The cage is on rollers and the humans roll it forward easily. The raptor runs and slams into it to roll it backward. It definitely should have had locks to secure it to the pen. And a remote control to raise the door. But it hadn't been a problem until then.
i mean, we don't know that. though, it does beg the question: if it was just "sea bass" and not chilean, where did it come from? was it peruvian, maybe colombian?
There were actually way more than three at first and it worked fine. It only went to shit when they brought The Big One in and she killed all the rest.
The one that killed Jophery at the beginning of the movie.
Muldoon mentions that "The Big One" is more vicious than any of the other raptors and killed all of them but the two runts and became the new alpha.
Unfortunately, all three raptors in the movie look exactly the same so we never know which one is the Big One
there's some videos trying to discern which exactly is the big one. I assumed it was the one muldoon was hunting and he's talking about how she used herself as bait so her pack could get him.
She gets a few shots that make her stand out. She's the one that's not locked in the freezer which means that her subordinate is the one that snapped at her which is weird. She's also the last one killed by the Rex.
>which means that her subordinate is the one that snapped at her which is weird
the others would be looking for any chance to take over themselves so that still tracks. that being said even the raptors don't have human level intelligence so it's not a stretch that it didn't realize it was the alpha it was snapping at. Animals just don't seem as aware as we are, though half of the people you see out and about don't seem self aware either so I guess that tracks.
>it worked fine.
That pen wasn't holding the "more than three" so it is invalid to state it "worked fine" to hold "actually way more than three". The three remaining got moved from a real paddock after the big one caused a problem.
It's really obvious that the bottom is below ground level given that yo can see the tree canopy inside it. Should have been a much large structure though
>Posts the velociraptor that was literally chicken sized and not the utahraptor or achillobator that more closely match the size of the dinos in the movie
Feathered dinos are pretty heckin cool.
t. Birdwatcher
>we see Nedry with an eye patch and cybernetic enhancements >"I'm here for my revenge....DAD!" >camera pans slowly to reveal the brain of Hammond in a jar voiced by Bob Odenkirk with a British accent >the jar is slowly lowered into the body of a T-Rex with gorilla arms >"as you can see...I spared no expense " >JURASSIC WORLD:REVENGEANCE
Meh, it's like a 6. I don't know what anyone expected from these flicks. All of them save for the first one were basically b movies with the budget of millions.
the first half is a lot of fun, like a bond movie with dinosaurs. the second half looks really nice but kind of builds to nothing. apparently there was a ton of issues in the editing process and I think a lot of stuff that would've been cool to see got cut so it'll probably be a better movie in a few years when that stuff leaks out.
It was trash, just a cavalcade of unnecessary characters, villains, ridiculous and unbelievable scenes (in a movie about dinosaurs), weirdly written moments, the black pilot was obviously wrote in as an afterthought, the cgi somehow had gotten worse. It was weird.
nah, it's an awkward amalgam of a bunch of big budget schlock tropes that has very little of the charm the original movie did.
First you have EPIC GLOBE TROTTING ADVENTURE IN EXOTIC LOCALES before it then transitions into SCI-FI DOOMSDAY SCENARIO and then finally some kind of attempt to be a Dinosaur movie for a bit. It has way too many characters when it barely has enough for one group to do; character motivations are dumb and simple, the CGI looks cheap most of the time, and it spends a quarter of its runtime overtly referencing the older movies in an embarrassingly patronizing way.
He wasn't a dinosaur expert. He was the game warden at Hammond's safari park, who decided to have him fill the same role at Jurassic Park because he trusted him. Muldoon was learning about the raptors by observation, rather than having a deep knowledge of them like Grant. He knew their hunting technique from his research, whereas Muldoon had never seen it since they just dropped helpless prey into the pen.
muldoon had been raising them so he probably saw them in action. Grant was able to figure it out probably by looking at modern animals who have similar structures and basing it on that, though I'm pretty sure spielberg added it to foreshadow muldoon's death and its not in the book.
>He knew their hunting technique from his research
What research? Digging up bones? Come on, man.
You have to remember that the director of this film is israeli, and israelites have an irrational hatred of armed white men. Muldoon represents everything Spielberg hates, so naturally he dies in the most contrived way possible, as if to say "God himself hates you, goyim!"
That's not fair because it's something that Hammond tells Ellie but you barely hear anything because the focus is on Muldoon talking about the raptors. It's because Hammond wants them to feel comfortable so as soon as Muldoon begins his rant Hammond is doing some damage control and he tells Ellie about the viewing area.
They never really show where the Raptor Paddock is compared to everything else in the park the ending sequence kind of makes it seem like it's near the visitor's center. Sounds pretty dumb to place it close to the highest concentration of people possible. Why wouldn't it be on the farthest spot with people guarding it with the raptor's being the 1st on a kill list if anything goes wrong?
Yea, it's fairly close to the visitor's center. Maybe it was to keep an eye on them more easily. They could get armed personnel out there way faster than if it was on the other side of the island. And they really weren't trying to break out all the time until the last raptor got there and changed things.
The layout is so moronic >put 2/5 carnivores outside the electric fence with the visitors >unload all cargo inside the fence with the dinosaurs >helicopter lands people outside the fence, they then go inside the fence briefly before going back outside the fence to the visitors center
Hammond was fricking moronic
lands people outside the fence, they then go inside the fence briefly before going back outside the fence to the visitors center
Helicopter is for VIPs and is designed to be a scenic route. Pleebs come on the boat.
Critchon knew enough about systems to purposely design one that was fricking doomed. The layout is one of the first revelations a reader can have about just how much he'd thought about the book.
they weren't on the official tour yet, would probably need to be kept in an exhibit with a roof modeled after a savannah or something. You have to imagine they were going stirr crazy and that little box.
early marketing stuff refers to a 'site C' that never actually appears. It seemed like it was going to be a kind of super resort with some dinosaur stuff, but 3 islands is a bit much so they cut it back to Site B. It kind of makes Site B make more sense since it being covered in redwoods is pretty stupid so having most of it be more typical tropics implies Ingen was pulling some terraforming shit for the Rexes.
IIRC in the book the raptor pen wasn't supposed to be their permanent or publicly viewed home, the only reason they go to it is because they see the baby raptor and Grant demands to see the adults. In the book they originally tried to put them into their actual proper park exhibit, but one just jumped the fence and mauled a worker (this is what the movie's opening is loosely based on). So they ended up just building the highest security thing they can just to contain them for the time being, because Hammond is a jackass who refuses to see that there's no way they'll ever be able to put them into the proper park.
Yep, what's the benefit of being rich otherwise? They don't dock the yacht, they anchor it offshore and those wagies they're paying drive a small boat with them and their picnic supplies to the beach. Then wait on them hand and foot for however long. Would be amazing for both really, I'm sure the crew gets paid and treated well
Probably not so often these days without security. It was something of a trope in adventure and pulp at some point though, which Critchon was a fan of in his youth.
Everything was fine until the power went out
>doors and gates need power to stay closed
see
fire hazard regulations
Regulations? In a dinosaur zoo?
Rules? In a knife fight?
>Everything was fine until the power went out
Stand clear of moving parts
OH N-
This scene doesn't make any sense at all. Does the raptor push 15 ton solid steel cage out of the way like it's nothing? Literally unwatchable
DONT FRICKING DISSECT THE MOVIE >:(
The cage is on rollers and the humans roll it forward easily. The raptor runs and slams into it to roll it backward. It definitely should have had locks to secure it to the pen. And a remote control to raise the door. But it hadn't been a problem until then.
If you read about any industrial accident they basically play out like the start of JP so it really doesn’t bother me.
>Fed a steady diet of cuban children.
It's a hurricane zone. Hurricanes often take out the power.
Not if you have redundant power systems and buried utilities
Expenses that Hammond no doubt spared.
um, excuse me Hammond spared no expense
Yeah on the chili and sea bass, not upkeeping the safety protocols.
>chili and sea bass
It was Chilean Sea Bass
i mean, we don't know that. though, it does beg the question: if it was just "sea bass" and not chilean, where did it come from? was it peruvian, maybe colombian?
JP is usually said to be off the coast of costa rica so probably from there.
Looks pretty fricking secure, t b h
How the raptors ripped through the steel tubing is pretty dubious, power off or not
>How the raptors ripped through the steel tubing is pretty dubious, power off or not
They werent dinosaurs, they were genetic circus freaks, they couldve had super strength for all we know.
The novel describes them biting through steel
muldoon said they would test it for weak spots. so when they deduced that the power was out, they probably didn't have much of a hard time getting out
There were actually way more than three at first and it worked fine. It only went to shit when they brought The Big One in and she killed all the rest.
Which one was the big one?
The one that killed Jophery at the beginning of the movie.
Muldoon mentions that "The Big One" is more vicious than any of the other raptors and killed all of them but the two runts and became the new alpha.
Unfortunately, all three raptors in the movie look exactly the same so we never know which one is the Big One
It's likely the "clever girl", but as anon says, they're all one model
The one at the beginning gets shot?
Well Muldoon realy wanted them to shoot her to death. Part of the reason why he wants to get rid of them.
The one wearing the mask
there's some videos trying to discern which exactly is the big one. I assumed it was the one muldoon was hunting and he's talking about how she used herself as bait so her pack could get him.
She gets a few shots that make her stand out. She's the one that's not locked in the freezer which means that her subordinate is the one that snapped at her which is weird. She's also the last one killed by the Rex.
>which means that her subordinate is the one that snapped at her which is weird
the others would be looking for any chance to take over themselves so that still tracks. that being said even the raptors don't have human level intelligence so it's not a stretch that it didn't realize it was the alpha it was snapping at. Animals just don't seem as aware as we are, though half of the people you see out and about don't seem self aware either so I guess that tracks.
>it worked fine.
That pen wasn't holding the "more than three" so it is invalid to state it "worked fine" to hold "actually way more than three". The three remaining got moved from a real paddock after the big one caused a problem.
>Chilli & Sea Bass
My nephew running things? Not that strunz. Not in this life
i always thought it was deeper than ground level
It is
It is deeper and also larger, what we see is only the hole on the roof of the enclosure for venting and feeding.
formerly airconditioning and chuck
Don't defend shit set design. I shouldn't have to infer as to the hypothetical design of a structure in order for it to make sense. Sloppy job
It's really obvious that the bottom is below ground level given that yo can see the tree canopy inside it. Should have been a much large structure though
There's no other explanation, either you should see them or they are tiny creatures that wouldn't require such security measures.
Then how did the Raptors jump out of it?
they climbed
They should all be destroyed
Raptors can't bend steel beams
Raptors sure are HECKIN scary!
cute!
>we know raptors had feathers because......... WE JUST DO OKAY????
how come these scientist homies can find a whooly mammoth fully preserved frozen in ice but hadn't produced 1 (one) dinosaur in the same manner
There were still mammoths around when the pyramids were built
WE
You mean something like this?
That's real. But the feathers were put there by Satan as a trick.
how do you know they didn't? why are you trusting Hollywood directors over scientists?
Yes
Imagine getting killed by this thing. It would be more embarrassing than anything.
Yeah, good thing they're not real.
>Posts the velociraptor that was literally chicken sized and not the utahraptor or achillobator that more closely match the size of the dinos in the movie
Feathered dinos are pretty heckin cool.
t. Birdwatcher
It was dug out, obviously.
>we see Nedry with an eye patch and cybernetic enhancements
>"I'm here for my revenge....DAD!"
>camera pans slowly to reveal the brain of Hammond in a jar voiced by Bob Odenkirk with a British accent
>the jar is slowly lowered into the body of a T-Rex with gorilla arms
>"as you can see...I spared no expense "
>JURASSIC WORLD:REVENGEANCE
Punished Nedry
A man denied his embryos
AND THEY RUN WHEN THE SUN COMES UP
They should all be destroyed.
Is the new movie worth watching? I watched the previous two. But this one seems a little shit. But I also love Dino kino
>Is the new movie worth watching?
Definitely no, it ruined all the charm.
Meh, it's like a 6. I don't know what anyone expected from these flicks. All of them save for the first one were basically b movies with the budget of millions.
the first half is a lot of fun, like a bond movie with dinosaurs. the second half looks really nice but kind of builds to nothing. apparently there was a ton of issues in the editing process and I think a lot of stuff that would've been cool to see got cut so it'll probably be a better movie in a few years when that stuff leaks out.
It was trash, just a cavalcade of unnecessary characters, villains, ridiculous and unbelievable scenes (in a movie about dinosaurs), weirdly written moments, the black pilot was obviously wrote in as an afterthought, the cgi somehow had gotten worse. It was weird.
nah, it's an awkward amalgam of a bunch of big budget schlock tropes that has very little of the charm the original movie did.
First you have EPIC GLOBE TROTTING ADVENTURE IN EXOTIC LOCALES before it then transitions into SCI-FI DOOMSDAY SCENARIO and then finally some kind of attempt to be a Dinosaur movie for a bit. It has way too many characters when it barely has enough for one group to do; character motivations are dumb and simple, the CGI looks cheap most of the time, and it spends a quarter of its runtime overtly referencing the older movies in an embarrassingly patronizing way.
Don’t forget the ending where
>dinos and man, living in harmony
Mosasaurs and whales BFFs
Who wants to see pussy ass Raptors when there's a fricking BIG OL t-rex???
baka at ur life rn
More like big ol Turkey-ex. Wrekt.
It won't frick you, anon.
>implying
That's on fantasy island not isla nublar.
>"expert" on raptors
>doesn't know about their hunting tricks
>gets killed
Great writing.
He wasn't a dinosaur expert. He was the game warden at Hammond's safari park, who decided to have him fill the same role at Jurassic Park because he trusted him. Muldoon was learning about the raptors by observation, rather than having a deep knowledge of them like Grant. He knew their hunting technique from his research, whereas Muldoon had never seen it since they just dropped helpless prey into the pen.
>He knew their hunting technique from his research
What research? Digging up bones? Come on, man.
muldoon had been raising them so he probably saw them in action. Grant was able to figure it out probably by looking at modern animals who have similar structures and basing it on that, though I'm pretty sure spielberg added it to foreshadow muldoon's death and its not in the book.
You have to remember that the director of this film is israeli, and israelites have an irrational hatred of armed white men. Muldoon represents everything Spielberg hates, so naturally he dies in the most contrived way possible, as if to say "God himself hates you, goyim!"
>an irrational hatred of armed white men.
One of the storyboarded endings was Hammond shooting the raptors
http://www.youtube.com/vI8fp0ez6vw
And it didn't end up in the film proper because Spielberg would see it as glorifying his enemies.
In the book hammond dies like a b***h to a pack of compys. they instead do this in the second movie to stromares character.
link doesn't work?
How were guests supposed to see the raptors?
That's not the cage where they're displayed to the public.
Source?
The movie.
That's not fair because it's something that Hammond tells Ellie but you barely hear anything because the focus is on Muldoon talking about the raptors. It's because Hammond wants them to feel comfortable so as soon as Muldoon begins his rant Hammond is doing some damage control and he tells Ellie about the viewing area.
They never really show where the Raptor Paddock is compared to everything else in the park the ending sequence kind of makes it seem like it's near the visitor's center. Sounds pretty dumb to place it close to the highest concentration of people possible. Why wouldn't it be on the farthest spot with people guarding it with the raptor's being the 1st on a kill list if anything goes wrong?
Yea, it's fairly close to the visitor's center. Maybe it was to keep an eye on them more easily. They could get armed personnel out there way faster than if it was on the other side of the island. And they really weren't trying to break out all the time until the last raptor got there and changed things.
The layout is so moronic
>put 2/5 carnivores outside the electric fence with the visitors
>unload all cargo inside the fence with the dinosaurs
>helicopter lands people outside the fence, they then go inside the fence briefly before going back outside the fence to the visitors center
Hammond was fricking moronic
lands people outside the fence, they then go inside the fence briefly before going back outside the fence to the visitors center
Helicopter is for VIPs and is designed to be a scenic route. Pleebs come on the boat.
Critchon knew enough about systems to purposely design one that was fricking doomed. The layout is one of the first revelations a reader can have about just how much he'd thought about the book.
That map is moronic. There were way more fences all over the place, each carnivore was separate from the general population.
But there's no raptors on that map?
they weren't on the official tour yet, would probably need to be kept in an exhibit with a roof modeled after a savannah or something. You have to imagine they were going stirr crazy and that little box.
>they didn't even build a fence around the sea bass
It was doomed from the start
Kino
Huh, as a kid I always thought JP3 was set on a third island
The island in JP3 doesn't bear much resemblance to the island in JP2, so you could be forgiven for thinking that.
early marketing stuff refers to a 'site C' that never actually appears. It seemed like it was going to be a kind of super resort with some dinosaur stuff, but 3 islands is a bit much so they cut it back to Site B. It kind of makes Site B make more sense since it being covered in redwoods is pretty stupid so having most of it be more typical tropics implies Ingen was pulling some terraforming shit for the Rexes.
Dinosaurs aren't real
Dinosaurs are fake the world is only 6000 years old satan put them there
This homosexual was proto-reddit.
>quips every five seconds
>le science man
>Spielberg tries to play him off as sexy or attractive
Woops forgot pic
it was larger, it has an underground part
I forget where I saw it but the paddock was mostly underground. Its had a viewing area so they could be viewed on ground level.
IIRC in the book the raptor pen wasn't supposed to be their permanent or publicly viewed home, the only reason they go to it is because they see the baby raptor and Grant demands to see the adults. In the book they originally tried to put them into their actual proper park exhibit, but one just jumped the fence and mauled a worker (this is what the movie's opening is loosely based on). So they ended up just building the highest security thing they can just to contain them for the time being, because Hammond is a jackass who refuses to see that there's no way they'll ever be able to put them into the proper park.
do rich people really do this? Just set up camp on any island they dock their megayacht on?
It's unlikely anyone would ever notice and if they complain you just pull up anchor and go on. Maritime culture is different.
Yep, what's the benefit of being rich otherwise? They don't dock the yacht, they anchor it offshore and those wagies they're paying drive a small boat with them and their picnic supplies to the beach. Then wait on them hand and foot for however long. Would be amazing for both really, I'm sure the crew gets paid and treated well
Probably not so often these days without security. It was something of a trope in adventure and pulp at some point though, which Critchon was a fan of in his youth.
very kino shot
>The Steven Spielbergs epic tale, Jurassic Park, why does the fat guy shut down all the systems?