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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thanks for letting us all know you have shit taste

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's great, but picrel is ever greater.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >i like Lain because it's a good show and definitely not because it stars an underage girl
      Yeah right

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I didn't really understand it

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's definitely a high degree of a schizophrenia, but the general idea is that we live in a simulation that we must recognize as illusory in order to realize the optimal state of being. Lain was a kind of messiah figure, much like Neo or Christ. In fact, if I remember correctly, Lain was actually referred to as "the one" on more than one occasion.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        technology bad

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Basically, there's this girl who is God, but she doesn't know it and wouldn't believe you if you told her. In fact, telling her would kill you because her disbelief in your words would manifest into reality and you wouldn't exist. Everything that she wants to happen will happen, but in a way that maintains her delusion of not being God. She wants aliens to exist and they do, but they hide from her. She wants summer to never end, so she enters a groundhog day loop over and over until something random makes her not think that.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Isn't that The Melancholy of... something something?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's Haruhi, you gigagay

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In the past the one tech company accidentally breached heaven or a divine space like it, during testing of the new Wired upgrade. Through their experiments they accidentally manifest(kidnap) Lain. Lain gets set up with her foster family and is kept under observation. Due to the Wireds intrinsic overlap with that heavenly realm, weird shit keeps happening that eventually kicks off the drama of the series like the nightclub incident and the one girl massaging everyone from the afterlife. Lain is inexorably drawn to the wired as its partially her natural habitat. Eventually she reaches apotheosis and becomes divinity through the worship of others and her own deep love of humankind, that's the dinner table scene with her father(god). She choses anonymous divinity to keep her loved ones safe and happy.

        It's not that complicated.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not as good as Akira, Perfect Blue, or vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust, that's for sure.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If it wasn't for Amano's art we wouldn't have D so ill back him when I can, Nomuras still weird though.. Charecters hes fine at but NEVER give him creative control over plot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Perfect Blue

      The middest anime ever made.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Unironically the best anime ever made. Not only the best anime, one of the best movies. 1997 was a strong year, but Perfect Blue might be the best movie of that year.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's good but not even Kon's best or second best

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >1997
          Flubber beats it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bloodlust is pretty and nothing else. OG Vampire Hunter D better captures the weird retro-futurism of The Frontier and tells a better paced story to boot. It is based on better source material though so it is understandable.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Bloodlust is pretty and nothing else.

        uh huh, and? These are films, not books. If you want deep stories, go elsewhere. Bloodlust may be the prettiest animated film ever, and in contention for prettiest film ever. The wonky faces are the only real let down.

        I'm a GITS fanboy and rewatched it recently, it's actually quite disappointing. Just like in Psycho Pass, they just cite philosophers and drop "philosophical" dialogue out of place, when it should all have subtly arisen from the plot instead. I still like it a lot because there's not enough cyberpunk-noir-political thriller with gorgeous animation around, but I don't love it anymore.

        Again, read a book. It's basically an art film with a few glorious action scenes thrown in. It's both aestetic and beauty porn. Oshii isn't deepp enough to really tackle issues, so he just sets them up and lets the characters angst aobut them but he has no solutions. If you want deep answers read a book.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Watch more animation moron. Classic Disney films did some straight up wizardry when it came to pioneering animation techniques and were made by some of the most talented artists of all time in any medium.
          If you want something more recent, Chomain's "The Illusionist" is also a prettier and better animated film than Bloodlust.

          This is irrelevant though since Bloodlust is pretty but has poor aesthetic sensibilities and fails to communicate the atmosphere or 'feeling' of both the story and the setting. If art can be said to have a purpose, it is to make the viewer feel something. Original VHD film maintains a better atmosphere and emotional impact than Bloodlust. You want a pretty man with a weird face? Look at a painting. The use of color, shot composition, and consistent aesthetic style in VHD is superior to Bloodlust.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Akira only has visuals going for it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        and soundtrack

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If it wasn't for Amano's art we wouldn't have D so ill back him when I can, Nomuras still weird though.. Charecters hes fine at but NEVER give him creative control over plot.

      Bloodlust is pretty and nothing else. OG Vampire Hunter D better captures the weird retro-futurism of The Frontier and tells a better paced story to boot. It is based on better source material though so it is understandable.

      >Vampire Hunter DEEZ NUTS, homie!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      S.A.C is the most accidentally hilarious thing i've ever seen in my life. I could not stop laughing at it, it's so fricking pathetic.
      There's a shot early on that's straight out of a zucker bros movie - girl is in a meeting with her bosses, it's taking itself way too seriously (like only an anime can), then the camera cuts back to reveal she's not wearing any pants.

      Also - yoko kanno cannot write rock music for shit, she is good at writing piano melodies and arranging orchestration, but the """bad ass action music""" in S.A.C is just awful.

      don't worry anons it's not a sin to have absolutely shit taste

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dilate u little sluut

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      actually it's not sure at all
      actually it's better

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just watched vampire hunter. What a dogshit anime, way too much staring. Absolutely terrible, but in ways that anime isn't normally terrible. The character designs were also dogshit tier.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bloodlust? or did you watch the shitty 80s one?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Both of them are great.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Perfect Blue, or Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust
      Are you 12?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ghost in a shell is better than all of those. However The end of Eva, spirted away and black lagoon might be better

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not that anon but I enjoyed Vampire Hunter d waaay more. Such a prettier movie in art and atmosphere.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Black Lagoon showed such promise in the first episodes, then quickly becomes absolute shit.
        End of Eva is just the kantokusama taking a huge fat dump on his audience. If you actually enjoy that, you are unironically what the redditors call one who lacks media literacy.
        Spirited Away may be the best animated movie ever made, I'll gice you that.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    S.A.C. is better and much closer to the original manga.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      S.A.C is the most accidentally hilarious thing i've ever seen in my life. I could not stop laughing at it, it's so fricking pathetic.
      There's a shot early on that's straight out of a zucker bros movie - girl is in a meeting with her bosses, it's taking itself way too seriously (like only an anime can), then the camera cuts back to reveal she's not wearing any pants.

      Also - yoko kanno cannot write rock music for shit, she is good at writing piano melodies and arranging orchestration, but the """bad ass action music""" in S.A.C is just awful.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the """bad ass action music""" in S.A.C is just awful.
        it's a harder genre to plagiarize
        it's not that bad. I also didn't care for it because it took itself too seriously but ended up thinking it's a very prescient work. Ishikawa is my favorite character because I'm boring.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >but ended up thinking it's a very prescient work.
          lol people say this about literally every second rate scifi story because they all inevitably copy from the true classic scifi stories that actually came up with those forward thinking ideas.
          just like how gays today think MGS2 is unironically some all time great work of writing because it includes bog standard commentary on AI that has been around for many decades in science fiction literature.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Go frick yourself. Run Rabbit Junk was the best rock song Japan ever made before the sound tracks for Metal Gear Rising and Devil May Cry 5 came out. The orchestral version kicks ass, too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's peak anime

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >yoko kanno cannot write rock music for shit
        She's a plagiarist.

        >the """bad ass action music""" in S.A.C is just awful.
        it's a harder genre to plagiarize
        it's not that bad. I also didn't care for it because it took itself too seriously but ended up thinking it's a very prescient work. Ishikawa is my favorite character because I'm boring.

        >the """bad ass action music""" in S.A.C is just awful.
        it's a harder genre to plagiarize
        it's not that bad. I also didn't care for it because it took itself too seriously but ended up thinking it's a very prescient work. Ishikawa is my favorite character because I'm boring.

        This guy gets it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          She didn't copy shit.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            woops my bad

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      S.A.C. is soulless moe garbage.
      GiTS: Innocence, however, is underappreciated.

      It's not as good as Akira, Perfect Blue, or Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust, that's for sure.

      Akira and Vampire Hunter D are both great, but very much style over substance. Perfect Blue is good, but doesn't come close to the level of quality GiTS.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >S.A.C. is soulless moe garbage.
        >GiTS: Innocence, however, is underappreciated.
        Being a contrarian is not a valid substitute for a personality.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You just like booba and le funny spiderbots

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah exactly! Damn you read me like a book. There is nothing more to SAC than your strawman. You changed my opinion completely with that single post.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Good. I'm glad I was able to help you see reason.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SAC is boring as sin, it's literally a generic ass cop drama starring robot people. Like half of the total airtime is people blabbing about pointless technical or legal jargon or explaining things the audience already knows because they are watching the fricking show. There's like 3 decent episodes in the whole mess.

      The most entertaining part of the show is the blatant NIPPON NUMBAH 1 nationalism wanking and blind america hate of the writers.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have the worst ADHD ever and even I found SAC interesting. You sound like you're describing SAC 2nd Gig though, judging from your hate of the portrayal of Americans, which mostly happens in 2nd gig. Personally I disliked 2nd gig for the immigrants plot and lack of one-off episodes.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the second season is fricking miserable, just terrible.
          the worst part is that despite all melodramatic backdrop with the love drama involving white hair jesus and the blatant cringeworthy jesus symbolism (get it!! it looks like HECKIN' CROSS!!), the story is still badshit fricking moronic lmao.

          >bro I smuggled some plutonium into a run down literal slum full of refugees, now we can totally make a nuclear fricking bomb
          what? huh? who wrote this sh-
          >ms hot president lady, our intelligence tells us that the slum refugees who sleep on the dirt floor and eat wienerroaches to survive are minutes away from constructing a thermonuclear weapon now that they have a briefcase full of plutonium
          uhhh
          >we suspect this is actually a FALSE FLAG! the american's are actually using this as a distraction so they can LAUNCH A FRICKING TRIDENT MISSILE STRIKE ON AN ISLAND OF REFUGEES BECAUSE REASONS LMAOOOO

          WHAT
          That shit is full blown fricking crazy town lmao. It's like a child who heard about nuclear weapons from godzilla wrote it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I believe the idea was some guy was playing the long game. He knew the president wouldn't take him seriously and be made a fool when the nuke went off. He'd also be solving the immigrant problem, conclusively. Meanwhile, the Americans would get a new Japanese PM that was cozy with them.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              all that shit is irrelevant, my point is that none of that shit makes a lick of sense. dirt poor refugees are not even remotely capable of constructing a nuclear bomb from some raw plutonium, the best thing they could possibly make is a dirty bomb which would do nothing except cause a radiological disaster. There is no way on earth that anyone could mistake a dirty bomb going off for a fricking thermonuclear warhead lmao, if a real deal nuke went off literally the only possible source would be another nuclear weapon state. And aside from all that, there are a billion early warning radars and watchdog satellites that exist specifically to look out for nuclear missile launches, the ebil americans would never be able to launch a fricking SLBM without anyone else noticing it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Atomic bombs aren't all that hard to make once you have the nuclear material, actually. The little boy bomb was never tested, because the creators were 100% sure from their calculations that a gun type nuke would work. That's where you use a cannon to shoot one clump of nuclear material into another. There's no such thing as raw plutonium. All of it is made in reactors, and in fact the the most highly radioactive is too dangerous to use in gun type nukes because there's a risk of pre-detonation. Plutonium recovered from spent fuel, while not weapons grade, can be used to produce nuclear weapons at all levels of sophistication. It's more radioactive than uranium, after all, and uranium was what the first nukes used.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Atomic bombs aren't all that hard to make
                mfw

                you clearly have no clue what you are talking about lmao.

                Get back to me when refugees can manufacture the ultra precise neutron reflectors made of solid tungsten carbide required to make a gun type bomb, then get back to me when a crude gun type bomb could make anything close to the yield of a sophisticated thermonuclear warhead.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is a cyberpunk world. Stuff like that is sourceable from most junk yards. And for all you know the Americans were only going to launch a tactical warhead themselves, to keep it believable. The nanomachines would clean up the radiation and nobody would be able to trace the radiological signature of the bomb.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Stuff like that is sourceable from most junk yards
                no, it isn't lmao.
                That shit would be worth an enormous amount of money in scrap value alone. That's ignoring the absolutely insane idea that people just manufacture nuclear bomb neutron reflectors for apparently no reason only to get tossed in the trash.

                You are talking about huge blocks of tungsten carbide or some other similar material. Where are the refugees hiding the enormous machinery required to process the material, sinter it into blocks, then grind it to exacting dimensions for the purposes of making a nuke?
                There is literally no excuse for this, it's simply bad, moronic writing.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lol I looked up tungsten carbide and it's bloody well everywhere. It's in bike wheels, tool bits and machinery. The refugees have got that shit in the bag.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's also impossible to process outside of highly specialized heavy industrial processing plants, and also impossible to form into shapes of the requisite size without highly sophisticated sintering manufacturing machinery.

                What you are saying here, is like saying that you can build a space shuttle in your back yard, because space shuttles are made with aluminum, and you can find aluminum cans in the recycling bins around town.
                Maybe stop with the frantic googling of a topic you know nothing about before you make yourself look even more moronic LOL

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you know so much about nuclear bombs?

                Nta btw

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know a lot about nuclear bombs, I know just as much as any other lay person does who has read a fair bit about them.
                I know a lot more about manufacturing and tungsten carbide, because it's something you use every day in the metalworking industry.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't know a lot about nuclear bombs
                Yeah, I guess you don't, because I just did some quick googling and saw that neutron reflectors don't have to be made of tungsten carbide - they can be made of a variety of materials such as graphite, beryllium, steel, and gold.

                Nevertheless, the notion that it's easy to make a nuke is idiotic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they can be made of a variety of materials such as graphite, beryllium, steel, and gold.
                none of those are high performance enough for the purposes of a bomb except beryllium, which is itself an exotic material.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How would you know? Nobody ever made gun type plutonium bombs because they had a risk of going off on their own. Maybe plutonium plus some jury rigged reflectors are all you need.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because they used reflectors for more than just making the bomb. They also had a very extensive research and development program testing these things before and after the bombs on japan that made use of all manner of reflectors. Like the famous demon core story for example?

                If they could have gotten away with using a mundane material like steel they would have used it, it's certainly a hell of a lot easier to manufacture and acquire.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but at the end of the day, you just need to ram two pieces of radioactive stuff together real fast to get a fission bomb. If you have a warehouse to build it in you can forgo the need to give your bomb a transportable body, meaning just cover that shit in reflectors, fire the cannon and hope for the best.

                Remember, Little Boy was never tested because they knew it would work.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you just need to ram two pieces of radioactive stuff together real fast to get a fission bomb
                You need enough of that stuff to make a critical mass, the purpose of the reflectors is to reduce the amount of fissile material required to reach that critical mass. the amount of material you can transport in a briefcase as shown in the show is already extremely low and likely not enough in and of itself regardless of your reflectors, but even putting that aside you can't magically make the shit work without a sufficient amount of neutron reflection just because you're on the ground.

                It's absolutely unreal the lengths you are willing to go pulling things straight out of your ass just to avoid losing an internet argument, even though you already lost it like 10 times lmao.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >frantic googling of a topic you know nothing about
                Pot calling the kettle black. Cyberpunk world means the common people have that shit in their local steel factory.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok anon, lets assume that they can magically acquire the necessary extremely expensive exotic materials. Then what? How do they process it into the finished parts? Does the refugee camp have a fully equipped precision grinding shop available?
                >UHH yea because cyberpunk means even destitute starving refugees have advanced manufacturing capabilities
                Okay, then how do you explain away the fact that a SLBM launch would be immediately detected by every major nation on the planet? How do they sweep that under the rug?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Stealth nuke. If anyone in that world can make smokeless short range rockets, it's the US.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >short range rockets, it's the US.
                except the show explicitly depicts it as a full blown ballistic missile.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah and it was right off the coast, within flyby range of Japanese jets.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and? it's still going to space, and still a full scale missile, meaning every detection platform would see it.
                the fact that they showed it fired so nearby just makes the writing even more dumb lmao.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's close enough that it would just hop over to the destination, without the need for entering space. If it stays under cloud cover, shit should be fine.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If it stays under cloud cover,

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What you are saying here, is like saying that you can build a space shuttle in your back yard, because space shuttles are made with aluminum, and you can find aluminum cans in the recycling bins around town.
                The first "lunar lander" was built exactly like that

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      S.A.C is the most accidentally hilarious thing i've ever seen in my life. I could not stop laughing at it, it's so fricking pathetic.
      There's a shot early on that's straight out of a zucker bros movie - girl is in a meeting with her bosses, it's taking itself way too seriously (like only an anime can), then the camera cuts back to reveal she's not wearing any pants.

      Also - yoko kanno cannot write rock music for shit, she is good at writing piano melodies and arranging orchestration, but the """bad ass action music""" in S.A.C is just awful.

      It's incredibly silly that the Major walks around everywhere dressed like a prostitute and nobody bats an eye. She puts on pants in the second season but still looks ridiculous with her cleavage and hips showing. My favorite bit was when she spends an episode talking to basket weaving forum members in VR and they all look like children and her avatar when she shows up is a 6'7 golden tranime goddess.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But the original manga is trash?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        actually true t b h.
        the gits manga is bad, it's way more concerned with being horny and telling horny jokes than being a competent story. It's like an ecchi manga with a few staple science fiction plots and tropes thrown in for flavor.

        literally the entire legacy of gits as this major IP hangs on the 95 movie, that's the only one that takes its own setting seriously and tells a compelling story, even if it is a well worn one in the world of scifi.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >way more concerned with being horny and telling horny jokes
          Laughable false.
          The manga has a 2 page spread of tribbing ladies that can (and in the West, was) be cut right out without affecting anything else in the story. It's pure fanservice that can be lifted out with zero impact.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it was closer to the original manga, but worse than both.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Be grateful.
    These days you wont be seeing much cyberpunk anime or manga with sovl hand drawn animation and hand painted background
    Unless you're completely fine with modern tranime that are too bright and relying on after effect motion things

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The visuals were very good I’ll give it that.
      I don’t watch anime. I’ve only seen Akira.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I don’t watch anime
        So do I, but I only seen recent troonime from several webm that was usually posted in here thoughbeit, and compared to the old one like ghost in the shell or perfect blue, modern troonime looks worse

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My reaction to all anime post DBZ

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a GITS fanboy and rewatched it recently, it's actually quite disappointing. Just like in Psycho Pass, they just cite philosophers and drop "philosophical" dialogue out of place, when it should all have subtly arisen from the plot instead. I still like it a lot because there's not enough cyberpunk-noir-political thriller with gorgeous animation around, but I don't love it anymore.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i was always aware of that and still love it
      >compelling characters
      >intriguing story
      >fantastic audio-visuals

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is really subtle where it matters, the philosophical rambling is just a plus to the already expresed ideas that were presented in a subtle way

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not a bad movie but Innocence is significantly better, also SAC is massively overrated pleb normalgay shit that loses all the charm and weirdness of the source material and gets completely btfo by the artistry and inventiveness of the movies. SACgays are getting way too fricking uppity and comfortable pushing their shit opinions whenever GITS gets discussed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      1995 > SAC > SAC 2nd Gig > SAC SSS > Innocence

      Yeah, I'm the guy who didn't like the philosophy quotes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Innocence literally plays out like a standalone episode of SAC if the show was actually good.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It plays like a record of philosophy quotes compiled into dialogue. I just couldn't take how inorganic it felt.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The dialogue in the movies isn't that heavy on quoting or referencing old writers, people are just making up fake memories at this point because they want reasons to hate the movies.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You should watch it with TL notes citing who they are quoting.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous
            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And could go on for another 20 quotes.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                we're talking about gits and you're posting about innocence...

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We're talking about both, actually. Since quality is relative you need to mention the others to show how bad Innocence was. Not sure why that one anon thought 1995 had any quotes. I didn't notice any. If there were some, the movie didn't force it at all.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The only quote in the 1995 one is first Corinthians 13 13:14.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The dialogue in the movies
                >movies

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah movies imply both suffer from the same issue, which isn't the case.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Read the reply chain you dumb frick.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        1995 is full of philosophy quotes too. The only way it differs from Innocence is that it doesn't have an ugly & slow 10 minute scene where the characters are trapped in a loop.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >an ugly & slow 10 minute scene where the characters are trapped in a loop
          bruh, that's the best part of the movie

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What did you like about it? I don't see how the recursion added anything, be it in terms of advancing the plot or providing symbolism.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I like it when movies take a chance to be surreal and unnerving even at the cost of confusing the audience. I wouldn't say it always works but in this case I feel like the trip to the creepy doll house gave the audience a chance for introspection about the themes of the movie, which later inform the rest of the plot regarding dolls and the nature of humanity.

              That being said the amount of quotations can get a bit silly.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hardly. 1995 had meaningfully deep conversations that didn't rely on philosophy quotes. The elevator scene and the interrogation preceding it, for instance. Innocence is 100% quotes. It's just quote quote quote quote. Frick it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            the best scene (major on the river boat goong slowly through the city) doesn’t even have any dialogue.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >long expository dialogue scenes with absolutely static animation and the characters backs turned to the audience to save money

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Should I watch it all?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Skip Innocence, but otherwise watch the list up to 6.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Disregard

      Skip Innocence, but otherwise watch the list up to 6.

      Watch the first 2 movies, all of SAC except solid state society and 2045, and arise. Nothing else is worth seeing

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      anything beyond 2015 is not worth it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >GitS
      >SAC
      >SAC2
      That's all. Don't bother with the rest

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that's what your dad thinks of you

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >t.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it's...

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's this? Looks like some feminist shit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's garbage moron shit about genetic queens ruling cities in the wasteland and nothing makes sense

        I never managed to finish it. I always drop it at the Vincent does a TV Show part. I wish I could finish it.
        [...]
        It's pretty good anime, made before modern feminism was a thing.

        modern feminism is like 100 years old

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Modern feminism is fourth wave feminism. The previous three waves are by definition not modern anymore.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What's this? Looks like some feminist shit.
        Shut up, moid.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm slightly annoyed by how she doesn't pump her shotgun right after firing.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I never managed to finish it. I always drop it at the Vincent does a TV Show part. I wish I could finish it.

      What's this? Looks like some feminist shit.

      It's pretty good anime, made before modern feminism was a thing.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SAC2045 was right to make npcs perma-npcs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sac2045 actually has nice ideas. i haven't gotten to s2 cus i always forget it came out and no one ever talks about it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a let down, the ending is sort of ok.
        It ends up plagiarizing itself for the third or fourth time.
        The opening music/sequences were kino though.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the "problem" with the philosophical talk is the voice actors and voice acting direction are so shitty and detached that they almost never deliver it believably. and that's just the japanese version-- don't get me started on the english dub abominations.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      GITS has an excellent english dub cast. The Innocence dialogue just sucked.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        excellent relative to the industry standard? sure. it's passable most of the time, and i'm attached to the voices.
        but the voice acting industry absolutely sucks wiener.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >GITS has an excellent english dub cast.
        the movie? yeah everyone is great, except fricking kusanagi lmao. The english dub voice for kusanagi in the 95 movie is fricking horrendous.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not the best, yeah. I still remember how fast she was going through her lines after the scene where she went for a swim. They should have slowed down the animation in editing to let her get through the words at a better pace. But it's workable.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          wtf? Kusanagi is great in the '95 dub.
          What is wrong with you morons?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            she sounds like a whiny nasally karen who can't act to save her life.
            just watch the elevator scene in english and jap back to back, the disparity is absolutely comical.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >IM A SOLDIER SCHNETZIYAAAAAAAAH

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Staaaannnnndalone

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Glad to see a gits thread on Cinemaphile. The last one was great. Too bad so many anons have shit taste.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    filtered

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked the movie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I hope you die painfully and soon

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same, once the sperg out from the casting of a white actor to play a white anime character started there was no stopping it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I liked it when I watched it in theaters, I couldn't stomach it when I tried re-watching it at home. I fricking hate how Scarjo couldn't be bothered to get in shape for the role.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I need more movies like Innocence, any recs?
    I've seen most of Oshi's stuff like Avalon already.
    Please I need more kino.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, there's Animatrix.
      Apart from that, there really isn't much

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Batou's assault on the gynoid factory is one of the most kino moments ever created on film.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mars Express, while cool, made me appreciate the GitS movies even more.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its no Crystal Triangle or Lensman.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is this worth watching or will it ruin my good memories of the series?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah if you don't have anything else to watch and don't mind recycled plot

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      those designs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's barely okay. don't go into it expecting anything as good as the original SAC.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anime is pretty bad outside of CHADgon Ball Z. Everything mentioned in this thread is trash for teenagers.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here's some FACTS you need to acknowledge:

    1. Perfect Blue is basically a dumb 1990s B-movie. If it was live action it would have been a forgotten Single White Female knock-off. It doesn't say much for the quality of animé that this is one of the most highly regarded anime movies out there

    2. GITS is horribly overrated. The characters are boring and flat and the story lingers on beats that are meant to feel significant because they were significant in the manga, but they fall flat in the movie because it doesn't do the same world building or character development the manga did

    3. GITS: SAC isn't really very good

    4. GITS: SAC 2nd GIG is maybe the only good GITS anime because it actually develops the fricking characters land it's got a grounded story about terrorists

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You must understand anon. Most weebs are cinematically illiterate and their basis for good films are marvel movies and maybe some Spielberg tier crowd pleasers. Their understanding is pedestrian at best so any 7/10 anime with an actual theme like Perfect Blue, Paprika, Lain, Monster, Metropolis, GiTS or Paranoia Agent hit them like a fricking truck.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >GITS is horribly overrated. The characters are boring and flat and the story lingers on beats that are meant to feel significant because they were significant in the manga, but they fall flat in the movie because it doesn't do the same world building or character development the manga did
      what an awful opinion. you should be ashamed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The characters are boring and flat and the story lingers on beats that are meant to feel significant because they were significant in the manga, but they fall flat in the movie because it doesn't do the same world building or character development the manga did
      this makes no sense at all.
      even the central plot with the puppeteer is way better in the movie. In the movie it has an actual motivation with the thing about wanting to reproduce to avoid stagnation. in the manga that whole sequence with the puppeteer is literally like 20 pages of psycho-technobabble jargon nonsense that boils down to mean basically nothing other than, "I'm really smart and shit XD".
      In that sense it does resemble SAC a lot more lol, but boring nonsensical tirades about electrons and nets and all manner of other meaningless shit is not very interesting.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're a plot and character babby. Watch more movies. You haven't even acquired the tools to appreciate GITS and SAC.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    some absolutely delusional opinions in this thread
    Oshii is the greatest anime director of all time, and not even because of GITs

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Garm Wars.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What about it?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Absolute kino.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I know?

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's basically an arthouse film, so people expecting pew pew pew action are let down. That was right at Oshii's peak, where he takes a series, then produces some high level art film based on it, to confound the fanbase.

    >Patlabor: The Movie 2
    >Urusei Yatsura 2: Beautiful Dreamer
    >Ghost in the Shell

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Patlabor 2 poster here to remind you all once again that Patlabor 2 is the superior anime film.

      [...]
      >Patlabor mind

      lol at thinking those were his actual best

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The Sky Crawlers

        Wrong place, wrong time, and it utterly killed his career. After that he had to beg and scrape to do cheap live action films and is never trusted with an anime film again. If he made it in 2018 it's possible he'd get an American release to at least recoup his development costs.

        Oshii is in his Orson welles phase where he's obviously well respected and is called on for interviews, but can never get anything actually in production because no one trusts him with money.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What the frick are you talking about homie the film was low budget and made a profit at the box office, it didn't "kill his career".

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's my favorite too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lmao, I saw that in the cinema, while on exchange in Japan.
        It fricking sucked.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not an argument

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Patlabor 2 poster here to remind you all once again that Patlabor 2 is the superior anime film.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For falling asleep maybe.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's basically an arthouse film, so people expecting pew pew pew action are let down. That was right at Oshii's peak, where he takes a series, then produces some high level art film based on it, to confound the fanbase.

      >Patlabor: The Movie 2
      >Urusei Yatsura 2: Beautiful Dreamer
      >Ghost in the Shell

      >Patlabor mind

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically 5/5

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Innocence is the most kino thing Oshii ever did.
    Trust me bro, I have a PhD in Oshii, I even saw Assault Girls.

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