This was the only way they could make the 4bn a profitable investment. Well, it also required the each annual movie to be a big hit. So that investment has been written off.
no. no maybe one video game ever has made a billion profit. to make the 4bn pay they had to make over 4bn profit in under like 10 years. You haven't thought this through
They didn't buy Star Wars alone, they bought LucasArts. Pirates of the Carribbean (using a script of The Secret of Monkey Island) made them their nut already.
This was the only way they could make the 4bn a profitable investment. Well, it also required the each annual movie to be a big hit. So that investment has been written off.
Because TLJ backlash led to Solo bombing which killed this idea
>If this was true he wouldn't still be getting his own trilogy of movies that are totally still happening you guys no really.
b8, the news outlets circulate this every so often to try and spite fans and not let them think they've won
Solo bombed because it was a story no one was interested in where the hack directors got booted off and replaced with a third hack director who had no idea what to practically do with it other than following micromanaged committee notes
No, they're doing it to bring back attention to the brand. At this point they can't afford "just" indifference. So negative marketing it is.
I am 100% convinced Amazon is pulling the same stunt with "Rings of Power" - since they know the Reddit crowd will give them positive attention by default, they're specifically drawing attention to aspects they know will draw in the right-wing/poltard etc. crowd - coloured people.
I feel like he did it on purpose so he could save cinema and go back to making real films like Brick. He also helped many people realize that The Force Awakens was shit. Based in my book.
This was the only way they could make the 4bn a profitable investment. Well, it also required the each annual movie to be a big hit. So that investment has been written off.
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You can thank Rian Johnson for killing this
You now live in an alternate timeline where Rian Johnson never was selected to make TLJ.
Star Wars is still a hugely popular franchise with massive consumer base similar to the MCU. 1-2 movies come out a year, usually around December. Christmas season is now officially known as “Star Wars season”. Entire films about young Leia with hologram Carrie Fischer with stock audio have been released. May 4th is a federal holiday and Baby Yoda is more recognized than Jesus. Political protestors are regularly dressed as rebels and George Floyd is made an honorary Jedi. Tesla comes out with a car that looks like the Millennium Falcon. Kimetsu no Yaiba bombs in the west, unable to compete with the wildly popular Star Wars comics. John Boyega is a mega-star who successfully uses his career to become Prime Minister of Britain and abolishes the Royal Family and is declared Peoples Sexiest Man Alive in perpetuity. In China, the Hong Kong protests are inspired by the Rebel Alliance and manage to topple the CCP, preventing them from leaking covid.
You're right and the visual dictionary books are also peak kino.
>The 1st one was just a soft reboot to introduce some charaters and lay the basis for the new story so it doesnt count.
It shit on the 6 real star wars movies.
You're right. To me, Star Wars is just the first 6 Star Wars movies, Rogue One and Visions only because of the cute rabbit alien.
crosssections books were a proof of having a plan, in disney wars there isn't cross-section books and even if they have it, they are unspired and full of bullshit or errors, no passion in dinsey wars projects
Genndy directed cartoon movie where general grievous infiltrates a republic ship and picks off the crew one by one. Survival horror on a spaceship kinda like Alien
Just go back to Lucas' original sphere of influences. Rip off more jidai geki/ wuxia, make small scale self contained films unrelated to the skywalkers. Random jedi on missions that's about saving someone, or a small group rather than large scale empire vs rebels stuff. Mandalorian got the right idea with that Lone Wolf and Cub thing and it's also the entry in current SW that's viewed more favorable even among mainstream fans.
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You can thank Rian Johnson for killing this
This was the only way they could make the 4bn a profitable investment. Well, it also required the each annual movie to be a big hit. So that investment has been written off.
That's why they let Abrams shit out his typical lazy work.
if you count tv shows (which are basically films these days) they weren't lying
Probably shouldn't have completely alienated a large percentage of your primary audience if this was your goal. Or at least made good movies to attract new audiences to replace them.
What a disaster.
They didn't do it on purpose, though. Disney honestly thought the "regular" Star Wars fan is already locked in and secured (white adult men), so now they need to reel in other demographics. Hence the constant minority pandering. Of course, it blew up in their face.
Plus the fact that, as time goes on, it becomes apparent that this was a case of everyone involved in the projects lying to everyone else. The blind leading the blind.
Ruin johnson being given the reins for the FIRST actual new mainline Star wars movie, both script, the screenplay doodles and directing, the works, is one of the most bizarre events in filmmaking history.
The 1st one was just a soft reboot to introduce some charaters and lay the basis for the new story so it doesnt count.
What were all the disney exes thinking approving a script that 1. does nothing to advance the story 2. lays no groundwork for the 3rd movie.
>The 1st one was just a soft reboot to introduce some charaters and lay the basis for the new story so it doesnt count.
It shit on the 6 real star wars movies.
Someone should make Rian go on the record and explain what he would have done with the third film if he had to write and direct it. Because he left Trevorrow scraps. And the thing that pisses me off the most about Rian Johnson is how he went and asked JJ to change the ending to TFA because of the story he wanted to tell in TLJ, and JJ obliged him. Meanwhile, when Trevorrow came to Rian and asked that he not kill off Luke at the end of TLJ so he could use him for the third film, Johnson basically told him to frick off. No wonder Trevorrow quit.
Yeah, it worked back then because nobody knew it was going to be a trilogy, this time around everyone expected it to be one and there has been good examples like lotr. As soon as they got rights from George they rushed into production, even when they didn't even know what they wanted to make. And it was hilarious
The fact that Disney went into Star Wars completely blind is one of the best arguments that there isn't a secret cabal of people controlling society. Cause if you can frick up a slam dunk like this, how do you rule the world?
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They're still making a profit with every movie. They don't have to make a great, faithful Star Wars film, they just have to shit out whatever and then market it big enough to get everybody to watch it by default
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Anonymous
>They're still making a profit with every movie.
No, they lost money as early as the third movie. Solo was an objective flop. The Rise of Skywalker likely directly lost money too. There's a reason there hasn't been any Star Wars movies in production for years.
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Anonymous
Fourth movie. Forgot about Rogue One.
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Anonymous
>one of the best arguments that there isn't a secret cabal of people controlling society
You seem to think this theoretical cabal is some kind of alien evil council with millions of contingencies and everything goes according to plan like a capeshit movie. Humans make mistakes.
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Anonymous
It's not 1 cabal, and nowdays they're controlled by moronic trustfund babies who don't know what they're doing
The smart ones are dying out of old age
I have not watched any of the shows after Mandolorian. I have not watched Solo. I will not watch any future movies. zi will not go to Disney parks. I will not watch MCU.
Colin Trevorrow Fired From Episode IX
Phil Lord and Chris Miller Fired From Solo
Josh Trank Fired From the Rumored Boba Fett Movie
David Benioff and D.B. Weiss Fired From rumored next Star Wars Trilogy
Gareth Edwards Sidelined on Rogue One
Because they believe the name of the director will convince the average peanut brain to watch the movie/show. And they're 100% right. Just think about how many of you tardos on this board chose to pay money to see Dr Strange 2 because Sam Raimi's name was attached.
If you want to seriously bad TV, go watch Wellington Paranormal on HBO. It's Waititi's project, he produced and is in it. It's the worst thing I've ever watched. His star is plummeting to earth. Everything he touches underperforms, or is total shit.
I'm betting he's deep into a Disney money coke habit.
He just did Our Flag Means Death, which reviewed well critically. Though it genuinely feels like a piece of fanfiction written by a Tumblrite circa 2012.
Producer barely means anything, he would've had nothing to do with Wellington Paranormal
It looks like more of a Jemaine Clement project and Waititi putting his name on the project/ producing it gives it a lot more clout, and helps out a friend.
force awakens was so garbage that i didn't watch anything after it. ep 8 actually sounds ok since it does some stuff differently, but still not going to watch it or anything else
This was the only way they could make the 4bn a profitable investment. Well, it also required the each annual movie to be a big hit. So that investment has been written off.
>This was the only way they could make the 4bn a profitable investment.
Video games and merchandise should have done that long ago
no. no maybe one video game ever has made a billion profit. to make the 4bn pay they had to make over 4bn profit in under like 10 years. You haven't thought this through
They didn't buy Star Wars alone, they bought LucasArts. Pirates of the Carribbean (using a script of The Secret of Monkey Island) made them their nut already.
Egregious bait
They also bought ILM, which is probably the only profitable dvision of Lucas now, along with Lucas Sound.
You can thank Rian Johnson for killing this
Why?
If this was true he wouldn't still be getting his own trilogy of movies that are totally still happening you guys no really.
Because TLJ backlash led to Solo bombing which killed this idea
>If this was true he wouldn't still be getting his own trilogy of movies that are totally still happening you guys no really.
b8, the news outlets circulate this every so often to try and spite fans and not let them think they've won
My favorite part of Solo bombing was how much they overspent on it because they just had to change directors and do a shitload of reshoots
They practically filmed it twice. They were something like 80% done when the studio yanked them for Ron Howard.
Solo bombed because it was a story no one was interested in where the hack directors got booted off and replaced with a third hack director who had no idea what to practically do with it other than following micromanaged committee notes
No, they're doing it to bring back attention to the brand. At this point they can't afford "just" indifference. So negative marketing it is.
I am 100% convinced Amazon is pulling the same stunt with "Rings of Power" - since they know the Reddit crowd will give them positive attention by default, they're specifically drawing attention to aspects they know will draw in the right-wing/poltard etc. crowd - coloured people.
That Solo movie looked awful, they had the guys who'd done the fricking LEGO movie screw it up and it had to be totally reshot
JUST TWO MORE YEARS RIANBROS!
TRUST THE PLAN!
Thank You, and Sorry.
I feel like he did it on purpose so he could save cinema and go back to making real films like Brick. He also helped many people realize that The Force Awakens was shit. Based in my book.
Reminder if you didn't drop nu wars after tfa you never liked star wars to begin with.
The original IX, Duel of the Fates, built off what Johnson set up. JJ is just a hack
That's why they let Abrams shit out his typical lazy work.
You now live in an alternate timeline where Rian Johnson never was selected to make TLJ.
Star Wars is still a hugely popular franchise with massive consumer base similar to the MCU. 1-2 movies come out a year, usually around December. Christmas season is now officially known as “Star Wars season”. Entire films about young Leia with hologram Carrie Fischer with stock audio have been released. May 4th is a federal holiday and Baby Yoda is more recognized than Jesus. Political protestors are regularly dressed as rebels and George Floyd is made an honorary Jedi. Tesla comes out with a car that looks like the Millennium Falcon. Kimetsu no Yaiba bombs in the west, unable to compete with the wildly popular Star Wars comics. John Boyega is a mega-star who successfully uses his career to become Prime Minister of Britain and abolishes the Royal Family and is declared Peoples Sexiest Man Alive in perpetuity. In China, the Hong Kong protests are inspired by the Rebel Alliance and manage to topple the CCP, preventing them from leaking covid.
>what happens to teethfu and bunnyfu?
>Bunny
Rogue One was the best of the Disney War films at least. It still had problems, but not as bad as the others.
Reminder all nu wars is homosexual shit
Post your ideas for Star Wars movies:
>Cyberpunk neo-noir thriller set on Coruscant
clone focused battle for control of a planet. honestly, just take the Umbara episodes from TCW and make it a live action movie.
The cross-section books are so kino
You're right and the visual dictionary books are also peak kino.
You're right. To me, Star Wars is just the first 6 Star Wars movies, Rogue One and Visions only because of the cute rabbit alien.
That book was the only truly good thing to come out of Star Wars
crosssections books were a proof of having a plan, in disney wars there isn't cross-section books and even if they have it, they are unspired and full of bullshit or errors, no passion in dinsey wars projects
Genndy directed cartoon movie where general grievous infiltrates a republic ship and picks off the crew one by one. Survival horror on a spaceship kinda like Alien
Just go back to Lucas' original sphere of influences. Rip off more jidai geki/ wuxia, make small scale self contained films unrelated to the skywalkers. Random jedi on missions that's about saving someone, or a small group rather than large scale empire vs rebels stuff. Mandalorian got the right idea with that Lone Wolf and Cub thing and it's also the entry in current SW that's viewed more favorable even among mainstream fans.
if you count tv shows (which are basically films these days) they weren't lying
Probably shouldn't have completely alienated a large percentage of your primary audience if this was your goal. Or at least made good movies to attract new audiences to replace them.
What a disaster.
They didn't do it on purpose, though. Disney honestly thought the "regular" Star Wars fan is already locked in and secured (white adult men), so now they need to reel in other demographics. Hence the constant minority pandering. Of course, it blew up in their face.
Plus the fact that, as time goes on, it becomes apparent that this was a case of everyone involved in the projects lying to everyone else. The blind leading the blind.
>Disney is well and truly out of ideas for anything original that people want to throw money at
Sounds like a threat
>2015
The overconfidence of Disney israelites was always their greatest weakness.
Ruin johnson being given the reins for the FIRST actual new mainline Star wars movie, both script, the screenplay doodles and directing, the works, is one of the most bizarre events in filmmaking history.
The 1st one was just a soft reboot to introduce some charaters and lay the basis for the new story so it doesnt count.
What were all the disney exes thinking approving a script that 1. does nothing to advance the story 2. lays no groundwork for the 3rd movie.
>The 1st one was just a soft reboot to introduce some charaters and lay the basis for the new story so it doesnt count.
It shit on the 6 real star wars movies.
Someone should make Rian go on the record and explain what he would have done with the third film if he had to write and direct it. Because he left Trevorrow scraps. And the thing that pisses me off the most about Rian Johnson is how he went and asked JJ to change the ending to TFA because of the story he wanted to tell in TLJ, and JJ obliged him. Meanwhile, when Trevorrow came to Rian and asked that he not kill off Luke at the end of TLJ so he could use him for the third film, Johnson basically told him to frick off. No wonder Trevorrow quit.
I think they tried to recapture OG trilogy in a way how Empire had different director.
Empire being good doesnt exactly make a trend you can follow half a century later.
Yeah, it worked back then because nobody knew it was going to be a trilogy, this time around everyone expected it to be one and there has been good examples like lotr. As soon as they got rights from George they rushed into production, even when they didn't even know what they wanted to make. And it was hilarious
They could've picked their established directors to write a complete trilogy beforehand.
The fact that Disney went into Star Wars completely blind is one of the best arguments that there isn't a secret cabal of people controlling society. Cause if you can frick up a slam dunk like this, how do you rule the world?
They're still making a profit with every movie. They don't have to make a great, faithful Star Wars film, they just have to shit out whatever and then market it big enough to get everybody to watch it by default
>They're still making a profit with every movie.
No, they lost money as early as the third movie. Solo was an objective flop. The Rise of Skywalker likely directly lost money too. There's a reason there hasn't been any Star Wars movies in production for years.
Fourth movie. Forgot about Rogue One.
>one of the best arguments that there isn't a secret cabal of people controlling society
You seem to think this theoretical cabal is some kind of alien evil council with millions of contingencies and everything goes according to plan like a capeshit movie. Humans make mistakes.
It's not 1 cabal, and nowdays they're controlled by moronic trustfund babies who don't know what they're doing
The smart ones are dying out of old age
True and based.
I'd love a Star Wars movie set on the bottom levels of Coruscant featuring gangsters.
I completely agree with you. Rogue One and Visions are the only Disneyshit I consider to be canon in the Star Wars franchise.
I completely agree with you, the Battle of Umbara is my favourite battle in the Clone Wars because it's basically Space Vietnam.
I have not watched any of the shows after Mandolorian. I have not watched Solo. I will not watch any future movies. zi will not go to Disney parks. I will not watch MCU.
Why keep hiring "flavour of the week" directors.
This is not even the first time
Colin Trevorrow Fired From Episode IX
Phil Lord and Chris Miller Fired From Solo
Josh Trank Fired From the Rumored Boba Fett Movie
David Benioff and D.B. Weiss Fired From rumored next Star Wars Trilogy
Gareth Edwards Sidelined on Rogue One
Because they believe the name of the director will convince the average peanut brain to watch the movie/show. And they're 100% right. Just think about how many of you tardos on this board chose to pay money to see Dr Strange 2 because Sam Raimi's name was attached.
>new Rian trilogy in the works
>new Dumb&Dumber trilogy in the works
>New Taika Waititi trilogy in the works
>New Taika Waititi trilogy in the works
lmao I think it might legit not. Thor's getting critically reamed.
>Thor's getting critically reamed.
Not just critics, general audiences. It has the same Cinema Score as Wonder Woman 89
>It has the same Cinema Score as Wonder Woman 89
I meant 84 and yeah, shit's bad
If you want to seriously bad TV, go watch Wellington Paranormal on HBO. It's Waititi's project, he produced and is in it. It's the worst thing I've ever watched. His star is plummeting to earth. Everything he touches underperforms, or is total shit.
I'm betting he's deep into a Disney money coke habit.
He just did Our Flag Means Death, which reviewed well critically. Though it genuinely feels like a piece of fanfiction written by a Tumblrite circa 2012.
Producer barely means anything, he would've had nothing to do with Wellington Paranormal
It looks like more of a Jemaine Clement project and Waititi putting his name on the project/ producing it gives it a lot more clout, and helps out a friend.
don't forget that patty jenkins film and the kevin feige film, its totally happening guys
forgeting:
>bobba fett film
>lando film
>obi-wan film
>another anotloghy film
>game of thrones' directors trilogy
come on pal do a better research.
Well. That aged poorly.
Cad Bane should get his own spinoff film. I love being a Cadchad.
force awakens was so garbage that i didn't watch anything after it. ep 8 actually sounds ok since it does some stuff differently, but still not going to watch it or anything else
I'd rather have a movie every year than all these goddamn shows all the time.
Oy vey