I just really fricking hate this character. Haven't watched BCS, but in BrB he came off for whatever reason as a whipped little subservient dog that has unquestioning loyalty to Gus, who is objectively a piece of shit. He’s also needlessly a fricking douchebag. I was actually happy when based Walt wasted that old boomer homosexual.
Anyone else feel this way?
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no, not at all
It's been known to happen.
He's a ridiculous character anyway. An old geriatric midget who is also supposed to be some badass commando and security agent who can take down guys twice his size.
Why is the light so fricking fake here? There's no shadows
clouds
real answer is that they added a shit ton of fill light from behind where the camera is to fix the over-exposure of the clouds behind, removing all of the cast shadows that would have been there.
It's daytime and cloudy. Have you ever been outside?
Trevorbros...
le badass mike scenes are the fricking worst, they give me secondhand embarrassment
>tfw you realize Mike is the boomer equivalent of Coldsteel the Hedgehog
Well, you know what they say. Never underestimate an old man in a profession where men die young.
but mike entered the business as an old ass dude and died just a few years later
>Geriatric old fart who walks slower than molasses has supersonic reflexes
I can't take him seriously at all, he's an immersion killer
>t.
Lalo is a great character, he's in the top 5 of the Albuquerque cinematic universe
Why do you all seethe so much about this sort of thing? Has literally EVERY tallgay been beaten up by someone shorter than themselves?
It's lanklet cope, height doesn't mean much in a fight it's more about bulk. Mike is sturdy, and most of all he has decades of experience on the guys he takes down. He has no hesitation he knows exactly how to act and he always acts first. The element of surprise it all it takes. If they showed him taking out some 350lb bouncer with a flip that would be a different story but all of the guys he fights it is perfectly feasible he is able to beat them given his background.
Manlets detected
>ex-cop
>somehow also world class sniper and can headshot a guy driving fast from a quarter mile
extremely immersion killing
he was a marine in vietnam
He was in Vietnam, speedwatcher-kun
Not my call
solid and based
I can't do it. I'm sorry.
>whoa mike is an awesome badass I can't wait to watch bcs to learn more about his origin story and see how he developed these skills
>he's a car lot attendant and ex beat cop
>omg everyone needs an epic dramatic backstory!!!
fricking cringe dude
Do you prefer the generic “he was a former government spook seal team 6 operator!” I like the way it is
He looks about the right age I just figured he was a vietnam vet or maybe served in iraq and then settled down as a cop after leaving the military.
It's fresh so I can concur. In an episode of season 2, he tries to get a rifle and talks about how one of the rifle used to be in wood and that the army should have thought about that before sending them in a jungle.
So he prolly is a viet veteran.
He was a sniper in vietnam. They couldn't have made it more obvious in the BCS season 2 scene where he buys a gun.
His character motivation is providing for his family and creating a criminal organization that doesn't murder random civilians. Gus's organization only kills people "in the game" so thats why Mike likes it.
Mike has strict rules that he follows and he hates people who don't follow rules. A big reason why is that his son Matt was killed by the dirty cops even though he accepted the money. The dirty cops "broke the rules" by killing him.
Gus in BCS sucks way more because he doesnt have a foil. Back in BB he had Walt and Jesse to keep fricking up his organization. Now all he has is old man Mike who just follows along with everything.
Lalo isn't a good enough foil because we don't see him interacting with Gus enough to make it work. Lalo is a good character, but he doesn't make Gus great.
They should have introduced Lalo back in the beginning of season 4 and had more time with him interacting with mike and gus.
>Gus's organization only kills people "in the game"
Hank proved this isn't true
Yeah, I think Mike was in too deep when he realized Gus was a psychopath who will kill anyone. Also not to mention that his complex character motivations only really started to arise in season 5 + BCS.
I'm pretty sure in the criminal world, cops count as being in the game because they're actively trying to frick over the cartel. Most of the time they'll try to pay off them off and shit but if that doesn't work like Hank then bye bye
Lalo's introduction was perfect in my opinion.
>7 months pass
>Nacho has settled into a position of power in the cartel and things his troubles with Gus have cooled off
>Walks into restaurant
>TACA TACA TACA EN MI CABALLO
>"it's gonna be like I'm not even here" 😉
*thinks
they kinda flanderized the entirety of the show as it went imo. In season 1 of BCS, it was clear they wanted something different than BrBa, more subdued, I like Lalo but inclusion of le epic mastermind funny villain is one of the things that breaks the illusion for me. Lalo is one of many things that felt like an afterthought idea that they came up with as they developed the show, shifting it from drama to breaking bad style thriller. So many things in BCS kinda feel like they wouldn't make sense in context of breaking bad. No way Saul would shrug off something extremely dramatic like lalo killing howard.
When he buys the rifle it is implied that he has used it before in a war.
He was ghost recon in vietnam. Pay attention next time.
YA FRICKIN BLEW IT WALTUH WE HAD A GOOD THING GOING WHY COULDN'T YOU JUST LET GUS MURDER JESSE THEN YOU
what do Mike simps respond to this?
Jesse deserved to be murdered. Walt would have been fine had he just acted like a professional.
Jesse was a liability, a loose cannon if you will, but he had personal reasons to take matters into his own hands.
What I don't understand is the logic of the gangbangers behind the murder of the kid.
I do not think someone like Gus ordered them to do it. So it's their own initiative.
What the frick did they expect would happen? Did they seriously think a guy who planned to poison them with ricin just for making kid sell shit and shoot for terf would not go after them if they just outright killed him?
Real latinx moment.
you answered your own question with that last sentence.
Hispanic stoners and gang bangers are not know to be very logic oriented.
they were upset jesse planned to kill them so they killed the kid to get back at him, they are mentally children.
but wouldn't gus have a big problem with underlings acting on their own like that anyway?
>latinx
You should have been poisoned too, it's not too late to help out the world and remove yourself from the gene pool.
My pronounce are they/them, grandpa.
Your pronouns are going to be was/were if you keep it up you little shit.
I'll get out of your hair, beanex.
lmao no use in calling mexicans hispanics or beaners anymore because latinx clearly infuriates them more
>being this dumb
Gus ordered them to do it to provoke Jesse so he could be rid of him. Holy frick you are stupid.
Walt outright alludes to this when Gus asks him if he's really asking if he ordered the murder of a child and Walt replies "of course not" or something to that effect. He did it
Except that would make this the most contrived and moronic plot device in the show.
No way in hell Gus was led to assume that Jesse immediately would attempt to shoot them when his first attempt was poison to begin with. Same with not telling Walt or just being pissy pussy and complaining straight to him.
If this was all orchestrated by Gus then his reaction doesn't betray that this is something that backfired either. Black person acts offended.
The entire finale of the 3rd season is either stupid or incredibly contrived.
Gotta agree with the shitposter here, what the frick was Walt meant to do, Gus made it really clear he was gonna kill Jesse. Its still Jesses fault for going back to kill the drug dealers forcing Walt to intervene
I chalk it up to him becoming jaded to his job similar to how Saul is in the events of BB so he either believes killing Jesse is the right thing to do or doesn't actually realize that Walt cares about Jesse that much. I haven't watched the show in forever though, so maybe there's something before that negates my assumptions.
Mike I can understand, Jesse is the traitorous homosexual. Walt went literal ride or die for that li'l homie in Half Measures and when he expected tit for tat with Gale, Jesse went into a tailspin and sided with Gus so hard Walt had to poison a child
the whole thing with Tomas was an absurd contrivance to cause conflict between Walt/Jesse and Gus
>Gus is shown to be a consummate professional who only works with the best and keeps several degrees of separation between himself and the people who actually distribute the meth
>some shithead butthole obvious junkie drug dealers are his "trusted men" to the point he's willing to invite these street-level dealers to meet with him in person at the slaughterhouse
>Gus refrains from using violence unless he feels it absolutely necessary, and his entire motivation to become a drug kingpin was to avenge the murder of his lover by Tio Salamanca
>He shows absolutely zero sympathy to Jesse wanting to avenge the murder of his gf's brother and is willing to destroy his partnership with Walt over losing two junkie street dealers
he can sympathize with jesse and still recognize that keeping him around is overall detrimental to the production and that he has to do what needs to be done to protect the buisness.
I don't understand why he decided he'd keep Jesse. He wanted Jesse out or killed for the longest time, then changed his mind and wanted to keep him and kill Walt?
Also Walt would have been fine if he just let Gus murder him from the beginning when he was threatening to do his own cook then out White as Heisenberg if he gets caught. No one would have cared if Jesse was dead and they never would have caught on to the operation.
I would have liked a sitcom with WW and Gale working in the meth lab
>I don't understand why he decided he'd keep Jesse.
He wanted to keep Jesse to frick with Walt. Eventually, he came to understand that Jesse can be useful and reliable, if properly motivated, to the point his entire plan in Mexico hinges upon Jesse not fricking up.
Gus realized that Walt's ego meant that he HAD to be the one in charge and would always be a problem, whereas Jesse is loyal and would fall in line as long he felt appreciated.
He realised Walt was more dangerous because he shows he's capable of being as impulsive as Jesse (hitting the gangsters with his car), but Gus knows Walt's also mm ore intelligent.
I wish Walt would have killed Jesse. Walt only did bad things when he was going to be murdered, to save his life. He saved Jesse's life multiple times. Ironically, if he had just killed Jesse one of the many times he should have instead of saving him, everything would have worked out for Walt.
It turns out Jesse was the biggest b***h of them all.
i actually agree with your first point, I always felt that Gus actually showing up to the meeting with some hood rats was pretty strange move. I mean, he explained in the same scene it was out of respect for Walter, but it was still a tad bizzare.
As for the second one, I think it was not the fact that Jesse killed them, but rather bc he was taking the initiative without permission and Gus' autism couldn't let that by. Victor is another example of that.
there are a lot of contrivances in BrBa, the most egregious example is the plane crash. such nonsensical writing, it's made purely for foreshadowing and shock factor
>some shithead butthole obvious junkie drug dealers are his "trusted men" to the point he's willing to invite these street-level dealers to meet with him in person at the slaughterhouse
wow this is actually unbelievably moronic now that you mention it. he's constantly surrounded by top-tier mercenaries in BCS, there's no explaining how he's so small-time when he's supposedly more powerful. it's also nonsensical how nobody killed Walt after the assassination on Gus and Tyrus, did the entire organization just disappear into thin air? what happened to all of Mike's ex-military guys?
Vincent Gilligan doesn't make mistakes. What you're describing is viewer error. Rewatch the entire series and you'll understand.
Mike went to kill Walt at the beginning of season 5. Most of the organization is just goons and street delaers who only care about the leadership because they cut the cheques. After Gus and Tyrus got fricked the entire organization probably just went independent or went to work for someone else.
AND URE FAMILY WALTUH
this is why you don't give a random mob more screentime
Also how much money he stole from Walt and Jesse to buy Gus' employees?
MUH LEGACY SHARE
legacy costs
his guys were solid so he made them whole, simple as
>his guys were solid
the moment they didn't receive their weekly check they were ready to talk
Based Lydia milf should've put more money on Mike's boyfriends heads
It's been known to happen
I miss her autism so much.
This woman makes my penis so hard it's unreal
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In all honesty the LEGACY COSTS were the smart move, Todd's uncles being able to stage the prison hits like that was ridiculous and one of many sharkjumping moments in season 5
>We can't do it Mr. White. It's impossible
>DO EET
Bravo Vince.
I don't think he was referring to the dealers killings tbh, but rather afterwards when he and Jesse understand that Walt won and that as long as they don't frick up more shit Gus can't do anything to them. Even then Walt never came off as prideful though, just extremely paranoid and rightfully so.
mike deserves his own show. it wouldn’t be hard to show that he actually survived the shooting and now mentors a badass chick or something. shit, make the chick gus’s daughter or sister or maybe even holly white and it ties in to the show overall.
>mike and holly, having just survived a brutal mission, escape from the mexico desert bullet-ridden, bloody, and starving
>first restaurant they come across is Los Pollos Hermanos
>cut to the two of them at a table eating fried chicken
>Mike: “you know... i worked for Gus Fring for years. odd jobs, hits, you name it. the pay was good, but, god damn... his chicken was the best pay a guy could ask for.” (licks chickenbone clean)
>holly: “pass the salt?”
>rough-looking bikers enter the store and start terrorizing the customers
>mike: i wouldn’t do that if i were you
>biker: what are you gonna do about it, old man?
>holly smiles
>cut to the bikers being lead out in an ambulance
Vince...
Here's that young rookie cop in philly I was telling you about...
>a chick
Frick off. We all know it should and would be a man.
If you couldn't detect the irony, i feel sorry for you
K I N O
thank you for your service
>>Mike: “you know... i worked for Gus Fring for years. odd jobs, hits, you name it. the pay was good, but, god damn... his chicken was the best pay a guy could ask for.” (licks chickenbone clean)
BASED
You. You are DONE.
Mikebros, this guy is not solid. Fully liquified.
>fp isn't "yeah,why?.gif"
I'm very disappointed in you, Cinemaphile
He is easily one of the best characters period
He’s arguably the worst
Chuck is the worst
I'm stretched thin here
JOIN!
DIE!
Underrated
holy kek
How the hell is that picture moving?
Not my call.
Oh, you know why.
is that shot of the shovel over jessie's back the exact moment jilligan's hubris got the best of him? felt like the entire series went downhill from that moment
Elaborate?
>GO PRO ON A SHOVEL
BRAVO VINCE!!
He also did it with vaults in the bank when Mike's lawyer was dishing out legacy money. He loved that go pro.
That's the kind of shot Youtube video essayists will spend hours worshipping
>picrel polar opposite spectrum of OP
I was watching Terminator clips the other day (1 and 2 in particular) and every fricking comment is like this.
Deep-diving in blatantly obvious things that happen ON-SCREEN as if the smallest littlle thing is some move of auteur genius.
Is this video essayists' fault? I Don't fricking understand it.
no because he wants to provide for his own blood (his dead son's daughter and i guess the widow cause he has no choice) and you and working as a wall mart greeter wasn't going to cut it
I hated his guts in BB but he's very likeable and relatable in BCS.
Turns out the writing was just ass in BB.
In BB Mike’s character made sense. In BCS, he doesn’t at all.
Mike is spread thin but solid.
Gus is overrated too. He insists upon himself. Once you notice that and that Mike is a chud the whole structure begins to topple.
>Mike is a chud
huh?
Gus is fine in brba but keeping him a mysterious character in bcs was a mistake. The more screen time, the more you could see how little depth he has.
Yea?
why.
Because your boss is gonna sneed me
Mike should have turned on Gus after he killed Victor, especially after what we see in Better Call Saul
I'm with you, I really don't see what people like about this piece of shit
kid named finger
This show is so fricking boring. How can you guys get so passionate about it? I unironically couldn't make it through the third season.
You're not wrong, but also have ADD, zoomie
I've been able to sit through tons of TV shows and movies, even ones I didn't like. But breaking bad is just such a chore to watch.
Are you not interested in what happens yet? It’s pretty bad on rewatches but there’s plenty of tension the first time.
I am interested in what happens, but sitting through an episode is just miserable. I ended up just reading what happens. The story itself is good, the acting is good, I think it might just be the cinematography, editing, and pacing that make it unwatchable.
Filtered
>the cinematography, editing, and pacing that make it unwatchable.
All of those are god tier though, I think you might just have twitter brain. You should unplug from the internet for a while. It will do wonders for your psyche.
>it might just be the cinematography, editing, and pacing that make it unwatchable
I gotchu anon, the cinematography is so pedestrian 80% of the time that it honestly baffles me that the show still manages to pull itself together.
Pacing in BB can get egregious too sometimes, just a lot of soap opera-tier crap. The approach works much, much better in BCS. Still a good show tho.
only good thing about mike is the memes
>twins
>mike
>gus
all dogshit characters, and espisito is unbelievably overrated
>watching BCS for the first time
Had to go to work so I paused whatever episode it was when Salamanca Senior comes to ask him to drop the charges on Tuco.
He's not yet in his vegetative state so I wonder how he became like that.
Mike drops him in a vat of FEV-2. Most powerful scene in the show.
He's a sexual pervert and gets brain damage due to an asphyxiwank that goes wrong
what the frick are you doing here man? close this shit asap and stay away from Cinemaphile to avoid spoilers
I enjoy the company, believe it or not, and I don't mind getting spoiled.
She has that Miss Parker side that gets us all, I guess.
I haven't seen BCS yet, but Tio's obviously had a very bad stroke as a result of frequent cocaine use
DE GON IS YORS
I unironically enjoy every scene with this guy.
Watching his arthritic old body shuffle around in BCS pretending to be a cartel tough guy is too much, I cringe in every scene he's in.
I love watching 60 year old Bob Odenkirk try to pretend he's still in his late 30s
Bit different though. The show isn't constantly yelling "This guy is in his late 30s!" at you. His age isn't really relevant to his role. Mike, however... a geriatric cartel enforcer... fricking kek
Is that so?
it really is funny how Walt spends most of Breaking Bad immediately losing all the money he's earned and then in s5e08 he basically makes $100 million in a single montage lmao
>and the Salamanca?
>Kill them all. No more half measures
Kid named I just really fricking hate this character. Haven't watched BCS, but in BrB he came off for whatever reason as a whipped little subservient dog that has unquestioning loyalty to Gus, who is objectively a piece of shit. He’s also needlessly a fricking douchebag. I was actually happy when based Walt wasted that old boomer homosexual.
Anyone else feel this way?
I don't hate him. I just think it's silly that everyone pretends he's such a great guy and a saint. It was satisfying to see Walt sperg out and kill him though
>great guy and a saint.
Who the frick says this? I have never once heard anyone say he was a good guy let alone a saint. He's a hired killer, he knew he wasn't a good guy and we all did too. He was cool because he got to do cool stuff but he knew he already had one foot in hell.
the only character in bb i couldn't stand was hank
>supposed to be smart
>all evidence is pointing towards walt since the beginning
>NOT WALT, COULDN'T BE PRECIOUS WALT
That's extremely realistic though
>take your nobel prize nominee chemist brother in law on ride along to a meth lab to show him how much money they make
>within like 2 days you find the highest quality meth ever found in the country
>lab equipment stolen from high school closet where only walt and the janitor have the keys
i could go on and on
You would be shocked how blind people are to the lies of loved ones. When someone doesn’t want to believe something it’s almost impossible to convince them.
Mothers will deny that their sons are murderers when there’s video evidence.
not him but comparing a brother in law to a mother is reaching lol
In a situation where there’s irrefutable evidence. Not a 1:1 comparison
All the evidence that would point to Walt being Heisenberg before Hank found Leaves of Grass was circumstantial so it makes sense Hank was able to blind himself to it
He was the husband of his sister he wouldn't want her to suffer like that obviously he is emotionally invested in walt not being a psychopath.
It makes sense. Despite first impressions, he actually cared a lot about Walt.
>NOT OUR PRECIOUS WALTUH
Hank loved his brother in law and also didn't consider him "man enough" to get involved with crime
that said, realistically, he should have been able to put two and two together, he knows that Heisenberg is a master chemist and his product started appearing after a break-in at Walt's own chem lab,
I am not crazy! I know he's Heisenberg. I knew he was W.W. One after V.V. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just – I just couldn’t prove it. He covered his tracks, he got that idiot at the junkyard to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This minerality? He’s done worse. That superlab! Are you telling me that a laundromat just happens to explode like that? No! He orchestrated it! Walter! He threw a pizza onto the roof! And I covered for him! And I shouldn’t have. I took him into my own ride-along! What was I thinking? He’ll never change. He’ll never change! Ever since he was 50, always the same! Couldn’t keep his hands out of the methylamine! But not our Walt! Couldn’t be precious Walt! Gassing Krazy-8 blind! And HE gets to be a drug kingpin? What a sick joke! I should’ve stopped him when I had the chance! …And you, you have to stop him! You-
My dad was a geologist so his mineral craze hit me a bit too much.
KEK
BB threads are a riot
His character was solid in BB but it got stretched thin during BCS.
There are people who hate Mike? Damn, the Universe is vast.
My guys are solid. I vetted them with great care and /bcs/ made sure they were well compensated in the event of a situation such as this. They're paid to mikepost and to stand up to the heat, keep the general up and running on the catalog no matter what.
im sorry mike.... i had to sage... the fricking feds man they got all my (you)s
Hes a asiatic foot enthusiast so he's not all bad.
>the way her pinky toe twitches after he takes her shoe off
dammit vince im gonna bust
Damn shame there isn't a scene of Gus set up and rotoscoped like that bar scene in the first kingsmen movie. Have him ask the barkeeper to close the windows and lock the door. Then he just beats up 4 gangsters younger than him.
SOOOOO what happened exactly to the Los Pollos Hermanos chain once Gus Cringe died.
Was that ever explained in the BB story?
It's implied to be shut down in El Camino
That doesn't make a lot of sense unless the supply chain was seized by the government. it was a part of madrigal I can't imagine why madrigal wouldn't just sell it off otherwise. Unless the government just seized all of it.
BCS is going to make you hate him more
Yeah? Why?
you're a homosexual and even tho it's a bait you're still ultra gay for even thinking about hating Mike you piece of shit
>Oh yeah?
not my call
When we getting the Better Call Walter show?
>punches walt out of anger
>almost kills him
>blames it on walt's ego when he was clearly trying to save his and jesse's lives
i dont understand why people always get on mike's side in this
>Noooo it's wrong to kill a mass murderer because... he was a badass old guy!!!!! Walt is evil!!!
>Killing drug dealers and gangsters is... le bad
he is the most reddit character on the show
he wouldve been great as a temporary side character but le boomer superman became so cringe, and only gets worse and worse as he evolves from streetwise ex-cop to literal action hero who solo's an entire cartel unit in the middle of the desert despite being like 500 years old
>Waltuh why didn't you just let Gus bury you and your whole family in a hole in the desert
I'm watching this now and he's driving me fricking crazy, does he ever acknowledge Gus backed Walt and Jesse into a corner over a couple low level street dealers?
>get told to not kill them
>kill them anyway
>nooo you cant just kill us for disobeying you
>who is objectively a piece of shit
So is Walt so whatever, only difference is with Gus the supply lines and cooking was all taken care of but when he died Mike has to work his ass of to make shit run again so he has a good reason to dislike Walt.
I had a guy but now I don't