Make Betsy asian again

Make Betsy asian again

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Make good comics first.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No you dumbass.
    You have Kwannon as Psylocke for that.
    This ain’t 33 years ago. No more yellow face.
    They’re not making Jean Mexican. They not making Rogue Indian.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Kwannon isn’t Betsy. It’s the same look but it’s not the same character. Hell even Betsy isn’t even remotely similar to who she’s been all these years and she is the same character. All they did was make both worse

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Explain what is there to like about Betsy outside of being a coombait?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Far as I remember, she was originally the British Jean Grey, someone with a lot of potential and power that she struggled her life to contain but gave her a sense of empathy that kept her from being a stuck up b***h like the rest of the X-men could unintentionally walk into. She also wasn't portrayed as scared or threatened by her powers like Jean was, considering she was in STRIKE, and between that and the glamorous aesthetics of the psionic butterfly power, she was portrayed as the nicer but potentially deadlier of the Braddock twins. Brian would have no patience for your bullshit, but Betsy losing patience with your bullshit would be a messier experience.

          Then when she got bodyswapped, they parleyed her long time experience with psionics powers to make the cool looking psyblade and changed up her personality to be more "mature" and serious and at times at odds with her increasing level of personal aggression and emotional outbursts both from Kwannon's lingering influence and her increasing need to focus her psionic powers into far more outright lethal methods via brainstabbing.

          At least, that's what I think people used to like about her. Nowadays, ever since they split both Betsy and Kwannon, it feels like all the self-control and self-doubting portions of Psylocke went to Kwannon while the residual increased aggression and power refinement evolved Betsy into a self-important b***h on par with Jean Grey. But, hey, maybe people like that? I can't account for their tastes though, they already have Emma Frost and Jean Grey and a dozen other psychics if they wanted another b***hy girlboss psychic lady mutant.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Kwannon wan't even a thing when ninja psylocke happened.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, I know it was a retcon, but I mentioned it just cause that's part of how they justified why she started turning into purple Elektra.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I think the Kwannon storyline was stupid and just made things complicated, just like a lot of things in the 90.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                In fairness, it this was unintentional. Fabian Nicieza thought Psylocke's transformation was still unexplained and he was finally revealing what had happened. Then when they realized we already had an explanation, he had to do another story to try and fit everything together, and the continuity patch left it all stupid and complicated.

                But it's been very effectively memoryholed, there are a lot of casuals who think Kwannon existed as a character before ninja Betsy happened, I've even seen people here who though she had fans.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >maybe people like that?
            they don't it be one of the consistent critiques of Howard's books is that she writes Betsy as a massive b***h

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >self-doubting portions of Psylocke went to Kwannon
            I feel the opposite. The self doubting was dialed up to 10 with the new Betsy as she is far more timid and written with white guilt syndrome by having her apologize for being in Kwannons body even though she was an equal victim in the matter and had no choice to go back in her original body. Which made it annoying because now its written were she's being coddled by others going "there there" for some cheap pathos. Not to mention the CB title made her this weird stoic type she never was written as before to continue this apology tour narrative.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >They’re not making Jean Mexican.
      Well no, she's a redhead, they'll make her black.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >They’re not making Jean Mexican. They not making Rogue Indian.
      Yet

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Kek. White characters get raceswapped all the time. Betsy will be asian again

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Betsy will be asian again
        I don't think so at least Marvel will do everything else under the sun before that point it's the only reason Kwannon is now a character with no explanation

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >it's the only reason Kwannon is now a character with no explanation
          it's hilarous, probably the most shameless "have their cake and eat it too". even ultra woke Marvel knows sexy ninja girl is more valuable than the captain Karen Tini writes

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >the captain Karen Tini writes
            shame they won't get rid of her though

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Maybe the third failed series in a row will finally do it

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                even if it ends Tini's working relationship with Marvel I kinda doubt Jorden D White will make Brain Captain Britain again the only way that going to happen is if the MCU has Captain Britain as a character in a future film who is Brain Braddock

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Ah I thought you were talking about Tini but I think there's a decent chance he'll be CB again probably beside CB Betsy since a lot of these things end up reversed or at least someone may possibly write Betsy decently

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    she needs to stop being captain Britain first which will only happen once Tini Howerd stops writing for Marvel

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It'd be funny if she ends up being an asian Capt Britain in the mcu

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Kill Betsy off permanently so that Brain can be Captain Britain again.

      >female character with a unique name and costume
      >strip her off them and give her a male character's whole schtick
      Umm how was that allowed

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        There was nothing unique about Betsy hence why they gave her Captain Britain's name. And despite Betsy being Captain Britain, Betsy didn't inherit any of the Captain Britain powers. Nothing but standard telepathy and telekinesis.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >There was nothing unique about Betsy hence why they gave her Captain Britain's name
          Yeah because they gave all her shit to Kwannon. Marvel should just fuse them again they both feel like hollow characters at the moment

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Did Betsy had a dead daughter who she wanted to bring back to life?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Did Kwannon have a psyknife, psionic butterfly and the Psylocke codename pre bodyswap

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Those are superficial traits, I’m talking about character traits.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                please, having a dead familiy member is as generic as it gets in capeshit

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Not when it’s an offspring.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Does having a dead kid make you a deeper person?

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why does japan love her? I thought she was supposed to be racist to them

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Most nippon dont know her origin, they just reconize her as sexy ninja lady.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Last japanese game she was on had her as british-japanese. The change only happened due to twittergays because Marvel loves appeasing them

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          And do they explain her background in the game?

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That's racist anon

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Cinemaphile looking at Psylocke
    >Racebend more women into Asians
    Cinemaphile looking at Velma
    >No wait, not like that!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Asians>

      [...]

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Kill Betsy off permanently so that Brain can be Captain Britain again.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Won't fix how she's a selfish unlikeable c**t now, sadly

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Betsy is a pretty shit character if her only redeeming quality is that she is wank off material.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Kwannon is fine she's all the best parts of Psylocke anyway. Betsy fricking suck ass and has only gotten worse

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Modern Kwannon also turned out to be vastly superior character than modern Psylocke.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      No you dumbass.
      You have Kwannon as Psylocke for that.
      This ain’t 33 years ago. No more yellow face.
      They’re not making Jean Mexican. They not making Rogue Indian.

      All they did was take all of betsy characteristics name and powers and slap it on kwannon.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >All they did was take all of betsy characteristics name and powers and slap it on kwannon.
        Pretty sure Betsy was never originally a cool but conflicted professional type, that's only a thing that happened when she got Kwannon's body, she had a history and character before that happened

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Pretty sure Betsy was never originally a cool but conflicted professional type,
          That was her motto for the longest time even before yellow face if you read the outback era. Kwannon wasn't a character to begin with and all they did was take traits from betsy even from the beggining.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Make Betsy asian again
    Just stop her from being CB. That's it. She would be fixed. And give her a different costume. THis one was alright I guess but you always can design something better

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly I'd just retcon her to be a British woman of Japanese descent and a half sister to Brian

    The Japanese look is her most well known might as simplify it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      She wouldn’t even have to be his half sister. They’re fraternal twins. Just have that one parent is Japanese and he takes after the White Parent while she takes after the Asian

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Just have that one parent is Japanese and he takes after the White Parent while she takes after the Asian
        That is possible in real life but the chances of it actually happening is pretty slim.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Odds don't matter when making a character

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They need to make Betsy black by having her body swap with a black woman.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Marvel is absolutely not letting something like that bodyswap ever happen again
    Closest thing you'll get to that is to have both Betsy and Kwannon be merged into one being, and that will still tick people off (also good luck finding out how to do that)

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No, the bodyswap was moronic and should never have happened. Original Betsy was perfectly fine, and her personality just completly changed in the 90s when she became Blue Elektra.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Because they make your heckin epic autogynephilia cartoons?

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Please don't

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Couldn't they just retcon out Kwannon and make Psylocke a british caucasian ninja ?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Couldn't they just kill off an irrelevant character like Betsy so that Brain can be the one true Captain Britain again?

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone even like Captain Britain Betsy

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This is the THIRD series she's had the last two have been cut short one cancelled and the other turning into a mini at the last minute. Tini must give the best dome after Cates and Orlando if she keeps getting chances like this

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Fuse Betsy and Kwannon

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