Lazzo came from a working class background, unlike a lot of other TV executives, he didn't give a shit about whether or not you had "credent...

Lazzo came from a working class background, unlike a lot of other TV executives, he didn't give a shit about whether or not you had "credentials" or 10 years of college experience. He was a self taught art punk that cared if you could make something interesting, cheap, and profitable. He gave a lot of upcoming creators work and a chance at financial success where nobody else in the early 2000's and 90's would. Lazzo is responsible for anime becoming popular in the US, and underground hip hop like J dilla and MF Doom taking off. He greenlit some of Cartoon Network's famous and beloved shows like PPG and Courage where nobody else would take a schizo like John Dilworth seriously. He greenlit loads of shows that people loved on Adult Swim like ATHF, Boondocks, Superjail, Metalocalypse, Venture Brothers. etc

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And where is he now?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And then he was still an butthole who didn't give a reliable guy who was there from the beginning like C Martin Croker work.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lazzo would be a bum at the airport without Ted Turner

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hi I worked for Lazzo

      the man was not self taught a god damned thing. He was a stoned frick that got lucky and was n the right place at the right time. He left 99.999999999999% of the work for anyone else and he made decisions. He was an ideas guy that never bothered having ideas.

      He would be a bum on a park bench and would have died by 1996 or so if not for Turner.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Lazzo is a peak example of people who said boomers/GenXers could just coast by in life and be successful. World was basically an oyster to him

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The man's life kind of is the perfect example of right place, right time. He is almost a cartoon character in how he just coasted through life while high as frick and somehow he retired rich.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He's responsible for that stupid fricking prank that led to CN's chief quitting when he wouldn't step down himself, and all those shit live action shows like Loiter Squad
        His obituary will amuse me

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lazzo was a high school drop out who started at a mail room level and somehow managed to become executive. He had an outside approach compared to the usual executive, the super-serious type who goes to a big business school and doesn't know shit outside financial numbers and quarterly gains for shareholders, which always blows up when they have no creative skills
    The end moral is this is just a glimpse of what this medium could strive towards if someone with some creative bones were in charge and if promotion in a company was still a thing. Unfortunately we'll likely never get an executive like this ever again

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Didn’t he seriously underpay the main animator for ATHF? The guy was responsible for a major hit on the network and was making the same as a Starbucks barista.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Lazzo is responsible for anime becoming popular in the US
    I hope chokes to death in his sleep tonight.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't he the guy that wanted Moral Orel to be darker and then didn't like it when that happened?

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He apparently really hates Space Ghost which was one of the early Adult Swim proto type shows.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    a complicated guy. made a lot of neat stuff happen by making it cheap as frick, but also didn't pay people well. but good pay would have made the shows too expensive probably.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      was lazzo actually in charge of pay rate? doesn't seem like something he would actually be responsible for, I imagine that would be a turner payroll thing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Executives make high level decisions on things like budget allocations, lower level managers decide where that budget goes.

        a complicated guy. made a lot of neat stuff happen by making it cheap as frick, but also didn't pay people well. but good pay would have made the shows too expensive probably.

        Crying about employee pay always irks me because it's only relevant to political activists. To me as an end-user, the only thing I care about is the value of the end product. If anything, it is beneficial to me as the consumer for employees to be paid less because that means the product will cost less on the shelves. No amount of pissing or moaning about 'class treason' or 'bootlicking' or whatever other abstract ideal is gonna change the fact that my chief concern is how far my own dollar goes. I'm not going to sacrifice my prosperity for the welfare of someone I don't even know.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >To me as an end-user, the only thing I care about is the value of the end product. I
          It matters when the lack of pay means no product at all in this case, either from employees having to leave due to lack of work or flat out dying due to not being paid properly in the case of C Martin Croker.
          This isn't about dollar hamburgers for frick's sake but about entertainment you can source to a handful of people.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm not going to sacrifice my prosperity for the welfare of someone I don't even know.
            When you consistently cheap out on production, that ends up affecting the production. You as the end user lose out by getting worse products that essentially cost the same as better stuff that came before it. Those savings in production never get passed onto you - it just lines the pockets of people up top.
            If I have to choose between paying creators fairly or giving dickbags like zaslav a 20 million dollar bonus, I'll choose paying the creators every time.

            Golden age Disney paid their animators peanuts (a lot of them were outright interns being paid nothing), anime isn't far off that now.
            When you pay people more, they become less passionate. the 'starving artist' meme exists for a reason; the best art is created by people who go unrecognised in their time.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Fine, pay them peanuts, but keep them employed and give them those peanuts regularly. This is what we're talking about.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, just look at internet artists. Some of the best stuff out there is by broke college kids working in their spare time for fun. Meanwhile you have fricks on patreon making 10 grand a month in donations drawing things at barely a level above chickenscratch because why try when they get paid anyway?

                I simply do not care what creators are paid, I care about how far my dollar goes. And there is a strong correlation between paying creators less and end consumers getting better value for their money. I'm not going to sacrifice my money on some vague principle like class consciousness. It's literally not my problem. Same reason I dropped cable and no longer watch modern cartoons; my dollar does not go as far as I want it to.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Some of the best stuff out there is by broke college kids working in their spare time for fun.
                And what happens when college loans come around and mom and dad's money dries up?
                They start needing to find avenues to make money

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They sell out, their art suffers, and another generation of starving artists come along. Have you not been paying attention?

                >it is beneficial to me as the consumer for employees to be paid less because that means the product will cost less on the shelves.
                you are a fricking giga moron. There is no correlation between what the product costs and what employees are paid, it's priced to sell in the market, that's it. Costs on the back end are never 1 to 1 and being so intensely stupid that you make this false equivalence means the world would be better off without you. Don't live with that, please actually take care of the problem.

                >money appears in the coffers of TV studios by magic

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                appears in the coffers of TV studios by magic
                I politely requested you to remove yourself from the earth, please hurry.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Concession accepted. Thanks for playing!

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >They sell out, their art suffers, and another generation of starving artists come along. Have you not been paying attention?
                But I still want art from the people who were starving once.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So you still follow people who were posting amateur art online in 2006?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I follow people who were posting amateur art online when I was a little kid following the internet in the early 2000's. Got to see him become an official artist, make a bunch of designs that would get adapted into physical ones, and continue to grow his skills.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm not going to sacrifice my prosperity for the welfare of someone I don't even know.
          When you consistently cheap out on production, that ends up affecting the production. You as the end user lose out by getting worse products that essentially cost the same as better stuff that came before it. Those savings in production never get passed onto you - it just lines the pockets of people up top.
          If I have to choose between paying creators fairly or giving dickbags like zaslav a 20 million dollar bonus, I'll choose paying the creators every time.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >it is beneficial to me as the consumer for employees to be paid less because that means the product will cost less on the shelves.
          you are a fricking giga moron. There is no correlation between what the product costs and what employees are paid, it's priced to sell in the market, that's it. Costs on the back end are never 1 to 1 and being so intensely stupid that you make this false equivalence means the world would be better off without you. Don't live with that, please actually take care of the problem.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >, but also didn't pay people well. but good pay would have made the shows too expensive probably.
      thing is, we're not talking about not paying them well back then when it was the early days of [AS] where they were just irking out budget pilots, we're talking about how when adult swim was proving successful and a tentpole of cartoon network. Lazzo had the means to keep people he worked with since the beginning to help hash out the AS empure employed and paid. He didn't.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    143673760

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    He looks like Cave Johnson from Portal if he became a hippie

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >for anime becoming popular in the US
    who the frick wrote this dreck, yeah fricking right, dragonball z maybe. Anime was a subculture before him and became popular by being a decent product, this guy had little to do with it.
    Taking credit for MF DOOM of all people the dick stroking is ridiculous.
    Man killed metalocalypse all you need to know about his moronic ass.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They're referring to Toonami, which absolutely played a large part in anime becoming mainstream in the US. Early Toonami ran DBZ, Sailor Moon, Voltron, Gundam, Outlaw Star, and Cardcaptors.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >They're referring to Toonami, which absolutely played a large part in anime becoming mainstream in the US. Early Toonami ran DBZ, Sailor Moon, Voltron, Gundam, Outlaw Star, and Cardcaptors.
        Nah. Pokemon did far more for anime than fricking toonami, don't kid yourself.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Pokemon wasn't really treated like an anime by WB. Sailor Moon and DBZ were just as big as Pokemon in the late 90s. Stuff aired on Toonami were sold on their 'Japaneseness', the handful of western cartoons they aired were done because of their similarity to Japanese cartoons like PPG.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Toonami babies have always been the Black folk of anime.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Anime was a subculture
      Exactly, a subculture.
      You'd need to spend money for VHS copies or trade tapes and do some legwork.
      Pokemon also helped anime boom, but as a kids product.
      Toonami was inviting you to watch it daily and stay up late to watch the real, uncut version.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Toonami was inviting you to watch it daily and stay up late to watch the real, uncut version.
        >real, uncut version
        You are fricking delusional.
        Toonami sucked, deal with it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No, I know dubbed DBZ with the old funi dub isn't the "real" version. I'm talking about marketing.
          Pokemon helped bring a bunch of anime over but none of those importers had any expectation to market to anyone over theage of 12. They were importing all those monster catching/fighting animes strictly as kids shows and if they ventured out(Saban getting escaflowne), it was to make those shows kids shows.
          There were VHS releases and even airings on sci-fi channel, but those put the anime strictly in the realm of stuff for adults.
          Toonami marketing managed to work both sides. They made a show targeted to kids, Dragon Ball Z, into a phenomenon that captured the attention of boys, teens, and adults.

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