>make a joker movie
>about his origin
>not a single chemical bath
>not even a red hood
Why is this allowed?
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>make a joker movie. >about his origin. >not a single chemical bath. >not even a red hood
arthur is the inspiration for the real joker
This, Arthur isn't the REAL joker everyone knows, he's essentially a beta version of joker, he just served as the inspiration for the real joker who was still young in the movie.
I want this to happen so bad cause it would be cool, but that would require the DCEU to get its shit together and that's never happening.
it takes a much more realistic look on a broken man, not some comic guy that turned crazy after chemical burns he shouldve been paralyzed for life from
Hold on. I'm supposed to believe a guy who can't even afford his own gun will eventually get a giant blimp filled with toxic laughing gas and try to crash it into the city? I'm supposed to believe this?
Maybe the more unrealistic part is that a guy could ever own a giant blimp filled with toxic laughing gas in the first place...
it's a fricking comic book my man
No, it's a movie that more grounded in reality than the majority of comics
sounds to me like it could've been about anyone and they just slapped the name Joker on to cast a wider net
That's literally exactly what happened, it's still a good movie either way
It's a good movie but it's not a good JOKER movie
Congratulations anon, you finally figured it out.
You're supposed to not be a sperger and understand that this is not that same guy.
Then why semi rip off the origin of Bruce from Batman 89? Is that the Joker?
No, this movie is a standalone. Again, stop being a sperger about it.
He fell into a vat of society instead loooooool
Different interpretations are allowed
But it has to be recognisable
I had a friend that told me that the movie would had been better if it ended with arthur falling into a vat of acid
I thought he was joking but holy shit, I never imagine him to be so moronic
That is moronic. Because Joker doesn't fall into a vat of acid. Red Hood does. And it isn't acid. It's a chemical called Jokium. Your friend is dum
>It's a chemical called Jokium.
That's so moronicly autistic holy frick
It's not called jokium, but as it is right now in the current comic universe, it is jokium in every way but the name. The thing literally turns you into the joker
And then there is the joker venom
Is Three Jokers even canon anymore?
Comic writters are childs and don't consider canon anything that isn't written by them.
But yes, is canon
Is anything canon? Remember when Batman sat on the Mobius chair and learned Joker's name? That was supposed to be a big moment and the only thing we got from it was a lame crossover with Watchmen and Three Jokers
I swear this is a reference to something. It's moronic enough to be true
>Jokium
That's not a thing, what the hell are you talking about?
It was complete fabrication. I wanted to make that anon feel dumb. And it worked.
You got pranked. By me. The OG Joker. AKA the Prankster
Because Western comics are moronic
>has a 8/10 gf
>supposed to be an 'incel'
come on
She wasn't real
I think he means the fact that in the sequel, Harley Quinn is supposed to appear
>Lady Gaga
>8/10
doubt it
I meant his girlfriend in the first movie
>supposed to be an 'incel'
He isn't
I like the idea of a more realistic Batman universe, I've never liked Batman comics that suggest mutant supervillans and aliens exist, it clashes too heavily to me with the idea of a guy who's just a human and used his money to buy all these gadgets to be a superhero in "real life"
The Joker movie fits this idea perfectly for me, if there's absurd things like aliens or the joker flying a blimp of toxic laughing gas, it'd ruin this more grounded interpretation of the Batman universe for me
The criminal Joker in this universe should be more like Jigsaw in the saw franchise, where he's obviously crazy but his feats are theoretically possible
Honestly I wish the movie had been a character piece on Arnold Wesker and Scarface instead. You might see me make threads on this but I legit think if you reworked a few things it would be a much better Ventriloquist origin
>old man failed comedian with speech impediment gets shit on by life
>finds a dummy that uses Wesker to commit various crimes
>Wesker thinks it's making him more confident
>instead of a flash back with black lady it's a flashback showing all the times Scarface was committing crimes it was really Wesker.
>Wesker decides to kill himself to escape Scarface on Murray's show
>Scarface kills Wesker and is picked up by Peyton
Someday I'm gonna direct this movie. It's so much better than what they gave us in Jokler.
Like many comic movies, the creators took many liberties and only really used the character names for brand recognition.
What bothered me the most is how they used Thomas Wayne, I'm so tired of these horrible adaptations, he was supposed to be a doctor dammit.
They've been shitting on Bruce's parents for a long time.
The Batman
The Joker
Batman: TellTale game
Gotham
Batman New 52
they all redo the origin to make it seem like the Wayne's were criminals who got pushed out by the mob.
>The Batman
>The Joker
What exactly did these do that "shit on Bruce's parents"
The Batman has a sideplot about Thomas maybe being in league with crime. Alfred shoots down the suggestion right away, but I guess he missed that part.
>Alfred shoots down the suggestion right away, but I guess he missed that part.
I know but I wanted him to reach the same conclusion
No he didn't shoot down the suggestion. He allowed Falcone to threaten the reporter in order to hide Martha's insanity so he could run for mayor. He went to the mob. But Falcone killed the reporter and Thomas kept it a secret and still tried to run for Mayor.
Well in The Joker they make Thomas Wayne a deadbeat father who cheated on Martha and disowned the bastard son (by the way Joker and Bruce Wayne are brothers in this universe)
In The Batman Falcone tells Bruce he and Thomas were in cahoots to get rid of a reporter who covered a story of Martha being sent to Arkham Asylum.
Now I'm not saying Thomas and Martha need to be completely altruistic. But if you're going to dedicate your life to dressing up like a bat to honor them you should be sure they aren't hypocrites or toadies for the mob.
>Well in The Joker they make Thomas Wayne a deadbeat father who cheated on Martha and disowned the bastard son (by the way Joker and Bruce Wayne are brothers in this universe)
Oh you mean something unconfirmed and only source for this are mentally ill people who aren't reliable?
>In The Batman Falcone tells Bruce he and Thomas were in cahoots to get rid of a reporter who covered a story of Martha being sent to Arkham Asylum.
Oh you mean the thing that even Alfred was unable to confirm?
>The Joker
Arthur literally picks up a note that Thomas sent to Martha during their affair. It confirms they had a taboo relationship.
The Batman
Alfred isn't even a part of this. Riddler only existed because Thomas Wayne's decisions led to the destruction of his orphanage for mob shit. Riddler pieced the clues together and exposed Thomas. Falcone confirmed this. Alfred was the b***h who could only go "ohh there was so much you didn't know about your father"
Thomas didn't send a note, Martha did.
>Well in The Joker they make Thomas Wayne a deadbeat father who cheated on Martha and disowned the bastard son (by the way Joker and Bruce Wayne are brothers in this universe)
Did you miss the part where Arthur's mom was a schizo? Sure let's take her word for it.
No take the fricking evidence and piece the clues together
>Love your smile
>-T.W.
Did you even see the movie you’re talking about? It is revealed later that Martha forged the note because she’s insane too.
Please pull up the scene that that happened.
>The capeshit director has fallen in love with the auteur cinema!
It's just a Scorcese fanboy trying to homage his idol's work while using a stablished franchise
More like
>make a movie about a man with mental illness losing his shit
>Hollywood producer rejects it
>oy vey goyim this script needs to be based on a popular IP or no deal
>throw a tenuous Batman connection in there by making him "The Joker"
Why is THAT allowed?
It was literally announced that Todd Phillips was hired to make a Joker film before there was ever a screenplay. Why do people keep on making up this "it was a script repurposed to have Batman characters? fanfic? It was a Joker movie from the start.
You frickers are talking about shit that was made for children in the 30's and trying to make sense of it
Get a god damn grip, people
Where do you think you are?
>ugly fricking red suit instead of glorious purple
Now that's a real crime.
Before: Joker falls into toxic waste
Now: Joker falls into society