No you dumbass.
You have Kwannon as Psylocke for that.
This ain’t 33 years ago. No more yellow face.
They’re not making Jean Mexican. They not making Rogue Indian.
Kwannon isn’t Betsy. It’s the same look but it’s not the same character. Hell even Betsy isn’t even remotely similar to who she’s been all these years and she is the same character. All they did was make both worse
Far as I remember, she was originally the British Jean Grey, someone with a lot of potential and power that she struggled her life to contain but gave her a sense of empathy that kept her from being a stuck up b***h like the rest of the X-men could unintentionally walk into. She also wasn't portrayed as scared or threatened by her powers like Jean was, considering she was in STRIKE, and between that and the glamorous aesthetics of the psionic butterfly power, she was portrayed as the nicer but potentially deadlier of the Braddock twins. Brian would have no patience for your bullshit, but Betsy losing patience with your bullshit would be a messier experience.
Then when she got bodyswapped, they parleyed her long time experience with psionics powers to make the cool looking psyblade and changed up her personality to be more "mature" and serious and at times at odds with her increasing level of personal aggression and emotional outbursts both from Kwannon's lingering influence and her increasing need to focus her psionic powers into far more outright lethal methods via brainstabbing.
At least, that's what I think people used to like about her. Nowadays, ever since they split both Betsy and Kwannon, it feels like all the self-control and self-doubting portions of Psylocke went to Kwannon while the residual increased aggression and power refinement evolved Betsy into a self-important b***h on par with Jean Grey. But, hey, maybe people like that? I can't account for their tastes though, they already have Emma Frost and Jean Grey and a dozen other psychics if they wanted another b***hy girlboss psychic lady mutant.
Yeah, I know it was a retcon, but I mentioned it just cause that's part of how they justified why she started turning into purple Elektra.
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Anonymous
I think the Kwannon storyline was stupid and just made things complicated, just like a lot of things in the 90.
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In fairness, it this was unintentional. Fabian Nicieza thought Psylocke's transformation was still unexplained and he was finally revealing what had happened. Then when they realized we already had an explanation, he had to do another story to try and fit everything together, and the continuity patch left it all stupid and complicated.
But it's been very effectively memoryholed, there are a lot of casuals who think Kwannon existed as a character before ninja Betsy happened, I've even seen people here who though she had fans.
>self-doubting portions of Psylocke went to Kwannon
I feel the opposite. The self doubting was dialed up to 10 with the new Betsy as she is far more timid and written with white guilt syndrome by having her apologize for being in Kwannons body even though she was an equal victim in the matter and had no choice to go back in her original body. Which made it annoying because now its written were she's being coddled by others going "there there" for some cheap pathos. Not to mention the CB title made her this weird stoic type she never was written as before to continue this apology tour narrative.
>Betsy will be asian again
I don't think so at least Marvel will do everything else under the sun before that point it's the only reason Kwannon is now a character with no explanation
>it's the only reason Kwannon is now a character with no explanation
it's hilarous, probably the most shameless "have their cake and eat it too". even ultra woke Marvel knows sexy ninja girl is more valuable than the captain Karen Tini writes
Maybe the third failed series in a row will finally do it
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Anonymous
even if it ends Tini's working relationship with Marvel I kinda doubt Jorden D White will make Brain Captain Britain again the only way that going to happen is if the MCU has Captain Britain as a character in a future film who is Brain Braddock
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Anonymous
Ah I thought you were talking about Tini but I think there's a decent chance he'll be CB again probably beside CB Betsy since a lot of these things end up reversed or at least someone may possibly write Betsy decently
There was nothing unique about Betsy hence why they gave her Captain Britain's name. And despite Betsy being Captain Britain, Betsy didn't inherit any of the Captain Britain powers. Nothing but standard telepathy and telekinesis.
>There was nothing unique about Betsy hence why they gave her Captain Britain's name
Yeah because they gave all her shit to Kwannon. Marvel should just fuse them again they both feel like hollow characters at the moment
No you dumbass.
You have Kwannon as Psylocke for that.
This ain’t 33 years ago. No more yellow face.
They’re not making Jean Mexican. They not making Rogue Indian.
All they did was take all of betsy characteristics name and powers and slap it on kwannon.
>All they did was take all of betsy characteristics name and powers and slap it on kwannon.
Pretty sure Betsy was never originally a cool but conflicted professional type, that's only a thing that happened when she got Kwannon's body, she had a history and character before that happened
>Pretty sure Betsy was never originally a cool but conflicted professional type,
That was her motto for the longest time even before yellow face if you read the outback era. Kwannon wasn't a character to begin with and all they did was take traits from betsy even from the beggining.
>Make Betsy asian again
Just stop her from being CB. That's it. She would be fixed. And give her a different costume. THis one was alright I guess but you always can design something better
She wouldn’t even have to be his half sister. They’re fraternal twins. Just have that one parent is Japanese and he takes after the White Parent while she takes after the Asian
>Just have that one parent is Japanese and he takes after the White Parent while she takes after the Asian
That is possible in real life but the chances of it actually happening is pretty slim.
Marvel is absolutely not letting something like that bodyswap ever happen again
Closest thing you'll get to that is to have both Betsy and Kwannon be merged into one being, and that will still tick people off (also good luck finding out how to do that)
No, the bodyswap was moronic and should never have happened. Original Betsy was perfectly fine, and her personality just completly changed in the 90s when she became Blue Elektra.
This is the THIRD series she's had the last two have been cut short one cancelled and the other turning into a mini at the last minute. Tini must give the best dome after Cates and Orlando if she keeps getting chances like this
Make good comics first.
No you dumbass.
You have Kwannon as Psylocke for that.
This ain’t 33 years ago. No more yellow face.
They’re not making Jean Mexican. They not making Rogue Indian.
Kwannon isn’t Betsy. It’s the same look but it’s not the same character. Hell even Betsy isn’t even remotely similar to who she’s been all these years and she is the same character. All they did was make both worse
Explain what is there to like about Betsy outside of being a coombait?
Far as I remember, she was originally the British Jean Grey, someone with a lot of potential and power that she struggled her life to contain but gave her a sense of empathy that kept her from being a stuck up b***h like the rest of the X-men could unintentionally walk into. She also wasn't portrayed as scared or threatened by her powers like Jean was, considering she was in STRIKE, and between that and the glamorous aesthetics of the psionic butterfly power, she was portrayed as the nicer but potentially deadlier of the Braddock twins. Brian would have no patience for your bullshit, but Betsy losing patience with your bullshit would be a messier experience.
Then when she got bodyswapped, they parleyed her long time experience with psionics powers to make the cool looking psyblade and changed up her personality to be more "mature" and serious and at times at odds with her increasing level of personal aggression and emotional outbursts both from Kwannon's lingering influence and her increasing need to focus her psionic powers into far more outright lethal methods via brainstabbing.
At least, that's what I think people used to like about her. Nowadays, ever since they split both Betsy and Kwannon, it feels like all the self-control and self-doubting portions of Psylocke went to Kwannon while the residual increased aggression and power refinement evolved Betsy into a self-important b***h on par with Jean Grey. But, hey, maybe people like that? I can't account for their tastes though, they already have Emma Frost and Jean Grey and a dozen other psychics if they wanted another b***hy girlboss psychic lady mutant.
Kwannon wan't even a thing when ninja psylocke happened.
Yeah, I know it was a retcon, but I mentioned it just cause that's part of how they justified why she started turning into purple Elektra.
I think the Kwannon storyline was stupid and just made things complicated, just like a lot of things in the 90.
In fairness, it this was unintentional. Fabian Nicieza thought Psylocke's transformation was still unexplained and he was finally revealing what had happened. Then when they realized we already had an explanation, he had to do another story to try and fit everything together, and the continuity patch left it all stupid and complicated.
But it's been very effectively memoryholed, there are a lot of casuals who think Kwannon existed as a character before ninja Betsy happened, I've even seen people here who though she had fans.
>maybe people like that?
they don't it be one of the consistent critiques of Howard's books is that she writes Betsy as a massive b***h
>self-doubting portions of Psylocke went to Kwannon
I feel the opposite. The self doubting was dialed up to 10 with the new Betsy as she is far more timid and written with white guilt syndrome by having her apologize for being in Kwannons body even though she was an equal victim in the matter and had no choice to go back in her original body. Which made it annoying because now its written were she's being coddled by others going "there there" for some cheap pathos. Not to mention the CB title made her this weird stoic type she never was written as before to continue this apology tour narrative.
>They’re not making Jean Mexican.
Well no, she's a redhead, they'll make her black.
>They’re not making Jean Mexican. They not making Rogue Indian.
Yet
Kek. White characters get raceswapped all the time. Betsy will be asian again
>Betsy will be asian again
I don't think so at least Marvel will do everything else under the sun before that point it's the only reason Kwannon is now a character with no explanation
>it's the only reason Kwannon is now a character with no explanation
it's hilarous, probably the most shameless "have their cake and eat it too". even ultra woke Marvel knows sexy ninja girl is more valuable than the captain Karen Tini writes
>the captain Karen Tini writes
shame they won't get rid of her though
Maybe the third failed series in a row will finally do it
even if it ends Tini's working relationship with Marvel I kinda doubt Jorden D White will make Brain Captain Britain again the only way that going to happen is if the MCU has Captain Britain as a character in a future film who is Brain Braddock
Ah I thought you were talking about Tini but I think there's a decent chance he'll be CB again probably beside CB Betsy since a lot of these things end up reversed or at least someone may possibly write Betsy decently
she needs to stop being captain Britain first which will only happen once Tini Howerd stops writing for Marvel
It'd be funny if she ends up being an asian Capt Britain in the mcu
>female character with a unique name and costume
>strip her off them and give her a male character's whole schtick
Umm how was that allowed
There was nothing unique about Betsy hence why they gave her Captain Britain's name. And despite Betsy being Captain Britain, Betsy didn't inherit any of the Captain Britain powers. Nothing but standard telepathy and telekinesis.
>There was nothing unique about Betsy hence why they gave her Captain Britain's name
Yeah because they gave all her shit to Kwannon. Marvel should just fuse them again they both feel like hollow characters at the moment
Did Betsy had a dead daughter who she wanted to bring back to life?
Did Kwannon have a psyknife, psionic butterfly and the Psylocke codename pre bodyswap
Those are superficial traits, I’m talking about character traits.
please, having a dead familiy member is as generic as it gets in capeshit
Not when it’s an offspring.
Does having a dead kid make you a deeper person?
Why does japan love her? I thought she was supposed to be racist to them
Most nippon dont know her origin, they just reconize her as sexy ninja lady.
Last japanese game she was on had her as british-japanese. The change only happened due to twittergays because Marvel loves appeasing them
And do they explain her background in the game?
That's racist anon
Cinemaphile looking at Psylocke
>Racebend more women into Asians
Cinemaphile looking at Velma
>No wait, not like that!
Asians>
Kill Betsy off permanently so that Brain can be Captain Britain again.
Won't fix how she's a selfish unlikeable c**t now, sadly
Betsy is a pretty shit character if her only redeeming quality is that she is wank off material.
Kwannon is fine she's all the best parts of Psylocke anyway. Betsy fricking suck ass and has only gotten worse
Modern Kwannon also turned out to be vastly superior character than modern Psylocke.
All they did was take all of betsy characteristics name and powers and slap it on kwannon.
>All they did was take all of betsy characteristics name and powers and slap it on kwannon.
Pretty sure Betsy was never originally a cool but conflicted professional type, that's only a thing that happened when she got Kwannon's body, she had a history and character before that happened
>Pretty sure Betsy was never originally a cool but conflicted professional type,
That was her motto for the longest time even before yellow face if you read the outback era. Kwannon wasn't a character to begin with and all they did was take traits from betsy even from the beggining.
>Make Betsy asian again
Just stop her from being CB. That's it. She would be fixed. And give her a different costume. THis one was alright I guess but you always can design something better
Honestly I'd just retcon her to be a British woman of Japanese descent and a half sister to Brian
The Japanese look is her most well known might as simplify it
She wouldn’t even have to be his half sister. They’re fraternal twins. Just have that one parent is Japanese and he takes after the White Parent while she takes after the Asian
>Just have that one parent is Japanese and he takes after the White Parent while she takes after the Asian
That is possible in real life but the chances of it actually happening is pretty slim.
Odds don't matter when making a character
They need to make Betsy black by having her body swap with a black woman.
Marvel is absolutely not letting something like that bodyswap ever happen again
Closest thing you'll get to that is to have both Betsy and Kwannon be merged into one being, and that will still tick people off (also good luck finding out how to do that)
No, the bodyswap was moronic and should never have happened. Original Betsy was perfectly fine, and her personality just completly changed in the 90s when she became Blue Elektra.
Because they make your heckin epic autogynephilia cartoons?
Please don't
Couldn't they just retcon out Kwannon and make Psylocke a british caucasian ninja ?
Couldn't they just kill off an irrelevant character like Betsy so that Brain can be the one true Captain Britain again?
Does anyone even like Captain Britain Betsy
This is the THIRD series she's had the last two have been cut short one cancelled and the other turning into a mini at the last minute. Tini must give the best dome after Cates and Orlando if she keeps getting chances like this
Fuse Betsy and Kwannon