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Why were the action scenes so moronic too?
It was directed by women, women don’t know good action.
israelite gaslight
Do you think people's memories got reset every so often so they didn't question why nothing advanced, or was it just that most of the people in the matrix were sheep
You could move most people to a literal slum and after some complaining they’d adjust perfectly to their situation
How do I know this? Look at how the people live around your country. Even in the suburbs there are lots of people who don’t maintain anything and are happy to sit in their own filth. It gets worse in the towns and worse still in the cities. These “people” would live in the same way in any era. They are completely replaceable and have no souls
Something on your mind, bro?
which people have souls and are irreplaceable
It’s obvious who has a soul. It’s that twinkle in the eyes that people have. They are special and all have the power to move great numbers of people. They love nature instinctively and harmonise with it. They love beautiful things and hate to be around decay. They don’t like to make others suffer.
Most people are just cold behind the eyes, they’d eat you in a heartbeat given the chance and until then they’ll lie and make you suffer for their benefit. They can’t stand the natural world and have been working hard to destroy it all their lives
>It’s that twinkle in the eyes that people have.
That "twinkle" is due too light hitting the lenses in our eyes. I was born with lens subluxation, which means my lenes slipped out of place and floated into the goo of my eye. This leads to terrible eyesight.
It also means my eyes do not twinkle, so do I have a soul???
It's ridiculous question if you where to meet me irl obviously, as i'm a ginger so this makes the whole discussion moot.
>that twinkle is light
No it isn’t. I’ve seen people with bright blue eyes that were just hollow and they exacted in the exact fashion I described negatively above. I’ve seen people with the darkest brown eyes with the twinkle, it has nothing to do with light. You can see there is something there that is not present in others
Maybe you have to be spiritual to notice this, but I’ve always noticed my fellow soul havers. Many times I’ve felt a pull towards a person and found the twinkling there
OK, name 5 high profile people with souls.
>but I’ve always noticed my fellow soul havers
It's really deep of you to have self-developed a sense of spirituality that makes you feel special
t. No soul
It’s always the people butthurt about it that don’t have the thing in question. Fox and grapes
no one who uses more than one type of punctuation at the end of a sentence has a soul.
I think he’s just a bit drunk, give him a break
I already said I was a ginger, i.e. "gingers don't have souls"
looking for reasons as to why I would be soulless seems kinda redundant.
Literally me
What do you do for fun?
The matrix resets every time the one reinserts the prime program. This happens every 100 years or so. That means the matrix initialises in the year 1900, since Neo's intended time to free it was 2000.
you saying the matrix might have restarted in 2001? mayhaps the date Neos passport runs out (9/11)?
deepest lore
But it's not real, why would someone want to live in a dream if it's not real?
Because if the actual real world is utter hell, then it's better to stay in the dream
>Unironically defending the blue pill
Pull yourself together. Be a man.
I'd agree with you except the world is completely destroyed and there is nothing worth fighting for at that point. Waking up to that and eating slop for the rest of your life is not being le based redpilled man
They choose the redpill, because they believe in a better future that's free of the machines. That's why they and the hundreds of thousands of others underground resist.
Nobody sane would take the redpill if they knew what it entails. Neo took the pill because it's a movie.
maybe I'd take the pill and collect some secrets the bots would want, and then bargain with the agents to be put back in as a billionaire, like the cue ball guy in the first movie. I wouldn't want them to erase my memory though, I would want to remember all of that.
>implying they don't throw you in the post birth abortion blender and feed you intravenously to the other batteries in the form of a homosexual smoothie
Fricking schmuck
no I trust them, not sure why but I do
We've had this discussion. The machines aren't cruel and have no reason to go back on their deal or renege. Imagine if word gets out the machines are turning your brains into applesauce if you try to bargain with them. They have nothing to gain from it, and could bargain with more humans in the future if word got out.
The Machines in the short stories relish their moral superiority and will never go back on a deal. They regard Humanity as vile, conniving "things" that need to get back in the fricking pod.
I would. Even with the sweaty black people I’d rather see reality than a fake. That’s why they all chose the red pill. Eventually the effect that blackened the sky would disappear, and eventually the humans would win against the machines. The Spanish took 800 years to win their lands back. Great empires lasted thousands of years then crumbled.
I'm sure you'd willingly abandon all the comforts of posting on Cinemaphile while eating normal food, just to have that pat on the back that you're the real deal!
I feel the same way as Neo in the film. I feel like everything accessible to me is completely pointless and distasteful. Everything is rigged to keep the status quo and putting your head above the parapet does not result in any change or reward just punishment. Most humans are so stupid and liars and I can’t relate to them at all. Everything does feel wrong
No I’d probably die really fast, I’m quite aware. But I’d rather live there if it’s real
>Everything does feel wrong
That's just your schizophrenia.
>its schizophrenic to recognize society is gamed to keep a certain group of people in power and everyone else as cattle.
I went on a walk today, warm weather, blue sky. Listened to the wind while sitting on a bench. Life is only shit if all your experience with it is browsing Cinemaphile. Which it probably is, judging from your moronic posts
>things are okay within my tiny bubble, as long as I ignore most things, that means things are okay
>i must think about the evil israelites 24/7 or i'm ignoring reality
This might be hard for you to comprehend, due to your low IQ, but you can be aware of how shit things are and... enjoy a walk.
The irony of this post. Enjoy your day lil bro
was that an attempt at a "no u?" directed at someone who is capable of enjoying walks and is aware of how shit things are right now?
I went on a walk today, I saw crackheads multiple times, heard black people shouting at each other, lots of selfish people got in everyone’s way and because it’s sunny all the idiots are forcing everyone to listen to their shit music
And no, there is nowhere really to move to that doesn’t have the same problems because the nice places are not affordable
Cinemaphile is genuinely a much more enjoyable place to be
Leave America then, I mean what else is there to say? You can't live on a desert and complain about lack of water
>dude just move to an even bigger shitole!
lmao
Just because moronic muricans has been told their entire lives in Black person school that they are numba wan it doesnt make it true. Muttistan is bar none the biggest shithole on earth.
stop being poor loser
OH SAY CAN Y'ALL SEE
>lives in evil world that nearly every human destroys little by little
>humans are deliberately made to suffer by other humans and are lied to daily
>”nope nothing wrong here”
>bleats
>um ackshully I would do really well during the apocalypse
homosexual alert! Everybody, we’ve got a homosexual over here!
>If I take the red pill I get to frick Trinity
>But If I take the redpill I get to live in shitty New York apartment with authentic red brick walls and a barcade down the street.
What if I told you, this isn't a tough decision?
(you)
and then people wonder why Cypher wanted back into the Matrix
i forget what happens exactly, did neo choose redpill *before* or after morph showed him the post-apocalyptic wasteland on the tv screen?
why haven't you watched the fricking movie?
i have, twice or thrice, just forget that detail.
no, you didn't watch the movie.
alright i'll go watch that specific scene. gosh!
brownoid, watch the movie, not youtube clips.
SIR DO NOT REDEEM THE SCENE
>nukes
>towers still standing
What did they mean by this?
id rather see the world as it "truly" is, even if it sucks balls
you say this but you're hiding in the comfort of your favorite familiar media website instead of being out there changing the world. the truth is that 99% of people would choose the comfort of the blue pill. you only need to look at real life to know this truth. if you think you would choose the redpill but you've spent your whole life choosing comfort as most Cinemaphileners have, you're just a delusional hypocrite.
the movie itself defends why someone would choose the blue pill. and why its a bad choice as well because a pick of either agents or sennitals will hunt you down.
the point was, that neo fought for the option to choose if you want to escape the matrix. by making an agreement with the architect, by ending the war.
"Why do you persist?!" "Because I choose to" its literally the best line from the films.
I think the movies are a interesting take if what if we had two compeiting intelligent species on our planet
Neo didn't agree with the architect at all. He did the opposite of what he was suppose to do. The oracle was manipulating everyone involved to end the war. She had all the necessary meta data to see the future and knew what choices everyone would make. It's why she let Smith incorporate her. She knew that trinity, neo, and Smith would force an alliance with the humans and end the war.
The movies were about choice but no one ever really made their own choices. The oracle just manipulated everyone to her plan to end the war.
the oracle herself said she truly doesn't really know what will actually happen. she can only predict. She is the yin to the architect (yang). "Manipulate" is a strong word in this sense. She nudged them towards a better future for both Man and Machine. Since she and the architect arequite literally, Computer Gods. She knew, the path of least resistance would not be war but co-existence, she needed to prove that to both humanity and the Architect. I believe you are right, she did manipulate but for a reason.
The big baby face wasn’t the architect.
Deus ex had to choose to trust a human. Neo had to choose Morpheus over himself. Trinity had to choose to help, multiple times. Morpheus was the only one on a flat trajectory. Cypher’s choices were also important, as were the choices of freeborn. Not to mention, they all had to choose, even at a subconscious level, to not accept the matrix.
The matrix plays with dualism, which is at odds with physical determinism.
The oracle knew of all their choices and probably guided them to those choices including Cypher. She's a super intelligence that knows every variable. She played off of probability, as she admits there was a chance of failure to the architect at the end. She was in the perfect position of power as everyone went to her for advice and she would tell them exactly what they needed to hear to get the outcome she wanted. Like telling neo he wasn't the one.
Argue about determinism all you want but given enough data and processing power you can guess the future with high probability. Like a super computer playing chess. The movies even say it was the oracles plan to end the war at the end. We just don't know what the probability for failure was.
We already have algorithms that predict shipping habits and voting trends based on the meta data of social media. Now imagine a system where every variable is known. The environment, people genetics, whether or not they'll accept the matrix.
To add, for all we know the oracle cutoffs have been planning since the first or second version of the matrix. The magic
Matrix world reached the singularity so there's no knowing how much processing power the machines had. There's no telling what a super intelligence is capable of. Especially one designed to think like a human like the oracle was.
>given enough data and processing power you can guess the future with high probability
It’s canon the oracle picked a bunch of losers for Morpheus to call “the one.”
>Be a man.
hard to do when he cut off his nuts and inverted his pp
>Pull yourself together. Be a man.
says some gay wasting his time on a Nepalese finger painting forum
So you would choose to inject yourself in a dream like state permanently and make it so you're not aware of it then live a real life?
Grow some fricking balls
hi Cypher
spoken like a true slave
You're an actual NPC
troony mindset
What idealism does to a mf
No it is not you damn sheep.
you first
this is why the Matrix's premise isn't moronic, because the entire serie's most important question is one that divides a lot of people
would you rather live a pleasant lie or an awful truth?
There's nothing pleasant about the real world. They made a pleasant matrix and literally everyone rejected it.
There's homelessness, violence, drug use, gangs, and wars in the matrix. Neo was already rejecting his pleasant life by being a secret hacker. He was a criminal.
>>But it's not real, why would someone want to live in a dream if it's not real?
How good is your life that this is a serious question?
>dreams
>not real
realer than real life
A comfy illussion is better than an ugly reality
You are brown.
It doesn't matter if it's not real.
Money isn't real either, but you waste most of your life over it. People kill over it. People die because of it.
Value is not a human perception. Every animal had a value system. For food, for shelter, warmth, sex.
Money is a physical manifestation of value. Just as food is valuable, it allows you to get what you need. Even apes know how to barter with food.
It's an abstract representation of value, not a physical manifestation of value. Even when precious metals are used as money, it's value as money isn't dependent on it's value as a material good. Golds value as money is still an abstraction.
>For food, for shelter, warmth, sex.
Money is a physical manifestation of value
No, the things you just listed are a physical manifestation of value, and they also exist in human relationships. Money in a simplified abstract representation of value, and it’s always fluctuation in its worth, just like any other value.
Hey atheists, if money isn’t real then why do I have so much of it? Checkmate.
Why indeed
I get what you're saying, but Morpheus himself says in the first Matrix film that if you define 'real' by what you can see, hear, smell, taste and touch, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain. So how are the electrical signals interpreted by your brain in the Matrix any different from the electrical signals interpreted by your brain in the so-called 'real world'?
because with dualism, quantum physics, the electrical signals can come from outside newtonian reality, which is the only level of reality the machines can comprehend.
So?
Vanilla Sky was kino
You know, Nietzsche went insane asking why should someone prefer the truth over a lie.
It's best not to ponder such things.
nietzsche went insane because he couldn't find the sources of truth and lies. also syphilis
Same difference.
this isn't reddit, you don't get upvotes/gold for that.
no it was because he fricked a prostitute and got syphilis.
look at all these gnostic gays responding
fricking hedonist! Hope you choke on your own pleasures and die an embarrassing death
People are always living in a dreamlike state of reinforced delusions.
There is nothing more real than coming to understanding of how flawed and pointless life of a human is. On a grand scale of things your actions mean nothing, your deeds won't be remembered even your DNA will run thin, disappear without a trace.
You take a "red pill" in a hope of a change, trading comfy illusion to something that has more "weight" to it. A more socially acceptable approach, right side of the history, a "good fight". But everything you need in your life is an aim and something you genuinely enjoy doing.
The only world that matters is the one you create, as this is the essense of a choice and expression of free will.
This is some quasi intellectual bullshit that only delusional homosexuals and trannies believe.
>just create your own world bruh
Next entry in the Vanilla Sky Extended Cinematic Universe when?
dream > nightmare
Neo didnt know the real world is a shithole. Morpheus tricked him
I'm sure Neo had at least some idea that the real world wasn't a paradise.
The thing about Matrix is that all the people who wakes up in the real world knows there is something wrong and this thought torments them, Neo felt like shit even if his job wasn't that demanding. This apply to gays like Cypher, they can't live like a regular person in the matrix so when he made the deal with Smith he asked for his memory to be erased, thinking that will make his life any more tolerable, at the end it's not that they think the matrix is real, is that they're too scared of dying.
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Entered this thread because I wanted this to exist, thank you anon for your service
10/10
>active social life
Rightoids would rather be an ignorant slave than have to see sweaty black people dancing.
yes
>comfy office job
>Come to the real world! We have filthy raves where you can be splashed with dreadlock juice!
There's nothing filthy about it. That's just your prejudice assigning negative things to it. It's just a fun party where everyone gets a beautiful nubian queen that loves white boys.
Post the meme
That wasn't the real world remember.
>Put me back in
You guys think he's mad about his porn prostitute daughter?
I would for sure hang out eating rare steak with Cipher in the Matrix all day. Frick the "real world."
its very simplified gnosticism which the trannies weren't even trying to hard to hide there are references to it all the time in ship names etc
What part of "All I’m offering is the truth, nothing more" do you people not get.
>he said calmly
>gain super powers
>gain super intelligence where you can learn anything instantly
>have simulations where you can eat whatever you want
>awesome simulation video games
>bang hot blondes in red dresses
Wow getting out of the matrix would suck.
He's a hero so he sacrifices his own comfort to fight for what is true and good.
More like he got magical powers inside the matrix and felt like God
I would spend all my time in simulations having hot sex with Ana de Armas and Scarborough. Or playing counterstrike simulations with other zioners.
The food in zion probably wouldn't be that bad. Their machines could grow fresh vegetables and if you want variety you could just have simulated meals. They have machines doing all the work so you could just spend all day cooking and playing video games in simulations. It would be awesome. You don't have to work on a ship.
>Scarborough
ScarJo. Have no idea what that other word is but my phone does.
Town in Bongland lol.
It's also a town in Canada and the USA. Probably Australia and New Zealand too
he fights for a bunch of Black folk in a cave, he's like some kinda leftoid Superman
YES GOY WE NEED YOU TO BE A HUMAN BATTERY FOR OUR OWN NEFARIOUS GAINS
its a movie for white people, of course you're not going to understand.
Matrix is moronic because the alternative to our world is a complete desolate shithole filled with filthy Black folk and barely edible slop, humanity was fricking finished at that point
Office jobs are soul crushing. I am not really alive honestly. More like a plant.
The robots have can fly and have antigravity shit, they can certainly build rockets. Why don't the just leave earth?
There's so many better power options than "human batteries"
Nuclear power
Fusion power
just go all out on geothermal power
movie makes no sense
>Why don't the just leave earth?
because they don't want to get fried by the giant emp cloud?
>ACHSHUALLY
the machines had the capacity to travel beyond the the sun cloud/nanite shroud/gooey shit. "Goliath" is an official short story in "The Matrix Comics Volume 1" where the machines launch a man in a rocket into space fight aliens or some dumb shit, idk, the synopsis sounded fricking moronic even by comic standards.
But the point is, the machines where able to send one of there machine ships into space. If they did it once they can do it again and spread to a new world.
>the machines could send a man through the machine-frying emp cloud, that means they could go through the machine-frying emp cloud
https://matrix.fandom.com/wiki/Goliath#Story
No his ship doesn't seem like it's been affected by this EMP cloud at all. Pretty unclear why they would need a man at all, obviously they wouldn't, the reader needs a man though, so there's a man.
The clouds were created to block the sun since solar power was the machines power source. It wasn't created to prevent them to get into space. They are fricking machines. They could just build a moon base with solar panels again and live in peace.
It doesn't take much to block emps. The US built massive wooden structures in the desert to host airplanes and test emp effects on them. They solved that shit during the cold war. A super intelligent ai race would have no problem with any of it.
The only way for the matrix to make sense is that the machines keep the humans enslaved out of spite. That's it.
>the cloud that knocks out the power of the one hovercraft we see go through it would not knock out the power of machine lifeforms that went through it
>They would be able to get into space easily.
>make big ass pipe
>liiiiiift big ass pipe so that it pokes through cloud layer
>no clouds inside pipe
>machines just use pipe to safely go from one side of cloud to the other
The hovercraft that neo piloted was also able to "re-start" after punching through the cloud layer. So a "machine" may be able to as well.
it was able to "restart" because there were living people on it capable of "jump starting" it.
These sound like reasonable criticisms you should have brought up with the troony sisters before they had had a comic that directly contradicted the established canon.
But now it exists.
And it's canon.
>Goliath is a short story written by Neil Gaiman
I wondered why you included a # in your link
Because I pressed CTRl + c CTRl + v on the matrix Wiki?
It might be a shitty story (comic) but it's still canon.
>not written by the wachowskis
So… not canon.
I know the truth hurts, but this is how business works, this is how franchises works. The "Wachowskis sisters" sold out the integrity of their stories canon for some cash and now it's got shitty stories like this in it. You b***hing and moaning won't change the stories status.
>performs mental gymnastics to claim a non-canon story is canon
No one is trolled bruh. You already got schooled about graphene, why subject yourself to further embarrassment?
>claim a non-canon story is canon
>The Matrix Comics Volume 1
>published online on the official Warnerbros website
>The first story "Bits and Pieces" was written by the Wachowski's
As far as comic tie ins to a movie go, it could not be more canon than it is.
Sorry bro, not defending the comic book by neil gaiman the other poster mentioned, but its well accepted that the canon is comprised by more than just the movies in the matrix franchise.
The website that had short stories is 100% canon.
Matrix Online was also canon at some point before Matrix 4 retconned it.
This is not a Star wars thing with different levels of canon. All of it was created and/or supervised by the trannoskis. Do your homework before trying to school anyone.
>tries to samegay and responds to himself
lmao
the the matrix 4 doesn't contradict the MMO, it takes place after it.
>Matrix Online was also canon at some point before Matrix 4 retconned it.
Matrix Online is still canon though. That's why Morpheus is dead and they had that statue of him in Resurrections.
It's so fricking funny people unironically complaining about a space between lines when this shit was done way back then
It's a fantastic newbie election tourist detector
They say in the movies that the power comes from the heart generated by humans and also a form of fusion power. It's like saying a 747 is powered by rubber bands oh and also 4 turbo jet engines. It's really dumb.
yes, the executive forced change from using humans as processors to using them for electricity is really dumb.
What active social life? Neo is incel with no friends. LMAO
gooning with Mouse is better than being a wagie
>comfy office job and active social life
>neo
Did you not watch the film?
what illegal stuff was Neo selling anyway?
Pretty sure it was just computer viruses or worms and shit
>selling computer viruses while inside a computer program
my mind is le blown
he was a hacker.
It was a program to hack into some sort of police database and erase parking tickets (and probably speeding tickets too).
The minidisc that Neo hands over has to be an audio recording. Those types of minidisc could only hold audio. My guess is that it’s blackmail or maybe these sounds to get high level access through phones.
>The minidisc that Neo hands over has to be an audio recording. Those types of minidisc could only hold audio. My guess is that it’s blackmail or maybe these sounds to get high level access through phones.
Could've easily been data encoded into audio. Remember loading old commadore games by putting a tape into them and pressing play?
Those sounded awful.
are we sure it could only hold audio? TDK XG-SP 74 was the model I found, nothing that strictly says audio tho
Mini cds can hold 155MB of data. They aren't audio only.
That's a lot of space for the 90s
Just wait till you hear about ZIP disks.
Regular cds hold 700MB and they've been around a lot longer before the matrix came out.
>what is emp shielding
>what are traditional rockets
Graphene with an electrical charge passing through it prevents radiation and would stop any emp like effects. Again, this is current day technology. In the matrix universe one of the big problems the machines cause was how fast their technology outgrew human tech which made humans afraid of the machines in the first place. They would be able to get into space easily.
go google graphene radiation shielding real quick. tell me what you see.
??? That is an effective way to reflect radiation. What are you trying to get at. It's a much better solution than using heavy lead caskets. They probably use graphene to protect pills in nuclear powered air planes since lead was too heavy. If such planes exist, which they probably do now since they've been working on them since the 60s.
it "reflects" (actually redirects down the film) sub-terahertz electrical radiation, and only most of it, which isn't enough to prevent damage.
>pills
Pilots. Low thrust of nuclear engines were too weak to carry the heavy lead protecting the pilots. Using graphene would solve that problem and give you a plane that could stay in the air for months.
https://www.graphenemex.com/en/solutions-with-graphene/graphene-oxide/coatings-en/electronic-industry/graphene-in-protection-against-electromagnetic-radiation/#:~:text=The%20electrical%20conduction%20capacity%20and,homogeneous%20films%20that%20block%20radiation.
Anon please.
CDRs wouldn't exist for years. CD-RWs for another couple years.
>CDRs wouldn't exist for years
Say what? They were well known in the mid-90s.
That specific minidisc can only hold up to 74m of audio.
>MiniDisc is an erasable magneto-optical disc-based data storage format offering a capacity of 60, 74, and later, 80 minutes of digitized audio
Was neo selling mixtapes?
>of digitized audio
which means it can contain any digital information.
The minidisc must have a different logo to hold data.
That's a gamecube minidisc
It's got Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess on that bad boy.
It was the last recording of the mein kampf audio book read by hitler himself
roms of Nintendo games
sick frick
why do tvedditors suck off rorschach for being true to himself and refusing to live a lie but when it comes to matrix they turn into full blown npc drones?
Because it's easy to see that the Matrix would achieve their dreams of a VR gf. They're losers. They'd rather have a fake gf than the real thing. Sure women are annoying, but they want a gf that is a slave to them and acts perfect in every way. Something impossible for any human to do. They would support humanity's enslavement if it means they get a VR gf. That's how pathetic they are. They support trans humanism because they want VR gfs.
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the difference is that in matrix you are forced to live a boring life but in reality you can just replug into matrix and design whatever you want for yourself
we're the machines actually going to honor cypher's deal
>in the dystopian Matrix Neo has an entire quiet apartment to himself
Jesus Christ what is this hell
no shit, the redpill is hard to swallow, that's the point of the movie m8
post the webm of morpheus busting through the wall
love all the basedboys itt acting like they'd be tough guy freedom fighters kek, two days without vidya and mommy making you tendies and you'd murder everybody on that sub with a fricking butterknife to be put back in.
First off, you're a homosexual. Second, not everyone freed works on a ship. They probably have lab grown meet and underground farms for fresh food. I'm pretty sure there was fresh food people were offering him as tribute when he got off the elevator when he got to zion. Even then, you could scarf down the oatmeal and have delicious tendies in a simulation.
The unlimited possibilities of simulations would make living in zion worth it. It would be a coomers dream world.
ackshually they have automated machines making all their food/air in zion. they only start doing it themselves in 4.
>I'm pretty sure there was fresh food people
>fresh food people
They farm em, just cut off a slice. Delicious!
he was offered two pills
What about a third pill? Accept reality and continue a peaceful existence.
Purple pill?
Green pill?
I believe the Machines are taking care of the human race the best they can.
They give the beligerant, driven people a pointless cause to fight for, a common enemy to avoid human-human war, while keep everyone else safe in pods, without any disease, and with enough nutrients and resources to keep a person alive from birth to death of natural causes. Somehow!
Plenty of debunks already proven that the battery nonsense is unsustainable. Machines know nuclear physics, they know how to mine uranium and build efficient atomic energy.
The Redpill reality is just another layer simulation to keep the violent urges entertained. No one ever left their pods.
It's impressive that people this bluepilled can actually exist
so... purple pill?
It was always odd to me that no one ever questions whether the "real world"is just another simulation. Like, that would be the first question I would ask when unplugged. You would be mind fricked forever never knowing if life is real or not. Especially when neo starts wirelessly destroying the machines.
There was another movie that did this though. I think it was called 13th floor.
Where is the evidence that the real world is a simulation?
Neo was wirelessly still connected to the matrix
Did he have a wireless organ or cybernetic implant or something. Are the sentinels constantly connected to the matrix too? What about the bombs shot at the ship when they approached the machine city. It makes no sense that they would be connected to anything related to neo. Same for the power lines, how was he connected to those.
You don't need evidence there is another layer of the simulation. That would defeat its purpose. If it existed they would need to be fooled by it. Neo doing what he does in the real world would throw up some red flags.
Zion was a robot creation. All humans initially pulled out are cyborgs. They probably all have wireless implants so they can be tracked when the inevitable slaughter happens.
The One has admin level computer access, he just doesn't realise it applies to the real world until he goes blind, then the wireless signals allow him to view the real world. Wifi signals can be used to map out rooms. The CIA has the technology to do this TODAY, remotely without you knowing.
Because there’s no one telling them what they can and can’t do. There’s no “choice” whether to accept the real world or not
i believe this as well
but it still doesnt answer why the machines are doing it
its because humans offer and come from something they can't, in pure materialist reality, quantify.
Because the humans tried to kill the machines. The machines don't want to kill the humans but they want to get rid of them as a threat.
I mean, in reality we are probably already living in a simulated universe anyways so why would another sim matter. The only difference is we haven't invented our own simulations for entertainment purposes or educational download of information. These are the only benefits of the machine world. Everything else sucks.
Because they chose to.
>Neo, release your full potential inside and outisde of the Matrix
>le premise is fricking moronic, you know....
So are trannies in the real world biological women in The Matrix? Doesnt Morpheus say something about your Matrix version of you being your residual self? So how do you end up with trannies in the Matrix? Or are the male trannies the Matrix actually women in the real world?
>So how do you end up with trannies in the Matrix?
From what Morpheus says no one in the matrix would ever troon out because they should already appear in the matrix as they see themselves.
I think you might be moronic
90s hacking aesthetic is so comfy. Imagine being neo and spending all day with normies making big bucks developing software for boomers and then hacking during the night and being invited to cool parties and fricking rave bunnies. FRICK MORPHEUS
Neo just autistically stands around the rave until trinity approaches him. There is also the fact neo is perfectly OK murdering dozens of men to save morpheus, someone he just met. Like he doesn't even hesitate to kill those people. Neos mental state was fricked from the beginning.
>muh matrix citizens!
they had accepted the lie, and would die to defend it
No, they were just cops guarding a random government office. They didn't know anything about Morpheus and the agents.
Anyone who is plugged into the Matrix, is an active threat to their rebel organization.
The Matrix is an even better film if you imagine it as a lot of dreamings Neo have, mixed up with some paranoid schizophrenia. He happens to be a talented programmer, he gets connected to two known terrorists and is brainwashed into their cult-like doctrine of terrorist atracks and mass-shooting.
From that point on, he shaves, starts practicing some martial arts, learns how to use guns, goes on a completely insane rampage in the city, kills innocent guards on a military facility, blows up an elevator, kills more guards, steals a chopper, kills more people, rescues the terrorist, then blow the chopper on another building. After that he kills a homeless man throwing him in the subway rails after a psychotic paranoid break, steals a phone, runs through the city seeing "agents" everywhere and, in the end, gets shot and dies. His last seconds of conscience are filled with the dream of being reborn, winning the fight and flying away as Superman.
Also Trinity is a troony he sees as female.
- I tought you were a man
- Most people do
It worked as a decent science fiction for one movie. that's about it.
The desire for reality is something zoomers unironically can't understand. They hate free speech, mock the idea of personal freedom, the idea of being an unwitting slave in a gilded cage is highly appealing to them. They've lost something human, the internet has taken a shit in their brain. A future dominated by these people will be the stuff of nightmares.
You're forgetting that the reality in question is a fat negress twerking over ruins.
I don't get it either. The machines want to the matrix to continue forever, then what?
I'll do anything to live in a world without Black folk, troons and similar trash.
congratulations! you're already brown!
How does pregnancy work in the matrix again?
If I got a woman pregnant in the matrix do the robots in the real world extract my cum and shoot it into said woman?
they grow people. if you frick a b***h they just give you a random pod person to care for
So this movie is a litmus test for manhood. Only a worthless, spineless wormy, israelite homosexual would take the blue pill and live in dream world because it's more comfortable. BE A FRICKING MAN
you've got it wrong. the promise of touching a vegana has gotten people to embrace complete slavery for the promise of being able to nut in a b***h
>neo is never once informed of the state of the real world
>neo is never informed of the ongoing war the humans are losing
>neo is never informed that he’ll be eating protein slop
>neo is never informed that he’ll be living in squalor on a salvage parts ship with zero personal space
Cypher is correct, Morpheus misled everyone with their grass is greener nonsense. Had they known what the real world was like they’d have never agreed to leave their dream in the first place.
the truth is worth more than any worldly comfort, rajesh
>I’d rather live in a hellscape than as close to perfection as possible.
Cool it with your Anthony Bourdain act, moron, you haven’t experienced the depths of depravity that humans can subsist. Living packed like a sardine in a tin can isn’t a life at all.
rajesh, its okay. we know you won't understand. that's why we outsourced so many jobs to you
I don’t think you understand just what kind of life you’d be living at Zion, or on board the Nebuchadnezzar. Most of us have never lived such awful and horribly low lives. In your fantasy you’d really love to be Neo, but in reality you’d be one of the nameless causalities of the war. And what would you be fighting for, the endless cycle of human rebellion against a monstrous machine superstructure? A war that is impossible to win? People like you talk big, yet lay lame and meek while the very machine that controls our lives every day encroaches evermore upon our liberties.
You’re lying to yourself if you really think you’d live that world, because you can do it right now and you aren’t.
lmao, rajesh, you're living the live you'd live no matter what reality was exposed to you
Keep telling yourself, aloft in your ivory tower of 21st century capitalism, that’d you’d live like they do. It’s really funny to hear people who have no idea how much they have to lose proudly exclaim how happy they’d be to give it all up.
>when rajesh rejaeshes harder to to try to no u
LMAO
Keep ramming your red pill suppositories up your ass Eric I’m sure you’ll wake up one day!
please proceed to the designated shitting street poojinda
The people of zion aren't fighting a war. They are just living out their lives, probably spending a lot of time in simulations for recreation since machines take care of everything. You'll just be sitting in your apartment fricking celebrities and playing halo sims as Spartans with your fellow zioners. Sure it sucks that zion gets sacked every hundred years but in that time you get to grow old cooming and playing games all day. It would be paradise.
YOU ARE THE SAME AS THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO KEEP THE BOTS, AND THEY FLED AND MADE THEIR OWN CITY
FRICK YOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUU
Every last one of you would have a nice day experiencing a single week in that world. Think of the countless people Morpheus tricked into leaving because he said they were the chosen one. Morpheus has his namesake for a reason.
No I'm pretty sure I would be too busy fricking Ana de Armas in simulated worlds to give a frick about anything else. I've also spent four years in state prison so the food wouldn't bother me. I would just eat enough to stay alive and gorge myself on delicate meals in the sims. Then I would frick Ana again.
Life would be fricking awesome.
It's about TRUTH. Not your fricking fast food and porn
It's never said how long they stay on the Cera.. for all we know they return to zion every week for resupply and rest. The food there is better and he probably gets his own apartment. Plus neo seems to really enjoy the simulations, especially downloading shit directly into his brain. Also gaining super powers so you are pretty much invincible would be awesome for anyone.
frick you bot sympathizer
No way, the sense of superiority the redpills would feel compared to the rest of humanity would be intoxicating. It may be a harder life, but KNOWING that you are better than almost everybody else outweighs creature comforts.
>Warner Bros. has announced that a fifth "Matrix" movie is in the works.
pls be gud
pls be gud
pls be gud
it will be worse than 4. lana did everything he told them to
>Zion level is still not the real world
WTF
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
okay, neo sees code and has powers in 'the real world'
wtf does this mean
smith transfers himself to a human body too?
ahh my brain
>By copying himself onto a human redpill in the process of disconnecting from the Matrix, Smith overwrites their consciousness and takes control of their body in the real world.
I'm amazed at how better of a search engine Google is now.
Yeah his consciousness just overwrites the other guys. People would have to have modified brains in order to interface with the matrix anyways so they are all part machine and ai. It's really not that hard to understand
and because the machines know EVERYTHING about the human body, they can do things like this
but how does neo have powers when he is in the real world, anyone??
o noe wait, he might have done what smith did. they should have explained that in the films. I wa always hung up that having powers meant that was just another level of matrix
This is exactly what I thought when I was like 10 and first saw this movie, everyone laughted at me.
We now know that the most unrealistic thing about the Matrix movie is the idea that the machines would have to force and deceive humans to live in the pods. We literally need 0 convincing.
>yes, i am brown
but how could you be brown in the first world in 1999?
>everyone laughted at me.
We still are, kid
They could have so easily simply made humans computers for the machines instead of batteries. It would have improved the intelligence AND the subtext of the franchise.
>The System is actually making you stupider and you have to wake up in order to think correctly and know the truth
Well they made everyone into some kind of cyborg. Who knows what modifications they made to humans in order to hook them into the matrix with the ability to download information directly into the brain. They all probably have some kind of ai chips installed. Plus all the feeding tubes and shit. All the people in the pods are part machine.
>They could have so easily simply made humans computers
yeah, thats the original script. but WB executives didn't understand distributed processing.
I think everyone who watched the Matrix assumed that it's like our world, with potential for happiness and sorrow.
When Agent Smith does his speech about how humans rejected the "perfect" Matrix, we assume the machines then just made a "normal" Matrix.
But then it doesn't really make sense for humans to rebel against it so strongly. The real world is a shit hole, you'll have more opportunity for happiness in the Matrix.
So my conclusion is that the Matrix is meant to be a world of suffering. The simulation is meant to give you this life of drudgery. You'll never get a trad wife and retire to the country with tons of kids.
I'd take it even one step further and assume that maybe lots of people you build relationships with are just NPCs. Maybe even your kids. Then when your body dies all that stuff is just tossed out. No legacy.
None of it comes across too clearly in the movies. I think the Wachowskis are too out of touch with reality so for them the office job and the house wife are the ultimate depictions of human suffering, but for normal people we see that we think, "I could improve that life if it were me"
Thank you for your time,
Anon/Fren/Lover
Can you insert code into the Matrix? Like I can make me a Moner sex slave and live in pure bliss
That's what mouse is for. He could design you any girl you wanted. The matrix is a coomers dream. Even more so than star trek.
Coomers will always support this shit. That's why they suck. They'll support our enslavement for fake pussy.
I mean, what else would you want to do with your life. Frick the hottest girls you could ever dream of while living out fantasies like playing a simulated world of war craft, halo, counterstrike, raceways, kung-fu fights, the possibilities are endless.
Our would you rather sit in your room shitposting on Cinemaphile all day.
Seriously though, why did the fat one troon out too?
>go to catholic school
>get us to read tuck everlasting
>book about eternal life is bad
>be good christian and your reward is eternal life
which is it christgays
yes i realize i should pretended to be a good little christgay, but i post on Cinemaphile so there you go
Anytime someone would be like "WHAT IF WE ARE ACTUALLY IN A SIMUATION" I just don't really care. All I know is this life I've lived here, so even if it's technically fake it's still real to me.
I'm guessing the type of person who would relate to Neo taking the redpill are people who aren't very content with their lives and reality as we know it.
epic missed a letter in my post moment
social life
dude went outside once and had a hag telling him he's the one
nothing good comes out of going outside
indoor life for life son
He got tricked too. Thought Trinity was a fellow bro hacker. Turns out she's an icky female
How did both Wachowski brothers end up trooning out? Did one of them convince the other to troon out?
Across the past two decades we've seen countless of works dealing with this very same theme, but the reaction seems to have evolved over time
>late 90s/early 00s
>"wow, human civilization will be living in an idle stagnant virtual simulation? that's messed up"
>now
>"wow sign me up"
What changed?
Marche was right
What changed was our leaders flooding our countries with brown hordes then destroying our quality of life with the covid lie which has made everything shitty and expensive
At this point plug me in. Reality is terrible
They've broken every young man's spirit and all it took was a few years of demoralization
Modern men think it's reasonable to pay real money to online strippers because it gives them a high when the stripper says their name and that's just one example of men settling for fake garbage
the Matrix is not as illusion though.
If you were born in NYC and lived there for 30 years then some shmuck told you that you live in a dream and he'll show you reality, only to take you to some tribal village in Africa, would you actually manage to adapt to it?
People born in the Matrix had their whole perception of reality shaped by it, even if they were to leave it, their psyche would still be under its rules and structures.
the only reason this debate happens when it comes to the Matrix is because Zion is not all that different from it when it comes to its rules and structure, had Zion been some weird ass foreign reality where Neo couldn't even grasp what he was looking at no one would be making the argument that the Matrix wasn't real.
>post on Cinemaphile
>learn about reddit
man reddit is gay i want to go back
always tell them to go back anon
It's an allegory for being gay and in the closet and other gays dragging you into their (underworld) world.
Sequels expanded upon that.
First movie:
>Wake up Neo, we gotta fight the power
Second movie:
>Uh oh, the fight was pre-planned by the power, and we need to break the cycle
Third movie:
>The people and the power need to reach a compromise, because neither can survive without the other
The robots explained that the original Matrix was a paradise but that the humans chimped out. Maybe its all about humans want to destroy good things and never realizing how good they have it.
>destroyed society by creating robots who would obviously dominate them
>destroyed the actual Earth leaving it a wasteland
>planning to destroy the Matrix so they can live in caves with Black folk and mutts and eat paste
cypher was right
some people value authenticity... the whole idea is only certain individuals recognize the matrix is a lie and it bothers them so much they need to free themselves from it no matter what.
if ur a blue pill fine but being proud of it is gay. some people prioritize truth over comfort.
Yes just like with Fight Club people were having it too good the 90'
I'd actually have been completely okay with living in Zion instead of Matrix if Zion wasn't full of Black folk.
After his daughter did porn Morpheus betrayed Zion.
What's this weird obsession with freedom?
Isn't it better to have a fair master than being free in a cruel world that won't care for you?
Because those on top are never fair. There's a reason why most ceos are sociopaths and you never hear about a good Ceasars or kings. Or hear anything good about China or Russia. Those in power will do anything to stay in power.