Lucasfilm Boss Kathleen Kennedy Says A Lot of Women in Star Wars Struggle With Fan Attacks Because of the Fan Base Being So Male Domina...

Lucasfilm Boss Kathleen Kennedy Says ‘A Lot of Women’ in ‘Star Wars’ Struggle With Fan Attacks ‘Because of the Fan Base Being So Male Dominated’

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/kathleen-kennedy-star-wars-toxic-fans-women-attacked-1236019098/

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In a new interview with The New York Times for the upcoming “Star Wars” series “The Acolyte,” Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy said she is aware that women in the space franchise are often attacked online more than men “because of the fan base being so male dominated.” Female stars Daisy Ridley and Kelly Marie Tran certainly faced online harassment from toxic fans when the most recent “Star Wars” film trilogy was released, and now “The Acolyte” is already being attacked in certain corners of the fandom.

    “The Acolyte” is an original story created by Leslye Headland that’s set long before the events of “The Phantom Menace.” Headland, known for directing films such as “Sleeping With Other People” and co-creating Netflix’s hit comedy series “Russian Doll,” is the first woman to serve as showrunner of a “Star Wars” series. Her show includes major new female “Star Wars” characters played by the likes of Amandla Stenberg, Carrie Ann-Moss, Jodie Turner-Smith and more.

    As reported by The Times: “A loud, primordial part of the ‘Star Wars’ fandom has pushed back in predictable fashion [against the show]. ‘Why are there so many women, girls and minority characters increasingly dominating the ranks of Jedi?’ reads a comment on ‘The Acolyte’ trailer, with others expressing a similar worldview…Some trolls have nicknamed Headland’s series ‘The Wokelyte.'”

    “My belief is that storytelling does need to be representative of all people,” Kennedy told the publication about her support for Headland’s “Acolyte” vision. “That’s an easy decision for me.”

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      “Operating within these giant franchises now, with social media and the level of expectation — it’s terrifying,” Kennedy continued. “I think Leslye has struggled a little bit with it. I think a lot of the women who step into ‘Star Wars’ struggle with this a bit more. Because of the fan base being so male dominated, they sometimes get attacked in ways that can be quite personal.”

      Headland has already started to limit her exposure to online chatter about the show to block out any of the toxic fans, and the show hasn’t even debuted on Disney+ yet.

      “As a fan myself, I know how frustrating some ‘Star Wars’ storytelling in the past has been. I’ve felt it myself,” she said. “I stand by my empathy for ‘Star Wars’ fans. But I want to be clear. Anyone who engages in bigotry, racism or hate speech … I don’t consider a fan.”

      “The Acolyte” premieres June 4 on Disney+.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      “Operating within these giant franchises now, with social media and the level of expectation — it’s terrifying,” Kennedy continued. “I think Leslye has struggled a little bit with it. I think a lot of the women who step into ‘Star Wars’ struggle with this a bit more. Because of the fan base being so male dominated, they sometimes get attacked in ways that can be quite personal.”

      Headland has already started to limit her exposure to online chatter about the show to block out any of the toxic fans, and the show hasn’t even debuted on Disney+ yet.

      “As a fan myself, I know how frustrating some ‘Star Wars’ storytelling in the past has been. I’ve felt it myself,” she said. “I stand by my empathy for ‘Star Wars’ fans. But I want to be clear. Anyone who engages in bigotry, racism or hate speech … I don’t consider a fan.”

      “The Acolyte” premieres June 4 on Disney+.

      They're not even pretending to not have an agenda. Remember the days when libtards would say "there's no liberal agenda"? in an effort to gaslight you?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      “Operating within these giant franchises now, with social media and the level of expectation — it’s terrifying,” Kennedy continued. “I think Leslye has struggled a little bit with it. I think a lot of the women who step into ‘Star Wars’ struggle with this a bit more. Because of the fan base being so male dominated, they sometimes get attacked in ways that can be quite personal.”

      Headland has already started to limit her exposure to online chatter about the show to block out any of the toxic fans, and the show hasn’t even debuted on Disney+ yet.

      “As a fan myself, I know how frustrating some ‘Star Wars’ storytelling in the past has been. I’ve felt it myself,” she said. “I stand by my empathy for ‘Star Wars’ fans. But I want to be clear. Anyone who engages in bigotry, racism or hate speech … I don’t consider a fan.”

      “The Acolyte” premieres June 4 on Disney+.

      she's right.

      she's not branding anyone specifically a sexist (e.g "you're sexist if you don't like rey") but rather speaking about how the fanbase does have a lot of sexists in it

      of course, the usual cope defense is "W-WELL HOW CAN I BE SEXIST IF LIKE THESE FEMALE CHARACTERS!" acting as if the issue is just to do with sexism towards the characters and not the people making it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I entirely accept the fact that I'm a sexist. I'm super racist too. Not too fond of the Islamic or israeli religions either.

        But the fact remains that my preferences are what they are, and the more a movie diverges from my preferences, the more I'm going to dislike it and the people who made it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          At least you're honest.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Some trolls have nicknamed Headland’s series ‘The Wokelyte
      Anyone heard this before?

      [...]
      she's right.

      she's not branding anyone specifically a sexist (e.g "you're sexist if you don't like rey") but rather speaking about how the fanbase does have a lot of sexists in it

      of course, the usual cope defense is "W-WELL HOW CAN I BE SEXIST IF LIKE THESE FEMALE CHARACTERS!" acting as if the issue is just to do with sexism towards the characters and not the people making it

      Seen this shame tactic before, doesn't work.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Anyone heard this before?
        No. They just make it up, like they do all the persecution bullshit. No one's angry and this dogshit anymore. No one cares. The viewing numbers will tell the story.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want to cum on her face. Not reading your post though.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's not really it. The problem is Star Wars fans are incredibly entitled because they've been raised on escapist fantasy that spoonfeeds them exactly what they want without ever challenging them or asking them to earn it. Always panders, never attempts to enlighten. The no girls allowed sign on the clubhouse is just one of the many symptoms of that problem. If you make a cottage industry out of infantilizing your audience, this is where you end up.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >leia
      >padme
      >mara jade
      >jaina
      >bastila
      All popular female star wars characters.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Interesting how you took my post which was disagreeing with OP as an endorsement of OP for some reason, also as if you have the reading comprehension of a third grader

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The no girls allowed sign on the clubhouse is just one of the many symptoms of that problem.
          Despite there being popular female characters in multiple different pre disney eras and iterations of star wars.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I particularly love the scenes where they languish in skimpy bikinis until they are saved by male characters.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So it's accurate to real life?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >they
              Didn't that only happen once? Also didn't she ultimately strangle her captor to death?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>mara jade

        No one knows or cares about your moronic fanfiction EU slop, you moronic redditor.
        "Popular" is an egregious overstatement.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The whole article is about the fan base's reaction to females characters. Who do you think read the eu and played the Lucas arts games if not the male fans she hates so much? You stupid frick.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cope, Disney Wars doesn't have a single female character as popular as any of them and never will.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Woke garbage characters

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you seem like a redditor talking out of his ass with your bullshit

      plain simple the disney movies make no sense and are bad stories along with their shitty tv shows. no one cares about enlightenment from frickign star wars except maybe 10 fat nerds which are negligible.

      the nu wars media are simply dogshit

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the disney movies make no sense and are bad stories
        So they're like every Star Wars movie ever made then

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Delicious bait. Entertainment that makes you earn it! Hell yeah sister.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A good film should strive to be more than just entertainment.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Which movies really made you earn your entertainment? How much earning is enough? Do they pay out dividends and would Warren Buffett recommend investing in them?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >this is where you end up.
      Where? Girls don't get it for free either? That the people who buy the most of product X get to have the most say?

      What point are you trying to make, moron.

      Why should you, someone who doesn't gaf about Star Wars have ANY say in how it's handled or delivered to it's long-term value-sustaining customer base?

      What would you do if Apple suddenly decided that soi-boi homosexual redditors aren't allowed to use iphones? Or soi-central redit itself decides that the innumerable soi-bois snuffling around their limited female userbase all trying to become their male feminist ally orbiters is creating a problem for those female users by blocking them from access the occasional stray Chad that wanders in? Or that any time a Chad opens his mouth, 100 sois descend on his words to try to "problematicize" him to drive out their competition?

      The only problem with "incredible entitlement" is (YOU) sois thinking you have the right to access and play gate-keeper on the pussies of online females (who don't want you, and don't seek you out) because "I have the right politics and that makes me a better partner for this woman, even if I have to drive away far more romantically and sexually suitable men".

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >spoonfeeds them exactly what they want without ever challenging them or asking them to earn it. Always panders, never attempts to enlighten.
      I guess this wiener smoking homosexual missed the existence of the prequels entirely.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The problem is Star Wars fans are incredibly entitled
      I'd argue it's the Star Wars execs who are acting far more entitled in this situation.

      They're knowingly making shows and movies that are not what the fans want, then act indignant when the fans point out that this isn't what they want. These people seem to think they have an inherent right to shovel out whatever shit they want and have us all just eat it up happily.

      Hollywood are just entertainers. They should produce what entertains, not something that "challenges assumptions" or "subverts expectations."

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >spoonfeeds them exactly what they want without ever challenging them or asking them to earn it
      Wut?
      It's a movie franchise, why the frick would it not give the audience what it wants?
      How the frick do you "earn" something in a movie?
      It's a passive medium anon...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >leia
      >padme
      >mara jade
      >jaina
      >bastila
      All popular female star wars characters.

      I would also like to add that Nomi Sunrider was considered probably to be the most powerful force user to ever exist in the lore too. These were all female characters that were accepted and celebrated before the disney takeover. It's laziness and spite which is the reason disney has gone about Star Wars the way they have. It only takes watching the last jedi once to see this.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you a handpicked lesbian employee? I wish the creators of this mess would challenge themselves instead of copying what George did 40 years ago and collecting paychecks off investors. It’s not going to last and you’re going to be unemployed.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what if its a cool premise but the original creator sucks at executing a good story?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We call that a Stephen King adaptation.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >My belief is that storytelling does need to be representative of all people
    Awesome. Get rid of chimps and ugly c**ts like Zendaya and Zochee. Thanks.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If the fan base is so "male dominated" why would you make so much content focusing on women?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because they hate you and everything you stand for. Think of it as a spoiled little sibling breaking your toys because you are not paying constant attention to them and doing everything it wants. Thats all its ever been at the end of it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        All of this DEI crap is just the adult version of your little sister taking away your GI Joe toys to have a tea party with Barbie. And if you try to take GI Joe back, Mom and Dad storm into the room and scold you for bullying your sister.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          id stone cold stun my sister if she ever did that ngl

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I agree, let's end the Star wars franchise. No more new stuff Disney.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Funny how men don't complain about the 'Barbie fanbase being so female dominated'

    FRICK OFF KATHLEEN
    OF COURSE MEN LIKE STAR WARS MORE THAN WOMEN, ITS ABOUT SPACESHIPS AND LASER SWORDS AND SHIT
    YOU FRICKING KNOW THIS YOU WORKED FOR LUCAS FOR DECADES
    YOU CAN'T MAKE WOMEN LIKE SOMETHING JUST BY CRAMMING MORE WOMEN INTO IT

    Excuse the rant but the woman is clearly a fricking moron

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But Rey and Jyn Erso are protected by Cinemaphile

    And Emilia Clarke is my wife.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day moron

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No u

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Emilia Clarke is my wife.
      I think your wife died of a brain tumor dude

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        She's alove and well with our multiple children.

        Dumb homosexual.

        I am not a homosexual sex

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're THE homosexual sex

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dumb homosexual.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This b***h is just gaslighting everyone. She knows exactly what she's doing coming into a male dominated franchise and inserting shitty underdeveloped female characters while emasculating all the male heroes. It's all a giant demoralization op from Yidsney. And reminder that this is all because gen x homosexuals lost their shit over Jar Jar. Hope they're happy now.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >And reminder that this is all because gen x homosexuals lost their shit over Jar Jar. Hope they're happy now.
      Not really, no.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes actually. Lucas never would have sold the company if the fan backlash wasn't so insane.
        >Why would I make any more, when everybody yells at you all the time and says what a terrible person you are?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh I wasn't disagreeing, I just meant I'm not happy now. So it was all for nothing.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh I see, my fault. But yeah it's a real shame. At least George is finally getting his flowers now. I hope he knows how sorry most of the fans are for trashing him so hard. We had no idea how bad it could truly get.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If he was a real artist with integrity who believed in his vision, he would never have sold his life's work because he was throwing a temper tantrum at his audience. He's a crybaby manchild just like his fans are. Which explains a lot, really.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >temper tantrum
            Except it was a decade later. You just want to hate him.
            >manchild
            Stop making movies to raise his children for over 10 years
            >chose being with his wife and new baby over spending possibly the last decade of this life making another trilogy.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Except it was a decade later.
              If the statement you used was 10 years later, then guess what? 10 year long temper tantrum.

              Realistically he wanted to sell and only used the opportunity to be mean to his critics while doing it. He wasn't in financial straits, he could have handed control over to a subordinate within his fully functional company or simply not done anything like he did for 30 years. Instead he beelined for the biggest pimp known to be buying IP's left and right and handed over what he described as his own child for a fat paycheck.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >blah blah blah
                No justification for claiming it was a temper tantrum especially considering he did the clone wars show for another 5 years in-between.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah frick that. If I was in his position and so called "fans" were making songs about how I "raped their childhoods" I would want to do anything to spite those frickers too. Star Wars fans deserve everything thing that's happened post Disney sale.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      frick jar jar, frick the prequels, frick kathleen kennedy, frick the sequels, frick the tv shows, frick anything that isn't the OT and EU

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frick em till they're dead boys... frick em till they're dead

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looking forward to continuing to ignore Star Wars, Kathy

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >male dominated
    ie:
    >our mythical non-straight-male audience never showed up
    ergo:
    >this is somehow men's fault

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >“My belief is that storytelling does need to be representative of all people,”
    think of the money shes lost Disney

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Man I love Nu Wars. Who could forget such memorable characters as:
    That rolling ball robot that makes R2D2 noises
    Butthole Eyes, the female Yoda
    Kylie Ren, the female Darth Vader
    Captain Shiny, the female stormtrooper
    Rey Palpatine, the female girlboss
    Um...
    I can't remember the rest right now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My favourite is Leia Poppins

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mine was that blue-haired female admiral Kamikaze

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I don’t buy the Mary Sue thing anyway. I find the term sexist in itself because it’s, ‘Mary Sue’. I don’t think there’s a thing called ‘Ryan Craig’
    >Ridley brought up how "everyone was saying that Luke had the exact same [capabilities]," and she also took issue with the entire notion of a Mary Sue, noting that it's an inherently gendered objection: "The Mary Sue thing in itself is sexist because it’s the name of a woman."

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She's 100% correct about that.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everything she said was wrong

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She’s an idiot. There is a guy version it’s called Gary Stu

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She's 100% correct about that.

      She's not correct because Gary Stu is the term.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gary Stu.
      And Luke had an arc spanning 3 movies.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I find the term sexist in itself because it’s, ‘Mary Sue’. I don’t think there’s a thing called ‘Ryan Craig’
      Of course not. The Mary Sue didn't have a male equivalent before it was coined because male characters aren't written that way. They aren't written that way because there's no concerted push among writers to promote characters like that to promote a reductive reactionary male supremacist worldview. You know, like what created the conditions that resulted in the widespread proliferation of Mary Sues in popular media in recent decades.

      I wish I could say I thought she was just ignorant and not doing this on purpose.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    She's so into the ideology that I bet she deluded herself into thinking that the Rey movie is going to be a success.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ahh sweet an incel thread

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone just needs to stop watching star wars. It's not catering to men anymore so stop watching it?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Haven't watched any Disney Wars since I saw TLJ in theaters. There's literally nothing they could do to win me back after that disaster.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well, why not cater to those male fans instead?

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kek, trying to force a guy thing on girls

    >Victoria's Secret and Sephora have a SHOCKINGLY LOW male customer base!

    bitch

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Personally, I think Rey should wear more latex. It fits the retro-sci fi setting of Star Wars, and she's a Jedi where the tight-fitting rubber material would be better for all the acrobatic moves.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rey should have been naturally drawn to the dark side and watching her fall while Kylo redeems himself would have been a decent plot for the sequels but they couldn’t even pull the trigger on something that would paint a girl as naughty

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I bet her pusy is so sweaty right then, bros

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At what point does criticism become an "attack"?

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah no shit.
    I've never met a woman who liked star wars growing up.
    Also, star wars wasnt all about the movies, as these modern israelites think.
    I remember playing kotor and jedi academy, reading comic books and watching the movies after so much anticipation etc...

    Never came across a woman who liked star wars growing up, so why would that suddenly change now?
    Nobody cares anymore except when we go down the nostalgia lane...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah when I was growing up for every 1 girl who was casually interested in SW, there was at least a dozen male autists who read every single EU novel, played every vidya game, and owned every piece of film merch.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My sisters like Star Wars but only enough to go watch them on release with me and my uncle. My uncle was devastated by the sequel trilogy and he’s not someone who uses the internet. When we went to go se with I could sense how excited he was and I didn’t want to sully it with my info. After the film he immediately says he thought it was really bad but not before prefacing it with “you guys probably don’t agree with me…but…”

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >My uncle was devastated by the sequel
        what a sissy

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah he use to take us to see the prequels and we would watch the OG with him and my Grandma when we were pups. He just thought our bonding got ruined by Disney is all

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >He just thought our bonding got ruined by Disney is all
            ah, then i misunderstood and apologize. I pictured grown man crying for his star wars movies

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Star Wars could have made serious bank if they hired a bunch of Star Wars white male autists to write a scenario.
        They wouldnt even have to pay them the gorillion dollars they paid for the diversity writers....

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >white male autists
          they created EU which is bad at best. SW is shit homosexual universe with three good movies

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Also, star wars wasnt all about the movies, as these modern israelites think.
      It was. EUshit was a grain of sand in comparison. Rounding error. Movies made billions. EUshit made maybe a million. Movies were and always will remain the most important thing that most of the people will see and talk about. Everything else is for moronic consooming stinky nerds who will buy anything with a Star Wars logo.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >EUshit made maybe a million.
        Disney shit maybe.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    NNNNOOOOOO WHY ARENT MEN WATCHING MOVIES WE MAKE FOR WOMEN!!!???!?!??

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So you are telling me after all the female leads, the fanbase is still dominated by men? Seems like women don't support other women

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >leia
    peopel like her because no underwear + jaba slave outfit
    >padme
    no one lieks her
    >mara jade
    no one knows her
    >jaina
    isnt she from lol?
    >bastila
    people only like her because you can turn her to dark side after making wookie kill that twilek girl

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >“As a fan myself, I know how frustrating some ‘Star Wars’ storytelling in the past has been. I’ve felt it myself,” she said. “I stand by my empathy for ‘Star Wars’ fans. But I want to be clear. Anyone who engages in bigotry, racism or hate speech … I don’t consider a fan.”
    What possible bearing could that have on someone being a fan? I would put it to her that she's not a fan considering she has actively tried to dismantle the franchise, the tropes and stories it was synonymous with as well as antagonising and spitting on the fanbase rather than giving them the sort of stories they want.
    Also is she conceding the storytelling from their sycophantic no-talents has been frustrating?

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kek
    imagine being a modern studio exec and being concerned that people are not liking your 'content'
    just hire some more women that agree with you and buy another house for summer use.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >replace tradtionally male roles with females in a traditional male dominated genre
    >give zero fricks about the appearance or capabilities of the actress you hire
    >hire incompetent writers and directors that create absolute garbage stories
    >allow females to do fight scenes without proper training making them and the stunt men they're working with look stupid
    >blame the audience when they rightfully complain

    Kathleen Kennedy b***hes about the audience and yet it's her fault. Star Wars looks like some shit an elementary school would come up with for a 6th grade play.

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