>Luke's all black jacket that he wears all throughout the movie opens at the very end and reveals the white underneath, signifying how despite his struggles with the dark side the light still ended up shining through
Holy fucking kino Lucas I kneel.
Luke actually rushed out of the bathroom after sniffing a ton of cocaine and they couldn't fix his uniform...
Typical Lucas production.
it's an hommage to Hamlet's clothes you imbeciles
Shut up Lucas
Luke was supposed to go to the dark side in the fourth movie, then reveal it was 'to fully know the force' - it would appear to be compelled by the death of his father, but he would be a dark jedi scourge cleaning out the remnants of the Empire. By the end he'd be so powerful as to be able to make the jump to lightspeed as a person, without a ship.
I really like the badass dark Jedi motif Luke has throughout the last movie. I wish we saw more of it that wasn’t CGI deepfake bullshit. Even if he was old. The sequel trilogy is legitimately the biggest letdown in the history of popcorn movies
This. I wasn’t expecting much but they could have at least done our boy Luke better, anything would have been better. They had so much to go from with stories and him being an old badass Jedi who sure could have had some dark still within especially losing everything and everyone. He wasn’t even his own character in the ST everything was so backwards from what he was established as or what the character could have become.
I know it gets talked to death but for good reason. The ST's handeling of Luke is genuinely on the biggest fuck ups in the history of pop culture. It wasn't the fact that they made him sad and depressed it was the way they did it. Absolutely awful writing and a permanent stain on the legacy of one of cinemas greatest franchises.
Thankfully the first 6 films are so good and work as such a cohesive piece that it's quite easy to dismiss anything that follows.
>the first 6 films are so good
jesus fucking christ, the sequels being liquid shit doesn't make the prequels not turds.
Nta but you're just low IQ.
The prequels are and always have been excellent. I've never heard a criticism of them from someone who wasn't a complete fucking mongaloid
I'm a lot smarter than anyone here and I recognize the prequels as bad films. They're a good story told very poorly.
They're not even a good story. Lucas is a hack that got lucky with the visual aesthetics and coasted off that.
>I recognize the prequels as bad films
Why would you so willingly out yourself as a fool? Thinking such a thing as a "bad film" exists only confirms you for a smoothbrained goon.
>I'm a lot smarter than anyone here and I recognize the prequels as bad films.
Not anymore and you are mistaken.
The prequels are trash that soft retcon the OT.
To be quite honest the OT is only good for 2.5 films at best because a second Death Star and Ewoks beating the Imperials are fucking idiotic plot points.
Why is the PT bad?
>Somehow Jedi go from being Generals and War Heroes to being myths
>The Grand Army of the Republic is 5~ million at most...you couldn't conquer Earth with that.
I could get more granular but I honestly don't give a fuck.
Akshually there's millions of clone troopers but the Jedi were small in number and all concentrated in the Jedi Temple on coruscant. Since they were literally a cult or old religion, and there's hundreds of planets out there, it would have been impossible for all those star systems to even take a glimpse at a light saber wielding warrior with magic powers.
What actually stains the prequels is the 3D Clone Wars and all the Disney bullshit where they keep adding more and more Jedi that someone survived order 66. Even Luke talks about the clone wars. Not the Jedi, but the time that literal clones once existed in a great war.
Sources have it as being entirely too small.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Grand_Army_of_the_Republic
There's maybe 500 Navy Seals tops out of a population of 7-8 billion.
No one doubts their existence.
There were 10,000 Jedi. Not one is used as a propaganda puff piece? Not one left and wrote a tell all?
>fandom star wars wiki
I don't go by some autists' retarded head canon but what I saw in the films. The Kamonians already said they were working on millions of soldiers, but you also need to take into account that the star wars world kinda hints that there were no real weapons or armies becuase of the republic union
Bitch nigga can't even get quotes right.
If you are interested in military accuracy and in depth scientific breakdowns of the universe then Star Wars is the wrong franchise for you.
It's funny that you say this when the PT introduces midichlorians and specific numbers for the size of the army.
Maybe Lucas should be a better writer.
>5~ million at most
based on what?
Didn't like the Ewoks when I first saw it, but they kinda grew on me over time. Still weak, but the point that section of the film really goes off the rails is Leia getting lost and becoming Jane Queen of the Tree People instead of being concerned about her fucking mission. I mean it's not totally inexplicable how that happened, but ... meh. I guess at least it gave them somewhere to party after the destruction of Death Star II, and an actually plausible place to see it from, (unlike Disney shit).
There you go. Y'all can at least credit Lucas with a basic understanding of how actual fucking space works.
>>The Grand Army of the Republic is 5~ million at most...you couldn't conquer Earth with that.
you absolutely could. even ignoring the fact they're a space age army so they'd wipe the absolute floor with earth tech, just putting them on the same tech level as the usa they'd curbstomp earth.
>Ewoks beating the Imperials
This isn’t how it happens though, after a small victory at the start the Imperials start smashing them.
The second death star was a diversion meant to group up the entirety of the rebel alliance and wipe them out.
prety fucking expensive diversion
It was always SHeev's plan to have multiple death stars patroling the galaxy. It makes sense to have more than one.
You mean to say
>everyone who doesn't like my favorite children's movie is a mongaloid
Yes, but the same also applies to ET, Jurassic Park, Princess Bride, and The Iron Giant.
In a defender of TPM, but AOTC is hot diarrhea. ROTS is ok. The trilogy is not nearly as good as the OT.
>mongaloid
It’s mongoloid you retarded prequel loving zoomer nagger MORON.
Heh heh. Would weebs be called mangaloids?
Prequeltards always try and worm their bullshit into any serious discussion about the ST being afterbirth.
Prequel apologists think they're accepted now because the sequel trilogy was so fucking bad in comparison. It's kind of pathetic how they try to cling to the OT like leeches when the ST is brought up.
I'd say they're in the middle now by default because the nu trilogy is easily the worst set. Phantom Menace is still pretty bad aside from a few parts though.
She is so goddamn hot. Bros... I am so horny and so lonely
Go out and get laid
Was nice seeing him use force choke as well so casually when entering Jabas palace to save Han.
He really does come across as Vader-lite when entering Jabba's Palace.
Yeah that honestly freaked me out as a kid because "wtf that's what Darth Vader does!!! Who the fuck is this??" Then it's Luke all in black and you're like holy shit has this nigga gone dark side?
I've legitimately seen people here claim luke was never using the dark side in rotj and that he just won his fight with Vader without tapping into it.
I thought the point of the ending of ROTJ was that Luke taps into the dark side and uses his anger to defeat Vader but returns to the light when he sees the damage he's done to his father (and how his father did that same damage to him) and chooses to not kill Vader because that would see him kill in anger and join the Dark Side of the force
Before the generic obi wan tatooine Jedi robe appeared everywhere I thought it was more like what Jedi would be like. Elite knights errant taking down bad people and situations.
i find it satisfying that we don't get any more of that. what i mean is that, at least in my head, luke has finally truly seen the light side and what it is capable of and has moved on from his angry and dark phase. don't get me wrong dark Luke is the real shit but there's something to be said for anakin bringing balance to the force by turning to the light and also giving Luke the final push towards the light that he needs
Congratulations anon, out of countless threads and discussions here you seem to be one of the few people who actually gets Star Wars.
>there's something to be said for anakin bringing balance to the force by turning to the light
Yep we did it boizs. Took decades of suffering and trillions of deaths but we got a sith lord to turn to the light. Well worth it. Prophecy fulfilled and now we can all move on.
Truly the force is female.
Dark Jedi is George’s original nomenclature for “the sith”. They weren’t officially called the sith until the prequels (well technically in tertiary media after the 80’s), but were always called dark (Darth) Jedi when George spoke of Vader and The Emperor.
Therefore I wouldn’t say Luke was a dark Jedi here as he was pure of heart and righteous, he was a stoic, confident badass Jedi Master by ROTJ. The black uniform represented the fearlessness he learned, ready to confront the darkness by moving deftly within it’s shadow, not surrendering to it.
>wow did you really want to see old luke soloing 20 stormtroopers and taking down AT-ATs with the force?
Yes.
Seriously, why the fuck else would I want to see sequels to a perfect ending? It sure wouldn’t be to see some hack shit all over the thing I bought a ticket to see
I've seen hate for Luke's personality in 6 as he's "a weird jedi now" but all I see is Luke bottling up everything that makes him like anakin. Luke's anger is more cold, and it takes the entire movie for Vader to pull that anger out only for Luke to reject it fully
Star Wars has been setting up Luke’s Jedi Order since 1977. The fact that it remains the single most requested part of the Star Wars lore to this very day shows you its incredible staying power in people’s minds.
The only thing really holding this franchise back is Kennedy’s bizarre obsession with replacing Leia & Luke with Rey Palpatine. If they (Lucasfilm). just admitted that Rey didn’t work as a character, they could just tell the story of Luke’s New Jedi Order and make an absolute fortune over the next 10-20 years. Recast them if you have to, or if deep fake has improved to the point needed, go with that. It’s like Disney is allergic to money
Kennedy didn't want to replace Leia she wanted to replace Luke. The focus was very obviously on carrie fisher before she died. Otherwise you're correct.
Absolutely kino aesthetic.
I keep saying that they should have content with Mark Hamill post RotJ and I always get people whining that deepfaking him young will look shit.
I want him to be old! The single worst offense of TLJ was the way they spruced Hamill up for that fakeout fight with Kylo because it showed that it was possible to give us the Luke kino we deserve, they just refuse to do so.
I just don't see the point. I like Hamill's performance in TLJ a lot, but if we're going to have post-ROTJ stories with the original trio I'd rather they be animated or books/comics.
>I just don't see the point
Because they ruined Luke and made him a pathetic little bitch who dies from thinking too hard after sitting on a rock whining for the entire film?
How does shoehorning in Luke doing epic badass wuxia moves against inevitable disposable red lightsaber fodder change that?
It doesn't change it. It gives the fans what they actually want (literally impossible challenge for disney): to see the young hero grown up.
Every fan wants that story. And, controversially, Luke doesn't even need to be the good guy. They could make him the villain. It just needs to be written well and consistently. But making him an impotent bitch is just shit.
And that I even need to explain this to you confirms that you were never a star wars fan.
>nit a tr000 f4n
Okay.
An animated show like Clone Wars about the Big 3 during the New Republic years would be great. However, I wouldn’t be opposed to recasting them for live action too. I get that deep fake in the next 5-10 years will probably be perfect and maybe it’s worth waiting for.
But the story right now is actually pretty good. Baylon and Shin are actually legitimately great characters. Thrawn and Morgan Ellsbeth are very good. It feels like they are bringing back Abeloth. Throw a prime Grandmaster Luke in there along with Mara Jade and Ahsoka and so on and all of a sudden Star Wars is the hottest shit in media again. It would be amazing. But I’m sure Disney will figure out how to squander this moment. It’s just what they do.
>Baylon and Shin are actually legitimately great characters.
They're passable. Baylon is carried by Stephenson; it took six episodes to get more than a vague allusion to his motivations, and we still don't actually know anything about him. Shin is nothing at all; people just want to fuck her.
>prime Grandmaster Luke
That's decades away, though.
Shin looks feral and mangy. Stevenson, like most Irish and British, can act circles around Americans. He just feels interesting. Maybe it’s just that most corporate Disney Star Wars characters are bland and soulless, but Baylon and Shin are actually interesting.
I'll give you they're better than most Star Wars villains, but that's a low bar.
What's your point?
brutal
It was supposed to be the Jedi uniform before Lucas decided the make the Jedi dress like Tatooine moisture farmers in TPM because it looks more like the space monks they are supposed to be.
You say that but all the Jedi in the Original Trilogy including the ghosts in RotJ dress like that, not just old Obi Kenobi on Tatooine. Yoda was living in the middle of nowhere, and Anakin's ghost isn't based on how he looked when he died at all. If it was the Jedi uniform then why weren't they wearing it as ghosts?
I once heard a YouTuber claim that prior to the prequels, fans just assumed that old people wore robes in the SW universe and that it had nothing to do with the Jedi, which honestly makes a lot of sense to me.
its a desert brown and beige space robe, not a jedi outfit. luke didnt wear anything similar in the next two movies because his occupation changed. anakin wearing the same desert robes as obiwan makes sense because he is from the same planet and yodas burlap sack is slightly different looking. why would jedi in hiding even wear the same fit. everything after the originals is only made to be recognised and bought by dumb kids, nothing makes sense design wise.
it was the outfit of the common man, they wore it out of humility and to blend in
no one on crossaintcunt wore outfits like that, so its not common. its desert robes
that's like saying something is common only if its worn in manhattan
>its a desert brown and beige space robe, not a jedi outfit.
But why doesn't Owen Lars or Luke wear the same desert brown outfit?
Owen IS wearing the same outfit.
he clearly killed a jedi and stole his clothes
Clearly he missed laundry day and had to borrow his brother's clothes.
>"See those dunes in the distance, the ones many leagues away beyond the Sand-people's domain? The ones we refer to as Desolation Ridge? That's where you should fuck off to, Luke."
People that live in the desert wear robes, so people on tattooine were robes. Monks wear robes, so the Jedi wore robes. You’re literally retarded, stop parroting RLM and use some basic critical thinking skills. More than one type of person can wear robes and it makes perfect sense why both Jedi and tatooone inhabitants do.
jedis arent monks, theyre politicians and peacekeepers and closer to magic space samurai. they should wear armour or militaristic uniforms
>filtered
Its almost as if that was the point.
The Militaristic samurai who killed off the Sith is no more. Merely a bureaucrat class of monks is left.
then they shouldve had robes like the other politicians, not tatooine robes for half of them. its a sound argument. its only for being recognizable and marketable.
they get young slave anakin infront of the council, he's already wearing a 'jedi' outift.
Dude, desert robes are what all Jedi wear! It wasn’t just Obi Wan dressing like locals to blend in, it’s their uniform!
>Dude, desert robes are what all Jedi wear!
Yes, George said so.
>dude i know nothing about the force ghosts and yoda's attire in the OT, but I want to parrot criticism
To be fair Yoda wasn't intended to have been a Jedi Knight like Obi-Wan at that point. I don't mind the Jedi robes in the prequels, but it's apparent that Luke's ROTJ outfit is the kind of thing Lucas had in mind for the Jedi, and this was the assumption for years -- including during TPM's development.
It doesn’t fit the Jedi order era. That looks like a militaristic outfit that the empire would impose on someone.
Lucas is such a fucking moron its painful
>Luke Wait Palpatine is still Alive
Luke there’s a planet with a million star destroyers and there’s evil scarred face clones serving the emperor who is still alive. Whatever you do don’t try to murder your nephew for having bad dreams
Symbolism about as deep as a fucking puddle.
Are you saying you didn't like that shot when Luke is hiding under the stairs while Vader is taunting him and half his face is in shadow and half is in light?
Still one hundred times better than anything the new movies 've done
Watch more movies, manchild.
Literally 5th grade tier writing. You should feel bad about having this opinion
It's like pottery, it results in useful ceramic items and ornaments.
Thought of a retcon fix for titty-milk-sucking Luke. He's an inferior flawed retard clone, (who doesn't know it), set up as a decoy for the real Luke who is still out there. Part of some evil plan by evil secret Sith Lord Jar-Jar, the true Phantom Menace who likes using decoys, (eg. His apprentice Emperor Palpatine, while he rules from the shadows behind the throne).
That's why he's not using the Force properly, can't teach Rey shit, loses fight with her, etc. He kinda-sorta thinks he's actually the real Luke, but can't figure out why he suddenly sucks at Jedi'ing so badly. He gets confused, depressed, and goes to the island to avoid doing any more damage and fail, to study the sacred Jedi texts trying to get his shit together, realises he still sucks and can't do it, so just figures the best thing to do is die like the loser he is on the island.
Star Wars has clones, so not adding anything unprecedented.
How about this? The long-lived Darth Jar-Jar with his forces destroyed sees Luke building a Jedi school and flips his shit about the pending imbalance between Jedi and Sith, which will leave him pretty much defeated as they will help entrench the New Republic. He creates a Luke clone, (that is modified to be by necessity mentally weak and easily influenced by Jar-Jar's Dark Side powers). He abducts the real Luke Skywalker and replaces him with the clone to take over the school and subtly mis-train them to be Dark Side fags. So you see Clone Luke come in as Master and give them a 'Jedi' lesson that is not quite Light Side Kosher.
The clone still has Luke's personality though, so while it's more or less going along with Jar-Jar's, he's trying to resist the brainwashing, culminating with sensing the danger a Sith Kylo represents, and knowing he needs to die, but also conflicted about killing Han and Leia's son. Would actually make sense for Retard Luke to want to kill him while he can while momentarily overcoming the brainwashing.
Jar-Jar uses his remote Sith power to wake Kylo just in time.
Whole school gets destroyed, and Kylo takes Sith students with him. Jar-Jar has basically got what he wanted, just not quite the way he wanted. Retard Luke knowing he's fucked either way, programs R2-D2 to sleep or whatever, (and generally ties up loose ends of gay shit like that), then goes to his tit-milk island, figuring in isolation everyone will be better off, also will be out of range of Jar-Jar's remote mental influence. Tries to use the Sacred Jedi Texts to sort his shit as described, but fails. Turns into depressed loser who is actively trying to stay away from training Jedi, then Rey shows up and wants to be trained and he reacts like he does, and it makes some kind of sense this time.
>Thought of a retcon fix for titty-milk-sucking Luke. He's an inferior flawed retard clone, (who doesn't know it), set up as a decoy for the real Luke who is still out there.
Or he can actually know he's a clone and is basically acting as Luke's bodyguard.
So Luuke?
Why not Jake?
You mean Jaake
Why were Luke and Vader related? Would Luke have saved Vader or vice versa if not for their arbitrary blood relation?
Do you want honesty?
Honestly is that Lucas is a hack that got lucky.
No, he's a genuinely creative guy, who just needed a little help with his hacky dialogue and shit. Nothing to be ashamed of, even the best authors have publishers editing their shit.
Prequels could have been good, he just needed the same kind of help instead of a bunch of yes-men. That's the pity of it. Nobody should have been worshipping Lucas the way they did, because he was just a part of a group of people who made Star Wars great in the first place, (though a big part to be fair).
Most great people have at least one silent partner who is a big part of their success, but you see it really play out with two-man writing teams that later break up. One might go on to do okay, but with inferior results, or they both go on to totally fail.
He had a great eye for visuals, but I still think he got lucky by being in the right place at the right time.
>the right place at the right time
Agree, but a big part of that was the right team of people coming together. Now half his team would be retired, dead, or otherwise unavailable. Maybe had falling out over pay, recognition, character conflict they toughed out back in the day, etc. It's a very fragile thing - happens more obviously with bands that break up and try to have solo careers.
That's the real 'lightning in a bottle', not that these people aren't talented in their own right. After success and money, power imbalances develop, bad blood, even legal disputes.
i don't buy it. him negotiating his contract so he can get all profits from toy sales indicates he knew exactly what he was doing
>Most great people have at least one silent partner who is a big part of their success, but you see it really play out with two-man writing teams that later break up. One might go on to do okay, but with inferior results, or they both go on to totally fail.
reminds me of what happened with avatar; aaron moved on, and then mike & bryan went and made korra, which was terrible because they didn't have aaron to check and balance their stupidity
meanwhile aaron went on to make his own show, which was kind of a wet fart since he didn't have the spontaneity of mike & bryan
A similar thing with Red Dwarf I think with Grant and Naylor. One of them seems to like puerile jokes more than the other, and while it was fine in small doses it stopped being reigned in.
To be fair, it was always a stumbling block for Luke, to the point he felt he couldn't even go kill his own Dad to save the galaxy, and Yoda and Kenobi even lied about it knowing that might be an issue. So I guess the answer to your question is no.
>(...)to the point he felt he couldn't even go kill his own Dad to save the galaxy
This is part of where it feels weird to me though, because the characters have no relationship prior to "Star Wars". There's no nostalgia for the good times or even a singular memory. Luke and Anakin do not know eachother, at all. The whole subplot of Luke afraid of becoming a fallen knight and wanting to redeem Vader for his own sake is reason enough, but it gets thrown by the wayside in RotJ for the sake of familia.
>Yoda and Kenobi even lied about it knowing that might be an issue
Why would it be an issue though? Unless Luke had previously known his father and had some emotional attachment, there's nothing for Luke as a character to pull from. Especially in the case of a character who fucking destroyed an entire planet, killed his mentor, cut his hand off, and threatened to murder his friends and mindrape his sister.
I don't get it. I love and hate my father equally. Not because I came from his ballsack, but because of the shit he's done (or not done) during our lifetimes. Does George Lucas even understand how emotions work, or the character that he setup for 1 and 3/4 films prior to RotJ?
I guess the Lifestr- I mean the Midochlorians told him about Anakin's early life.
cope
Kenobi lied about it, but he is also not even close to objective about Anakin. He couldn't kill him and left him by the lava river out of emotional connection seeing Anakin as his brother whom he loved. Of course he won't tell Luke.
Yoda felt it was unfortunate, but in Ep6 says that the only unfortunate thing about it is that Luke found out before he was ready, he wasn't ready for the burden, but that had Luke waited until his training's completion Yoda would have told him.
The two - Yoda and Ben - disagreed on telling Luke. Ben also didn't want to tell Luke about his sister, meanwhile Yoda did. Yoda seems fairly clearly in favour of telling Luke (maybe not immediately, but he wasn't going to keep it from him forever). Kenobi by contrast wanted to make Luke into a weapon to throw at Vader.
Seems more like something interpreted after the fact.
Somewhere there's a costume designer who took shit into there own hands reading this thinking, "You have much to learn young one ... "
poetry
Reminder
IV > II > V > III = VI > I all 6 are all good
I would flip 3 and 6, but otherwise agree.
I > (II & III) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dogshit Prequels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Disney Dogshit
PROTIP: The last two are one movie, just like the 'Back to the Future' sequels. The second one doesn't have an actual ending, so it's not a movie, it's only Part 1 of a movie.
t. Poser larping as an ot boomer
Empire am Jedi were already called episodes 5 and 6 when they came out in theaters dumbfuck
Did Luke ever had Sex in Mouse Canon?
Seeing as they had children, yes.
who was luke's kid in mouse canon
youve confused anakin with luke
Adam Driver Darth Vader is han / leias kid
If only Disney's Skywalker family was actually attractive.
That sounds like it could inspire children. Yidsney only wants to rape children.
theres barely any fantasy made like this anymore. i cant really remember a recent decent one. maybe the hobbit if they werent bloated mediocre franchise movies
>This scene is so brilliant that I believe George Lucas had nothing to do with it and most likely fought against including it in the movie
did u also notice that darth vader's head is white too... woah
where to cop jacket like it?not exactly but simular and not cosplay tier
It's just a black fencing jacket. A black jacket with a mandarin collar looks similar.
What if Vader took off his helmet and he was a nagger and Luke was like eww and Vader was like what? And Luke was like "nothing" but Vader was like "you're racist!"
>take off Vader's helmet
>Vader is a nagger
"My King! I am a loyal citizen of Zamunda!"
I had almost the exact same thought before reading your post
There was more thought put into this costume decision than the entire ninth movie.
that is so bravo nolan sneed snood kino from this to this times you were the whale waingro i had to get it on body of work bane plane without sounding mad boomers tut
I thought it was reversable because they had to sneak in with Hans on the base. They all wore white.
it looks like a preist outfit, and that's what luke was, a guy plucked from virginity into a celibate order. Maybe that's why rian (irish name) wanted to do his 'tee-hee he's turned out to want to abuser a child' angle
What happened to Mark Hamill? He's like a completely different person now. He went from based to Reddit.
>signifying how despite his struggles with the dark side
It was a two minute scene where he spergs out after spending 2 hours saying he could undeniably save his dad. There was no struggle for Luke.
His clothes were cool.
This is about as dumb as saying "Well Vader is actually a pale white guy which means he was good all along and voiced by a black guy, which represents his evil exterior."
Did Luke purposefully (even subconsciously) wear this outfit because he struggles with the dark side? Unlikely. So what the fuck is the point of the symbolism. Oh look the lights in the background are white, representing the light side. Fuck you.
This will probably make you feel a bit stupid but that's not white clothes underneath. It's just the inner lining of his black jacket lol.
>the Prequels suck because, uh… the costumes are wrong!
No, because they're plain fucking boring.
I thought the costumes looked fine for the most part, and it was one of the few things I liked about Rey in the Disney shit. She looked fine for the desert planet, and for Jedi shit. Pity everything else sucked hard vacuum.
When Wreck-It fucking Ralph has a better, more exciting racing scene, then you know you done fucked up:
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Pretty much the same race hitting pretty much all the same points, and literally does everything better, more efficiently, with more drama, in less time.
Funny how until the prequels were made that was the 'jedi outfit' and you can see that in the early 1990s star wars video games and media. only with phantom menace did the fucking desert robes become the jedi clothes
>why are monks wearing monk robes >:(
>luke clothes get a darker tone as the OT progresses
>Luke loses his father's lightsaber as he loses his grip on what he believes is truth and what is in fact real, Vader being his father
>upon becoming a complete Jedi luke clothes are dark, meaning that he accepted the dark within himself and finally overcame the cave challenge and is ready to redeem his father
>Luke lightsaber color in RoTJ is green, the color of life, and ends up revivid his father soul
>Luke accepts the dark and the light within him in the end giving new life to the force as the last of the Jedi
POTTERY
>let's just change the lightsaber colors to sell more toys
Fans come up with the most convoluted bullshit to explain away toy marketing - no wonder Fox were retarded and let Lucas have the merchandising right
It wasn't primarily done for toys. Luke's lightsaber was changed from blue to green because green showed up better against the sky in the sail barge sequence when he's fighting all of Jabba's goons. His lightsaber was still blue as late as the prerelease trailer and poster art going public.
I don't want to seem racist, but it seems to me that Vader turned good the second he stopped talking like a nagger. Coincidence?
>revealed to be a white guy
>"yep, he's good after all despite that black exterior"
wtf lucas
Luke’s black outfit is iconic. I actually quite like Baylon’s outfit in Ahsoka, he looks like a legitimate Knight. Shin too.
I really wanna see Jedi Master Luke in armor like Baylon's now.
This.
Luke’s Jedi Order should take a cue from Shin & Baylon. Jedi should dress like Knights, not peasants.
it's because luke was supposed to internalize both darkness and light and understand the balance of all things. if you just look at them as movies without a whole bunch of EU lore raising questions it's clearly just about luke letting go of the self to reach enlightenment.
That's too simple of an answer. How am I supposed to post a 4 paragraph AI seeming comment about how luke and sidious gave eachother a look where for .5 of a second luke contemplated being his apprentice, immediately after he changed his mind when the force showed him all of anakins misdeeds leading up to him getting maimed by obi wan? Btw, I cried during that moment.
SW 1-6 - libertarian free will
NU-Wars - hard determinism
Classically liberal might be more accurate. Libertarianism is just a modern meme collection box for ashamed conservatives.
Uh... read philosophy of mind and the modern work on free will. You're confused.
>go read this stuff
Worst quality poster. Formulate your own argument dippyshits.
not sure if trolling or really that retarded
No he's not. If you can't make relevant argument supposedly having read shit and instead assign him homework, then you're the retard, (who probably never read it yourself or understood what you did read).
Telling someone to go read a bunch of books instead of just arguing the relevant point is the equivalent to retards who say, "You need to talk to my college professor", because you swallowed a whole bunch of bullshit you liked the sound of, but you can't explain why.
>read plato, read plato!
Why didn't the just try to barter better with Jabba? Who cares about two droids, just give him some frogs, gold, a 2-3 B-Wings and say the Rebellion thanks your friendship and understanding wink wink
Luke grew up under the thumb of the Hutt Cartel on Tatooine. Ultimately, he despised the Hutts, and wanted conflict so he could justify killing the slug and freeing his home world.
The green lightsaber really compliments the all black suit. Very aesthetic.
>The force is with you, young Skywalker.
>But you are not a jedi yet.
Everything about this shot, the music, and the dialogue is perfect. Iconic as fuck
> the music
There’s no music in this “shot” retard
Turns out Satan is a homosexual.
I meant the scene itself, the duel, not just that one shot.
More like Dart Vaper haha, amirite folks?
not only that, but at the start of the film after Like left Yodas training... we can se he has already fallen to the dark side.
1. wears all black
2. has robot hand
3. force chokes the guards to death
4. threatens to murder jabba if he doesnt turn han solo over (who was imprisoned for refusing to pay his debts)
5. is highly arrogant
Luke was betrayed by both of his masters (or perhaps misled would be a better term). They never told him about Anakin Skywalker, Darth Vader, and the fall of Jedi. it became clear that Yoda and Obi-Wan wanted to use Luke to destroy the Sith due to Luke’s incredible power, and thus told him what they wanted him to know.
The Luke we see in ROTJ is coming to terms with his true identity and power, and realizing that both his Masters and his father were deeply flawed people and both sides were desperate to manipulate Luke to their cause in order to win the galaxy. There was almost a mourning nature to him in that film.
Yeah the point of the movie is that Luke was the only "true" jedi who believed his father could be redeemed. Obi-Wan and Yoda were both cynical, and only cared about manipulating Luke to abandon his friends and unknowingly commit patricide. Luke acts the way he does at the beginning of ROTJ because he in turn became cynical toward Obi-Wan and Yoda in response to the revelation at the end of ESB. He didn't actually turn to the dark side so much as he was just using the Force as a means to accomplish his own goals.
in my head cannon when Yoda says "no, there is another" after Ben tells him Luke was their last hope... I think Yoda was saying that the last hope was that Anakin loved his son.
Well it was kinda retconned to be Leia even though it actually doesn't make sense, because Yoda and Obi-Wan had just tried to convince Luke to let Leia and the rest of his friends get captured/killed by Vader. Supposedly Lucas intended the "another" to be Luke's sister (not Leia) who was somewhere else in the galaxy and wouldn't be revealed until Episode VII or VIII. GL decided to change this and just wrap things up with ROTJ to finish out the trilogy without leaving any dangling loose ends.
This.
The Luke we see in ROTJ and the Mandoverse/ New Republic Era is a guy that finally knows who he is and what he is capable of. He’s also his own man, and he plans on building his Jedi Order in his own image.
>the point of the movie is that Luke was the only "true" jedi
People say this but I don't think it's true. Luke was just in a unique position and Luke realized it. If Obi-Wan or anybody else confronted Vader it probably would have been necessary to kill Vader. "Obi-Wan once thought as you do." Vader didn't budge. It didn't even go the way Luke thought it would.
>Luke was just in a unique position and Luke realized it. If Obi-Wan or anybody else confronted Vader it probably would have been necessary to kill Vader.
that's what fans always seem to miss
he wasn't special because of prophecy or because he was the last jedi alive or because of how strong he was
he was special because he was vader's son and that bond allowed to him to redeem his father (and his father's redemption led to balance being restored)
His bond with his father was important, of course. More to the point, it was Luke’s unerring belief in the real Anakin Skywalker that allowed Anakin to return from the clutches of the dark side.
However, Luke’s incredible power level was a huge part of the OT story. Palpatine was obsessed with Luke’s power and wanted to abandon Vader in order to make the younger, more powerful Luke his new apprentice. In fact, Palpatine would never have allowed Luke to get within a million miles of his throne room unless he thought Luke was both a massive threat and an incredible potential ally. Otherwise, he would have had some storm trooper shoot him in the head.
Luke’s pedigree bought him entrance to the throne room.
run to dagobah, run to dagobah!
get ya ass to dagobah.
I'M YODA
I'M A SOULJA
I always liked Luke’s uniform in Empire Strikes Back
Anyone else?
I also thought being a fighter pilot was more interesting than being a Jedi
Reminder that Disney cast a perfect Hammill lookalike to then plaster shitty deepfake all over his face because they didn't want to credit a real actor
They did credit the actor. What are you talking about?
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I still love Star Wars, bros.
Even when it doesn't make sense to me.