest and most disturbing idealization Humbert has in the middle of the book is when he contemplates marrying and impregnating e-boita. He then tells the reader that his plan will be to then move on from fucking e-boita who would then be out of his sexual desirability and then begin molesting his theoretical daughter. Utterly hilarious how Nabokov writes it but it's the shit that Josef Fritzl did.
Anyway I would urge you to keep reading and keep your phone at hand to define/translate the words that Nobokov uses. It's what I did and 3 chapters in I really couldn't put the book down, as you should tell I'm not well read either but you will get acclimated with it. The wordplay and literary uses are just amazing in e-boita. Also feel free to look up the annotations that SparkNotes has for free, they'll point out amazing details you might miss.
the films don't make it as clear as the book does that Humbert is a monster. The films have lots of young & dumb female fans who think it's a story about forbidden love or something, and that being into older men makes them sophisticated.
Both of the films take themselves too seriously, I agree. I mean the whole structure of e-boita is that Humbert is a deranged megalomaniac who sets out to describe his infatuations with Dolores as if he's creating an artistic masterwork. The movies are too humorless. Nabokov always puts meta references in his works like how Dolores is partly inspired by Shirley Temple or all the academic parodies in Pale Fire
>bored on a train recently so see what books I have on my phone, e-boita is one of the only ones downloaded >open it up >it opens to the last page I was at, 45% through
If you know you know
For me it's Leon
They're both shit. There's smoking in both of them.
Fuck off with these bad movies
Nothing Kubrick has made has been shit.
Fear and Desire sucked donkey balls
>Nothing Kubrick has made has been shit.
>what is 2001
Do you know if people smoke in the novel? If not I very strongly agree.
>Hey let's take this literal masterpiece and turn it into a glorified cigarette ad
Its been years since ive read it. Probably it did but also its something that should be left out. Its one thing to write such a thing but is entirely different for people to actually do it
>she has to be 12.So it can't realistically be done
Jena Malone was 11/12 in Bastard Out of Carolina. And they had the fingering and the rape scene. But not the masturbation scenes
No I don't think so. Looking back it seems like Humbert is directly asked if he smokes and he ignores the smoker. Nabokov wasn't a big fan of smoking iirc, he 'objected to the post-coital cigarette as an artist' or something.
Is this your channel? How could you give Sign O' the Times a 2/10?
Watching this shit right now. it's so lifeless compared to Kubrick's one. It honestly feels like im watching a lifetime movie.
it lacks the satirical humor of kubrick's. I'm only 12 minutes in and i already want to turn it off.
> I'm only 12
isn't that what the movie is about
Watching the Kubrick version everyone in here loves. 45 minutes in,
The acting is fucking trash ....
I'm not trolling or shit posting.
The mom is fucking awful. The guy is half asleep. The girl barely acts.
Holy shit is the acting on this fucking bad.....
At least the 90s version had better acting.
you just like the sex scene in the 90s version. kubricks is way better.
kubrick:
the mom acting: shit, loud, very very cringe. yells for everything. one note.
humbert, sleepwalking through the role. zero charisma. barely awake
e-boita: same shit, barely emotes. acts annoyed and not spoiled.
sorry no. the actors in the 90s version are more three dimensional. emote better. e-boita and humbert are WAY WAY better
kubricks movie is fucking dull
ill give lynes another chance.
the brilliance of kubricks is that it takes itself less seriously and is more of a comedy.
and the acting is the typical old hollywood acting you'd see in it's era.
Kubrick:
a comedy, full of double entendre and innuendo, sharp writing, brilliant cinematography.
does not try to make you empathize with humbert, just laughs at the absurdity of it.
lyne:
a drama, which tries to make you empathize with a pedo
Kubricks is more kino. you've just been filtered hard
This. The Lyne version totally missed the point of the book. It’s just a mediocre drama. No wonder actual pedos (and women) like that version so much
Based. in your opinion what is the point of the book?
what is that
The book is about many things. America and how it compares to Europe, solipsism, mass media, lust, etc. I would say the main thing about it is Humbert’s ego and how the whole book is just an insane testimony by a guy who sees himself as a genius for being attracted to things that are really mundane
Nabokov missed the point.
She gets naked in this one though so that automatically makes it better
the only reason i think "people" (pedos) prefer Lyne's is that its more graphic.
She's an adult dude, non of the e-boita movies have been truly pedo
Sue Lyon was actually 14. so she was the closest thing. she felt more realistic than Swan playing a child.
>17-year-old Dominique Swain
>pedos
no one's falling for it, garden gnome
You can't do it with a 16 year old Dolores, she has to be 12. So it can't realistically be done. Kubrick focused more on Charlotte, which was the only option really.
She doesn't have to be 12. honestly 14 is fine like in Kubricks.
Sue Lyon is also more alluring than dominique swan. Makes it easier to sympathize with humbert.
Lynes version has a girl who looks like she's 17 dressed like she's 9 years old. It looks retarded
nymphettes already start to lose their charm by then according to Humbert, it's really not the same. but I liked the focus on charlotte, she's a tragic character really.
the lynes version acting is so bad. wow. and people actually like this movie.
Honestly would it really be so taboo to authentically adapt e-boita? Humbert doesn't even do much sexually in the book if I call recall. Half the time he just talks about how much he likes her feet.
realistically speaking, do it like Cuties
make the cast black, woke, make the characters muslim or something
I prefered this version.
what is this?
Just some pedo kino
pretty baby
What's that? I can't find it.
she's a whore who gave it up to a gyppo!
*bang*
The Russian version is the best
Swithed Lyne's off, put Kubricks on.
The lifetime movie acting, and poor framing, is not worth the gratuitous sexual scenes.
so what version do I watch and WHY?
Kubricks because its kino.
Lynes if you want sex scenes
Kubricks is a work of art. Lyne is lifetime tier smut.
Lynne is more faithful and has Jeremy Irons. The whole doctor subplot is dumb
lynnes feels like a lifetime movie. its so poorly shot.
you said that twice already and i truly honestly cant see how.
how ? costumes are great, sets look great, car looked great, actors looked good,
how ? seriously i cant see it
You can't see it because it's not true.
its hokey, melodramatic af.
>costumes are great
they dress Swan like she's 9, when she looks like a teenager (i know i've already said that)
watching kubricks right now, and the dialogue is much funnier and more witty.
e-boita was basically remade 1 year ago
how did licorice pizza or whatever got so much praise while this went unnnoticed?
probably because the entire movie uses non actors (regular people)
stop shilling your irrelevant film that has nothing to do with the subject matter
>old guy
>falls in love with teen
>they run away together
thats, e-boita
Based, this was a pretty decent flick and the girl a legitimate 10/10.
Because LP was made by PTA, but they don't have anything to do with eachother so your comment is dumb.
I'M HER FATHER YOU SICK FUCKS.
THAT'S MY DAUGHTER. SHE'S A DAUGHTER.
Nothing beats the low budget Russian porno version
what?
It's on xvideos
Here is pic.
whats the name
Literally Russian e-boita
>Russian e-boita
zero results. theres a block on that last word
>what is imdb
is that like lgtb?
what on earth is that.
in a way, yes it is
>he search on Google
Use Yandex like a functional human being, anon.
e-boita was Nabokov's magnificent tribute to literature. And the story only thrives reading it as a novel and you pretend you're reading the account of an imprisoned lunatic who is writing this grand novel trying to justify is morally abhorrent abduction and grooming of a young child and well you should read the fucking novel if you haven't already.
Neither Kubrick's film or the shitty 90s movie captures how Humbert Humbert is an elaborate parody of an Edgar Allen Poe narrator. How Humbert's flowery poetry on his e-boita is juxtaposed with the fact that he's a child molester talking lovingly of a smelly 12 year old brat. Or how Quilty is a doppelganger or Humbert, Peter Sellers was a once in a lifetime performer but his performance just didn't work in the movie. SPOILER below read the fucking book jesus christ it's easy as hell to pirate you have no excuse.
Reading the preface again after finishing the novel and realizing that Delores died in childbook felt like a punch in the gut. The most genius set up I've ever experienced in any work.
reading it now humbert seems absurdly horny. like he's getting off to just the scent of her unwashed hair. I'm not that smart tho and the prose is above my vocabulary.
That's the other important detail. The fact is you look at Sue Lyon (who is aged up to 16 in Kubrick's version) or Dominque Swain in this movie and the viewer really can't condemn Humbert Humbert as a monster for wanting to tap some teenaged poontang. It's morally wrong but it's not utterly vile.
In the novel e-boita is a literal child, if I remember correctly Humbert bribes her with Coca-Cola and cheap supermarket sunglasses. He's a total piece of shit. I think the funniest and most disturbing idealization Humbert has in the middle of the book is when he contemplates marrying and impregnating e-boita. He then tells the reader that his plan will be to then move on from fucking e-boita who would then be out of his sexual desirability and then begin molesting his theoretical daughter. Utterly hilarious how Nabokov writes it but it's the shit that Josef Fritzl did.
Anyway I would urge you to keep reading and keep your phone at hand to define/translate the words that Nobokov uses. It's what I did and 3 chapters in I really couldn't put the book down, as you should tell I'm not well read either but you will get acclimated with it. The wordplay and literary uses are just amazing in e-boita. Also feel free to look up the annotations that SparkNotes has for free, they'll point out amazing details you might miss.
yeah humbert seems pretty vile. he seems insatiable in the book so far. like he's constantly plotting to fuck her
reading it now. humbert is frothing like a rabid dog. sickening really
the films don't make it as clear as the book does that Humbert is a monster. The films have lots of young & dumb female fans who think it's a story about forbidden love or something, and that being into older men makes them sophisticated.
what's childbook?
Both of the films take themselves too seriously, I agree. I mean the whole structure of e-boita is that Humbert is a deranged megalomaniac who sets out to describe his infatuations with Dolores as if he's creating an artistic masterwork. The movies are too humorless. Nabokov always puts meta references in his works like how Dolores is partly inspired by Shirley Temple or all the academic parodies in Pale Fire
this movie is so shit like everyone was a shit human
Both version doesn't include part of HH in sanatorium so both are shit
I only liked the books because of the road trip sections, which adaptation handles that part better?
i think lyne's had more car scenes
>11 million views
i love reading the comment sections for shit like this
Dude just clicking on this shit will get you in the watchlist
im watching the movie now, and reading the book. RIP
they're watching 11 million people then i guess.
Pee pee poo poo
Nabokov's version is superior
reading it now and he really makes humbert seem deHispanicable tbh. he's literally foaming at the mouth with lust, and plotting constantly
Superior
>bored on a train recently so see what books I have on my phone, e-boita is one of the only ones downloaded
>open it up
>it opens to the last page I was at, 45% through
If you know you know