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That's fricked up. He could have been an anti-nazi like Colonel Claus von Stauffenberg and the dumb ameritards killed him.
Tough shit.
Von Stauffenberg wasn’t anit-Nazi he just felt the leadership, namely Hitler, was bungling the war. He was an ardent nationalist and probably didn’t give two fricks about the israelites.
>he wasn't an anti-nazi he just believed in things that were different than the nazis and tried to kill the party leadership, arrest the SS, and take control of the government
He wouldn’t have shut down the camps or stopped fighting lol
They unironically would have, you sound like you have no idea what you're talking about. Goerdeler, who was the planned prime minister of the new government had Stauffenberg succeeded, was making back channels with the Anglo-Americans. The conspirators wanted to negotiate peace with the Allies so that they could halt the Soviet advance and transition into a British-style constitutional monarchy. Goerdeler himself envisioned Europe being ruled by a council with equal representation to independent European member states that resembles what the EU is today. The conspirators in general were conservative monarchists who found the Nazi internment of German israelites to be a betrayal of the German people. Whether they would surrender would have been dependent on the West. At that point the West was pushing for unconditional surrender, which obviously no government was going to give into.
why did he say this when his life was in danger? seems kind of stupid to me.
maybe german autism
>someone shoots at you from a 50cal machine gun all the way uphill
>once you reach him he's all "let bygones be bygones"
>if you kill this person you are suddenly a war criminal
???
Yes.
Yes. Warfare is supposed to be long ranged because we have guns now. Getting up close and personal like that is almost always an accident, so the right thing to do is capture them or both turn around and walk away (count to 100).
>>if you kill this person you are suddenly a war criminal
According to whom? You aren't obligated to accept a surrender under international law.
>You aren't obligated to accept a surrender under international law.
Er, yes, you are.
The Hague Regulations provide that it is especially forbidden “to kill or wound an enemy who, having laid down his arms, or having no longer means of defence, has surrendered at discretion”. Additional Protocol I prohibits attacks against persons recognized as hors de combat and provides that such attacks constitute grave breaches of the Protocol.
Under the Statute of the International Criminal Court, “killing or wounding a combatant who, having laid down his arms or having no longer means of defence, has surrendered at discretion” is a war crime in international armed conflicts.
>fly over city, indiscriminantly bombing
>target hospitals and schools
>get hit back
>run away like cowards
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T SHOOT ME DOWN, IT'S AGAINST THE RULES
Dude grow up, it was only 7.92mm. That's like one-third less than 50cal.
Yes because the point of war is not to kill people for it own sake, but to achieve a victory opponent by most means necessary. And if you disagree then you're saying POWs don't have rights and pic related is okay.
The Japs did nothing wrong. The world is a better place with fewer flips, chinks, asiatics, aussies, bongs and mutts in it. Pity they lost.
if you kill people who surrender the rest will fight to the death, why do you think fighting on the eastern front was so bitter?
>why do you think fighting on the eastern front was so bitter?
Because the R*ssian government didn't care about the life of their subjects (as always in their history).
They were afraid of the front bogging down into attrition warfare, so they preferred heavy losses today to avoid a quagmire for the next year. The Germans were slightly surprised by the hesitance shown by the American army to commit to attacks like the Russians did, because American commanders preferred to conserve their men and knew they would be at an advantage in a war of attrition by 1944.
Someone made a good video about how this entire movie dehumanizes germans like not making them scream when they're on fire.
>implying germs are human to begin with
Americans enslaving blacks for 250 years, with 100 years of Jim Crow, and genociding 50 million American Indians, and Britain genociding India with a forced famine and enslaving hundreds of millions of people are far more evil and less human than English and Americans.
The most human white people are slavs and romance-language people, anyone descended from nordic stock like the english and original americans are robotic protestant subhuman exterminators and enemies to humankind.
based
>But muh slavery!!! Muh Black folks!!!
even the Nazis thought you went too far
see the propaganda image
The nazis heemed and screamed over everyone and everything else because it took scrutiny off of them while they gassed israelites and depopulated entire cities of white people. Same with Soviets.
It's called "propaganda", not "logical, truthful, fair-handed assessments of reality". Dipshit.
Jews and Slavs are not human, that's the difference
Black folks are our fellow men and enslaving them is an insult to their dignity as men and women of God
>Gassing an entire race to death is one thing.......but MAKING Black folkS DRINK FROM A DIFFERENT WATER-FOUNTAIN?!?!?! TOO FAR!!!!!
calm down Boris
>dehumanizes germoids
but you would have to be human in the first place
Yeah that was Rob Ager
rob ager is based and doesnt get enough praise around here
They started 2 world wars, are responsible for millions of deaths. Their state should have been destroyed so that they would not rise again.
Serbia started WW1 for assassinating a world leader. UK started WW2 for giving Poland a false guarantee
>false guarantee
They joined the war against Germany, how was it fake?
They did literally nothing to help Poland, and didn't declare war on the USSR when they also invaded.
The cheeky bastards included a clause that said if Germany attacks or if they are attacked from the west, they will help, something like that.
The allies also did nothing when the unrelated soviet agression against Finland happened. They just looked the other way and cornered Finland into axis sphere.
fricking over poland is somewhat of an european tradition. Everybody has done it once and if not, plans on doing it.
to be fair, every major country wanted ww1 to happen and were looking for reasons
back 2 r/historymemes
In 1917 they're unthinking unreasoning brutes and in Dunkirk they are silhoutted menaces. It's really funny how they try to hammer home the pathos and empathy and humanity of the UK soldiers and them compare them to the zombies they're fighting
Will they scream when winter comes and they start freezing?
>like not making them scream when they're on fire
Black person that's called "shock" and it's meant to make the scene MORE gruesome, not less. Seeing someone burn alive and not respond is even more fricked then them reacting like you would expect.
Additionally there are gorey scenes where Germans ARE screaming, and gorey scenes where allied troops don't.
iirc it's not that they're silent as they're burning, it's that they make weird inhuman alien/insectoid noises
a better example of the movie dehumanizing the enemy is that the Germans all have shaved heads and are virtually indistinguishable because of it, whereas in reality the regulation German haircut was this
Agreed this transphobic movie is really problematic
>posted from my iToddler device
Well yeah, it's peak american propaganda flick
>what do you think 'bitte bitte' means?
all these brainlets in the thread don't even know what the german language sounds like. the guys pleading for their lives in the scene are pleading in czech and they're saying 'we're not german, we're czech! we don't want to be here!' because they were czech conscripts that literally got forced to fight. that's why the scene is played off as dark - not just because they killed POWs, but because those POWs weren't even real german soldiers but chaff conscripts forced to be there after their own countries got invaded.
"I was just following orders! Don't kill me!" The defense that worked so well after the war!
I remember in school they repeatedly told us "in war, people always dehumanize the enemy! you can't kill them if you think of them as people, so propaganda turns them into animals! it's all lies!"
When I actually spoke to guys who'd been in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan and let the conversation to that and asked "so what did you actually think about the Taliban/Iraqis you were fighting?" they always just said that they were a bunch of buttholes but otherwise didn't think any less of them. And from what I can tell the Taliban especially just considered Americans to be an annoyance who they would avoid while fighting their actual enemy, the Afghan government.
>American white trash cannon fodder can't distinguish German and Czech
kek very accurate
they probably don't even know they're speaking English
"we speak Americun hurr durr!!"
>American white trash cannon fodder
I mean they survived and the slavshit didn't. Who's "canonfodder" again?
They would have wiped the whole world out if they had their way.
lay off the capeshit for a while
They would have depopulated china given enough time. They literally saw themselves better than everyone until america gave them a bloody nose. You'd be lucky to be a slave until its your turn to bend over in a beheading contest.
peak shizo, not even american/british ww2 propaganda claimed that
you talking about the nips or the krauts?
Spielberg did a really good job of feeding the audience the message of murder being good in ways that the audience doesn't even realize.
OP's scene in particular. The Americans are shown murdering a POW and the MC (and therefore the audience) reacts appropriately - disgust. But Spielberg intentionally made the murdered POWs Czech conscripts. Does the vast majority of the audience for this movie recognize Czech vs German? No. But the director has subtly made the point that murdering these prisoners was bad just because they weren't Germans.
And of course at the end of the movie Upham's character is redeemed by murdering another POW that was picked up and let go earlier, showing the audience that the rest of the characters were right to want to murder the prisoner in the first place. The prisoner's murder is shown in an inspiring and uplifting light and is the end of Upham's character arc.
Same thing happened in Band of Brothers where multiple characters are known to murder prisoners for no real reason, and instead of being depicted as criminal psychopaths they're badass tough guys with true grit (just like every other character in that series). For instance they make one character escort prisoners and he gets angry because they only give him one bullet knowing that he'd just murder all of the prisoners. Is he considered a bad guy? No, he's a hero, or at least that's how the audience sees him.
It's pretty well done, Spielberg deserves credit for that.
the movie sucked after the opening scene.