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funny enough it was also the height of Cinemaphile
but who was boat
There's a show called 'From' on like showtime that's trying to capture the same magic it's sometimes decent but I have a feeling it's going to have nothing but open ended questions and no resolutions too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_(TV_series)
epix actually and it's impossible to find any info about it because of that fricking name
Epix is now the MGM network or streaming service, whichever you call it.
Jack Bender directed this too?? Is it worth a watch?
It's just a boring 30 minutes per episode where they talk about their feelings, 10 minutes of something shocking happening, that isn't all that shocking because they just spend 30 minutes setting up their feelings so you know they won't die because otherwise they have wasted that time (lol) and 5 minutes at the end "answering" a mystery but actually just introducing a new mystery.
So you tell me.
It actually hit me right at the mark and I think this is the single show feeling most like LOST since LOST itself.
Its turning into crap, but when season 2 though?
Would you invite in a top cutie?
>but I have a feeling it's going to have nothing but open ended questions and no resolutions too.
So you’re saying it’s just like Lost?
From was legitimately scary as frick a few times. I love the concept to death, but I don’t have much faith they’ll resolve it well. Still going to watch it until they prove they’re spinning their wheels tho.
I watched it after a recommendation from here.
They have like 3-4 episodes of material, but pad it out to 10 episodes by focusing on the life of the village.
The finale explained absolutely nothing and introduced more mystery boxes.
Why do zoomers hate lost?
filtered by their tiny attention spans, they can't actually watch tv, or movies if it isn't constant blaring noises, action, or marvel quips.
Ironically Lost doesn't require a good attention span, since it's just a show that was made up on the fly and lasted for however many seasons the studio execs needed it to last. All it had was an interesting concept to draw people in, which it succeeded at, but there was no greater vision behind it. It's essentially a pivot between old-school television and modern Netflix garbage.
That is ironic.
Non troll reply, I've actually watched the show with zoomer friends who were constantly on their phone. They end up getting hooked all the same. The show actually gives plenty of reminders throughout the dialogue even within the episode itself. Remember it was the first of its kind when it comes to basic cable and there's no way to record or rewind what you missed. Also, each episode was designed in a way for you to be able to follow it if it was your first time.
I watched the entire first season on ABCs website and was even able to fast forward past the commercials
being only half paying attention is probably the best way to watch lost since you don't get hung up on all the meaningless mysteries.
>there's no way to record or rewind what you missed
bro we had TIVO and DVR back then
If you didn't watch it as it was airing you're most likely not going to watch it later. And if you didn't watch it you were going to hear about it every day anyway.
And trust me as someone who didn't watch it, it got REALLY fricking tiring having to hear about this dumbass show every single day as it was airing. I'll never watch it and I scorn anyone who talks about it.
>captcha: 0K GAY
I think Lost is way better in binge-watch form. I would have been very annoyed by the waits after cliffhangers. Favorite show
The waits were part of the dramatic effect.
I bought the season 1 dvd set a few weeks after season 2 started airing and binged it all over the weekend. Then I had to watch season 2 on a week to week basis and it was frustrating as hell since you often had two or three weeks between episodes and a big cliffhanger would some times not be followed up in the next episode at all. Like when they go after Michael and meet the Others, then the next episode is about Charlie going crazy. I appreciated season 2 much more when I rewatched it and was able to binge it instead.
Yeah, watching the middle episodes with Ana Lucia were such a drag. It’s better to watch in one go
Kek, btfo'd by captcha. You deserved it too, anon. Lol what a gay!
Imagine being so homosexual you let other people decide what kino you will or won't enjoy. What a sad lonely life.
I liked it when it was just them surviving on an island. Very kino. And then the last few seasons just became increasingly moronic and bizzare
because we know how it ends
lost starts well and then goes nowhere it becomes very clear that they didn't know what to do with things they set up
1. It's not capeshit
2. No forced diversity
3. No tiktok references
come up with that by yourself, satan?
>no forced diversity
Lost has natural diversity. You know, the way it's supposed to be. Somehow they did diversity much better 20 years ago than they do nowadays.
1. Why did you reply to this 9 hr old post?
2. It didn't, you stupid polchud
I am 30, if you rewatch it without le epic twists/theories in mind then you realize it's just nihlistic bullshit about annoying people b***hing at each other and betraying each other for the most moronic reasons ever, the writing is effectively on par with CW's the 100. Also the flashbacks turn the thing into a complete soap opera with everyone having an insanely convuluted background instead of the initial hook of "widely disparate people are stuck on a magic island with no way out".
tldr the show is genuinely not good if you take the twists (which were made up on the fly) out
>the 100
excellent analogy. goyslop that your gf would watch because it activates her drama/gossip neurons. no man should watch anything like this.
>Why do zoomers hate lost?
Their kino savvy Gen X cynic parents know a narrative Ponzi Scheme when they see one. Abrams and Lindelhof were always bullshitters.
I watched it while it was airing and I dropped it at season 3 when I realised they were just building tension with "epic" moments but never delivering. Remove the mysteries and it's just a mediocre character drama.
It was actually a pretty good character drama. Only time they ever did a mixed race couple without making it cringe.
because they are bingewatching it at home instead of discussing the plot twists and mysteries with their friends every week
>bingewatching
Nothing has ruined television more than this. People born after streaming will never know what it was like having a week between episodes to mull over what happened. To be on edge waiting for a cliffhanger, to talk to your friends and theorize about things while waiting to see more.
The anticipation made even "filler" episodes interesting and gave you something to look forward to on boring weeknights.
Now people just grind out the latest slop in one night and forget about it by the next week. There's no time to absorb or ponder what you saw just move onto the next episode. It's an overload of information and the fine details get lost in the sauce.
>Nothing has ruined television more than this. People born after streaming will never know what it was like having a week between episodes to mull over what happened. To be on edge waiting for a cliffhanger, to talk to your friends and theorize about things while waiting to see more.
This.
It's only befitting to the throwaway, cynical digital era we live in now for tv shows to be turned into mental mush and to be forgotten a week after being consumed.
It's genuinely an awful way of watching tv. There is no room to ruminate on episodes, there's no room for anything, you simply don't have time to develop nuanced opinions about it, or to get attached to anything for real, it just comes and goes. This isn't something exclusive to mystery shows or shows with cliffhangers, literally anything you watch will be impacted by being binged, just the simple fact that a show has to stay with you longer means you're thinking about it more.
I'm so glad that the third season of twin peaks aired weekly instead of just all being dropped at once.
>shows that release an episode weekly don't exist anymore
boy i better finish TLOU right now then
Because it's popular to hate Lost on Tiktok. None of them have actually seen Lost and will also never bother to watch it since it's not trendy to do so.
Too long. They are used to 8 episode seasons of series that rarely get more than a couple of seasons, so they simply don't have the attention span to dive into a 100+ episode series.
Their brains don't work.
'91 here and lost is dogshit, AMA
Are you watching The Lat of Us? The 3rd episode was the greatest episode of any show ever.
Kino
Why did Charlie lock himself? There was a enough time for him to get past the door and lock it behind him before the place gets flooded
He was out of heroin and didn't see the point of continuing.
Try closing a door that a million pounds of water is pushing open, dummy
>to get past the door and lock it
>sinking boat
He was ready to die there and Desmond told him about his vision of them leaving on a helicopter. He believed if he didn't die there it wouldn't come true.
It still didn't come true though, Claire never got on a helicopter. Whoopsie.
>not penis boat
like 'i bond burgered your sister?'
glad discord finally showed up
what a gay post
except it's been proven for years. pretty pathetic that you morons had to stretch to other boards and offsite too
Did they ever address who Not Penny was and why they had a boat?
Whats with all the lost threads lately
It's a good show
Shilling to drum up hype for a sequel show with everyone's kids on the show and Walt as the new Jacob. The autist bumping it is b8ing to see if anyone at least cares enough to hatewatch. Doing God's work.
kek when I was 15 I watched this show every wednesday night with eager anticipation. poured over the lost message boards for clues I may have missed. this finale was the breaking point for me, particularly this scene. I realised the writers were just fricking with the audience.
my young self spent so much time trying to decipher what turned out to be pointless garbage made by cynical israeli writers. Lost could have actually been a beautiful story (with a linear beginning, middle, end)
Ywnbaw
is that you, JJ? What does the 'j' stand for?
>this finale was the breaking point for me
mate this is like the peak of the show for most people. you clearly are tone deaf or contrarian or/and just have shit taste.
>peak of the show
>nothing resolved
>main character dies for no reason
>somehow carries on for 5 more seasons
landscape shots of ocean set to sad piano music isn't good drama
>>main character dies for no reason
carries on for 5 more seasons
did you watch the show in the wrong order????
The ending made me cry 😛
Through the looking glass was the last great LOST episode. S4, 5, and even 6 had some good ones but they never matched the quality episodes of the earlier seasons
But on the plus side, once this homosexual died and Claire just kinda wandered away, the most annoying accents were gone.
2 is the worst season
No, it peaked with the hatch drama. S4 is the worst
After the amazing first and last episode it drags on. They struggle to balance the mystery with the character to the point where both suffer. Season 3 was the perfect balance and is the peak of the show.
The day to day in the hatch did kinda suck.
Season 2 is amazing. It just dwells a bit in the second half. Everybody Hates Hugo is one of the best episodes of the series though.
Agreed with this. Season 4 was just really sloppy, of course because of the writers strike. I'm glad the show got its groove back in the remaining seasons, but the 1st 3 seasons still were untouchable
uhh season 4 was fantastic, not to mention it had The Constant episode, which was the best episode of the entire series.
not sure if you are memeing because all the normies say the Constant is their favorite. it's a great episode don't get me wrong. but there's plenty better ones.
i will admit they spent waay too much time in that hatch, we really didn't see much of Claire or Charlie, Jin or Sun, or anyone outside of the hatch in the second half.
>not sure if you are memeing because all the normies say the Constant is their favorite
It's no meme, brotha. https://youtu.be/iUaHMOWRYpI
Claire and Charlie sucked. He was a creepy, pushy stalker who kidnapped her kid for a midnight baptism. And like a week later she's back with him.
Human population doesnt know what kino is. They see dangling shiny keys and throw money at it.
Wow. Really makes you think.
I liked it when Sayid (the brown guy) tortured Sawyer. heh, get the irony? it's a subtle play on waterboarding and the war in iraq but with the rolls reversed.
>If you didn't watch it as it was airing you're most likely not going to watch it later. And if you didn't watch it you were going to hear about it every day anyway.
And trust me as someone who didn't watch it, it got REALLY fricking tiring having to hear about this dumbass show every single day as it was airing. I'll never watch it and I scorn anyone who talks about it.
most network dramas are soulles because they're built around stretching as much drama & tension as possible so you'll watch the commercials. I remember heros was like this
This, 20 minutes of every episode was dedicated to commercials. All the fricking breaks ruin the flow. If LOST was on HBO, it would’ve been a lot more refined and concise. 13-14 episodes and they’d probably scrap shit ones like the Rose-Bernard centric episode and Nikki and Paulo
>And trust me as someone who didn't watch it, it got REALLY fricking tiring having to hear about this dumbass show every single day as it was airing.
Very true, it was extremely annoying and I still hate this piece of shit series with a burning passion.
Haha, you're such a Locke.
LOST was shit, promising shot, but still shit. A glimpse of what we'd all have to deal with from JJ and Lindelof to even this day. That doesn't even count the LOST copycats that ruined TV for years.
>Very true, it was extremely annoying and I still hate this piece of shit series with a burning passion
3>1>5>6>4>2
S4 had 2 good episodes, the widmore stuff and flash forwards were meh. Jack’s descent into the pills and him and Kate’s relationship was completely rushed
Locke was a Black person and deserved everything bad that happened to him
Yeah that's the point.
Was Locke killing Naomi completely out of character? This was a guy that refused to kill his piece of shit father even though he deserved it and it would’ve made him an other, which is what he wanted. 2 episodes later, he’s willing to stab an unarmed person in the back no problem
yea honestly this was one of the most ridiculous things in the entire show to me. they really needed to explain that more or give locke an episode about it or some shit.
Wasn't his excuse that he thought the island told him not to? i cant remember.
He literally couldn't let go of his father plus he suspected Ben was just fricking with him. He kills Naomi after the island tells him to through taller ghost Walt. Naomi was calling people that were planning on coming to the island to kill everyone and he knew it.
Because lost forever poisoned audiences against slowly unfolding narratives by pretending it had one
bump
Best girl coming through
The only woman on the island who manages to wash her face every day.
Jin would have beat her if she didn't
He was such a great guy.
what color do you think her niple are?
dumb frogposter
>it's a Sun episode
She got better in the later seasons but she was fricking useless in S1-S4
Jack made some ridiculous faces, he was angry almost every episode
*cheats on you*
ywnbaw
I watched it a decade ago and wasn't on tv at the time. Still my fav show ever but don't remember much.
Which episode does charlie writes down the things he loves ( or something similar ) on a paper? Is it the same one? i remember it because of how kino it was
Yeah it's the same episode. He's writing about the best moments in his life and he gives it to Desmond (scottish guy) to give to claire.
You can tell the writers didn't know what to do with walt and dumped his ass back on the mainland
There should’ve been more man vs nature episodes were just trying so survive on the island. By s2, they had a shower and a stockpile of Dharma food. Everything became so easy for them
*where they’re
when i was watching lost for the first time some Hispanic spoiled the ending for me and i threw an ashtray at him
that's all
carry on
Spoiling the ending of lost means nothing. He was probably a brainlet that thought they were dead the whole time.
>implying
I keep seeing these, are they real games or somehow someone animated this just for the humor?
real games, but they are just generic mobile clickers that have nothing to do with the ads except for maybe the same characters showing up or something like that
Huh, ok thanks. The people making these trailers really know how to make it just moronic enough to keep my attention.
>we have to go back to the island locke
>you will never be a woman jack
with all the reboots and revivals I'm kind of surprised that there hasn't been a word about a LOST one happening. LOST is coming up on its 20th anniversary since the pilot aired and it's been 13 years since the finale.
Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful they're not doing it, but I'm also surprised
>fires Kate because she becomes a mother
Jacob was based
lost started out real cool but it was so boring and gay i just didn't care about it at the time and i shan't be watching it now either. this shit was prisonbreak tier. cool idea that was ruined by gays.
SO WHOS BOAT WAS IT?!?!? I sweat Cinemaphile you're getting old in your old age
Read thread. Penny's dad sent a merc team. For reasons.
Season 1 was perfect. Survival playing a huge role made every episode feel engaging, the island really felt like a character of its own, the way all the flashbacks culminate in the finale, how we learn about their troubled past, how we see their struggles making it onto that flight only for it to crash, really selling the point that it was fate that brought them all together. Season 1 was the only season with consistently good flashbacks. The god tier cliffhanger of the hatch and WAAAALT. It was perfect. I love season 1 so much.
Season 2 has some of the best additions in terms of lore but hasn't held up as well on rewatch because the filler is rough and its the worst kind of filler where the writers insult your intelligence by trying to make it seem meaningful when its not, filler that doesn't even explore its characters in any interesting way, its just there to seem like something exciting might be happening but it never does. The hatch may just be the peak of the show and the beginning and end of season 2 is excellent, a lot of the material in-between however is not great. Still a good season though
Season 3 is definitely better than 2 is, its more consistent, while there's still filler in 3, its done better, episodes like "Tricia Tanaka is Dead" is filler done in the best possible way, that said "Stranger in a Strange Land" is worse than any episode from season 2. I'd say the weakest part about season 3 is the island material in the first 7 episodes, all of it feels like filler because the writers were clearly more focused on hydra island at the time. But once Kate escapes and we get "Flashes Before Your Eyes" the island starts getting more interesting again, then of course there's the barracks and the various dharma stations. I love season 3, its flawed for sure but still great fun. Also one of the most legendary twist endings of all time.
Season 4 is focused and to the point, with only a couple of episodes that feels like they waste your time. The new characters worked great, even their flashbacks were enjoyable. It's a decline in quality from a lore and character perspective though, but as a season centered around finally leaving the island I think it did a good job.
Season 5 is where the show officially jumps the shark but I can still find enjoyment in it if I turn the critical thinking part of my brain off. Time travel is dumb fun and the 70s dharma storyline is comfy. Them ending up being responsible for the very incident that is responsible for the plane crash is a bit of clever writing, even if it is kind of dumb at the same time.
Season 6 is not enjoyable at all. 80% of the season is filler and the writing is dogshit, all of the island material is shit and the flash sideways was only exciting the first time you watched them.
1 > 3 > 4 = 2 >> 5 >>> 6
There is 0 filler in Season six
The first half with the Temple shit sucked ass. Season got much better after Flocke wiped them out
Really? The split camps with Team Flocke and Team Jack wasn't a complete waste of time until they got to the submarine? Which happened 13 episodes in. Name one meaningful thing that happened in those first 13 episodes as far as those two camps go, they literally meander for 70% of the season so they can set up the big submarine shit.
What happened in the temple that ended up having a lasting impact? Sayid getting the "sickness" ? they just discard that, they do the same for Claire, it was just nothing. What happens then? I bet you can't even remember because nothing happens, they just meander doing nothing because they're stalling to setup the submarine escape for the entire fricking season. Sure Ab Aeterno was a good episode but its not a good episode because of any setup the season has.
S2 mostly sucked because of all the unnecessary deaths: Libby, Ana, Shannon... so much wasted potential. Michael went full Black person as well
S4 could've been really good but it rushes past so many story beats that it hurts the quality (also they completely forget about Charlie kek)
Also I don't get the Hydra Island criticism, those episodes were really tense and it's nice that it served a purpose in S6
>Also I don't get the Hydra Island criticism, those episodes were really tense and
the criticism wasn't about the hydra island, it was that the main island suffered in terms of writing for the first 7 episodes because the writers were more focused on hydra.
I really enjoy the hydra island stuff, perhaps I didn't make that clear in my post.
>female characters su--
I am the only lost fan that likes Kate
She was hot but her flashbacks were always moronic
>break into a bank to steal a toy plane
>successfully evade and beat up the same marshal several times
>date a cop while on the run
>it's a Kate post
Hurley's girlfriend was too hot to die. And they never revealed why she was in the same mental hospital as Hurley.
Didn't the libby and ana lucia actresses both get in DUIs and got booted from the show?
Yes, that's the only reason they were killed off. Eko wanted to leave, so they killed him as well
iirc ana lucia was always supposed to be there for only one season and would have died anyway, it was just libby that got killed off specifically because of the dui.
>libby and ana lucia actresses both get in DUIs and got booted
I never bought into this.
Even in todays clown world it would be harsh to cancel someone over a DUI, 20 years ago it would be crazy.
i buy it, the showrunners were weirdos. they claim it's all a coincidence (even the joke in the title of the episode) but they've been known to lie about all sorts of shit and reportedly they were unpleasant and hard to work with. at one time they made up a nasty story about charlotte's actress in order to blame a continuity mistake on her and then had to retract it. i don't think the dui thing was so much a "cancelling" as vindictiveness over some behind the scenes drama.
>vindictiveness over some behind the scenes drama.
yeah that was my point, there must be some other reason
The people making lost had no idea what the frick the story was going to be when they made it. Every season was made up when they made the season, with no overarching story planned as the show was originally only planned to be like three seasons, but ABC wanted the cash cow to keep going.
And it's still a more cohesive story than most of the shit you get today, when most shit today is based on some preexisting ip.
"People" get their hands on a series like halo, and frick it up to the point of being nearly unrecognizable as halo.
It's fricking baffling that they keep getting work if you don't take into consideration that it's all in purpose, and your favorite ips are just being used to bait people into watching garbage so studios don't need to try anymore.
This is because modern media productions are made by committee with storyboarding "key content indicators".
I had the misfortune to be on a production once as an electrical engineer and had a look behind the curtains.
It's literally things like "We want to see at least 2 women in the scene background in this 2 minute time window etc". Absolutely asinine.
they also have weird product research documents where they "scientifically" justify what types of color is used for the clothing the actors wear and it reads like a schizo rant from /x/ and /misc/. Talking about "energies" and weird shit like that to try and pass it off as if there was logic behind the choice instead of just the visual director pushing his personal shit through.
In the past media wasn't made with these key cultural indicators in the back of the mind.
The greatest show ever made or that ever will be made for the ausiovisual kinographic medium.
So, the joke is that "Penny's boat" sounds like "pennis boat"?
the rest of y'all know
Station Eleven had a similar vibe and touched on a lot of the same themes.
how did a polar bear get on the island
Without looking up the answer, I would have to guess that it's because the island moves around the globe, and it wound up near the Arctic at one point or another
Ben has a portal where he can travel anywhere and you see him go to the Antarctic one time so the bear probably came through the same portal.
>how did a polar bear get on the island
Dharma brought them on the island to make them operate the wheel
There is a wheel that teleports you off the island, but whenever it does, it exchanges the person with a polar bear. Something about balancing energy.
im pretty sure it was aboard the french research teams vessel when they shipwrecked
Dharma did it for no actual reason.
Diversity quotas, political agendas, bad writers, bad actors etc.
When a show gets made now it has to fit some kind of political agenda right from the start. Look at all the new Marvel shows for example. They all have to be about a female protagonist now because men are bad. So now you have female Hawkeye, Ms. Marvel, female Loki, She-Hulk etc.
A female protagonist alone doesn't make a show bad, of course, just look at Buffy. It's just that they need to spit on white males at the same time for some reasson in addition to all the bad writing of course. Which leads to the next point.
Bad writing. Why is all the writing bad? Well, the political agenda to an extent leads to only one type of writer. And on top of that, the only people getting hired for writing usually get in through nepotism/connections not on any sort of merit. On top of that, the writing team is also forced to be diverse. At no point is any effort being made to hire actual good writers. Or do you think The Witcher's showrunner Lauren got the job based on her writing quality and overall resumé?
Then there are the actors. These days nepotism and diversity quotas hinder the hiring process for actors a lot. It's pretty much impossible to get the right actor for the part anymore. Some HR fricks look at their statistics and interpret in their bullshit HR soup-brained way and heavily advise that your favorite white male character needs to be a black heavily feminized transgender. Look at the abomination that is the Willow series or Rings of Power for example. They hire some diverse actors with the right connections, no matter if they fit the role or can even act, then call it a day. Don't forget they made the entire Velaryon family black in House of Dragons because they didn't want "another bunch of white people on screen".
The quality of the story and its characters have simply taken a heavy backseat when it should be the primary focus.
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And the boat turned out to be..a bunch of mercs. Wow.
well that "bunch of mercs" were
>a guy able to talk to ghosts
>a hot redhead
>a guy who could travel through time
I'd say that was OK
They weren't the mercs. And adding a team of fricking X-Men was stupid.
I want Juliet to breastfeed me
Rank the finales.
Through the Looking Glass (S3) > Exodus (S1) > Live Together, Die Alone (S2) > The Incident (S5) > There's No Place Like Home (S4) > The End (S6)
Well you definitely got the last one right.
typical US TV where they drag it out while it's successful then, when it isn't anymore, cut it off without a decent ending.
they make other tv?
where the frick is that edit where his hand says 'frick pennys butt'
I saw it years and years ago but never again
up. fricking. voted.
Because the proliferation of JJ Abraham’s and his ilk has been terrible for the art of story telling. Lost became shit in season 4 when it became clear that the writers had no idea where they wanted to go and what they wanted to say, then plodded along for two more seasons until it ended with an empty wet fart
Is this the zoomer Stockholm syndrome support thread?