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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did Tendi show up?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >not Tendi
      Frick.

      truly a missed oppurtunity, her voice actress is cute enough to pull it off too

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Damn, she'd be great.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly I think the LD characters were definitely cast in part based on whether they could potentially play their characters in live action as well.

        As someone actually watching the season now, this was a very minor aspect on the episode, which was entirely about the lower decks trying to impress another crew. Her bisexuality was not the main plot of that episode.

        That's how this shit always goes. It's very rarely a focus of an episode or show but people lose their goddamn minds about it existing at all

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I must defend the gay agenda!

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's Star Trek /misc/tard, if gay people trigger you spare yourself and us and just stop watching. There's multiple season of Yellowstone for you at this point, enjoy.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            You lost already. It’s time to shut up.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              And that's a good thing because lgbt is here to replace you

              It's Star Trek /misc/tard, if gay people trigger you spare yourself and us and just stop watching. There's multiple season of Yellowstone for you at this point, enjoy.

              Most of the canceled shows were heteroshit though. Proof the people are tired of it

              >fake outrage
              Real subtle incel-kun

              YWNBAW

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ywabav

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                A virgin can just hire a hooker.
                A troony will always be a troony.

                The odds are not in your favor.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >paying for sex when it's free
                I can see why you're still a virgin. You put on the pussy behind a paywall

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                your birth name will be on your gravestone

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You won't have a grave stone

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I can’t comprehend how someone can be this obsessed with other people’s gender and they think this is a good comeback

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I am the person you're responding to. I dont care about the gay agenda. Or your/any agenda. I said in another post I actually have no interest in relationship stuff at all. In fact I skip stuff like sex scenes in media but I understand I'm not who it's there for.

            It also doesn't detract from my enjoyment because it's literally not the focus. It's just there and I dont really think about it at all unless it's directly plot related so it baffles me that it existing period is so triggering to you guys. It's literally nothing and you could easily ignore it as I do or just watch something that aligns with your interests and sensibilities more. That seems logical to me. You're acting like a baby and making it seem deeper than it really is.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Considering half of the DS9 episode was wasted on lesbian book club shit, yes, it’s intrusive and obnoxious.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                They did this on purpose. It was a calculated publicity stunt

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yo all I said is I dont care and try to just pay attention to aspects of the show I am interested in of which there are still plenty.

                And if it was then it failed since the only people I've seen talking about it are the morons in this thread

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          It’s not helped by the fact that the lesbian couple was viewed as an intentional contradiction of a very prominent ship in the fandom. The show was viewed as rather fan-friendly up until that point so no wonder people felt betrayed.
          Nothing good came out of this.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            The show sold its soul to LGBT activists. There’s no walking it back and it’ll only get worse.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              And that's a good thing because lgbt is here to replace you

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Mariner and Boimler are more interesting as friends, Chadward Boimler stepping over women left and right like the Jimmy Olsen of space is a great joke, and I don't give a frick about shipping in Lower Decks because it's a sitcom.

            Plus they can still have a Chakotay/ Seven asspull kiss in the finale.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I like it actually I'll like it a lot but also understand it's a sitcom so I'm not dying for it and won't really get man it it never happens.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Putting Mariner and Boimler is the only way LOW could possibly redeem itself. It’d require a Picard S3 style course correction.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                A Picard-style course correction would require the change of showrunner, change of all the writers, and a change of producers.
                It’s never going to happen, McMahan has too much influence.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                No one would miss McMahon

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                He’s got dirt on some at Paramount so he’s not going anywhere until they’re forced to fire him.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It’s unfortunate that McMahan’s greasy unwashed Cheeto fingers are all over the SNW crossover too.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you so invested in the one pairing? Grow up.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                1. They’re cute.
                2. It would be an ideological statement.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It would be an ideological statement.
                >a show must cater to my identity politics to be good

                You sound like an butthole.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You win some today, you lose some tomorrow. It’s only fair.
                LGBT people need to brought down a peg.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                A Picard-style course correction would require the change of showrunner, change of all the writers, and a change of producers.
                It’s never going to happen, McMahan has too much influence.

                It doesn't need a course correction, it's a good show.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You claimed that Picard S1 and S2 were good earlier ITT, so your opinion doesn’t count. An aggressive course correction (ie making something for the fans) would be good for LOW.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not that anon (which is the point) so how come you know who it is.
                That's a problem in this thread, it's hard not to strawman each other.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Whether you think it’s a good show or not, getting rid of Roiland’s creepy colleague would be a net gain for the show. For one, he’d stop harassing the lead actress.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Picard S3 style course correction
                If only

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Mariner and Boimler
                Literally the most incel thing imaginable.
                >he's smart, so all pussy must fall in his wake!

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >not Tendi
    Frick.

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    is she going to be a lesbo in live action too??

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I assume they're betting on the audience forgetting about the woke shit.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's the best part about her though. She triggers chuds. They've been complaining about woke for decades now and more and more shows keep supporting it because they're on the right side of history.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I assume they're betting on the audience forgetting about the woke shit.

      Mariner and.. Boimler? I thought no one cared about those two?
      Where’s that blue dyke, McMahan!? You told me that’s what everyone wanted to see instead of that boring het shit.

      you're late to the game

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        And resetting the show back to status quo somehow redeems it for having some of the most obnoxious gay shit in recent memory?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >some of the most obnoxious gay shit in recent memory
          literally two (2) episodes out of ten (10) in S3 featured Jennifer, in one of them she was an illusion for 10s, and in both cases it was just one of the subplots.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >most obnoxious gay shit
            >lasted less than 15 minutes
            You're more sensitive than the gays

            Anon, I'm not some conservative nutcase. I'm fine with gay shit as long as it's in service of the story, and it's properly fleshed out, like in The Owl House.

            The bullshit in Lower Decks involved the main character randomly falling in lesbians with some literal who and then the show expecting you to care when they break up. The fact it was just shallow pandering that stuck around for an entire season like a sorry reminder that the show is now "that kind of show" what made it obnoxious.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I'm not some conservative nutcase.
              No, you're just a whining b***h

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >whining
                Maybe if the show didn't stoop so low, there'd be no whining?

                You're blaming people for being mad instead of blaming the writers for writing shit that made them mad.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >blaming people
                They'll keep blaming the fans and expect their quarterly returns to be good lololololol

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                They'll do just about anything instead of making a good show.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                TBF part of Paramount's problem is they have a streaming service that outside of Star Trek has a weak selection of the large catalog of actually good stuff they have access to and fewer original shows than other services to justify paying for their streaming service continually. They think they can just lean on Star Trek

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Writers didn't derail every discussion of this show. That's on you.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's your problem. You'll keep blaming everyone for your problems instead of people responsible.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >the show expecting you to care when they break up
              the scene here

              [...]
              [...]
              you're late to the game

              conveys the exact opposite. the only episode that showcased the Mariner x Jennifer relationship had them bickering non-stop. if anything, you were supposed to NOT care about the couple and their break-up because it was staged as a whim for Mariner to realise that she likes Boimler more.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >randomly
              She quite literally spells out in the first episode she's pansexual who will and has slept with pretty much any gender or species. Its was mostly out of rebellious spite for her parents, but still.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It happened randomly, her sexuality had nothing to do with it. It would have been just as random and shit if it was straight. But it wouldn’t have happened if it were straight because it was only about rainbow marketing and pulling a Korrasami.
                Stop defending this crap just because it’s gay. The gayness makes it more obnoxious but it’s hardly the root problem. The problem is the writer making random Barbie dolls cramming their faces together because he’s a gigantic hack who wanted cheap publicity.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                They never would've done it if it weren't for "fans" pointing it out. Blame people like Wil Wheaton and Jesse Gender.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It would have been just as random and shit if it was straight. But there wouldn't be threads about it because it wouldn't be culture war then.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >most obnoxious gay shit
          >lasted less than 15 minutes
          You're more sensitive than the gays

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      why wouldn't she be?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anon wants Mariner to set up a threesome with Pike and Uhura, as Roddenberry would have intended.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's what the hu-mons call an iced cream sandwich. They have an entire meal based around sweets, you know.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thought she pansexual

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >pansexual
        Just like Korra. Still is considered a dyke because that’s what they put the most emphasis on

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          She was straight for 99% of the show though. You're the one obsessing about her figuring out guys are worthless and saying that was the focus

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >guys are worthless
            Is there anything written by millennials that isn’t motivated by hate?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Judging by all the troony and gender hate in this thread, no.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, McMahan is not writing this one.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thank God

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >No, McMahan is not writing this one.

        Asking out of curiosity, does this man put gay stuff in all of his works?

        There's This show and also Solar Opposites too

        Is McMahan gay himself? Or is he just really trying to appease the LGBT crowd?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >does this man put gay stuff in all of his works?
          He wrote the Rick and Morty episode where Jerry cheats on Beth with a man.
          >Solar Opposites
          Haven't watched it.
          >Is McMahan gay himself?
          No.
          >Or is he just really trying to appease the LGBT crowd?
          Yes. The funniest thing about this is that one of his coworkers on Solar leaked a conversation where he made some homophobic jokes in the writers room. So it's two-faced pandering motivated solely by the desire to get some publicity and make a name for himself as the "inclusive" writer. An average anon here is probably less homophobic than him, the difference is that he’s good at keeping up appearances.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >He wrote the Rick and Morty episode where Jerry cheats on Beth with a man.

            Gonna need you to be more specific there

            Are you talking about Sleepy Gary or...?

            >Haven't watched it.
            The 2 main characters (pic related) are both guys in a relationship but they also cheat on each other quite frequently (or is it an open relationship? Like hell if I know) but they're also aliens so maybe their idea of marriage is different from the norm.

            >Yes. The funniest thing about this is that one of his coworkers on Solar leaked a conversation where he made some homophobic jokes in the writers room. So it's two-faced pandering motivated solely by the desire to get some publicity and make a name for himself as the "inclusive" writer. An average anon here is probably less homophobic than him, the difference is that he’s good at keeping up appearances.

            So he's not much different from Justin then? Interesting

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Yes. The funniest thing about this is that one of his coworkers on Solar leaked a conversation where he made some homophobic jokes in the writers room

            Can I get sauce on this? Sounds hilarious

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.cbr.com/solar-opposites-showrunner-accused-homophobic-comments-hulu/

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >cbr

                Damn I was hoping it be Twitter drama

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >does this man put gay stuff in all of his works?
          He wrote the Rick and Morty episode where Jerry cheats on Beth with a man.
          >Solar Opposites
          Haven't watched it.
          >Is McMahan gay himself?
          No.
          >Or is he just really trying to appease the LGBT crowd?
          Yes. The funniest thing about this is that one of his coworkers on Solar leaked a conversation where he made some homophobic jokes in the writers room. So it's two-faced pandering motivated solely by the desire to get some publicity and make a name for himself as the "inclusive" writer. An average anon here is probably less homophobic than him, the difference is that he’s good at keeping up appearances.

          Wrong board

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mariner and.. Boimler? I thought no one cared about those two?
    Where’s that blue dyke, McMahan!? You told me that’s what everyone wanted to see instead of that boring het shit.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Mariner and.. Boimler? I thought no one cared about those two?
      Only because Jack Quaid is a Hollywood superstar. Rest assured, Mike McMahan will continue the woke subversive bullshit in his cartoon realm.

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    is she going to be a lesbo in live action too??

    Mariner and.. Boimler? I thought no one cared about those two?
    Where’s that blue dyke, McMahan!? You told me that’s what everyone wanted to see instead of that boring het shit.

    rent free

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sass won't bring back Anheuser

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >discussing the topic at hand? RENT FREE!!!!!!
      Your handlers really need to update your scripts, Shareblue bot.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Look at all the deleted posts ITT. The shill is malding because people are calling out the gay agenda.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          This thread feels fake af
          I can’t tell if Cinemaphile is just naturally full of trannies, or there’s some leftypol Discord raid, or they’re actual shills. There’s no way someone would dedicate so much time to defending gay shit in media and spam reports to get rid of the most inconvenient posts.

          This. Most people here dropped the show at the first sign of it going bad.
          The fifty fans who remain are actively into woke shit that’s why they’re comparing their bottom of the barrel lesbian shit to the groundbreaking and genredefining social progressivism of TOS. I don’t know what they’re doing on Cinemaphile but it is what it is.

          Dedicating so much time on a show you hate is equally pathetic

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            They don't have anything better to watch

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              They could've watched old Trek and left it at that.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >people are calling out the gay agenda.
          How's that been working for you, senpai? Less gays in tv recently?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            It won’t happen overnight, but all those lay-offs and cancellations and financial losses signal that the woke fad is over. What is happening in Florida is just the start.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Most of the canceled shows were heteroshit though. Proof the people are tired of it

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The topic was "lower decks in real life", not lesbian shit.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well, Lower Decks decided to do lesbian shit at the exact moment the lesbian fatigue kicked in. Those are the results.
          Then again, the show is a collection of rehashed adult animation tropes, and it feels like a show from mid 2010s, so lesbianism was obviously going to happen.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            So we have hetero fatigue and lesbian fatigue. Whats next?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >hetero fatigue
              You’re an interesting mix of mental illness and entitlement.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >our shoehorned boring badly written romance subplots are... LE GOOD!

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why is Schmigadoon there?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >women and men getting together and fulfilling their biological roles?
                >IM GOING INSANEEEEE
                Tolerance was never enough for you; you want gayness to be the new normal, and the only way to achieve that is to dismantle the traditional male/female order.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                This but unironically. Showing straight people in love is good and healthy, showing gay shit is bad. Keep seething.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Based.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            What does any of that have to do with live-acton?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              If you want to be a pedantic ass, live action belongs on Wrong board. But Paramount would have a harder time shilling there.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                The topic was "lower decks in real life", not lesbian shit. So why didn't you lead with "Wrong board"? Why were you so desperate to make the conversation about lesbian shit and not lower decks in real life?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lesbian shit is part of Lower Decks and forever will be. What are you lashing out at me for??

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                What does that have to do with Lower Decks in real life? Why are you forcing this lesbian conversation? Why don't you focus on other things?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I’ll do you one better: why is Hollywood forcing lesbian shit in all cartoons nowadays???

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Why are you forcing this lesbian conversation?
                You should probably ask Lower Decks writers this exact question lmaooo

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mikes nepobaby rant makes more sense now

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Mikes nepobaby rant
      qrd?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Guy who plays Boimler, is Dennis Quaids son

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lower decks soup

    Soup

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    > invade people's private spaces

    Dude, this is fricking Star Trek. ToS had american television's first onscreen inter-racial kiss. Decades later, DS9 had the first same sex kiss.
    Star Trek has *always* been very socially progressive. Of all of the franchises to b***h about including LGBT stuff, trying to claim that Star Trek has been invaded by wokeness is a fricking farce. The Federation has always been liberal gay space future.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It used to tell a story, anon, instead of just throwing gay shit at its gender-confused audience.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're just angry and lashing out, a dog trained to bark in anger the moment you see a rainbow. There is literally nothing objectionable that has been done with Mariner and Jennifer's relationship, and I defy you to cite otherwise.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ToS had american television's first onscreen inter-racial kiss.
      It wasn't voluntary in-show, they were forced to kiss for the villains' amusement through telekinesis. That's a far cry from all the gay shit we see nowadays.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        This. At least the gay shit in DS9 served a purpose in the story instead of just being lazy and hamfisted rainbow pandering like in LD.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Due to the racism of its time period the writing had to give a convoluted reasoning for the kiss so IT DOES NOT COUNT

        Holy cope

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The Federation has always been liberal gay space future.
      Post Scarcity-Socialist gay space future. The economics of Star Trek are such that Ferengi are considered weird for being capitalists still.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      What a shocker. Fake fans looking for shit to complain about.

      wait a minute dont this live action show in particular is suppose to be like a prequel while lower decks take place after new generation?

      I think they're not supposed to be the same characters but are just the VAs doing a cameo

      Are you both moronic? This is Star Trek. Just about every iteration has involved time travel at some point. And yes they are literally the same characters which we have known since it was announced. IIRC the episode is even supposed to have animated bookends in LDs style.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >you MUST love forced lesbian shit otherwise you’re not a real Star Trek fan
        Sigh…

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I dont really care about that. But when I say I dont care like I actually dont care about it. I have no interest in relationship stuff at all for that matter as someone who has never been dated, rejected literally thousands of times, and has entirely walked away from that aspect of life. But it hasn't really detracted from my enjoyment of these shows at all. It's just there. Nothing about this seems worth complaining about or even really acknowledging. It's not that aggressively focused on in the show. especially not as much as it by you guys lmao

          I'm not sitting here complaining that my sci-fi space travel show has relationshiphavers and sexhavers in it. I dont even think about it at all except when directly relevant to the plot.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >been rejected literally thousands of times
            Yikes. Maybe lose weight?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I actually used to lift for years. I also played soccer and took ballet when I was younger. And I walk 45 mins each way to and from work.

              I definitely do not need to lose weight and have never been overweight.

              But I do have autism and schizophrenia and I'm told that is related to my difficulty. Anyway that's off topic. I was just illustrating my indifference toward any kind of relationship stuff in the show not just gay stuff.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why can’t you be normal? Why does everything written by millennials has to “own” someone or be rage bait?

                Thought she pansexual

                Wrong board

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lower Decks is Co, Deal with it.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                This ain't Lower Decks
                It's Strange New Worlds
                Get your eyes checked

                >pansexual
                Just like Korra. Still is considered a dyke because that’s what they put the most emphasis on

                bump

                Yo all I said is I dont care and try to just pay attention to aspects of the show I am interested in of which there are still plenty.

                And if it was then it failed since the only people I've seen talking about it are the morons in this thread

                She was straight for 99% of the show though. You're the one obsessing about her figuring out guys are worthless and saying that was the focus

                Wrong board

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                The characters are frtom Lower Decks and the people in this thread are primarily discussing something happened on LD.

                How about you fricking have a nice day instead homosexual i wishi could fricking shoot you in your fricking face holy shit

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's a live action adaptation of a cartoon. DCEU and Mceu still get talked about here. There's even 5 lil mermaid threads up right now posted by racist trying to pretend the movie is a flop

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >racist
                How is pointing out racialbait outrage casting racist?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Star Trek has *always* been very socially progressive.
      TOS used to make thought provoking commentary of subjects like racism as a seamless part of the plot. Now you got Rafe giving Picard shit about his privilege in post-scarcity society, limitless energy, and a replicator on every corner by a dead-beat mom hooked on space-crack.

      Frick off.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Good luck talking any sense to a paid shill.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Star Trek has *always* been very socially progressive.
          TOS used to make thought provoking commentary of subjects like racism as a seamless part of the plot. Now you got Rafe giving Picard shit about his privilege in post-scarcity society, limitless energy, and a replicator on every corner by a dead-beat mom hooked on space-crack.

          Frick off.

          >Now you got Rafe giving Picard shit about his privilege in post-scarcity society
          Actually, you don't.This isn't what happens in this scene and you are just parroting complain of people who don't actually care about the show.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The whole point of Star Trek straight from Rodenberry was to be a vehicle for globohomosexual prpoganda. It was even originally going to be exclusively acted, recorded, and broadcast in esperanto, the failed globohomosexual language

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >muh globalhomo
        Nationalism is a fricking mental illness

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I know you're not necessarily a fascist/nationalist but isn't it interesting some people find "weakness" to be disgusting that's such a foreign concept to me in this specific case because I do get disgusted thinking on people like Jeff Bezos and in your particular case I'm sure you find "globohomo" disgusting

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    All you had to do was have no life, replace it with product and go into debt over it, chud.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where is this from?

    Also while I'm here is there any news for season 4 of Lower Decks any planned release?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Last I heard it was set to release this summer, exactly what date tba.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Since the goal is to replace Trek with Trek it'll probably start a short while after season 2 of SNW. Hopefully after that we'll get Prodigy.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      upcoming strange new worlds/lower decks crossover

      Season 4:

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think they were renewed for season 5 as well

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >strange new worlds/lower decks crossover
        Aren't they separated by like 110 years?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Time travel via transporter.

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    So you admit you can't do it. I accept your surrender.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    wait a minute dont this live action show in particular is suppose to be like a prequel while lower decks take place after new generation?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think they're not supposed to be the same characters but are just the VAs doing a cameo

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I think they're not supposed to be the same characters but are just the VAs doing a cameo

        Cartoons invading live action.

        >Live long and prosper, Mr. Boimler.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        see

        Cartoons invading live action.

        They wear the Ceritos uniform and Spock calls him Boimler.

        wait a minute dont this live action show in particular is suppose to be like a prequel while lower decks take place after new generation?

        This is Star Trek. Time travel, alternate universe, holodeck shenanigans, you be the judge.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        same uniforms anfn Spock says Boimler, crossover announced for like a year now.
        are you moronic?

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >aside from the fact that it shouldn't even exist.

    yeah pretty pointless to have them date for a few episodes in a season and the dump Jennifer in the last episode. kinda like saying "here's your gay romance, OH NO JENNIFER WAS IS BAD GF she deserves to get dumped, right?"

    and it worked there was no public outcry for the dump of the gay couple and Paramount got away with it

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >there was no public outcry
      probably because there aren't that many alphabet people and everyone else was just rooting for this garbage excuse for a romance to go away.
      and despite the fact that queers are an irrelevant portion of the audience they still decided to pander to them for whatever fricking reason and alienated literally everyone else

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    yeah they justify this by saying "star trek was always woke"

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    You'll always be a virgin

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Woah there, anon! With witty comebacks like these I could confuse you for a Lower Decks writer.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I'm the first person to call out people being crybabies about dumb shit, but making fun of someone being upset at a shitty reboot feels weird when the first notable thing she did was be on the news to talk about someone running some kind of hack on her in GTA Online.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    The most dedicated hardcore fanbase that kept Star Trek alive back in the late 60s and through the 70s were gay-shipping fujos. You literally are posting in a thread for a franchise that appeals to gays and women.

    • 10 months ago
      Oldfa

      >The most dedicated hardcore fanbase that kept Star Trek alive back in the late 60s and through the 70s were gay-shipping fujos.
      No, they were merely the most annoying but statistically amounted to a rounding error. They did not meaningfully sustain the fandom and in some cases brought the wrath of Roddenberry down on them (realistic fanart of Kirk and Spock fricking in costume and ears had to give way to what amounted to Shatner and Nimoy in regular hair and mundane getups).
      You weren't there, don't make up shit.

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >muh woke culture
    you homosexuals have no other thing to fight over

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      How about you gays stop ruining shows and movies for a change?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      We care because you care anon.

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Trekkies are as ill as weirdos on twitter

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    okay, how about you turn off your television and make your own shows?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You know, with all those shitty woke writers on strike, maybe we'll actually see some good writing on television.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        AIs will be programmed to write the same garbage but slightly better

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Yes, and the straights also had an agenda these past 50 years, totally. moron.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the straights also had an agenda these past 50 years
      Has it occurred to you that maybe... heterosexuality is the norm and 99% of people are heterosexual? And despite that, most girls in cartoons are now lesbians (or some other flavor of queer) now.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Look at all the hypocrites in this thread

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      If shills are gonna shill, the next best thing is to keep calling them out on it,
      For example, the lesbian apologists ITT

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >ignores actual shill threads to bump this one
        You're not as smart as you think

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he thinks I'm bumping

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thank-you for your support

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >all these dudes salty their ship is non-canon

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Or maybe people are just tired of every cartoon shoving gay shit down their throats? And it's always the same kind of gay shit. They never do gays, it's always lesbians.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's funny that it's always the sexually charged language of shoving things down your throat. Kinda makes it sound like a wishlist rather than a complaint.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >sexually charged language
          No, you're just a pervert. Like most yuricucks.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They never do gays, it's always lesbians.
        You say that like you gay obsessed gays haven't spent the past year screaming about how Superboy is gay.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, it’s Superman who’s gay, not Superboy. After being raped in a cave by an evil version of his father for 7 years. Very progressive.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >muh gay rape fantasies

            Yes we know you can’t stop thinking about such things, you keep reminding us every week

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        worse than that, it's always some DRAMA
        but it's not drama bout being a homo, noooo that is always instantly accepted, even on not-star-trek shows where it makes no sense.
        no the drama is about I DONT KNOW IF I WANNA BE IN A RELATIONSHIP WAAAA I CAN'T HANDLE COMMITMENT
        every fricking show. it's almost like putting two emotionally unstable people into a couple doesn't work.

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    more like third world deck

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It burns!

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I hate this thing so much im gonna go find every source of it i can so make a collage of it and spread it
    holy frickig shit the schizo levels

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can't handle facts?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        more like cant handle the logic. The sheer number of non-same sex relationships in media easily eclipses same-sex ones even with the recent uptick . Plus most here probably hevent even watched those shows and were never going to regardless of gay stuff so whats the point?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The sheer number of non-same sex relationships in media easily eclipses same-sex ones even with the recent uptick
          This isn't even close to being true.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >admitted to not watching any media
            Why are you here?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Idiot. Anything with a straight character in it it going to shoehorn in a romance subplot, doesn't matter if it's comedy, action, horror. 99% of characters are straight, 90% of those characters are regularly in relationships. 99% of parents in media are straight.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >99% of characters are straight, 90% of those characters are regularly in relationships. 99% of parents in media are straight.

              99% of all humans on earth are straight.
              Okay, maybe 98.6% of all humans...I just rounded up.

              By the way...according to recent stats, queers are over-represented in Hollyweird.
              The number of queer characters on TV & movies is over six times greater than the number of queers in real life.
              And yet it's still not enough for the likes of you, is it?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                The only thing weirder than getting assmad over this kind of thing is having all those statistics.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Provide evidence.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Trust me, bro. Why would I lie about an agenda I'm trying to push?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can't handle facts?

      Reminder that the EAT DA POOPOO preacher got ironically arrested for possessing gay porn
      That is all

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >trying this hard to haha gotcha
    also do i need to get the left handedness chart?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not a gotcha. If LGBT persons make up less than 5% of the population, why would they be overrepresented in media?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        People who go on wacky adventures every week also make up less than 5% of the population, why are they so over represented in media?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >there is one gay couple on a starship with hundreds of people in it
        >somehow this is overrepresentation

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          CROSE ENOUGH!

          any representation is overrepresentation. tv's job is to entertain, not represent people.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Cry more.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why are men over represented in media when they’re less than half of the population?

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >actress is much cuter in "no make-up" make-up and "natural" hairdo than in her usual make-up and hairdo
    many such cases

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just realised live-action Mariner basically has her flashback hairstyle

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    This show fell off bad.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      A normal person remembers it as the best DS9 episode since the 90s

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >best DS9 episode since the 90s
        Dedicating half of the runtime to a lame lesbian book club sideplot will surely guarantee that it goes down as a classic and totally won't age horribly when the woke fad fades away.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      As someone actually watching the season now, this was a very minor aspect on the episode, which was entirely about the lower decks trying to impress another crew. Her bisexuality was not the main plot of that episode.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't bother. Haters never argue about this show in good faith.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          People defending it don’t argue in good faith either.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was, I think, a big part of that episode, but not in the way being complained about, specifically the difference between Babe Jennifer and Werewolf Jennifer showing Mariner's insecurities about relationships and Boimler, correctly, suggesting she go back into therapy. Still just a part of the episode. Outpost scientists being buttholes has become a recurring theme, but Tendi's science officer training complete with her telling the captain to shut up. With Boimler doing the same in the finale some of this season is arguably the Lower Decks learning to stand up for themselves. They're growing. It will be interesting to see if Mariner actually sticks to the lesson she learned or if she backslides into chaos and self-sabotage again. Another good line from this episode was Boimler telling Mariner it's good to see her with a girlfriend instead of her usual destroying everything she touches.

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >it's the fans fault for not liking The Last Jedi!
    >you've ruined discussion of Star Wars by bringing up how shitty is
    Sigh...

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The new season of Barry took a turn

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why am I still opening these!?

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >le everyone who le likes what le I le don't is le shill
    Or you're just a whiny little b***h baby.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bro, you could at least try to blend in.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      NtA but even Tawny Newsome, Mariner's VA, hated that they forced her character into a lesbo book club story when everyone got to have fun with DS9 stuff. If McMahon had kept them together like the original plan then Newsome would be a whiny little b***h too.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty sure Newsome didn't care about the gay, it was the lame b story while everyone else got to have a DS9 adventure since DS9 is her favorite Trek and even part of Mariner's backstory. She had to fight just to get the final scene where Mariner was at Quarks.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty sure Newsome didn't care about the gay, it was the lame b story while everyone else got to have a DS9 adventure since DS9 is her favorite Trek and even part of Mariner's backstory. She had to fight just to get the final scene where Mariner was at Quarks.

        Her scene with Quark was great though.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think it helps to remember that Mariner self-identifies as a free-spirit Kirk-style badass she, as with everything else in her life, overcompensates so romance wise she's gone to plaid past Kirk and into Captain Jack Harkness territory. With her penchant for bad boys, bad girls, bad binars, bad non-binary babes I'm surprised she's never dated any megalomaniac computers, though wouldn't be surprised if she actually had.

          It's kind of weird that Quark still doesn't know it was Kira who put his head on her body. Maybe he thinks it was Odo? The constable does have a sense of humor, like the time he and Quark convinced O'Brien and Bashir that they weren't back to their original size after the shrinking Runabout incident.

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i prefer animated mariner.

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Source?
    >inb4 read the thread
    Skimmed it, seems like a shitshow. I rather wait for some answers.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cartoons invading live action.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like the usual Nu-Trek piece of shit

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          If it’s any consolation, Paramount is a dying company and the WGA strike put their production in limbo. This era of Trek could end pretty soon.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Good. Hope it takes the whole era of woke American media with it.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Go woke go broke
            Good riddance

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Kurtzman’s WokeTrek finally coming to an end
            Christmas came early.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's a SNW crossover

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's Strange New Worlds doing a live action crossover with animated show Lower Decks.

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Star Trek fans now are the type of people who complained about the interrecial kiss back in the original series.

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]
    Star Trek fans now are the type of people who complained about the interrecial kiss back in the original series.

    I can't believe this sort of blatant disingenuous nonsense is still being parroted. There's leagues of difference between the true multiculturalism featured in TOS to ENT and the blatant virtue signaling that we get now.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, it's the same "people are people" stuff it always was, you're just a bitter old c**t.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      People who think Paramount doesn’t shill their crap on Cinemaphile are delusional and should have witnessed the aggressive Dungeons and Dragons campaign when the film flopped.
      The shills aren’t allowed to criticize the show’s LGBT aspects, which is why they all come off so phony. Look at the lengths some posters ITT go through to defend Star Trek’s worst romance just because it’s gay instead of just admitting it was shit and made the show worse which would help them blend in.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        You say shills
        I say yurigays

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Anon there's absolutely no way a regular person would want to see girls kissing girls, such thing can be only the result of corporate spies infiltrating Cinemaphile.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            You’ve got a point: we should just replace all relationships in media with lesbians. Who cares about good writing, make my dick hard with CalArts stick figures kissing.

            Frick off, you deplorable coombrain.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I’m pretty sure regular people are tired of this crap being pushed everywhere

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              This feels pretty disingenuous given there were so many gaping, festering wound problems with the Willow series and two chicks kissing wasn't really it. This is a high fantasy world they tacked modern (mostly cover) music to. This is also a series where Willow pulls a flamethrower out of his butt and when another character demands to know what it is he actually says, "Don't worry about it," it never shows up again and if it had shown up earlier he might have saved his friend from being killed.

              It was a goddamn train wreck and I'm so glad it was cancelled, even if the guy behind it claims it's just on hiatus. Frick that.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It’s the same principle of a show opting to do lazy LGBT pandering for publicity’s sakes. In Willow’s credit, it at least attempts to flesh out the relationship instead of just having it be there and demanding to be praised for it. Lower Decks reached a whole new level of laziness with its rainbow pandering.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Mariner being omnisexual is established very early on. I'm not sure why people freaked out about it. It's like you were told for years that wood is flammable then when you see your first forest fire you start flipping your shit out.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Lower Decks reached a whole new level of laziness with its rainbow pandering.
                It was a short sex-gag in one episode, and a small part of a b-plot in another. It wasn't pandering. Of all the faults with modern Trek Mariner's lesbian shit is real low on the list.

                >Reddit is literally saying that Star Trek is in another Golden Age
                Even as someone who hates /misc/, I really fricking doubt that when SNW is basically the only really good show they're putting out right now. Not to mention the movies being non-existent.

                Doesn't the main sub ban everyone who speaks out against STD? Didn't they also get troony Reddit mods to delete the "hateful" second Trek sub where people who got banned were allowed to complain about modern Trek? I guess that's what gays get for using Reddit.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >troony
                Frick off leave

                Lower Decks is pretty fun and Picard season 3 is allegedly good, but yeah, this is no TNG/DS9/VOY.

                This is how I feel about it. SNW is mostly good, LD is hit or miss, and Prodigy and PIC S3 are both supposedly good. But I mean, when's the last time we even had a really new idea in Star Trek anyway?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous
      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >People who think Paramount doesn’t shill their crap on Cinemaphile are delusional and should have witnessed the aggressive Dungeons and Dragons campaign when the film flopped.
        Or maybe they just wanted the D&D movie to be successful so that there would be more D&D content, but that would be cuhrayzee.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Most American LGBT content just doesn't jive with me. I'm a gay who'll cry his eyes out over BL manga, but I just have no desire to see spunky lesbians or bearded brown men.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm a gay who'll cry his eyes out over BL manga
          Lmao, which BL manga do you like?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      In terms of representation, there really isn't. TOS and TNG were the "woke" shows at the time, you're only upset about the new ones because you are living on this moment in time. If you were the same age back in the day you'd also be seething about these shows you love. Embrace it, you've become the enemy.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      There is literally, LITERALLY no difference. That was the entire point you casual homosexual.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It wasn’t virtue signalling then but it is now!

      There is literally no difference between the two other than you’re watching the new stuff today and getting triggered by the latter because of your brain worms. This “old good, new bad!” mental gymnastics song and dance is so fricking tiresome.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I love postmodern moral relativism. 10 years from now it’ll be “Making Mariner a lesbian is just the same as having Zardoz admitting he’s attracted to children you conservative bigot!”

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >attracted to children
          The correct nomenclature is minor-attracted person (MAP), chud.

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nice

  38. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >all those deleted posts
    Some yuricuck’s big mad because his favorite show got called out

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Or just shills trying to damage control.

      Anon there's absolutely no way a regular person would want to see girls kissing girls, such thing can be only the result of corporate spies infiltrating Cinemaphile.

      Cinemaphile is tired of the lesbian agenda. Try harder.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Or just shills trying to damage control.
      [...]
      Cinemaphile is tired of the lesbian agenda. Try harder.

      >troll posts deleted
      >continue trolling

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Keep reporting if facts bother you so much.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I don't need your permission, sweaty.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        People calling out lazy agenda-driven writing is not trolling. Imagine being so fragile because people won’t let you circlejerk about jerking off to cartoon girls kissing.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wwweeellllll, the mods disagree, sssooo...

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Looks like the mods don’t disagree after all. Some janny, likely noncisgender, abused his authority to delete inconvenient posts and since no one got banned they’ll likely get fricked for abuse of power when this comes out.

  39. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    DaAAayyyuummm Tandy got some fricking photon torpedoes.

  40. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Reddit is literally saying that Star Trek is in another Golden Age
    Even as someone who hates /misc/, I really fricking doubt that when SNW is basically the only really good show they're putting out right now. Not to mention the movies being non-existent.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lower Decks is pretty fun and Picard season 3 is allegedly good, but yeah, this is no TNG/DS9/VOY.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Picard season 3 is allegedly good
        No, no it was not. Shit on the Changelings (you can stab them to death now), shits on the Borg, shits on the characters you love, throws out nostalgia chum while killing several old characters once they'd achieved nostalgia, and the plot generally makes no real sense. The best you can say is that it's better than the first two seasons. That's such a low bar not even Odo can squeeze under it.

  41. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Transfacists try to spin that the messages of old trek are the same as the shot we get now.
    Some old trek definitely try to get you to think about things in certain ways, but for the most part it was for the audience to think for themselves.
    Nowadays, these writers don’t even hide that they want you to think like them or you’re deemed to be literally hitler.
    And as someone stated, multiculturalism and accepting others despite disagreements or differences of the past is different than the current special treatment special people need.

  42. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're the only good looking part of the entire trailer

    I liked season 1 well enough, but this looks like it's taking all the shit I hated from it and running with it and leaving all the actually decent stuff behind.

    Frick Kurtzman, that fricking hack

  43. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >no Tendi
    This is bullshit

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dude, you do not want Tendi anywhere near Pike. He gets near that sweet little green icing cinnamon roll and next thing you know he nabs her for his secret farm where he breeds Orion green animal women. I mean what do you think happened to Doctor Boyce? HE KNEW TOO MUCH.

  44. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    He was Ben Shapiro the whole time?

  45. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    This thread feels fake af
    I can’t tell if Cinemaphile is just naturally full of trannies, or there’s some leftypol Discord raid, or they’re actual shills. There’s no way someone would dedicate so much time to defending gay shit in media and spam reports to get rid of the most inconvenient posts.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The fans of this show consist mostly of the Twitter pronoun crowd so they’re being 100% earnest

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        This. Most people here dropped the show at the first sign of it going bad.
        The fifty fans who remain are actively into woke shit that’s why they’re comparing their bottom of the barrel lesbian shit to the groundbreaking and genredefining social progressivism of TOS. I don’t know what they’re doing on Cinemaphile but it is what it is.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Looking at the IP count, I suspect it's mostly one, very active leftypol shitposter who has a burning drive to bathe in chudly tears so much that he's precumming in his panties at the though.

      There's probably one dude here out trawling for shit to make a youtube YELLING ABOUT POLITICS video of some type as well.

      Don't sweat it. Just don't let lunatics of any political stripe let you think they hold anything beyond their own emotional baggage.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Like you haven't been stalking this thread the entire time.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          LOL. The thread has been up for hours, and at least two thirds inane b***hing in circles. It glows almost as hard as a Rippa thread.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      bump

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm actually coming out of a big lurk because I hate how we're always repeat the same talking. ok so plenty of people here really like this show (and also hate it) both sides talk at nauseum fighting each other and that's why the up count can be low.
      Yet even without infighting like in this thread they move and are healthy.
      There's a catalog for you to see.
      I predict that by the time you finish reading you'll be thinking well it's still a failing product because it's woke full of gay shit and my god are you annoying to me because you think like that.
      A concession I'm giving you is that an sizable and loud part of Americans feel like that but that doesn't mean there's people who like the show and who are not some stereotype like shill or other npc your brain puts on in.

  46. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >insert lesbian shit into the show with the subtlety of a sledgehammer
    >”noooooo! why are you discussing the forced lesbian shit?!”
    lol

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >trying to derail discussion of a show with lesbian shit because it had it for a second
      People that troll dyke-ra and owlgays thread don't try this hard

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >had it for a second
        Enough to poison the entire show and all discourse surrounding it. This always happens when a nerd thing gets turned into a wokefest by activists.
        Get used to it.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You been b***hing all thread to bring attention to yourself. Don't pretend like you have the high ground

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      What does that even mean? What the frick does a relationship need to be subtle for?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >girl is suddenly gay for a background extra because background extra saved her life
        This would be considered cliché and forced in 2011, but LD got away with it in 2021 because it made it gay™.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >cliché and and forced
          it would be considered ‘problematic’ if a strong woman fell for her male savior

          Lesbian privilege strikes again

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, it’s actually toxic as frick because it introduces a power imbalance to the relationship, but it’s gay so it’s okay. Frick this show lmao

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              no no there’s no power imbalance because lesbian couples are always healthier than straight couples

              oh wait..

              >Between 24% and 90% of lesbians report being psychologically abused by their partners. https://mainweb-v.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Kirk fricks everything
          >this is fine
          >Riker fricks everything
          >this is fine
          >Mariner fricks one thing
          >WORLD ENDING I'M GOING TO START A HATE BLOG

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Kirk fricks everything
            Tell me you haven’t watched TOS without telling me you haven’t watched TOS.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Kirk was actually more reserved than Picard and kept insisting that his lady is the Enterprise, but you’d have to watch Star Trek to know that.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Leftists have an unfortunate tendency to shit all over everything and then they get really upset when it backfires against them.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just like Jan 6

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Take it to pol, or leftypol or just the frick of Cinemaphile, you tellarite, and take the idiot you're arguing with as well.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      see [...]
      [...]
      [...]
      [...]

      >girl is suddenly gay for a background extra because background extra saved her life
      This would be considered cliché and forced in 2011, but LD got away with it in 2021 because it made it gay™.

      Except there was nothing forced about it. It's just a main character dating a secondary character and it's no more forced than how it was done when it happened in Friends.

      Seeing you have failed to point out any actual bad writing, your complain is invalid. there was nothing wrong with Mariner dating Jen.

      The argument is that you can get away with bad writing as long as it’s gay. If that’s bigoted to you, grow some balls.

      But for that, there has to be actual bad writing in the first place. You have failed to establish so, therefore, you have no valid reason to complain.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Female character falling for a savior is not only cliche, it’s problematic. This wouldn’t fly if it weren’t gay and you know this.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Female character falling for a savior is not only cliche, it’s problematic
          No, it's not. You have failed to make a valid complain.

          >This wouldn’t fly if it weren’t gay
          MCU Spider-man has saved Michelle Jones several times already.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >No, it's not.
            Of course it is. Good deeds aren’t rewarded with relationships, it’s an incel mindset to think so. But it’s suddenly okay if it’s two girls.
            >MCU Spider-man has saved Michelle Jones several times already.
            MJ fell for Peter Parker, not Spider-Man.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Good deeds aren’t rewarded with relationships
              Doesn't mean it's forbidden either. You fail to make a point.

              >MJ fell for Peter Parker, not Spider-Man.
              And? She already knew he was spider-man.

              You have failed to establish any bad writing, you have no valid reason to hare Lower Deck.

              • 10 months ago
                sage

                >Doesn't mean it's forbidden either.
                It’s toxic as it introduces a power imbalance into the relationship. It suggests that one party owes the other their life, ergo they should reward them with a relationship. It’s a toxic trope for a reason and the show would get cancelled if it portrayed a strong female character falling for a random male extra because he saved her life.
                But it’s okay when girls do it!

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >sage go in all fields

                >as it introduces a power imbalance into the relationship.
                Nope.
                >It suggests that one party owes the other their life
                No, it doesn't.
                you have failed to make a point, you have no valid reason to complain about Lower Decks.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Nope
                >No
                >It doesn’t
                Amazing arguments.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't need to provide arguments when yours are "because I say so".
                At no point is there any indication it's an obligation that they date, therefore, you have failed to make any actual complain and thus have no valid reason to hate Lower Deck.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I am telling you that it wouldn’t fly if a strong female character randomly fell for random male character because he saved her life.
                You know this, I know this, everyone knows this.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It’s a toxic trope for a reason
                It never was toxic. There are zero indication she dated her because she felt obliged to do so.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >zero indication
                It’s a catalyst for the relationship, so this goes beyond indication or implication, fren.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It’s a catalyst for the relationship
                Thank you for recognising she never acted under any obligation. Also

                I am telling you that it wouldn’t fly if a strong female character randomly fell for random male character because he saved her life.
                You know this, I know this, everyone knows this.

                >I am telling you that it wouldn’t fly if a strong female character randomly fell for random male character because he saved her life.
                1) it's not the reason Mariner fall in love with Jen, she already had feeling beforehand
                2) Stating speculations as fact will never make you win an argument. See

                >Of course it is. Good deeds aren’t rewarded with relationships, it’s an incel mindset to think so. But it’s suddenly okay if it’s two girls.

                You have failed to make an actual critic, you have thus no valid reason to hate Lower Decks.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >she already had feeling beforehand
                That’s speculation. No evidence in the show. Unless you’re going to argue that assaulting and insulting someone is a romantic gesture which it’s objectively not.

                Again, falling for a savior is a toxic trope and it wouldn’t fly if they weren’t women. It’s a recognized toxic trope which is why Disney is rewriting the story of Snow White to get rid of it.

                Try harder, LGBT apologist. I’m sure you’ll get there eventually.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >That’s speculation.
                Mariner outright said so.
                You still have failed to establish she dated her because she felt forced to do it.

                >Again, falling for a savior is a toxic trope
                there is no bad tropes, only bad executions. You fail to make a point.

                >It’s a recognized toxic trope
                Source: your ass.

                >which is why Disney is rewriting the story of Snow White to get rid of it.
                see

                >Of course it is. Good deeds aren’t rewarded with relationships, it’s an incel mindset to think so. But it’s suddenly okay if it’s two girls.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Mariner outright said so
                Quotation required.
                >there is no bad tropes, only bad executions. You fail to make a point
                It’s a bad execution then and most people agree on this.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You bring up a good point.
                It’s made even more toxic by the fact that they had a rivalry. It suggests that a strong female character falls for a bad person just because that bad person saved her life. Femcel fantasy.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >just because
                Seeing it's not Just because, you fail to make any valid point and this have failed to explain why this episode was bad.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It’s a recognized toxic trope which is why Disney is rewriting the story of Snow White to get rid of it.
                So you have short-term memory problem. MCU Spider-Man save MJ several times.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Spider-Man saving her wasn’t the catalyst for them dating. MJ liked Peter, not Spider-Man. He saved her as Spider-Man but it didn’t make her like him more because she didn’t know it was Peter.

                Being a secret hero doesn’t help Peter Parker score chicks. That’s the whole deal with the secret identity and having to reconcile those two worlds, you do understand that right?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >MJ liked Peter, not Spider-Man.
                >Being a secret hero doesn’t help Peter Parker score chicks.
                She already knew he was Spider-Man. And Mariner already had feeling for Jen beforehand. You fail to make a point.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >And Mariner already had feeling for Jen beforehand
                You’ll have to provide examples to support your argument.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Mariner outright said so
                Quotation required.
                >there is no bad tropes, only bad executions. You fail to make a point
                It’s a bad execution then and most people agree on this.

                >Quotation required.

                >It’s a bad execution then
                You have failed to establish that.

                This but unironically. Showing straight people in love is good and healthy, showing gay shit is bad. Keep seething.

                Based.

                >Based.
                Not really, it doesn't establish gay relationships are bad.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Is that your video? What am I supposed to do with it? I asked you to provide examples.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Is that your video?
                It's a video.
                >>What am I supposed to do with it?
                Recognise Mariner say she already had developed attachment to Jennifer before Jen saved her.
                >I asked you to provide examples.
                You are welcome.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Recognise Mariner say she already had developed attachment to Jennifer before Jen saved her.
                Citation needed. Provide a quote or a scene that proves this, it should be simple to do considering just how convinced you are in your own argument. Otherwise it looks like you’re just imagining things.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Citation needed

                you have failed to make a valid critic against Lower Decks thus have no objective reason to complain about the show.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, you just linked the video again. I asked you to provide a citation.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Anon, you just linked the video again
                You are welcome. Aren't you glad I provided exactly what you asked for?

                you have failed to make a valid critic against Lower Decks thus have no objective reason to complain about the show.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I asked you to provide the exact quote or scene that proves your argument.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are welcome.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, you’re going in circles. You claim that a character had an attachment for the other character prior to the life saving thing. Provide a quote that proves this. It should be simple. I fail to see how your video is relevant.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Provide a quote that proves this

                You are welcome.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, you just linked the video again. It’s three minutes long. I asked you for the exact quote.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >has been arguing about a rescue scene for several hours and doesn't look like stopping
                >can't watch a three and half long minutes video

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why can’t you just a provide a quote to support your claims?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Anon, you’re going in circles.
                you are the one asking again and again something you have already been provided to you several time.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I asked for a quote which would prove your argument. There’s lots of talking in that three minute video, you’ll have to be more specific.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I asked for a quote which would prove your argument.
                And you have been provided an answer. Make you wonder why you keep complaining.

                >There’s lots of talking in that three minute video, you’ll have to be more specific.
                LoL

                >has been arguing about a rescue scene for several hours and doesn't look like stopping
                >can't watch a three and half long minutes video

                I see you continuing to keep asking the thing you have already been provided for more than 10 minute now, I'll consider that you have recognised the point.

                Why can’t you just a provide a quote to support your claims?

                Why ask a question only to refuse to see the answer?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Provide the quote. Goddamn it, anon. It shouldn’t be that hard.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It shouldn’t be that hard.
                And watching a 3 minute video is?
                left
                You have 7 minute remaining to address the video before you defacto admit defeat.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I didn’t ask you for a video. I asked you for a quote, anon.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I didn’t ask you for a video.
                You asked for a proof that Mariner had attachment for Jen before she rescued her. You have been provided.
                5 minutes remaining.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Please specify the exact scene and quote in that video that proves your claim

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can argue for hours about a rescue scene, you can watch a 3:38 minutes long video.
                3 minute remaining.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have no obligation to watch anything outside of this thread. I expect you to provide exact quotations and explain them in your own words.
                Otherwise we’re just going in circles because you refuse to provide evidence.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's not a matter of obligation, anon, YOU are the one who asked for proof. I have no obligation to watch.

                You don't want to watch it, fine, but bu doing so you forfeit any legitimacy in denying Mariner had attachment for Jennifer prior her rescue.

                Your time is out, by refusing to look a the proof, you can no longer be considered genuine when you deny this attachment prior to the rescue. Thank you very much.

                You have failed to establish any valid criticism against this show.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                The burden of proof is on the person making a claim, anon. You’re either too lazy or you know that providing an exact quote would destroy your argument in an instant. Which is why you refuse to argue like a normal person. You know your position is weak and you’re trying to pressure me into playing by your rules and finding my own arguments in favor of the relationship having any setup, which is not my job here.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The burden of proof is on the person making a claim, anon
                And I have provided the proof:

                You are welcome.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Provide the timestamp then. Give me something to work with. Do you expect me to watch the scene of Mariner shoving people out of her way and treat that as romantic set up?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Provide the timestamp then.
                you time is up. you can no longer deny in good faith the pre-existing attachment.

                you have failed to make a valid critic against this episode thus have no objective reason to complain about the show.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You don’t get to decide when my time is up, unless you’re out of time yourself. You’ve failed to construct a solid argument.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You don’t get to decide when my time is up,
                But Everyone get to see you are acting in bad faith on this argument.

                You have failed to make a valid critic against this episode thus have no objective reason to complain about the show.

                Mariner shows attraction for many people across the show. This scene makes a valid argument for Maribarnes, consider that Mariner called her hot back in the pilot. It’s not proof of her having any attachment to blue buttcheeks.

                Thank you for recognising Mariner was attracted to Jennifer prior to her rescue.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Everyone get to see you are acting in bad faith on this argument
                Everyone got to see you being a lazy ass coward who’s afraid to provide examples himself and instead resorts to posting YouTube links and won’t even elaborate on the contents.
                >Thank you for recognising Mariner was attracted to Jennifer prior to her rescue.
                I didn’t say that.

                >But what about attraction?
                Too vague to make a solid case.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Too vague to make a solid case.
                Really? What other reasonable interpretations could there be there though? Because that was the only simulated sex scene that Mariner didn't react negatively too.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >What other reasonable interpretations could there be there though?
                Naked women are nice to look at. She’s into Barnes. And so onz

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >She’s into Barnes.
                Don't try to argue as a fact that she is only into barnes and not in Jen.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don’t have to, she literally says it in the first episode of the show. The only thing the scene illustrates that Mariner is into women.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >she literally says it in the first episode of the show.
                And?
                Still do'nt try to argue as a fact that her attraction is ONLY to Barnes and has nothing for Jennifer.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Because if that was the case there would be some kind of evidence.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                That you recognised yourself. Thank you.
                And when you claim that she was ONLY attracted to Barnes, YOU are the one who have to prove there was no attraction at all for Jennifer.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >She’s into Barnes.
                Don't try to argue as a fact that she is only into barnes and not in Jen.

                Can I just say that my one criticism about Marijen is that we didn't get enough of it because what I wanted is for Mariner to run into the fact that Jennifer comes from a culture where polyamory is the norm and have an episode where drop hints about who she wouldn't mind taking in as a third with Barnes being one that dazes her the most.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Everyone got to see you being a lazy
                I am not the one literally complaining for hour about a rescue scene yet refusing to watch a 3 minute long video.

                >I didn’t say that.
                You explicitly referenced the blue cheeks.

                >Too vague to make a solid case.
                A solid case of what?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I am not the one literally complaining for hour about a rescue scene yet refusing to watch a 3 minute long video.
                Anon, what do you expect me to take away from this video? That’s it the most random and mishandled relationship in all of Star Trek? Because it’s definitely great for that.
                >You explicitly referenced the blue cheeks.
                I said that the scene is not proof she has any kind of attachment to the blue dyke.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >That’s it the most random and mishandled relationship in all of Star Trek?
                How do you take that from this video?
                >I said that the scene is not proof
                The mention of Blue Cheeks by Mariner is not in that scene.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >That’s it the most random and mishandled relationship in all of Star Trek?
                We have Picard falling in love and breaking up with a woman in a single episode after they have played flute and Piano together and that woman is never seen before and never seen again.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Indeed. It’s a great and touching episode with a very believable relationship. Back from the days when writers cared about telling a story instead of just pushing gay shit.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                thank you fro recognising there was nothing wrong with how Jennifer and Mariner were written and ended up in a relationship.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You’re so desperate for a gotcha. It’s sad.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I am not the one trying to argue to argue a relationship was badly written while providing zero evidence of it.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                The characters have nothing in common. They don’t talk even while they’re supposedly in relationship. We never find what they see in each other. We’re just told they like each other for some reason.
                If this is good writing to you, you’re a shill.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The characters have nothing in common.
                Subjective opinion
                >They don’t talk even while they’re supposedly in relationship.
                It's a main character dating a secondary character, many sitcom have similar dynamic, you fail to make a point. This isn't bad writing, this is pretty standard.

                The writers never claimed it was a big and important relationship and it's only on you to believe it is so.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >We never find what they see in each other.
                Well that's not entirely true as there is an episode from season 3 that shows that Jennifer like Mariner's wild card nature...but we later learn on there's a limit to what Jen will tolerate and how actually that quality about Jennifer ironically clashes entirely with marinee's character arc of season 3 of learning to curb her hotshot maverick ways

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                But while I can admit the exection of this idea was clunky and ultimately something the show decided to call quits on but instead of wishing it never happen I'm wishing they give Jennifer and Mariner another chance. Was Jen too harsh on Mariner? Yes. But Mariner is exactly the kind of person who would put her feet in her mouth and just keep talking, it's something even her mother easily believed. And while Jennifer may not have that kind of benefit of the doubt with Mariner like her mom does I still feel like we were left out of a cute couple with Jennifer and Mariner.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >girls hate each other
                >girl saves the other girl
                >girls suddenly want to frick
                If you ignore everything that was wrong with it, then sure nothing was wrong.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Is there something wrong with it?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                suddenly want to frick
                >suddenly
                you have already established yourself that there was attraction beforehand, anon. you fail to make a point.

                You have failed to make a valid critic against this episode thus have no objective reason to complain about the show.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                you have already recognised that Mariner had prior attachment to Jennifer, you fail to make a point.

                >you have already established yourself that there was attraction beforehand
                No, I haven’t. It’s just you being separate again.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >No, I haven’t
                you were given ample time to watch this video and didn't. your bad faith on this argument has been established.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, call me bad faith if it makes you feel any better about your inadequate reasoning skills.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                you have already recognised that Mariner had prior attachment to Jennifer, you fail to make a point.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                What do you mean by attachment? They weren’t even friends prior to the S2 finale. I don’t think they ever were friends.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >What do you mean by attachment?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                How many times are you gonna post that video? I asked you a question. I want you to answer in your own words.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >How many times are you gonna post that video?
                Every time you ask that question, seeing it provide the answer for it.
                >I want you to answer in your own words.
                You do'nt get to make the rules, anon.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >seeing it provide the answer for it
                Okay, what’s the answer? Describe it.
                >You do'nt get to make the rules, anon.
                I’m not making any rules. You want to argue with me, argue with me.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Okay, what’s the answer?

                >You want to argue with me, argue with me.
                you are the one who asked for proof, anon.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, there’s nothing in the video that indicates emotional attachment so I don’t know why you keep posting. It just makes your argument look silly.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Anon, there’s nothing in the video that indicates emotional attachment
                Ah, so arguing in bad faith, I see.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >who’s afraid to provide examples
                You have been provided repeatedly. Now everyone can see you are lying.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You’re either too lazy
                Say the guy who won't watch a 3 minute long video.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Dude, it’s not my job to find proof for your own arguments.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Dude, it’s not my job to find proof
                good thing you didn't need to find it and it was provided to you, then.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but putting a countdown on your ‘victory’ is pathetic tbh

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Please consider the context:
                Anon's complain there

                Anon, you just linked the video again. It’s three minutes long. I asked you for the exact quote.

                is that it's a 3 minute long video. If he has the time to complain for 10 minutes about how he won't watch a 3 minute long video, he has the time to watch that 3 minute long video.

                If he doesn't, it's reasonable to conclude he is not arguing in good faith.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Of course it is. Good deeds aren’t rewarded with relationships, it’s an incel mindset to think so. But it’s suddenly okay if it’s two girls.

  47. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It should be impossible for a show’s fanbase to be made up entirely of militant queers but here we are.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >made up entirely of militant queers
      and you’re wondering why it chose to pander to them

  48. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fake fans
    Real subtle, Paramount intern.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >fake outrage
      Real subtle incel-kun

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >incel
        Ah, every corporate shill’s favorite insult. You couldn’t be more predictable. Insult the fans more, I’m sure it’ll be good for your business.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >doesn't deny being an incel
          >just gets upset someone pointed it out

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            There’s no use in denying something when the other person already made their mind. It just detracts from the argument.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I bet you fish for that trip.
      In any case I fundamentally don't like your posts.

  49. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    huh weird but fun idea, I'll check it out.

  50. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >incel
    >lgbt is here to replace you
    >people are tired of heteroshit
    holy shit this is an actual leftypol raid lmaoooo

  51. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    *ahem*

    You will never be a real woman. You have no womb, you have no ovaries, you have no eggs. You are a homosexual man twisted by drugs and surgery into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.

    All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.

    Men are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed men to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even trannies who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a man. Your bone structure is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk guy home with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your diseased, infected axe wound.

    You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.

    Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Your parents will find you, heartbroken but relieved that they no longer have to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. They’ll bury you with a headstone marked with your birth name, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a man is buried there. Your body will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a skeleton that is unmistakably male.

    This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.

  52. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are all these people defending lesbian shit ITT lesbian trans women? It sure feels so.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >lesbian trans women

  53. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >another one for the list of shows that can never discussed on Cinemaphile
    Way to go, autists. How does it feel to be among the likes of Twelve Forever, WITCH and Kevin Spencer?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe millennial writers should stop writing politically divisive shit on purpose despite every fiber of their being telling them otherwise

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe you should stop being triggered by it

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Triggered? Fatigued. All cartoons have lesbians now and people are beginning to get tired of it.

          Personally I can’t wait for the time companies finally stop pandering to the Twitter pronoun crowd because they’ll realize it’s losing the money.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You won't have a grave stone

          Triggered? Fatigued. All cartoons have lesbians now and people are beginning to get tired of it.

          Personally I can’t wait for the time companies finally stop pandering to the Twitter pronoun crowd because they’ll realize it’s losing the money.

          Wrong board

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Cinemaphile
            More like

            [...]

            or

            [...]

            .

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Why can’t you be normal? Why does everything written by millennials has to “own” someone or be rage bait?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Back to >>>Cinemaphile with you
        Lower Decks belongs there with the rest of you nerds

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >politically divisive shit

        Having gay characters is not divisive. Nor is trans characters. Majority of the country is fine with gay people. You are just a triggered bigot obsessed fighting culture wars on the most stupid shit possible.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he still doesn’t understand that this is not about gay people

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he
            My pronouns are she/they.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he still doesn’t understand that this is not about gay people

          >he
          My pronouns are she/they.

          I am the person you're responding to. I dont care about the gay agenda. Or your/any agenda. I said in another post I actually have no interest in relationship stuff at all. In fact I skip stuff like sex scenes in media but I understand I'm not who it's there for.

          It also doesn't detract from my enjoyment because it's literally not the focus. It's just there and I dont really think about it at all unless it's directly plot related so it baffles me that it existing period is so triggering to you guys. It's literally nothing and you could easily ignore it as I do or just watch something that aligns with your interests and sensibilities more. That seems logical to me. You're acting like a baby and making it seem deeper than it really is.

          Considering half of the DS9 episode was wasted on lesbian book club shit, yes, it’s intrusive and obnoxious.

          They did this on purpose. It was a calculated publicity stunt

          Wrong board

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Having gay characters is not divisive. Nor is trans characters.

          Actually, for the vast majority of the population of this planet, it is.

          You’re just too provincial and insulated to realize it.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            California thinks the world revolves around it. That’s why they keep putting black people in fantasy and medieval Europe settings.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            California thinks the world revolves around it. That’s why they keep putting black people in fantasy and medieval Europe settings.

            The silent majority is not a thing, it's a Republican rhetoric that tries to placate bigots that everyone else thinks like them so voting to imposing 2nd class citizenship on black and gay people is morally ok.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Nah, people are just tired of you gays bending culture and society to your will. That failed Hogwarts Legacy boycott taught you nothing.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Show me a person on the streets who actually agrees with you and I'll show you that it still doesn't matter because your solution to never show queer people in fiction is ridiculous and has no value in of itself.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You’ll be in for a rude awakening next year.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh is that a threat or something? Like you're implying you know something that's gonna come down the bend that will make me regret not being a bigot?
                You still having your day of rope fantasies anon?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, you're totally gonna elect Clone Hitler next year and then you'll show us. God, you're pathetic.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Just like in 2020 there was meant to be a huge red wave due to all the anti-trans fearmongering the right was concentrating on and instead you got a tiny puddle at best?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Show me a person on the streets who actually agrees with you and I'll show you that it still doesn't matter because your solution to never show queer people in fiction is ridiculous and has no value in of itself.

                Your supposition that any focus on gay people is bad writing has no rational argument for it, you can only vaguely imply that more bigots exist and therefore have an entitlement to never see gay people least they spend all their mental energy whining about it.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                see

                >girl is suddenly gay for a background extra because background extra saved her life
                This would be considered cliché and forced in 2011, but LD got away with it in 2021 because it made it gay™.

                >cliché and and forced
                it would be considered ‘problematic’ if a strong woman fell for her male savior

                Lesbian privilege strikes again

                Yeah, it’s actually toxic as frick because it introduces a power imbalance to the relationship, but it’s gay so it’s okay. Frick this show lmao

                no no there’s no power imbalance because lesbian couples are always healthier than straight couples

                oh wait..

                >Between 24% and 90% of lesbians report being psychologically abused by their partners. https://mainweb-v.musc.edu/vawprevention/lesbianrx/factsheet.shtml

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you can only vaguely imply that more bigots exist and therefore have an entitlement to never see gay people least they spend all their mental energy whining about it.
                Like I said...

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >bad writing bad
                >bad writing but gay good

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can attack bad writing without being a bigot.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                The argument is that you can get away with bad writing as long as it’s gay. If that’s bigoted to you, grow some balls.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                The argument is that you can get away with bad writing as long as it’s gay. If that’s bigoted to you, grow some balls.

                >bad writing happens everywhere all the time
                >but when bad gay writing happens, I have to blogpost and spam every single thread about it because... BECAUSE I JUST DO, OKAY?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                But Hogwarts Legacy has a trans character in it?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                It does so it makes you wonder why bother pandering to those people if they vilified the game anyway.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Tell me you’ve never travelled outside of California without telling me. Try visiting Asia, the Middle East or Africa dressed up as a women and see how that goes for you.

              Or are they just backwards brown people and your western colonialist culture and values superior to theirs?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Tell me you’ve never travelled outside of California without telling me
                I don't live in California but also what trying to say that I should respect you for being a more "civil" bigot is jist highly illogical as the statement is an implicit threat suggesting that you can essily become a violent bigot if you so choose.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                The vast majority of heteronormative concepts in the global South were imported by Europeans.
                Pre European contact, Africa had man-wives and woman queens, the mid east had like seven genders and the Pacific ocean and South Asian were full of gender non conforming genders such as Faʻafafine and kinnar.

  54. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    lower decks if he real

  55. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I miss the days when cartoons were just cartoons and not political statements, bros.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I miss s1 and s2 threads They were so comfy
      McMahon ruined everything

  56. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Either this is a shill thread or this place has turned into Reddit.

  57. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >yuricuck
    it's Jilcoschizo doing his usual samegayging spamming rant about lesbians even when people don't talk about them.
    he is on a constant crusade to poison every thread with overt bad faith just to kill every legitimate discussion.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's Jilcoschizo doing his usual samegayging spamming rant about lesbians even when people don't talk about them
      What a chad

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I guess there’s only one person on this whole ass board who’s tired of lesbians. Let’s pack it up, boys. We lost. Trump lost. It’s over.

  58. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >They want you to make the inference so they can just write you as a yurigay with heavy shipping goggles.
    Looks like that assessment would be correct.

  59. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    So you do admit that there is no outright confirmation of attraction in the show prior to the rescue scene. Very well, thank you for your time. We’re done here then.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >So you do admit that there is no outright confirmation of attraction in the show prior to the rescue scene
      He is not the person you were arguing with anon. I was. And here is your confirmation that there is:

      You are welcome.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >So you do admit that there is no outright confirmation of attraction in the show prior to the rescue scene
      No I don't actually because I have a hard interpreting Mariner's reaction as anything but sexual interest in seeing a naked Jen making out with a naked Barnes.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Mariner shows attraction for many people across the show. This scene makes a valid argument for Maribarnes, consider that Mariner called her hot back in the pilot. It’s not proof of her having any attachment to blue buttcheeks.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Mariner shows attraction for many people across the show
          Agreed.
          >It’s not proof of her having any attachment to blue buttcheeks.
          But what about attraction?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            The scene implies that Mariner has the hots for Barnes and is afraid of her nemesis stealing her from her.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Does it?

  60. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Enough about Mariner, how's Boimler?

  61. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can't wait to see Tendi and Rutherford!

  62. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    No one would put this much energy into defending this if it wasn’t gay. More proof of lesbian exceptionalism.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I personally defend it mostly because I like certain aspects of it.
      I really like Boimler's small progress into a more assertive leader and Mariner to stop being so auto destructive. I am what you'll probably claim to be a self inserter because I want Boimler and Mariner to date (but I wouldn't be mad if it doesn't happen), find many characters cute also T'ylin will hopefully fully integrate because it feels like they're almost done with Tendi's progress.
      The show also has plenty of bad things like hit or miss humor, mediocre first few episodes, a bad tendency to return to status quo and inconsistent character progression.
      But overall I really like the show and will defend it from what I perceive as annoying cultural war bullshit with baseless takes and conspiracies

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >No one would put this much energy into defending this
      so, it's our first day on the internet?

      Okay, call me bad faith if it makes you feel any better about your inadequate reasoning skills.

      You are the one complaining about a video being 3 minute long while arguing for hours about a fictional relationship that was never meant to be considered important in the first place.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >that was never meant to be considered important
        One could argue what’s the point in wasting things on unimportant things in a show that gets 10 episodes per year. Of course we know it was important because it was the show’s attempt to capitalize on queer publicity.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >One could argue what’s the point in wasting things on unimportant things
          Character being seen dating is as valid as characters being seen eating and discussing. It's part of the social life on the ship.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Of course we know it was important because it was the show’s attempt to capitalize on queer publicity.
          Everything in Season 3 contradict that statement. It's just portrayed as a normal relationship.

          you have failed to establish any valid critic. You have no objective reason to complain about the show.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's just portrayed as a normal relationship
            I’m curious what what you would consider an abnormal relationship. All queer relationships are portrayed as normal in media, that’s the point.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I’m curious what what you would consider an abnormal relationship
              I didn't meant that anormal was the opposite of it, I meant in contrast to a relationship that is more central to the plot or the character development.
              A more central, important to the plot relationship, given more importance be the show, would be one like Rachel and Ross, or William Riker and Troi, Or Keiko and O'Brian.

              A more normal, non-important relationship would be Bashir dating Leeta, the Dabo girl, or woever Joe is dating for this week episode. Mariner dating Jen belong to this category.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                The lesbian relationship was not played off as unimportant. Jen was not the love interest of the week. It was a continuing season arc and it shall be judged accordingly.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The lesbian relationship was not played off as unimportant
                Yes it was. At most it's a stept for Mariner as it indicate she is ready to let more people enter her life.

                >Jen was not the love interest of the week
                She is tha character a main cast date for a few episode before moving on, like Bashir with Leeta.

                >It was a continuing season arc
                It wasn't an arc, it was just a part of Mariner's social life.

                >And it shall be judged accordingly.
                Then judge it like Bashir and Leeta.

  63. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    You know what I'm tired of people being mad at the show for dumb and wrong reasons.
    I'm mad because they don't know what to do with Tendi because her main flaw is naivete that in my main is mainly over, lack of confidence and clumsiness but like she's the one with the best chances to getting a promotion out of the Cerritos now and it feels like she's earned it.
    I know plenty of us like her but does anyone else feel this way? It could give more room for T'ylin.
    Also I'm not feeling the section 31 plotline.
    Finally I just realized this, and the far better show prodigy, will be affected by the writers strike so that's sad.

  64. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Looking at this thread, the lesbian shit is the worst thing that could have happened to this show

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Millennials are incapable of writing things that aren’t divisive on purpose. It’s the name of the game. They put divisive shit in their shows and watch nerds cannibalize each other.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was not against it but you're right people make this threads much worse

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Millennials are incapable of writing things that aren’t divisive on purpose. It’s the name of the game. They put divisive shit in their shows and watch nerds cannibalize each other.

      >Millennials are incapable of writing things that aren’t divisive on purpose.
      There was nothing divisive about . the people who complain about it are unable to provide a coherent critic.

      Don't blame something on a show for something only the fandom is responsible for.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >nothing divisive about
        It managed to piss off three separate demographics:
        1. People who like Star Trek but aren’t big on woke shit.
        2. People who ship Mariner and that purple gay.
        3. People who like lesbians but were expecting more.
        I’ll give this one a light 9/10 in terms of divisiveness.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >2. People who ship Mariner and that purple gay
          Boims ain’t gay

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >1. People who like Star Trek but aren’t big on woke shit.
          A bunch of self-contradicting moron isn't a significant demographic.
          >2. People who ship Mariner and that purple gay.
          Most people knew it was not a significant relationship.
          >3. People who like lesbians but were expecting more.
          Almost no one complained when they broke up.

          It's just a noisy minority being shown again and again that they are factually wrong.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Whats even woke about the show besides a few characters being gay? Seriously im asking because im on the fence of watching this and a few characters carpet munching doesnt bother me

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Men get kicked in the balls and it’s looked at as a good thing.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I believe nothing else

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Woke doesn't have any real meaning. Some people call a show "woke" for just having a black guy dating a white girl.

            >besides a few characters being gay
            That's all of it, really.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah it's kinda how conservatives find "what's the definition of woman" as a gotcha.
              Well we fill the same with how when we ask the same for woke.
              Both of them don't really have one other than a vibe and I'm perfectly fine admitting that because I somewhat care about a small group of people feeling better and I agree with the vibe definition which is to say there's cases when someone is not a woman because it's just a person not understanding being trans like Chris Chan or Ezra Miller in the case of being non binary (he's told his friends he really doesn't care for it privately) "live and let live" type stuff also before you mention it there are bad people in the LGBT community but the spirit of it is still something I think it's good. A lot of people defend out flawed groups like cops because they believe their spirit or vibe is good difference is that we should be able to quickly make cops better and anti legislation against LGBT people and other conservative stuff is what I consider to be bad. The way I see it cops should not get so many guns and should be restructure to have higher standards and training also media sensationalizes what inability happens (a bad cop) but there seems to be evidence that there's problems to be fixed regardless of that.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            A female Starfleet captain assaults a male commander who started hitting on her. It was stunning and brave.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Black lesbian constantly dunks on a white dude.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just watch Prodigy instead. It’s overlooked but it’s so much better. And you won’t have to worry about any woke in it aside from a non-binary gas alien.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I fricking despise the character designs in this, no thank you

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                But soulless CalArts stick figures with bug eyes don’t bother you?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                At least i can fap to plaentina and tendi, anon

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                No taste

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                At least i can fap to plaentina and tendi, anon

                Gwyn is fricking hot. In Top 10 Trek girls, easily.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your loss

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              First good post ITT

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Forget about Lesbian Trek for a minute, when is S2 of this coming out?

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not soon enough + writers strike:(

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Isn’t Prodigy covered by the Animation Guild? And aren’t only the Hagemans under a WGA contract? Besides, S2 is already written.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              We need to get a comfy thread for this sometime. Lower Decks discussion is too tiresome.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Janeway is to out of character, the Kids are still alive at the end.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Barely.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Man they really are Prodigy's if they survive Janeway.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's not totally woke Mariner is way over the top to the point that makes her annoying and some Pro GURL POWAAH but not much some times Secondary stories with in the Episode are way better then Main character plot. So its a solid 7/10 but resent season was pretty good.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not pissed off though even though I do fall under 2&3.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I do fall under 2&3.
            It's true, most people both ship the gay ship and the Mariner/Boimler ship.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I just have an intense desire to see Mariner getting kissed and cuddled by cute people.

  65. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is lower decks worth watching? Ive jerk offd to the green slave girl before

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yes! But only if you like generic animation, unfunny jokes, memberberries, and cartoon lesbians.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        NNNOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, THE COMEDY IN THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE... BECAUSE IT JUST IS, OKAY?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          it was actually funny

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you like trek shows and more specifically Next Gen, yes. This anon there

      Yes! But only if you like generic animation, unfunny jokes, memberberries, and cartoon lesbians.

      is a moron.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It only appeals to two demographics:
      1. Trek nerds who like references to obscure lore
      2. Twitter pronoun crowd who watch it for queer rep

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I likes the first two seasons
      One thing I found great in the writing is that it does sitcom comedy hijinks but keeps the utopian ideals of Star Trek. There are sections where in other stories there would be a misunderstanding for forced conflict but they just ...talk things out. It's refreshing. It shows you can do comedy without needing to have a bunch of characters be buttholes (not saying there is anything wrong with Sunny In Philly style humor but it's refreshing to see the reverse)

      Every character has there personality flaws but almost everyone is a genuinely good person who keeps the best interests of others in mind.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      That depends do you have a massive stick up your ass?
      Do you like the movie Galaxy Quest?

      If you answered no to the first and yes to the second you may like it.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don’t insult Galaxy Quest like that

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          It wasn't an insult, both are satirical takes on star trek the only difference being that lower decks is actually set within the star trek franchise.

          The only complaint I keep hearing people give about Lower decks is based in this weird idea that star trek can't be a comedy and HAS to be 100% serious at all times which is ridiculous.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Trek always had comedic elements.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              Exactly

  66. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hope Tendi's and Rutherford's make up is good. I'll hate if they treat them badly here.

  67. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >IRL Mariner will never be your GF

    Sad.

  68. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Paramount stock is down 10% since this got unveiled lol

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Should have invested in the rising incel market myself. Could have made a killing in self-help books telling people about basic hygiene: Your toothbrush and you, why you do need the soap, deodorant is your friend. Money on the table.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Guess you’re just a shitty investor.

  69. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    At least Prodigy is still good

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It’s unfair that the Rick and Morty cartoon is getting all the attention because PRO is a freaking gem.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It helps that the writers aren’t spiteful morons.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      it deserves a live action episode

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I would cum buckets if they made Gwyn real.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          it deserves a live action episode

          They wanted the Ahsoka audience…

  70. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >see lower decks thread
    Neat hopefully they have a release d-
    >MFW thread

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Release date? Hopefully never.

  71. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What a pathetic thread. Stay on Cinemaphile next time, homosexuals.

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