Yes, it's more than a little racist to nonsensically "blackify" Thor with nonsense like a graffiti'd Mjolnir, the Astral Hood, and "By Odin's Fade", and yes twitter's super mad about it.
That's the point. They want the comic to be "controversial" and now that "wokeness" is fading from the limelight the way to be controversial is to be racist but with a little plausible deniability.
You’re literally only crying because Miles is black. What ifs have done shit like this before. What if Barbara Ketch had been Ghosr Rider, what if Punisher had become Captain America, what if Dr. Doom had become Sorcerer Supreme, what if Rogue had become Thor, what if Tony Stark was Sorcerer Supreme, etc. etc.
For fricks sake, Gwen Stacy is literally having the same goddamn idea done in her own book which has Gwen be Thor, Iron Gwen, Captain America. Where’s the major butthurt about that comic? The constant threads whining about that? Nowhere, because she’s white. Meanwhile people keep crying about hip hop Thor.
>There's nothing interesting about giving him an identity of other heroes
Except these stories are interesting because of how different the Miles version of the character ends up being. And it’s always tied to his family and especially his relationship with his uncle. Family and how it impacts Miles’ life is a major reoccurring theme.
The thing is that for the writer Miles has not enough of an identity to be written in a serious What If.
Like in a possible "Punisher becomes Sorcerer Supreme" you explore Frank dealing with his family dead, trying to play a long suicide and going to kill as much crime scum there is, and then the writer explores what happens if he turns into a magical wizard.
In this comic the only consitency is "Miles is a generic kid with problems" and "uncle and dad play a part".
Not enough to explore his identity or why it's only Miles that happens and not another black guy.
And I say this as a guy that read Ahmed's Miles.
The reoccurring theme is how his family always defines Miles and turns him into a hero. Either by his dad pushing him away, Miles feeling unworthy, Miles idolizing his uncle who turns out to be no good, etc. It’s a consistent message about importance of family and how they define you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The reoccurring theme is how his family always defines Miles and turns him into a he--
American gods, a background character is Low-Key lyesmith, or something like that. I was a dumb twelve year old when I read it, and I remember that part bein painfully obvious
Yeah, that fricking sucks. I'd actually like some afro-norse story, but I don't believe any even vaguely norse people would tolerate graffiti on any sculpture.
In graffiti culture, tagging over another person's tag is a sign of disrespect. You wouldn't do it unless you were thinking "frick this guy". So, wouldn't tagging over a sculpture of a god be the same thing, but disrespect to the god?
Also, I want Odin to stay white. Don't know why. I don't give a shit about any other god.
It's hilarious and so sad, it's this really supposed to be inspirational? The author vision of an afromerican Asgard is a hood with their own statues tag with graffiti and shoes hanging from power lines? There is something deeply broken within black people in america.
As a Dane, I can't tell if this is more racist towards me, or towards black Americans.
At least it seems like people are pushing back against it, so I can just enjoy it as the absolutely moronic idea that it is.
This shit always cracks me up. The cherry on top would be if he started rapping. "MY NAME IS THOR AND I'M HERE TO SAY" lmao. And then he could get on a skateboard and kick it to his auntie and uncle in Bel-Air. Just such corny shit.
I think afro-norse stuff can work well, and I think the comic is well drawn, but there's just some things that don't seem right to me. I don't think norse people would tolerate graffitiing on statues, and in graffiti culture, its a bad thing to tag over someone else's tag. I feel like that same sentiment would extend to the statues.
That's generally what runes are, right? Just tell them they're modern runes that add spiritual blessings or some supernatural superstition shit. Both the Nords and Nignogs (Nignords?) are a highly superstitious lot.
But could any guy slap a rune on another guy's work? Actually, graffiti runes sounds like a neat idea, but how much of both culture is being lost by saying "ehhh, just slap some shit on that statue, it'd be fine!".
I assure you this thread has put in more thought into how it could work than the actual writers of this cringe shit, and anons aren't even really trying. Statues are dedications to gods and heroic figures. Runes are embellishments for things like weapons, ritual items, and statues. They're both forms of art but have different roles to play. It could work.
>How are graffiti a bad thing?
Not him but it's the way it's done in the comic. Most of the graffiti done is just tags which is gang shit and there is far too much. No one would live with graffiti everywhere if they did have to. I would understand if they were like murals depicting battles or something relevant but most are just names with no real substance.
Like I said, the issue is entirely that the artist was lazy. But how much effort can you really expect from a random what if miniseries where the creative team changes every issue. The writer probably had way more thought and effort put into the script than the actual artist during the parts depicting Asgard.
>But how much effort can you really expect from a random what if miniseries where the creative team changes every issue.
It takes no effort to draw less graffiti
he lost it and doesn't want anyone drawing attention to it
so people keep swearing by his no longer existent fade
or that's the funniest explanation when the real one is probably "by odin's beard" isn't blackety black enough for the writer
More variations of Miles Morales and it's always the same thing they never test new villains especially female villains they never try to create a Black Cat for Miles, look at this issue there is no black woman with fat ass, I mean they are so dumb they don't even know what a black reader would like to see Marvel comics has the worst creative team ever
This proves my thesis that modern industry writers have no sense of "cool" anymore. Hipster can only regurgitate stale cultural tropes, they can't evaluate quality or come up with anything new.
It is racist.
Im not concerned about it, its hilarious. Like how Marvel made a show about high tech Black city and the warriors are all throwing spears. Shits priceless.
>link it
NTA, as I'm one of the alleged "concern trolls" (wasn't trolling, just spent too long a time arguing with some moron who's convinced that a modern comic could NEVER feature racism), but I'll post it:
You never proved it was racist. You just kept claiming it was racist because it was heavily using black culture mixed with Asgard.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You never proved it was racist
That's because racism isn't an objective, measurable thing. There's no proving "anything" is racist--especially when the other party to the discuss is completely unwilling to consider the argument from the outset.
deadass I've never heard this before seems kinda cappy homies just sometimes are buttholes and throw your shoes up there to be dicks or if they take someones J's and they the wrong size they ain't gonna give back what they stole
I always heard it was gang symbolism. Someone got jumped and they took their shoes and flung them on a wire and the victim couldn’t get them down. Extra salt on the wound.
Well, yeah, because it is. It's just such low grade racism that nobody particularly cares. Also involving a character nobody particularly cares about either.
>Is there outrage over this?
Nigs are freaking mad
https://twitter.com/JeanGen09181213/status/1537027187055935488
https://twitter.com/safree180/status/1537268946889474048
https://twitter.com/Fenrirtheicewo1/status/1536709231440707589
I'm obsessed with graffiti. It goes both way
If you look at the crime rate in New York during the 80-90's it did go down after the graffiti got cleaned up. Personally I like a wall slap with a tag now and then, better than a bear wall. I think the graffiti in the comic is excessive, and also disengenuine because none of it are tagger names probably people he knew or worked on the comic similar to graffiti on a Disney cartoon.
>a bear wall
Holy shit we need these graffiti would be over.
2 years ago
Anonymous
My bad
2 years ago
Anonymous
I actually deal with graffiti I'm my daily life. This is currently on my work neighbor fence. At my apartment gang member tagged the parking lot. I didn't take pictures but it's XIV and Xlll
2 years ago
Anonymous
So here's a fun graffiti story. Somebody spray painted Jabber jaw, then the park rangers painted over the whole thing white.
2 years ago
Anonymous
But the guy or whoever tagged Jabber Jaw did it again same spot, and I guess the park rangers liked just Jabber Jaw because it's still up to this day
2 years ago
Anonymous
Maybe because, as goofy as it is, it has legitimate aesthetic appeal. Unlike the illegible grafitti scribblings of your average street ape?
Even redditors pissed
https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/vezkeg/everything_about_miles_morales_thor_has_me/
https://old.reddit.com/r/MilesMorales/comments/vdl092/lets_talk_about_what_ifmiles_became_thor/
Funny, judging by the links that anon brought here, redditor milesgays seem a lot more chill and capable of criticizing media that has Miles in it.
Here they just seem to have a perpetual chip on their shoulder and call everyone racist.
A lot of it is stupid shit like “why does he look old, Miles is like 17” and just reacting to single panels without actually reading the story,or knowing context. So it’s entirely reactionary. Like at one point someone posted concept art of Thor and Storm’s daughter who’s black and this was apparently a bad thing. And just one of these tweets has plenty of engagement. The others were like 21 retweets or comments.
I do agree with certain complaints, like the hammer having graffiti is dumb, especially when it doesn’t have the wording about being worthy.
probaly reffering about yasuke, a black slave that got sold to Oda Nobunaga.
who kept him around as a pet and allowed him to wear samurai armor.
during his first real battle, he lost and nearly killed but got spared and sold as a slave again and died later.
blacks are now pretending that yasuke was Oda Nobunaga's greatest warrior and close friend that was a great warrior (like that shitty netflix animated serie)
That's basically what happened. He lasted past his first fight though, and was spared because the Japanese treated him more like an animal than a person
probaly reffering about yasuke, a black slave that got sold to Oda Nobunaga.
who kept him around as a pet and allowed him to wear samurai armor.
during his first real battle, he lost and nearly killed but got spared and sold as a slave again and died later.
blacks are now pretending that yasuke was Oda Nobunaga's greatest warrior and close friend that was a great warrior (like that shitty netflix animated serie)
Forget his name but he was an African man who was brought to Japan during the Sengoku era and ended up becoming a samurai. I believe he fought alongside Nobunaga
> Yasuke fought alongside the Nobutada forces but was eventually captured.
>When Yasuke was presented to Akechi, the warlord allegedly said that the black man was an animal as well as not Japanese and should thus not be killed, but taken to the Christian church in Kyoto, the Nanbanji
>and should thus not be killed, but taken to the Christian church in Kyoto, the Nanbanji
At least he understood christians are more humane than japs and so they treat black people with respect (unless they're heretic protties with a complex)
~~*They*~~ will turn every part of white culture black, part as a 'frick you goy' and in part to make it seem as if blacks were always part of white historical culture, since they are flooding white countries with blacks.
If he doesn't look like or act like Miles in any way, then it is not a "What if story where Miles is Thor", it's just "What if Thor was a random black guy?".
this what if aren't about situations anymore because Marvel dont write stories anymore they are all what if someone was black or a woman because that is all their modern stories boil down to
>If he doesn't look like or act like Miles in any way, then it is not a "What if story where Miles is Thor", it's just "What if Thor was a random black guy?".
This
You could have done the whole story like Miles being a normal kid, and then finding out he's a reincarnation of Thor with his uncle being a reincarnation of Loki who already figured it out and was trying to stop Miles before he figured it out.
This is the real reason we keep saying this story is laughably racist, but the disingenuous shills in these threads always conveniently miss these posts...
>"What if Miles Morales was Thor?" >"Well first of all Asgard would be a ghetto."
All we need is watermelon to be the new ambrosia and we've achieved peak stereotype
Miles' dynamic with his uncle is intact in every one of these stories but you just want to complain about hom being black. Also Gwen is doing the same thing exact thing currently but you seem to be turning a blind eye to this.
The connecting thematic tissue in these What Ifs is Miles playing other iconic Marvel characters, with his villainous uncles being the common aspect that ultimately makes all Miles' team up in the end to defeat their uncle
But, again--we're talking about Miles' character here. Not his power's origin.
This post
Miles' dynamic with his uncle is intact in every one of these stories but you just want to complain about hom being black. Also Gwen is doing the same thing exact thing currently but you seem to be turning a blind eye to this.
straight up ignores the criticism of
If he doesn't look like or act like Miles in any way, then it is not a "What if story where Miles is Thor", it's just "What if Thor was a random black guy?".
in favor of >"Uhh... but Aaronoki is still there! Obviously it's Miles' character!"
2 years ago
Anonymous
Miles who is Wolverine wouldn’t act exactly the same way as Miles who is Thor or Miles who is the Hulk. That’s how these multiverse variants always work, dumbass. They have certain core characteristic that is the same, otherwise they’re different. One of the emphasized in this series is Miles’ relationship with his uncle and how it drives and motivates him to do shit or grow as a person. Like how Thor Miles trusts Unca Loki too much until he tries to steal the throne. Or how Unca Sabretooth is how Wolverine Miles breaks from his circle of violence by not killing him and embraces a new family in the form of the X-men, no longer being alone.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Miles who is Wolverine wouldn’t act exactly the same way as Miles who is Thor or Miles who is the Hulk.
I didn't even mention those other stories, so you're really just completely side-stepping the criticism.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The criticism was that Miles doesn’t act or look like Miles, which is stupid because the entire fricking point is depicting Miles as if his origin and powers were that of another iconic Marvel character, and to explore that they’re using his shared common thread, his relationship to his uncle to reflect the differences in and ways Miles would turn out. Instead of a raging monster Hulk Miles is haunted by guilt. Thor Miles is too trusting and doubts himself and his worth until he has to confront his deceptive uncle. Sniktbub Miles is a loner that leaves him weak because he mistook his father’s behavior and has to learn to embrace family and help from others to survive, culminating in finding a new one in the X-men. They’re all interesting reflections of Miles and what differences there are compared to the original Marvel characters whose avatar he uses in these stories.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The criticism was that Miles doesn’t act or look like Miles, which is stupid because the entire fricking point is depicting Miles as if his origin and powers were that of another iconic Marvel character
Yup. That wouldn't change his core personality. You realize that's the whole point of these "What-If" stories, right? To see a character's personality used in the context of a different character's setting/powers?
Miles has no consistent character shown here. This is extremely pathetic of you to defend such empty writing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You realize that's the whole point of these "What-If" stories, right?
No, what if stories exist to do weird shit and one of the most common aspects of them is that the hero just about always acts way out of character in them compared to the original version to get some kind of weird, tacked on closure. Like Matt abandoning his life and living happily ever after if Elektra lived.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Still doesn't square the fact that this thread wasn't about Miles' other "What-If" stories. It's about how laughably racist this one is, in how it just uses stereotypes to prop up Miles' lack of a character.
He doesn't even act like Thor, he acts like "miscellaneous, jive black guy."
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's about how laughably racist this one is, in how it just uses stereotypes to prop up Miles' lack of a character
It doesn’t do that. It’s doing a fun Asgard meets modern Brooklyn mash up. And again, the point isn’t to be exactly like Thor, he’s intentionally depicted as the opposite of classic Thor in the story to reflect how if Thor was Miles he would act very differently and have different type of dynamic with Loki, who has this mischievous traitor side, but also shows underlying compassion and love towards his nephew.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It doesn’t do that.
Did you skip past the never-ending rap references of this Miles' character? The first two fricking pages are narrated in rap. Why?
Because it's a "black story."
2 years ago
Anonymous
So any time rap or hip hop is used it’s racist? For someone concerned about racism you see, awfully eager to say black people cannot be associated with rap at all. The story is clearly tongue in cheek, you pearl clutcher.
There are no bad storiesonly bad writers. I'm not saying it couldn't be fun, I'm saying I read it and it wasn't fun. The world doesn't feel real to me.
If you think the story wasn’t good, fine. But at least make a concrete criticism why the story didn’t work then. Most criticism here has only been “LOOK AT THIS, BLACK PEOPLE AND RAP REFERENCE?!”or “IT’S RACIST TO DO A WHAT IF LIKE THIS BECAUSE MILES IS BLACK”
probaly reffering about yasuke, a black slave that got sold to Oda Nobunaga.
who kept him around as a pet and allowed him to wear samurai armor.
during his first real battle, he lost and nearly killed but got spared and sold as a slave again and died later.
blacks are now pretending that yasuke was Oda Nobunaga's greatest warrior and close friend that was a great warrior (like that shitty netflix animated serie)
Yasuke is a respected and increasingly popular historical figure in Japan who has appeared in multiple video games and anime and manga.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Yasuke is a respected and increasingly popular historical figure
False
2 years ago
Anonymous
>So any time rap or hip hop is used it’s racist?
Not the guy you're responding to but no, that isn't it. It's not just the one thing, but everything in combination.
Look, you can show a black character eating fried chicken and that's fine. People eat fried chicken. It's delicious! But if you also have that black character in "da hood" and he has a "grill" and rap is playing and he's doing hip-hop dance moves and he drinks a forty and he drinks purple drink and he's doing drugs and he's dealing drugs and he's "spitting mad rhymes" and he "gets jiggy with it" and he's eating watermelon and there's graffiti all over the place and he speaks in thick ebonics and he robs a Korean convenience store and he rapes a white girl and he has baby mamas in every area code and his daddy went out for smokes but never came back, well, the combination is a wee bit racially insensitive. Your character is basically just Black Stereotypes Man.
It's over the top that there'd be graffiti on Black Thor's hammer. It's offensive that the moment Asgard has black people, there's suddenly a ghetto for them to live in, like they can't live in nice homes and must live in squalor even when in godland. Heck, even Black Thor itself is a bit of a stereotype since black superheroes with lightning powers are so common it's a joke. Again, that alone isn't racist, but when you add it up with everything else it's just a bit much. Not sure why I spoilered this but there you go.
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
It really isn't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
more ketamine, you must do
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's offensive that the moment Asgard has black people, there's suddenly a ghetto for them to live in, like they can't live in nice homes and must live in squalor even when in godland.
But the point is that this is modern day Brooklyn if it was Asgard. Not “it has to be a hood because blacks.” Nothing about the comic is depicting them living in squalor.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It's offensive that the moment Asgard has black people, there's suddenly a ghetto for them to live in, like they can't live in nice homes and must live in squalor even when in godland
Struggle defines the black experience and forms the bedrock for solidarity. It would actually be more offensive to show them living in mansions or something since it would come off as glorification of race traitors.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It would actually be more offensive to show them living in mansions or something since it would come off as glorification of race traitors.
Nah, blacks like it as long as it's only black people in power and they aren't living in a white man's mansion but a black man's mansion
2 years ago
Anonymous
There are no bad storiesonly bad writers. I'm not saying it couldn't be fun, I'm saying I read it and it wasn't fun. The world doesn't feel real to me.
2 years ago
Anonymous
This it needs a couple dozen murders in broad daylight if you really want a black vibe.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'd read the shit out of black viking gang bangers doing drive-by on goat chariots.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Miles doesn't act like Miles >Asgard is a NY ghetto >"Miles" Thor speaks in rap so bad a white person is the only possible person who could've written it" >"It's not racist, Miles just doesn't act like Miles because he's Thor here! Asgardian Ghetto is fun!"
Why does this have to be Miles's story? Why is it that if Miles is Thor, Asgard resembles New York?
Because this is written by someone who would probably refer to a black person as an "urban american" and claim they have nothing but respect for them from atop their higher income high rise.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>To see a character's personality used in the context of a different character's setting/powers?
According to who? Even stan lee never saya this
2 years ago
Anonymous
*says
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They have certain core characteristic that is the same
Which is what? We've yet to see a consistent personality trait out of this bland character.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Miles who is Wolverine wouldn’t act exactly the same way as Miles who is Thor or Miles who is the Hulk.
Of course, then he's adopting traits from different characters
You fricking disingenuous twat
2 years ago
Anonymous
They’re literally nothing like the base characters. Hulk Miles isn’t an uncontrollable rage monster apart. Thor Miles isn’t an arrogant dude to who needs to learn humility. Did you even read the comics you dumb frick?
You never proved it was racist. You just kept claiming it was racist because it was heavily using black culture mixed with Asgard.
Christ the stench of a shill is just palpable
Treating a casual conversation like it's a courtroom case, assuming everyone you're speaking to is pursuing an agenda (obvious projection), wary over the general "outlook" things have
have a nice day
The thing about Miles is, nobody can even muster up hatred for the character. You'd need something *to* hate but for Miles there is no there, there. He just exists as a mediocre tertiary option, the kid even has his own movie but people are there for Classic Spidey not New-Coke Miles, or even Spider-Gwen over him. Again, nobody hates him, its just that he is nobody's go-to choice when wanting to watch or read about a Spider-person when there are dozens of better options. Even the writers don't know what to do with him.
I mean, it's not a shocker. Cape comics have been rearranging deck chairs on the titanic for 20 years now and haveshit like batman-joker and hulk-thor vs thor-hulk. Black Thor in Ghettogard, introduced with his own shitty rap? Frick it, toss it on.
They're clearly not interested in telling any stories, may as well make a weak attempt at scoring woke points while waiting for the disney checks to arrive.
I never understood the point of this "blacks weren't just there but were inportant figures in euro history" thing. Like how BBC medias (pun not included) keeps forcing black brits in their supposed historical works.
Like what's the point? >Europeans were always black, so when they invaded Africa they were simply commiting black on black crime and genocide
For virtually all of history they were just kind of there. Their violent tendencies didn't allow for them to cooperate in large enough groups to accomplish anything like a writing system to record their histories of cannibalizing each other. This makes racial differences apparent which in turn makes them feel inferior and that's offensive. And when they get offended they get violent. Black people have no history before Europeans got involved. The only option then is to insert them into European history so that they don't eat us. Yes this is incredibly offensive to everyone else but we're not going to cook anybody on a tire fire about it.
>Their violent tendencies didn't allow for them to cooperate in large enough groups to accomplish anything like a writing system to record their histories of cannibalizing each other.
Mali and Sudan did well enough before the muslim curse put them in drug addictions
The reason they're not as advanced is because African weather is unpredictable. You can't make a civilization if you never know when a powerful storm or flood is gonna wreck everything.
>afrofuturism >Ghettofuturism
Reminder that they would still be small tribes living in mudhuts and cannibalizing each other with no concept of time if the god damned ~~*Portuguese*~~ just left them alone.
>Reminder that they would still be small tribes living in mudhuts and cannibalizing each other with no concept of time if the god damned ~~*Portuguese*~~ just left them alone.
Well it's interesting how Zulu empire started when brits were starting their african colonization, if they gave them 100 years maybe the whole SS Africa would have had a king
NTA but it's kinda weird to have him be legitimately born to Odin, because it makes it less Miles and more "Black guy also called Miles" I would have expected something like "normal" Miles Morales finds and becomes worthy of Mjolnir before he can get bit by the spider
>wouldn't be god of mischief if I couldn't prowl my way into a room
Is this supposed to be a wink wink nudge nudge thing? Who the frick uses prowl like that?
[...]
...he is white, though. what're you on about?
[...]
Not him but the argument on "who is or isn't white" has always been weird. It's like you are only white unless we have to prove something to black people. Then you are israeli, hispanic or something else.
I toss my middle school shoes on a telephone wire, just to see if I could do it.
Also the shoes were old, and I just got a new pair
deadass I've never heard this before seems kinda cappy homies just sometimes are buttholes and throw your shoes up there to be dicks or if they take someones J's and they the wrong size they ain't gonna give back what they stole
i also read that shoes can indicate gang territory, regardless of what it represents it doesnt change the fact they put in there as "black decoration"
Pic Related is him acting silly with what the OP is saying, he isn't one of those self hating brown mexican that call themselves whites because in all his bios he says Proud Mexijew.
lel whitexican as frick
See
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He is lightskinned, but not white.
Maybe white in spain or Italy, but not in the US census
I don't give a shit about the etnicity of the writer, the issue was subpar bordering on pathetic because of the "how do you do fellow kids", that shit ain't got to do with race.
A black writer could've put this out and it would've been as bad. Sure the wigger posturing makes it a little funnier, but let us not forget that Marvel pandering to perpetually angry folks on twatter who do NOT buy comics is what got us into a position where only black people can write black characters, only Mexicans can write Mexicans and only gays can write gays (or at least you shouldn't ask any write writer before you've gone through all the "better" alternatives). Hudlin's Black Panther isn't less bad because he's a black going all we wuz kangs, in fact it's worse for it.
Not him but the argument on "who is or isn't white" has always been weird. It's like you are only white unless we have to prove something to black people. Then you are israeli, hispanic or something else.
>Not him but the argument on "who is or isn't white" has always been weird
It's bullshit based on non-objective relativity. I am as white as a ghost, yet some morons who still think it's the 20th Century on here wouldn't consider me white for my Irish ancestry.
Honestly, it's a win-win for me. I am white, yet I am also not white? Neat!
Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it weird. 100 years ago "white" meant Anglo and it slowly grew to incorporate light skinned European peoples who willfully assimilated into American culture.
>It wasn't shitty before Black folk got here.
You weren't even fricking alive before "Black folk" got there, you fricking moron. You have absolutely no way of knowing that.
So, that magically erases the fact that black people--as a whole--weren't allowed to assimilate? Your whataboutism has no bearing on the utterly idiotic claim you earlier made.
>So, that magically erases the fact that black people--as a whole--weren't allowed to assimilate
Because of other black people. Yes. What it doesn't erase is that thet STILL refuse to assimilate after 150+ years of being free.
Black people created the circumstances for every bit of 'mistreatment' and racism they have ever experienced, in more ways than one. Correct.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Why are you making up fanfiction of black people.
2 years ago
Anonymous
A better question is "why did you even respond to that since its entirely, provably wrong". Its like if I said "Its a white kids fault for being born into privilege" since nothing about that sentence is correct.
2 years ago
Anonymous
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They being able to own slaves isn't the same as being able to internalize.
Look at injuns, they could buy black slaves but if you asked a whitey to make one of them citzen they would say "too redskinned" and killed him.
>Black folk coping and seething
BTFOing yourselves for 400+ years.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do white people realise how low the bar is fornotbeing called racist, sexist or a nazi? Like literally just don't be those things
That the first black guy had black indentured servants and brought a lawsuit that literally institutionalized hereditary slavery in the colonies?
Yeah that's a gotchya.
They being able to own slaves isn't the same as being able to internalize.
Look at injuns, they could buy black slaves but if you asked a whitey to make one of them citzen they would say "too redskinned" and killed him.
>What more could we possibly do, other than go extinct?
Give an equal segregation.
Blacks hates how their men worship white c**ts as much as white men hates it, it's a worship rooted in white supremacy and the wish to eradicate blackness as it happened in Brazil.
Also make an equal segregation works this time, no more "I'm so angry I will go in black people only city to shot their workers" just "my place, your place"
No this is thinking it, Asgard being in america could make sense as "vinland made asgardians proud" at least.
The only way for this to make sense is that Brooklyn used to be Vinland and then the black slaves arrived and interbreed wirh the people creating a norse black race
Urban and Fantasy are diametrically opposed, I honestly rather Afro futurism than this shit. No wonder actual Africans laugh at African Americans holy shit
>How about American whites write a big check and send all of your asses back to Africa? I would be behind a plan that spent my tax dollars to repatriate willing blacks, build a reasonable amount of infrastructure and provide aid for a reasonable amount of time, with the understanding that the money faucet will be turned off eventually.
Ew no.
They already tried that shit with Liberia, it's a shithole.
No one wants to go to Africa, America is fine to live in
Because the rest of the world never stopped seething about America's existence after we formed. And, average Americans thinks we're the center of the universe, so they only focus on the bad things we do.
>Then why do I only hear about American and white racists in the media?
You don't hear about chinks being racist shits?
It's being shilled everywhere in national tv, hell even when those israelites dressed in blackface for Purim
Don't worry, this thread will disappear soon and we'll all get bans. The mod just passed out after dialating his neovegana. It had been closing up the last few days, but today was the first day that the suture scars weren't too inflamed. Plus, the ever-present stream of pus acts as a lubricant.
Anyway, the mod was dilating his neovegana and he caught glimpse of a child outside the window with no adult present and the tiny little root stub of what's left of his penis contracted so hard it caused the dilator to go to deep and hit a nerve cluster and...
Anyway, this thread will surely disappear once the mod's had enough time to weep himself back to consciousness and post something about JK Rowling on Twitter.
>How about American whites write a big check and send all of your asses back to Africa?
It would be a drop in the bucket compared the costs of social welfare for them.
That's one of many reasons why it will never be allowed. The products of white labor belong to everyone except whites. Just as having access to whites and white cultures is a basic human right, unless you're white.
No the truth is israelites have been manipulating and enslaving you for hundreds of years and you blame it all on white people because you're unironically racist and think everyone with lighter skin than you is the same.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Jews*
If that can make you feel better blacks are starting to hate israelites as much as whites and so other caucasians because they are white skinned or at least pale.
That's why the term caucasian become a thing, because it was supposed to mean "you light skinned devils!" that could have been israelites, arabs and chineses alike
2 years ago
Anonymous
>caucasian
The word exists to keep israelites out.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, caucasian applies to all the race that shares the caucasoid features.
Jews as a semitic race are caucasian.
A non caucasian semite is a dravidian or sub saharan black.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Jews as a semitic race are caucasian
I really do hope you're just trying to bait because the alternative is almost beyond belief.
Keep telling yourself that. They are in your neighborhoods and yall ain't doing jack shit
>Lincoln County
Oh no next it will be our MLK Blvds!
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Ironic how blacks on twitter simply wants to date black women and blackcels on this site just wants other races women.
Almost like inceldom makes you self racist
The overwhelming majority of all races marry within their own race.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I really do hope you're just trying to bait because the alternative is almost beyond belief.
An afrasian without caucasianoid genes is just a Neanderthal
You hate the Whites so much that you're willingly to deny israelites were highly responsible of the Slave Trade, not to mention it's them to give you "representation" against "muh waycist wipipo". Marvel, DC, Disney+, Netflix, all the woke corporations are all israeli. You just hate Whites and frankly you disgust me so much. You should sftu instead of crying "Waycism fro wipipo"
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You hate the Whites so much that you're willingly to deny israelites were highly responsible of the Slave Trade,
Again man, blacks are starting to realize israelites are as guilty of racism as whites, that's why the term light skin privilege was invented.
Weren't you there when blacks got fricking pissed at Israel antiblack policy? > not to mention it's them to give you "representation" against "muh waycist wipipo". Marvel, DC, Disney+, Netflix, all the woke corporations are all israeli. You just hate Whites and frankly you disgust me so much. You should sftu instead of crying "Waycism fro wipipo"
You can hate white and israelites too. It's not that hating one means the other is justified.
White and israelites are both two parassitic and racist world scums
2 years ago
Anonymous
I like this guy.
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>Whites are forced to bow
Shut up goyim, I mean cattle and go back to sucking israeli toes.
white people just can't stop copying black people since the last 20s.
No the truth is israelites have been manipulating and enslaving you for hundreds of years and you blame it all on white people because you're unironically racist and think everyone with lighter skin than you is the same.
But, no, white people can't appreciate good music--it's the israelites who made them hang out and have fun in Harlem night clubs!
>revisionism
You realize there's footage of whitest of white people from the 30s swing dancing, right? And enjoying blues and jazz, decades later rock n roll and rap...
You're arguing against documented history, pal. >DA JOOS
aren't a good enough excuse this time.
First off, everything you just listed originated in white culture. No black in Africa ever wrote a song or made a musical instrument more complex than a drum before meeting other cultures. And just like "black cuisine" which consists of deep fried gizzards and pigs feet, blacks took white music and degraded it and made it into a populist art form.
Now, to be honest, this is honestly probably the coolest thing blacks ever did. Aside from wondering what the music of the big band era might have evolved into if not for the sudden and eventually dominating presence of black influence in popular music, I think we can all agree that Jazz, rock, the blues, etc. are legitimate artistic expressions. And about the only part of black culture I've ever witnessed that addressed any ideas of transcendence.
But that's literally the ONLY thing I ever hear about when it comes to black contributions to culture other than the aforementioned cholesterol cuisine. Where are the great works of literature(that DON'T revolve around some kind of civil rights remembrance or racial grievance), painting(that DON'T resembled moronic postmodern scribblings), cinema(see literature)? Where is any proof that blacks can sustain the culture that some of them are able to ape and imitate in a degraded fashion?
Okay, so you took transcendent, complex music and you degraded it, infused it with ass-twerking jungle beats and fed it back to the culture from where it was spawned. White music. With white instruments. Inspired by white musical theory. Whoop de shit.
Rap is pure 100% bullshit. You can fricking have it. The greatest rappers will all time will always be those three israeli kids from Brooklyn.
Finally, mankind's greatest pianist was a black dude. Bet you never even heard of him.
>Where is any proof that blacks can sustain the culture that some of them are able to ape and imitate in a degraded fashion?
Kenyan dresses and fetish for animals got well estabilished in the Kenya society
What? What was that about schools and hospitals and power plants and garbage collection and infrastructure? Why are you talking about dresses and animal fricking?
The black guys I work with a couple of years ago were joking about a crackhead that had sat on someone's porch and chewed off all of his own toes that weekend. Does that count?
Guess who gets to pay for his disability checks? It ain't DaShawn or any of his friends.
That's what you think because the alpha community has rejected the notion of modern day capitalism and are taking what they want. Smash and grabs are nothing short of the future where the strong take and the weak pay
Until white folks get tired of it. Tolerance only makes us appear weak. Unfortunately there's no middle ground between "okay cool it buddy" and "BLUT UND EIRE".
You will do nothing and accept it. Your institutions have replaced all your monuments with symbols of power, your women have submitted themselves to alpha men, your businesses take losses to appease this contigent and while you day you can move away or fight back, laws, grants, and now numbers are no longer on your side. Your time is up and a new dark age will begin
I believe the phrase is "frick around and find out". Black folk burning down their own neighborhood drugstores isn't fricking around so much as fricking themselves.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Keep telling yourself that. They are in your neighborhoods and yall ain't doing jack shit
You will do nothing and accept it. Your institutions have replaced all your monuments with symbols of power, your women have submitted themselves to alpha men, your businesses take losses to appease this contigent and while you day you can move away or fight back, laws, grants, and now numbers are no longer on your side. Your time is up and a new dark age will begin
Ironic how blacks on twitter simply wants to date black women and blackcels on this site just wants other races women.
Almost like inceldom makes you self racist
who is this for? i feel this pisses off both the usual crowd who get angry at this sort of stuff but also the pro diversity/social justice types because the execution is so poor
>who is this for? i feel this pisses off both the usual crowd who get angry at this sort of stuff but also the pro diversity/social justice types because the execution is so poor
The writer
it's hilarious that marvel/disney doesn't even realise that they are still using the trope of blacks stealing/taking over existing characters identity or history.
it's even funnier that they are using miles for it, because they realy want to push him even though the vast majority of readers don't like miles or give a shit about him.
one of bendis black oc donut steal characters (because he has a black fetish)
No need, you already caught your L by being a Cinemaphile tough boy. If you want to try for round 2, try talking like that in real life and we'll see how long you last. You'll make decent money if you live stream it!
You unironically challenged me to an IRL fight. You lost as soon as you did that, and you lost twice for thinking I'd agree. What do you think I'd say "ok, here's my dox"? No, the correct answer is to point and laugh at the internet tough guy.
I challenged you to punch me. You don't even have the balls.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lol, where should we host the fight, Tonkasaw?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You don't have the machismo for a free shot and now you want to fight me? Come on man just put your tail between your legs and call it a day.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You say >I challenged you to punch me. You don't even have the balls.
I say >where should we host the fight
Now you say >N-no! You don't actually want to fight me! J-just run away!
Do you like being humiliated?
2 years ago
Anonymous
At your house.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh sure! Here's my dox, my social security number, my dog's name, and the last 4 digits of my credit card: https://files.catbox.moe/atoa64.jpg
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah that's what I thought tough guy.
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
2 years ago
Anonymous
The reflection is me laughing at you? I already know I'm laughing at you, so what's with the mirror?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'd explain it to you but I don't want you to get hurt.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The explanation is "yes, its my reflection of me laughing at you" because it literally can not be anything else. Anyway, why did this start? I mocked you for acting like an internet tough guy, and then I mocked you for b***hing out the second I challenged you?
2 years ago
Anonymous
This is what I'm talking about, I didn't explain it and you're still hurt. I don't want to cause any more damage.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Maybe if I say he's upset, h-he'll leave me alone!
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't want you to leave me alone though.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What you want is irrelevant. I'm just going to mock you until I'm bored. Its funny how you can whine about black people on Cinemaphile, but the second someone makes fun of you, you just get buck broken.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Very ironic post, good one.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I don't want you to leave me alone though.
You don't want to be alone. Here anon, I'll join in and give you some company.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I just wanted anon to keep BTFOing himself honestly. You can frick off.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah I'll stick around.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lmao, you look like you found someone else to make fun of you, too. Maybe you should go back to making fun of black people; I'm sure that'll win you some friends.
>By Odin's fade
I refuse to believe that this is an actual panel. There is no way someone looks at that line and thinks "Wow, black people will love this"
You know what? I don't even mind this, it's a fine idea and the execution is better than I expected. But there's zero reason for it to be Miles Morales. It feels really reductive and tokenizing in a way that the character has even railed against in-universe back when he was still Ultimate Spider-Man.
Just make Thor Black, he doesn't need to also be another character. Or if he really DOES, use Luke Cage, who's already deep in the Blaxploitation vibes in a way Miles isn't and shouldn't be.
You’re literally only crying because Miles is black. What ifs have done shit like this before. What if Barbara Ketch had been Ghosr Rider, what if Punisher had become Captain America, what if Dr. Doom had become Sorcerer Supreme, what if Rogue had become Thor, what if Tony Stark was Sorcerer Supreme, etc. etc.
For fricks sake, Gwen Stacy is literally having the same goddamn idea done in her own book which has Gwen be Thor, Iron Gwen, Captain America. Where’s the major butthurt about that comic? The constant threads whining about that? Nowhere, because she’s white. Meanwhile people keep crying about hip hop Thor.
Spider-Gwen IS trash and her book is every bit as soulless as this garbage. Coomers just scare everyone away.
So if you don't like it, start jerking off or beg Marvel to genderswap, you'll enjoy this seeing the exact same cancer lording over Spider-Gwen threads in no time if it works.
>Punisher becomes Captain America
Interesting concept because Punisher is a psycho mass murdering vigilante given the title of a WWII paragon. >Dr. Doom becomes Sorcerer Supreme
Interesting concept because such a title is given to a narcissistic sociopath + science genius as well as magician prodigy. Same with Stark.
Miles is such a blank slate, may as well just have "what if my self-insert was the famous hero" for a story. There's nothing interesting about giving him an identity of other heroes, no reason to think "wow, that's cool. I want to read it to see how that turns out", it's not intriguing or engaging. You know exactly how it's gonna turn out.
>There's nothing interesting about giving him an identity of other heroes
Except these stories are interesting because of how different the Miles version of the character ends up being. And it’s always tied to his family and especially his relationship with his uncle. Family and how it impacts Miles’ life is a major reoccurring theme.
But it's not interesting. It's just more of the same shit as classic boring-ass Miles, but stealing from a different hero and adding a dash of "how do you do fellow kids"
Maybe read them before saying such embarrassingly inaccurate bs.
2 years ago
Anonymous
And here goes >y-you didn't read them
I swear, milesgays will eat up any shit that's on their plate as long as it has their favorite character drawn on it.
In other words, the same story but Miles Morales is Black Thor and not Black Spider-Man.
A more interesting What If would remove the family element from Miles entirely and see how he fairs. Probably not so well but then again most What Ifs don't end that great for the hero.
Yeah, and half of those are stupid too. Just like "X kills the Marvel Universe" shit, or many other things that just were bad. It's not like all those stories all received universal praise by all until Miles fricked up some imaginary decades long hot streak "What if/Elseworld's" stories had because racism
They aren't. You didn't read those and just said they're stupid so you can win an argument with that shill you responded to who thinks a subpar Miles as Thor comic was in any way comparable to the other What Ifs.
Not that anon, but the problem with your argument:
>What if Barbara Ketch had been Ghosr Rider,
She was Dan Ketch's sister and her death was part of the reason Dan became Ghost Rider. A story like this would make sense because it asks what if Dan got killed and Barbara ended up becoming Ghost Rider instead.
>What if Punisher had become Captain America,
The question and drama here is "can a bloodthirsty vigilante find it in himself to be worthy of the mantle of Captain America or will he fall further?" It also works off an established point--what if Captain America was horribly injured instead of simply badly injured after the events of Captain America #212?
>what if Dr. Doom had become Sorcerer Supreme,
It asks what happens if a villain who has a history of sorcery, to the point where he could've become a candidate for Sorcerer Supreme, got that much power, and how does it affect things. Does he get his mom out of hell? Does he still fight the Fantastic Four? What happens to Doctor Strange? The idea also works off a possible alt point, where instead of seeking monks to get armor and mask, he decided to go find the Ancient One instead.
Not that anon, but the problem with your argument:
>What if Barbara Ketch had been Ghosr Rider,
She was Dan Ketch's sister and her death was part of the reason Dan became Ghost Rider. A story like this would make sense because it asks what if Dan got killed and Barbara ended up becoming Ghost Rider instead.
>What if Punisher had become Captain America,
The question and drama here is "can a bloodthirsty vigilante find it in himself to be worthy of the mantle of Captain America or will he fall further?" It also works off an established point--what if Captain America was horribly injured instead of simply badly injured after the events of Captain America #212?
>what if Dr. Doom had become Sorcerer Supreme,
It asks what happens if a villain who has a history of sorcery, to the point where he could've become a candidate for Sorcerer Supreme, got that much power, and how does it affect things. Does he get his mom out of hell? Does he still fight the Fantastic Four? What happens to Doctor Strange? The idea also works off a possible alt point, where instead of seeking monks to get armor and mask, he decided to go find the Ancient One instead.
>what if Rogue had become Thor,
Which starts on a divergent point of the fight in Avengers Annual #10, so it's also believable. That was the time she had absorbed Carol Danvers' powers, so the question is what would've happened if she had absorbed Thor's powers during the fight and killed him in the process.
>what if Tony Stark was Sorcerer Supreme,
This works with two ideas:
-A drunk Tony causes the accident that wrecks Stephen's hands, so Tony's burdened with guilt and has another motivation, and Stephen gradually becomes resentful
-Tony typically doesn't care for magic in the main universe. The story doesn't go into his change of mind much but this could've been a good one to interest people.
Each of these work with an established story and work in a different direction and shows what happens to events and situations when one thing changes.
The only Miles What If that worked was the Hulk one because it stuck to changing just Miles, and then changing situations around. The others don't work because they proceeded to change other characters (Ganke and Tiana Toomes) without explanation, and the Thor one falls apart because there's no explanation why Miles, Ganke, Tiana, and others are Asgardians.
>The others don't work because they proceeded to change other characters (Ganke and Tiana Toomes) without explanation, and the Thor one falls apart because there's no explanation why Miles, Ganke, Tiana, and others are Asgardians.
This is a very narrow minded approach to What if stories. Especially in modern Multiverse approach that allows more creative freedom instead of doing lazy just do x instead of y in story z. And these stories all are building to a larger story where the Mileses have to team up together rather than be one and done. The series functions differently and that’s why it works better than most what if stories that are incredibly lazy.
>This is a very narrow minded approach to What if stories. Especially in modern Multiverse approach that allows more creative freedom instead of doing lazy just do x instead of y in story z. And these stories all are building to a larger story where the Mileses have to team up together rather than be one and done. The series functions differently and that’s why it works better than most what if stories that are incredibly lazy.
No it doesn't. If anything you're making the Miles What If story sound incredibly lazy by your description. The old What Ifs gave thought to something changing, and then what would be the consequence of that change.
Hell, it's not even hard to do the Miles as Thor comic. There's like several different explanations to work with, and this comic didn't even bother to give an explanation.
Miles doesn't really have an identity or personality of his own. He's got a nice costume, but can't even get his own hero name; he's just "Spider-man".
Truthfully, they wanted to raceswap Thor without seeming racist, so they needed to attach a name to it. But Miles' backstory has nothing to do with this new comic and doesn't effect anything. It's not about an urban youth finding Mjolnir; he's still explicitly Odin's son and Asgard as a whole is just black urban New Yorkers now.
>How about American whites write a big check and send all of your asses back to Africa?
american blacks would be genocided is they got shipped to africa. africans hate them more than anyone else.
There's a pretty decent documentary about African Americans migrating back to Africa.
I don't want to spoil it because so much of it is funny but suffice to say, it doesn't work out very well for a lot of them. Here's a funny bit if you don't want to watch a full 20 minutes. A good sample of what goes on.
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Starts at 7:43 if the timestamp doesn't work.
>a one-issue story within a bigger run has an established character with his own identity adopt another character's identity
vs >an entire book dedicated to how a character who leeches off another character's identity is leeching off other characters' identities
But yes, it must be because he's black.
this is too hood to be racist. the streets had graffiti everywhere but Odin's place didn't. if Milesthor is the only one acting like a dumb gangsta then it squares with how Thor was an butthole who needed to get humbled.
Dude, I call israelites white by knowing they're a semitoid breed.
But like white latinos, armenians and north indians they're white.
They benefit from white privelege and can be antiblack racist too.
Dude, I call israelites white by knowing they're a semitoid breed.
But like white latinos, armenians and north indians they're white.
They benefit from white privelege and can be antiblack racist too.
You're both wrong. Most israelites alive today are Ashkenazi, they are a predominantly Germanic people. Ethnic israelites, Mizrahi, are almost genetically indistinct from Arabs aside from the defects they've accumulated from inbreeding.
It should exist at this point a Nordic version of Black Panther, with all the characters White, Blonde and Blue Eyed. All of them in Africa, since they like blackwashing a White God
Alright, I get what you say, but they're bastardizing actual White folklore, it should be fair to bastardize their fantasy created by Marvel israelites
>but they're bastardizing actual White folklore
Yeah that is Marvel's Thor in a nutshell. I mean where does the Warriors Three exist in the folklore? Where's the horse alien Beta Ray Bill? Marvel Thor was never an accurate depiction of Norse folklore.
>Does that mean we're supposed to actually like it?
No.
There are things that are hated both by libs and rights because they fail to appeal one of those group and so become something that no one wants.
For example, latinx is a term hated by libs because it's an attempt to erase a foreign language and rightoids hate it because it's pronouns shit
No, the libs love it. It's just the Hispanics that hate it because it's moronic but the libs refuse to let it go because they're absolutely bound to the progressive identity politics. Some of them are even accusing Hispanics of transphobia because they refuse to use more inclusive language like latinx.
>No, the libs love it.
Wrong.
The scummest lib scum likes it, the libs that we could call "redpilled" consider latine a more proper and less white lib word.
Point is, both libs and rightoids hate the x word
Like as a black person would it be too hard to not have blacks be obnoxiously ghetto or say shit like fade or wear timbs even fricking fresh prince of Bel air could do this better
Like as a black person would it be too hard to not have blacks be obnoxiously ghetto or say shit like fade or wear timbs even fricking fresh prince of Bel air could do this better
>behaves stereotyoically >aaaaa what's with all these stereotypes
As a white man, we're ready for you to knock it the frick off at any time.
Frick off anon I don't act like this and I know plenty of blacks that don't it'd be like if I decided to make a white black panther solely based on redneck stereotypes or suburbs white stereotypes.
>I don't act like this and I know plenty of blacks that don't
Good for you but unfortunately everyone knows that most of you do. Racism isn't going away by defeating or ignoring stereotypes in fiction, that just makes it worse. It will go away when those stereotypes are defeated IRL and not before.
Miles is as good as the person who's writing him is. He has some good runs, it's just a shame that everyone has to essentially try to build off the world's blandest template Bendis left them.
I'm struggling to understand this narration about Yggdrasil. Does it mean that it relocated to modern day Brooklyn, in which case Thor, being thousands of years old, should still be ethnically Northern European? Or is it saying it was there all along? Wouldn't he be like Native American in that case?
And even if Thor spontaneously did become an ethnic member of Brooklyn, why specifically Black? What if he became Italian or an Orthodox israelite instead?
Ghettofuturism Punks
Lol how is this not fricking racist?
because it's true
How can it be racist when it's basically what their neighborhood look like minus the civilized people.
Reality is racist anon, the only way to truly not be racist is to be a reality denying mental patient
Yes, it's more than a little racist to nonsensically "blackify" Thor with nonsense like a graffiti'd Mjolnir, the Astral Hood, and "By Odin's Fade", and yes twitter's super mad about it.
That's the point. They want the comic to be "controversial" and now that "wokeness" is fading from the limelight the way to be controversial is to be racist but with a little plausible deniability.
This is a what if comic
The thing is that for the writer Miles has not enough of an identity to be written in a serious What If.
Like in a possible "Punisher becomes Sorcerer Supreme" you explore Frank dealing with his family dead, trying to play a long suicide and going to kill as much crime scum there is, and then the writer explores what happens if he turns into a magical wizard.
In this comic the only consitency is "Miles is a generic kid with problems" and "uncle and dad play a part".
Not enough to explore his identity or why it's only Miles that happens and not another black guy.
And I say this as a guy that read Ahmed's Miles.
The reoccurring theme is how his family always defines Miles and turns him into a hero. Either by his dad pushing him away, Miles feeling unworthy, Miles idolizing his uncle who turns out to be no good, etc. It’s a consistent message about importance of family and how they define you.
>The reoccurring theme is how his family always defines Miles and turns him into a he--
>Yes, it's more than a little racist to nonsensically "blackify" Thor
Americans do this with deities they think were real.
Is that a drug dealer operating that food cart? The civilians better watch out for that drive-by shooter his in half-car being pulled by a goat.
>rhymed low key with loki
Gaiman did it first.
When?
American gods, a background character is Low-Key lyesmith, or something like that. I was a dumb twelve year old when I read it, and I remember that part bein painfully obvious
>crime in progress
>Ancient sculptures covered in graffiti
>Sneakers on telephone wires
>Not a single white person in sight (presumably have fled)
Holy shit
Yeah, that fricking sucks. I'd actually like some afro-norse story, but I don't believe any even vaguely norse people would tolerate graffiti on any sculpture.
In graffiti culture, tagging over another person's tag is a sign of disrespect. You wouldn't do it unless you were thinking "frick this guy". So, wouldn't tagging over a sculpture of a god be the same thing, but disrespect to the god?
Also, I want Odin to stay white. Don't know why. I don't give a shit about any other god.
It's hilarious and so sad, it's this really supposed to be inspirational? The author vision of an afromerican Asgard is a hood with their own statues tag with graffiti and shoes hanging from power lines? There is something deeply broken within black people in america.
>black people in america.
Asgard? More like, Aksgard!
>Shoes in powerlines
DESE homieS DEALIN' CRACK
It's false. Think about how stupid you'd have to be to signal to the cops that you're dealing drugs in this area.
>Think about how stupid you'd have to be to signal to the cops that you're dealing drugs in this area.
Like black stupid.
>Giant goat pulling along a mini car or a car shaped cart
Okay this part I like just for the sheer pointlessness of it.
I'm so sick of constant tokenization bullshit
...
Racist here, even I am blushing at how stereotypical this is.
I mean, it's garbage, but were you really expecting anything else?
I can't tell if this is pandering or a joke by a racist.
There was never any difference
As a Dane, I can't tell if this is more racist towards me, or towards black Americans.
At least it seems like people are pushing back against it, so I can just enjoy it as the absolutely moronic idea that it is.
>As a Dane
The frick is that?
Someone from Denmark, a Nordic country.
a dog
t. svedistan cvck
Can't believe they turned Asgard into Wakanda.
This shit always cracks me up. The cherry on top would be if he started rapping. "MY NAME IS THOR AND I'M HERE TO SAY" lmao. And then he could get on a skateboard and kick it to his auntie and uncle in Bel-Air. Just such corny shit.
asgardian drip haha i can frick with it
I hope you get raped by a wild pack of Black folk.
I think afro-norse stuff can work well, and I think the comic is well drawn, but there's just some things that don't seem right to me. I don't think norse people would tolerate graffitiing on statues, and in graffiti culture, its a bad thing to tag over someone else's tag. I feel like that same sentiment would extend to the statues.
That's generally what runes are, right? Just tell them they're modern runes that add spiritual blessings or some supernatural superstition shit. Both the Nords and Nignogs (Nignords?) are a highly superstitious lot.
But could any guy slap a rune on another guy's work? Actually, graffiti runes sounds like a neat idea, but how much of both culture is being lost by saying "ehhh, just slap some shit on that statue, it'd be fine!".
I assure you this thread has put in more thought into how it could work than the actual writers of this cringe shit, and anons aren't even really trying. Statues are dedications to gods and heroic figures. Runes are embellishments for things like weapons, ritual items, and statues. They're both forms of art but have different roles to play. It could work.
Which superhero identity is he going to steal next?
IBOMBE!
>black paradise has graffiti everywhere and shoes on the phonelines
looks like something /misc/ would make as a parody
That how shallow woke people are.
How are graffiti a bad thing? The only issue in the comic is that it’s very lazy because the artist didn’t even even try.
>How are graffiti a bad thing?
Not him but it's the way it's done in the comic. Most of the graffiti done is just tags which is gang shit and there is far too much. No one would live with graffiti everywhere if they did have to. I would understand if they were like murals depicting battles or something relevant but most are just names with no real substance.
Like I said, the issue is entirely that the artist was lazy. But how much effort can you really expect from a random what if miniseries where the creative team changes every issue. The writer probably had way more thought and effort put into the script than the actual artist during the parts depicting Asgard.
>But how much effort can you really expect from a random what if miniseries where the creative team changes every issue.
It takes no effort to draw less graffiti
>Asgard is his hood
I'm not even mad, that specific set of words is the best surreal comedy I've seen in months.
The overt racism from this comic is hilarious
>He gotta wear comfy nikes that look CLEAN regardless of if they match his outfit or not because ... homieZ, AM I RIGHT?!? They don't wear BOOTS!!
How is this a real thing?
So you want him rocking Timbs like Odin?
The line between parody or willful ignorance is very thin
>homiez gotta where THEM TIMBS N SHIT! Can't be a reg hero when they a Black, am I right!?!?
My god, how did no one stop this from happening?
Where’s his fade? He’s fricking bald
he lost it and doesn't want anyone drawing attention to it
so people keep swearing by his no longer existent fade
or that's the funniest explanation when the real one is probably "by odin's beard" isn't blackety black enough for the writer
The ice giant has it…for some reason
>That dialogue.
Jesus wept. What were they thinking?
>this is how those darkies talk, they'll love it
I mean the grammar and syntax is waaaaaay too advanced but
>giants also wearing gold chains
They weren’t.
Lol
>Ghettofuturism Punks
That's tautologically redundant The punk part is already respective of ghettos.
Wait a minute, that statue...
More variations of Miles Morales and it's always the same thing they never test new villains especially female villains they never try to create a Black Cat for Miles, look at this issue there is no black woman with fat ass, I mean they are so dumb they don't even know what a black reader would like to see Marvel comics has the worst creative team ever
Someone who came from the ghettos of Newark, this is too rich. Who's the writer for this?
A israeli latino wigger
I think this man actively hates black people
This proves my thesis that modern industry writers have no sense of "cool" anymore. Hipster can only regurgitate stale cultural tropes, they can't evaluate quality or come up with anything new.
What the FRICK is current Marvel holy shit jfc.
>supposed to be le inspirational and POWERFUL
Looks like a fricking post apocalyptic city.
>Shoes on wires usually indicate drug deals
What the frick
There are people, usually kids, who just throw shoes up there for shits and giggles
I have never seen that, but I am not a Black person, nor do I live in a Black person neighborhood.
This is embarrassing
Just a question...
a white gay dude wrote this?
no a gay israeli latino
Oh we’re going to cry about this again? Don’t people have better things to do than fake concern trolling and complaining about what if stories?
OP has been making Miles threads for months. Anything new comes along gets spammed until something else happens.
if you come to Cinemaphile you don't have anything better to do
Is there outrage over this? I have never seen any. It’s just some gay one-off. People are too apathetic to give a frick about Miles in general now.
Its a series of one offs
There was an entire thread whining about it yesterday and concern trolls insisting it was racist.
It is racist.
Im not concerned about it, its hilarious. Like how Marvel made a show about high tech Black city and the warriors are all throwing spears. Shits priceless.
>It’s racist because lol it’s racist
Its not racist you dumbass cracker
>no logic, not even a glimpse of an argument
Very compelling, buddy.
How can I argue with someone who doesn't even know what racism is
>STILL no argument
Jesus, dude, just give up. It's not like anyone else is buying it.
ok cracker
talking like a Black person will not validate your opinion
Stop pretending to be black
Please just stop
i don't know if it's racist, but i don't think the writer, artist and editor know any black people
Then they'd be in good company here.
link it
>shoes on a line
holy shit
>link it
NTA, as I'm one of the alleged "concern trolls" (wasn't trolling, just spent too long a time arguing with some moron who's convinced that a modern comic could NEVER feature racism), but I'll post it:
You never proved it was racist. You just kept claiming it was racist because it was heavily using black culture mixed with Asgard.
>You never proved it was racist
That's because racism isn't an objective, measurable thing. There's no proving "anything" is racist--especially when the other party to the discuss is completely unwilling to consider the argument from the outset.
I toss my middle school shoes on a telephone wire, just to see if I could do it.
Also the shoes were old, and I just got a new pair
deadass I've never heard this before seems kinda cappy homies just sometimes are buttholes and throw your shoes up there to be dicks or if they take someones J's and they the wrong size they ain't gonna give back what they stole
I always heard it was a sign that a drug dealer is in town.
It probably varies between regions
My druggie friends say it marks a dealing spot
I always heard it was gang symbolism. Someone got jumped and they took their shoes and flung them on a wire and the victim couldn’t get them down. Extra salt on the wound.
Well, yeah, because it is. It's just such low grade racism that nobody particularly cares. Also involving a character nobody particularly cares about either.
>Is there outrage over this?
Nigs are freaking mad
https://twitter.com/JeanGen09181213/status/1537027187055935488
https://twitter.com/safree180/status/1537268946889474048
https://twitter.com/Fenrirtheicewo1/status/1536709231440707589
So handful of tweets not liking it. Wow. What real outrage.
>Mjolnir has graffiti on it
>graffiti isn't "street art" or murals. It's dark, dangerous, violent urban decay
This b***h
I'm obsessed with graffiti. It goes both way
If you look at the crime rate in New York during the 80-90's it did go down after the graffiti got cleaned up. Personally I like a wall slap with a tag now and then, better than a bear wall. I think the graffiti in the comic is excessive, and also disengenuine because none of it are tagger names probably people he knew or worked on the comic similar to graffiti on a Disney cartoon.
>a bear wall
Holy shit we need these graffiti would be over.
My bad
I actually deal with graffiti I'm my daily life. This is currently on my work neighbor fence. At my apartment gang member tagged the parking lot. I didn't take pictures but it's XIV and Xlll
So here's a fun graffiti story. Somebody spray painted Jabber jaw, then the park rangers painted over the whole thing white.
But the guy or whoever tagged Jabber Jaw did it again same spot, and I guess the park rangers liked just Jabber Jaw because it's still up to this day
Maybe because, as goofy as it is, it has legitimate aesthetic appeal. Unlike the illegible grafitti scribblings of your average street ape?
>Personally I like a wall slap with a tag now and then, better than a bear wall.
Then go buy your own fricking wall, criminal.
Hispanic detected
>Race, gender and sexuality swap of Thor isn't respectful. Comparing Asgard to South Central is even disrespectful to poc and Thor
>OP spent time digging through Twitter to find angry uncle toms
>if they don't like blaxxploitation, they must be SELF-HATING Black folk
homie one tweet is a fricking boomer library lady. have a nice day
>boomer library lady
sounds fricking based.
>IF YOU DON'T CONSOOM DISNEY, YOU AIN'T BLACK!
Calm down, Sleepy Joe. Go rise the gas price again
Thin, pastey, white fingers typed this.
>this post
seriously why is Cinemaphilemblr like this
SJW and wokeshit are rooted in racism. Nothing makes them happier than not having to hide it because CHUDS.
Even redditors pissed
https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoBestFriendsPlay/comments/vezkeg/everything_about_miles_morales_thor_has_me/
https://old.reddit.com/r/MilesMorales/comments/vdl092/lets_talk_about_what_ifmiles_became_thor/
Miles fans sucks
Funny, judging by the links that anon brought here, redditor milesgays seem a lot more chill and capable of criticizing media that has Miles in it.
Here they just seem to have a perpetual chip on their shoulder and call everyone racist.
I was wondering why Miles was trending on Twitter right now and it turned out to be because of a lot of tweets like these:
https://twitter.com/borgposting/status/1537818344992256001
https://twitter.com/marcbernardin/status/1538031492562948096
https://twitter.com/Assist_Ok/status/1537929990930542592
Looks like it wasn't a handful like
thought
A lot of it is stupid shit like “why does he look old, Miles is like 17” and just reacting to single panels without actually reading the story,or knowing context. So it’s entirely reactionary. Like at one point someone posted concept art of Thor and Storm’s daughter who’s black and this was apparently a bad thing. And just one of these tweets has plenty of engagement. The others were like 21 retweets or comments.
I do agree with certain complaints, like the hammer having graffiti is dumb, especially when it doesn’t have the wording about being worthy.
>Crying
I thought we were laughing?
I mean, if you want to look like an idiot instead of butthurt, be my guest.
Thanks. I'm gonna keep laughing. Hammer time !
>if you don't worship woke D*sney slop, YOU are le bad!
lol
Go ahead, cover up racism in media, bigot.
Yet you clicked on the thread and replied.
>N-N-NOO YOU C-C-CANT DISCUSS THIS BECAUSE..B B BECAUSE I UHHH I SAID SO THATS WHY
Why does the entertainment industry keep trying to force this whole "black viking" thing?
Remember when feudal Japan was a thing amongst black people?
no
I guess you weren't there.
There are no blacks during that period. Ancient Japanese ain't black.
Tell that to all the rap groups acting like dey wuz samuraiz n shit and the Afro Samurai fanboys.
Wu-tang is about the Chinese, not Japanese
You weren’t there. Nor were you in ancient Europe. There were blacks and Ebonics even back then. All over, everywhere, cause they were kangz
there was like one guy who hung out with Nobunaga
probaly reffering about yasuke, a black slave that got sold to Oda Nobunaga.
who kept him around as a pet and allowed him to wear samurai armor.
during his first real battle, he lost and nearly killed but got spared and sold as a slave again and died later.
blacks are now pretending that yasuke was Oda Nobunaga's greatest warrior and close friend that was a great warrior (like that shitty netflix animated serie)
Yeah no frick off /misc/
You seem like a falseflagging /misc/er trying to make the "go leave" a meaningless insult
That's basically what happened. He lasted past his first fight though, and was spared because the Japanese treated him more like an animal than a person
The anon you're responding to is right. Learn your history.
>like that shitty netflix animated
The one with the big ass robot that has prototype written in English wasn't accurate?
All I'm saying is Nioh
seek some help
Wha u say white boi?
That's a cool picture of him. Great story.
Anyways it would be cool if at the very least what if Miles as a baby somehow ended up in Asgard. Or even as the same age Miles as a teen.
Unironically could you tell me the context or who this guy is? I been saving this for years and I really don't know anything about this.
Forget his name but he was an African man who was brought to Japan during the Sengoku era and ended up becoming a samurai. I believe he fought alongside Nobunaga
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasuke
> Yasuke fought alongside the Nobutada forces but was eventually captured.
>When Yasuke was presented to Akechi, the warlord allegedly said that the black man was an animal as well as not Japanese and should thus not be killed, but taken to the Christian church in Kyoto, the Nanbanji
kek
WE WUZ... animals n sheeit?
>and should thus not be killed, but taken to the Christian church in Kyoto, the Nanbanji
At least he understood christians are more humane than japs and so they treat black people with respect (unless they're heretic protties with a complex)
I remember Afro Samurai
Yeah but Ghost Dog was based.
It was based when the Boondocks did it too. For 3 seasons, at least.
~~*They*~~ will turn every part of white culture black, part as a 'frick you goy' and in part to make it seem as if blacks were always part of white historical culture, since they are flooding white countries with blacks.
>they are flooding white countries with blacks
Mark my words you haven't seen anything yet.
>Making him act like a generic black guy from some shitty 80s movie
Isn't this meant to be Miles? Why doesn't he act ANYTHING like Miles?
It’s a what if story where Miles is Thor.
If he doesn't look like or act like Miles in any way, then it is not a "What if story where Miles is Thor", it's just "What if Thor was a random black guy?".
this what if aren't about situations anymore because Marvel dont write stories anymore they are all what if someone was black or a woman because that is all their modern stories boil down to
>If he doesn't look like or act like Miles in any way, then it is not a "What if story where Miles is Thor", it's just "What if Thor was a random black guy?".
This
You could have done the whole story like Miles being a normal kid, and then finding out he's a reincarnation of Thor with his uncle being a reincarnation of Loki who already figured it out and was trying to stop Miles before he figured it out.
This is the real reason we keep saying this story is laughably racist, but the disingenuous shills in these threads always conveniently miss these posts...
>"What if Miles Morales was Thor?"
>"Well first of all Asgard would be a ghetto."
All we need is watermelon to be the new ambrosia and we've achieved peak stereotype
It's this but without any irony.
How is it a ghetto?
Black people live there.
Miles' dynamic with his uncle is intact in every one of these stories but you just want to complain about hom being black. Also Gwen is doing the same thing exact thing currently but you seem to be turning a blind eye to this.
So, that's the entirety of Miles' character? Having a dynamic with his uncle?
The connecting thematic tissue in these What Ifs is Miles playing other iconic Marvel characters, with his villainous uncles being the common aspect that ultimately makes all Miles' team up in the end to defeat their uncle
Very shakesperean, huh?
Miles uncle is how he got bit with a radioactive spider
The spider can be interchangeable with anything. This is how you get the multi-miles-verse
But, again--we're talking about Miles' character here. Not his power's origin.
This post
straight up ignores the criticism of
in favor of
>"Uhh... but Aaronoki is still there! Obviously it's Miles' character!"
Miles who is Wolverine wouldn’t act exactly the same way as Miles who is Thor or Miles who is the Hulk. That’s how these multiverse variants always work, dumbass. They have certain core characteristic that is the same, otherwise they’re different. One of the emphasized in this series is Miles’ relationship with his uncle and how it drives and motivates him to do shit or grow as a person. Like how Thor Miles trusts Unca Loki too much until he tries to steal the throne. Or how Unca Sabretooth is how Wolverine Miles breaks from his circle of violence by not killing him and embraces a new family in the form of the X-men, no longer being alone.
>Miles who is Wolverine wouldn’t act exactly the same way as Miles who is Thor or Miles who is the Hulk.
I didn't even mention those other stories, so you're really just completely side-stepping the criticism.
The criticism was that Miles doesn’t act or look like Miles, which is stupid because the entire fricking point is depicting Miles as if his origin and powers were that of another iconic Marvel character, and to explore that they’re using his shared common thread, his relationship to his uncle to reflect the differences in and ways Miles would turn out. Instead of a raging monster Hulk Miles is haunted by guilt. Thor Miles is too trusting and doubts himself and his worth until he has to confront his deceptive uncle. Sniktbub Miles is a loner that leaves him weak because he mistook his father’s behavior and has to learn to embrace family and help from others to survive, culminating in finding a new one in the X-men. They’re all interesting reflections of Miles and what differences there are compared to the original Marvel characters whose avatar he uses in these stories.
>The criticism was that Miles doesn’t act or look like Miles, which is stupid because the entire fricking point is depicting Miles as if his origin and powers were that of another iconic Marvel character
Yup. That wouldn't change his core personality. You realize that's the whole point of these "What-If" stories, right? To see a character's personality used in the context of a different character's setting/powers?
Miles has no consistent character shown here. This is extremely pathetic of you to defend such empty writing.
>You realize that's the whole point of these "What-If" stories, right?
No, what if stories exist to do weird shit and one of the most common aspects of them is that the hero just about always acts way out of character in them compared to the original version to get some kind of weird, tacked on closure. Like Matt abandoning his life and living happily ever after if Elektra lived.
Still doesn't square the fact that this thread wasn't about Miles' other "What-If" stories. It's about how laughably racist this one is, in how it just uses stereotypes to prop up Miles' lack of a character.
He doesn't even act like Thor, he acts like "miscellaneous, jive black guy."
>It's about how laughably racist this one is, in how it just uses stereotypes to prop up Miles' lack of a character
It doesn’t do that. It’s doing a fun Asgard meets modern Brooklyn mash up. And again, the point isn’t to be exactly like Thor, he’s intentionally depicted as the opposite of classic Thor in the story to reflect how if Thor was Miles he would act very differently and have different type of dynamic with Loki, who has this mischievous traitor side, but also shows underlying compassion and love towards his nephew.
>It doesn’t do that.
Did you skip past the never-ending rap references of this Miles' character? The first two fricking pages are narrated in rap. Why?
Because it's a "black story."
So any time rap or hip hop is used it’s racist? For someone concerned about racism you see, awfully eager to say black people cannot be associated with rap at all. The story is clearly tongue in cheek, you pearl clutcher.
If you think the story wasn’t good, fine. But at least make a concrete criticism why the story didn’t work then. Most criticism here has only been “LOOK AT THIS, BLACK PEOPLE AND RAP REFERENCE?!”or “IT’S RACIST TO DO A WHAT IF LIKE THIS BECAUSE MILES IS BLACK”
Yasuke is a respected and increasingly popular historical figure in Japan who has appeared in multiple video games and anime and manga.
>Yasuke is a respected and increasingly popular historical figure
False
>So any time rap or hip hop is used it’s racist?
Not the guy you're responding to but no, that isn't it. It's not just the one thing, but everything in combination.
Look, you can show a black character eating fried chicken and that's fine. People eat fried chicken. It's delicious! But if you also have that black character in "da hood" and he has a "grill" and rap is playing and he's doing hip-hop dance moves and he drinks a forty and he drinks purple drink and he's doing drugs and he's dealing drugs and he's "spitting mad rhymes" and he "gets jiggy with it" and he's eating watermelon and there's graffiti all over the place and he speaks in thick ebonics and he robs a Korean convenience store and he rapes a white girl and he has baby mamas in every area code and his daddy went out for smokes but never came back, well, the combination is a wee bit racially insensitive. Your character is basically just Black Stereotypes Man.
It's over the top that there'd be graffiti on Black Thor's hammer. It's offensive that the moment Asgard has black people, there's suddenly a ghetto for them to live in, like they can't live in nice homes and must live in squalor even when in godland.
Heck, even Black Thor itself is a bit of a stereotype since black superheroes with lightning powers are so common it's a joke. Again, that alone isn't racist, but when you add it up with everything else it's just a bit much. Not sure why I spoilered this but there you go.
It really isn't.
more ketamine, you must do
>It's offensive that the moment Asgard has black people, there's suddenly a ghetto for them to live in, like they can't live in nice homes and must live in squalor even when in godland.
But the point is that this is modern day Brooklyn if it was Asgard. Not “it has to be a hood because blacks.” Nothing about the comic is depicting them living in squalor.
>It's offensive that the moment Asgard has black people, there's suddenly a ghetto for them to live in, like they can't live in nice homes and must live in squalor even when in godland
Struggle defines the black experience and forms the bedrock for solidarity. It would actually be more offensive to show them living in mansions or something since it would come off as glorification of race traitors.
>It would actually be more offensive to show them living in mansions or something since it would come off as glorification of race traitors.
Nah, blacks like it as long as it's only black people in power and they aren't living in a white man's mansion but a black man's mansion
There are no bad storiesonly bad writers. I'm not saying it couldn't be fun, I'm saying I read it and it wasn't fun. The world doesn't feel real to me.
This it needs a couple dozen murders in broad daylight if you really want a black vibe.
I'd read the shit out of black viking gang bangers doing drive-by on goat chariots.
>Miles doesn't act like Miles
>Asgard is a NY ghetto
>"Miles" Thor speaks in rap so bad a white person is the only possible person who could've written it"
>"It's not racist, Miles just doesn't act like Miles because he's Thor here! Asgardian Ghetto is fun!"
Why does this have to be Miles's story? Why is it that if Miles is Thor, Asgard resembles New York?
Because this is written by someone who would probably refer to a black person as an "urban american" and claim they have nothing but respect for them from atop their higher income high rise.
>To see a character's personality used in the context of a different character's setting/powers?
According to who? Even stan lee never saya this
*says
>They have certain core characteristic that is the same
Which is what? We've yet to see a consistent personality trait out of this bland character.
>Miles who is Wolverine wouldn’t act exactly the same way as Miles who is Thor or Miles who is the Hulk.
Of course, then he's adopting traits from different characters
You fricking disingenuous twat
They’re literally nothing like the base characters. Hulk Miles isn’t an uncontrollable rage monster apart. Thor Miles isn’t an arrogant dude to who needs to learn humility. Did you even read the comics you dumb frick?
Christ the stench of a shill is just palpable
Treating a casual conversation like it's a courtroom case, assuming everyone you're speaking to is pursuing an agenda (obvious projection), wary over the general "outlook" things have
have a nice day
>it’s a what-if story where a character with no defined personality after 10 years of shilling if Thor
Alright then
because once you take out his identity of being black spider-man then he has no personality
Because Miles doesn't have a personality.
Most black people don't.
Miles can be anyone because Miles is no one.
writers literally couldn't care less about morales' original personality.
The thing about Miles is, nobody can even muster up hatred for the character. You'd need something *to* hate but for Miles there is no there, there. He just exists as a mediocre tertiary option, the kid even has his own movie but people are there for Classic Spidey not New-Coke Miles, or even Spider-Gwen over him. Again, nobody hates him, its just that he is nobody's go-to choice when wanting to watch or read about a Spider-person when there are dozens of better options. Even the writers don't know what to do with him.
This.
Milesgays love to paint people who dislike Miles as "seething", but in reality it's just exasperation.
I mean, it's not a shocker. Cape comics have been rearranging deck chairs on the titanic for 20 years now and haveshit like batman-joker and hulk-thor vs thor-hulk. Black Thor in Ghettogard, introduced with his own shitty rap? Frick it, toss it on.
They're clearly not interested in telling any stories, may as well make a weak attempt at scoring woke points while waiting for the disney checks to arrive.
>introduced with his own shitty rap?
I actually don't understand that part. Who is he rapping to, the ice giants he's beating the shit out of?
Reminder that this was written by a Mexican israelite from Houston.
I never understood the point of this "blacks weren't just there but were inportant figures in euro history" thing. Like how BBC medias (pun not included) keeps forcing black brits in their supposed historical works.
Like what's the point?
>Europeans were always black, so when they invaded Africa they were simply commiting black on black crime and genocide
For virtually all of history they were just kind of there. Their violent tendencies didn't allow for them to cooperate in large enough groups to accomplish anything like a writing system to record their histories of cannibalizing each other. This makes racial differences apparent which in turn makes them feel inferior and that's offensive. And when they get offended they get violent. Black people have no history before Europeans got involved. The only option then is to insert them into European history so that they don't eat us. Yes this is incredibly offensive to everyone else but we're not going to cook anybody on a tire fire about it.
>Their violent tendencies didn't allow for them to cooperate in large enough groups to accomplish anything like a writing system to record their histories of cannibalizing each other.
Mali and Sudan did well enough before the muslim curse put them in drug addictions
Did they have the wheel?
The wheel is an object for slaves used to carry their own money to a bank to benefit israelites and anglos.
Wheelcucks needs the rope
The reason they're not as advanced is because African weather is unpredictable. You can't make a civilization if you never know when a powerful storm or flood is gonna wreck everything.
>The reason they're not as advanced is because African weather is unpredictable.
kek
Kush(Ancient Ethiopia) was a peer of ancient Egypt was never conquered by the latter.
So what do you think? 10k sales (To comic shops), or 5k sales (To comic shops)?
>afrofuturism
>Ghettofuturism
Reminder that they would still be small tribes living in mudhuts and cannibalizing each other with no concept of time if the god damned ~~*Portuguese*~~ just left them alone.
Reminder than in most of Africa today, they're still living in mud huts and eating each other.
>Reminder that they would still be small tribes living in mudhuts and cannibalizing each other with no concept of time if the god damned ~~*Portuguese*~~ just left them alone.
Well it's interesting how Zulu empire started when brits were starting their african colonization, if they gave them 100 years maybe the whole SS Africa would have had a king
do you have an image of black loki?
>my father
nothing about this makes sense
How does it not make sense?
NTA but it's kinda weird to have him be legitimately born to Odin, because it makes it less Miles and more "Black guy also called Miles" I would have expected something like "normal" Miles Morales finds and becomes worthy of Mjolnir before he can get bit by the spider
Black people don't have fathers.
They generate spontaneously?
Odin went out to buy a pack of cigs
As a black man I like it.
Naturally, that kind of fantasy is uncommon even in fiction.
Oh loki...
WORD! LET'S BOUNCE!
>wouldn't be god of mischief if I couldn't prowl my way into a room
Is this supposed to be a wink wink nudge nudge thing? Who the frick uses prowl like that?
Tbf, this was written by a white guy who desperately wishes he were black.
The writer is a mexijew, you liars
>Mexico City
He's white.
His name is Yehudi Mercado
See
>israelite Merchant
KEK
lel whitexican as frick
Toda la soja del D.F.! Angra Mexjew!
pic related
i also read that shoes can indicate gang territory, regardless of what it represents it doesnt change the fact they put in there as "black decoration"
Pic Related is him acting silly with what the OP is saying, he isn't one of those self hating brown mexican that call themselves whites because in all his bios he says Proud Mexijew.
He is lightskinned, but not white.
Maybe white in spain or Italy, but not in the US census
>Maybe white in spain or Italy, but not in the US census
Latinos are being considered white in America, so I'm not quite so sure about that...
Latinos are allowed to identify as white by the federal government. Not at all the same thing.
litterally what did he mean by this?
I don't give a shit about the etnicity of the writer, the issue was subpar bordering on pathetic because of the "how do you do fellow kids", that shit ain't got to do with race.
A black writer could've put this out and it would've been as bad. Sure the wigger posturing makes it a little funnier, but let us not forget that Marvel pandering to perpetually angry folks on twatter who do NOT buy comics is what got us into a position where only black people can write black characters, only Mexicans can write Mexicans and only gays can write gays (or at least you shouldn't ask any write writer before you've gone through all the "better" alternatives). Hudlin's Black Panther isn't less bad because he's a black going all we wuz kangs, in fact it's worse for it.
White, black, asian, israelite, Hispanic, he's still an out of touch idiot.
...he is white, though. what're you on about?
Not him but the argument on "who is or isn't white" has always been weird. It's like you are only white unless we have to prove something to black people. Then you are israeli, hispanic or something else.
>Not him but the argument on "who is or isn't white" has always been weird
It's bullshit based on non-objective relativity. I am as white as a ghost, yet some morons who still think it's the 20th Century on here wouldn't consider me white for my Irish ancestry.
Honestly, it's a win-win for me. I am white, yet I am also not white? Neat!
Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it weird. 100 years ago "white" meant Anglo and it slowly grew to incorporate light skinned European peoples who willfully assimilated into American culture.
Jews and Hispanics are not white.
That image is just sad.
Man this fricking book really broke your brain you keep making this thread over and over
>le "laughing is achshully crying" meme
biggest SJW cope in years.
...What do cruelly treated bear-cubs have to do with your shitty city? Are black people dragging around your children by chained collars?
That's pretty cucked, if so.
>It wasn't shitty before Black folk got here.
You weren't even fricking alive before "Black folk" got there, you fricking moron. You have absolutely no way of knowing that.
Yeah, and I'm sure it was a perfect utopia because the buildings didn't happen to have little drawings sprayed onto them.
If you live in a big city, chances are it was fricked over by the Irish and the Italians long before black people could do anything substantial.
>Yeah, and I'm sure it was a perfect utopia because the buildings didn't happen to have Black folk
Yes.
>won't even say the city he's living in, because he knows my point about the Irish and the Italians are right
so translucent.
Maybe It's more the way they came to America.
Who was the first Black person in America anon?
Christopher Columbus?
homie didn't even know what America existed
Black people weren't allowed to assimilate, you disingenuous homosexual.
If you weren't a drooling moron you would have learned that in school, and wouldn't need to look it up.
Is this supposed to be a gotcha? That the first black guy "totally wasn't a slave," or something?
You're just backpedaling into some new subject because I poked your uninformed moronation full of holes.
That the first black guy had black indentured servants and brought a lawsuit that literally institutionalized hereditary slavery in the colonies?
Yeah that's a gotchya.
So, that magically erases the fact that black people--as a whole--weren't allowed to assimilate? Your whataboutism has no bearing on the utterly idiotic claim you earlier made.
>So, that magically erases the fact that black people--as a whole--weren't allowed to assimilate
Because of other black people. Yes. What it doesn't erase is that thet STILL refuse to assimilate after 150+ years of being free.
>Because of other black people.
Black people created Jim Crow and Redlining?
Black people created the circumstances for every bit of 'mistreatment' and racism they have ever experienced, in more ways than one. Correct.
Why are you making up fanfiction of black people.
A better question is "why did you even respond to that since its entirely, provably wrong". Its like if I said "Its a white kids fault for being born into privilege" since nothing about that sentence is correct.
>Black folk coping and seething
BTFOing yourselves for 400+ years.
Do white people realise how low the bar is fornotbeing called racist, sexist or a nazi? Like literally just don't be those things
Nixon
They being able to own slaves isn't the same as being able to internalize.
Look at injuns, they could buy black slaves but if you asked a whitey to make one of them citzen they would say "too redskinned" and killed him.
>black super
>lightning powers
Again? Don't we have enough of these already?
tl;dr
take medications or have a nice day.
Not an argument
>What more could we possibly do, other than go extinct?
Give an equal segregation.
Blacks hates how their men worship white c**ts as much as white men hates it, it's a worship rooted in white supremacy and the wish to eradicate blackness as it happened in Brazil.
Also make an equal segregation works this time, no more "I'm so angry I will go in black people only city to shot their workers" just "my place, your place"
Separate but equal was never going to work, anon. It requires equality of power between the two groups, and that didn't exist.
White people vs black people
White being someone of a higher status
Black being lower
That's how a black person can act white or vice versa a white person can act black.
...That's not a sensical response to my post. Reply to the wrong guy?
I'm going to lie and say yes, because now I feel dumb.
>Urban fantasy bad because.... it just is ok!?!
Why?
I love urban fantasy, but Asgard being set in Brooklyn breaks my suspension of beliefs.
Wouldn't they be native American vikings? Or just vikings? Or pilgrim vikings? Or did no one enter Brooklyn until after the slaves were free?
You’re overthinking it.
No this is thinking it, Asgard being in america could make sense as "vinland made asgardians proud" at least.
The only way for this to make sense is that Brooklyn used to be Vinland and then the black slaves arrived and interbreed wirh the people creating a norse black race
The fact that an ignorant, non-black artist is depicting a fricking ghetto as some sort of utopia is the problem you moron
Urban and Fantasy are diametrically opposed, I honestly rather Afro futurism than this shit. No wonder actual Africans laugh at African Americans holy shit
why do people like miles at all? he's basically just "spiderman again but black" what's the appeal?
>How about American whites write a big check and send all of your asses back to Africa? I would be behind a plan that spent my tax dollars to repatriate willing blacks, build a reasonable amount of infrastructure and provide aid for a reasonable amount of time, with the understanding that the money faucet will be turned off eventually.
Ew no.
They already tried that shit with Liberia, it's a shithole.
No one wants to go to Africa, America is fine to live in
But America is filled with racists, how is it not a shithole?
Everywhere is filled with racists, you moron.
Then why do I only hear about American and white racists in the media?
Because the rest of the world never stopped seething about America's existence after we formed. And, average Americans thinks we're the center of the universe, so they only focus on the bad things we do.
>Then why do I only hear about American and white racists in the media?
You don't hear about chinks being racist shits?
It's being shilled everywhere in national tv, hell even when those israelites dressed in blackface for Purim
Just send the blacks and mexicans back and there won't be.
>No one wants to go to Africa, America is fine to live in
And why's that?
Burgers are delicious
They sure are, sambo. And you can buy them with your ebt card!
Why did I have to serve 3 days for insulting black people but this thread can have anons saying Black person unironically and nothing happens to it?
I regularly catch bans for hatefacts and gamer words.
Don't worry, this thread will disappear soon and we'll all get bans. The mod just passed out after dialating his neovegana. It had been closing up the last few days, but today was the first day that the suture scars weren't too inflamed. Plus, the ever-present stream of pus acts as a lubricant.
Anyway, the mod was dilating his neovegana and he caught glimpse of a child outside the window with no adult present and the tiny little root stub of what's left of his penis contracted so hard it caused the dilator to go to deep and hit a nerve cluster and...
Anyway, this thread will surely disappear once the mod's had enough time to weep himself back to consciousness and post something about JK Rowling on Twitter.
>How about American whites write a big check and send all of your asses back to Africa?
It would be a drop in the bucket compared the costs of social welfare for them.
That's one of many reasons why it will never be allowed. The products of white labor belong to everyone except whites. Just as having access to whites and white cultures is a basic human right, unless you're white.
>Just as having access to whites and white cultures
KEK
Yet, white people have been consistently bumming off black culture since the 1920s.
Jews*
Oh, it's always the israelites once the truth about white people gets inconvenient, eh?
You people must love israelites; your own personal scapegoat for every problem that ever arises.
No the truth is israelites have been manipulating and enslaving you for hundreds of years and you blame it all on white people because you're unironically racist and think everyone with lighter skin than you is the same.
If that can make you feel better blacks are starting to hate israelites as much as whites and so other caucasians because they are white skinned or at least pale.
That's why the term caucasian become a thing, because it was supposed to mean "you light skinned devils!" that could have been israelites, arabs and chineses alike
>caucasian
The word exists to keep israelites out.
No, caucasian applies to all the race that shares the caucasoid features.
Jews as a semitic race are caucasian.
A non caucasian semite is a dravidian or sub saharan black.
>Jews as a semitic race are caucasian
I really do hope you're just trying to bait because the alternative is almost beyond belief.
>Lincoln County
Oh no next it will be our MLK Blvds!
The overwhelming majority of all races marry within their own race.
>I really do hope you're just trying to bait because the alternative is almost beyond belief.
An afrasian without caucasianoid genes is just a Neanderthal
You hate the Whites so much that you're willingly to deny israelites were highly responsible of the Slave Trade, not to mention it's them to give you "representation" against "muh waycist wipipo". Marvel, DC, Disney+, Netflix, all the woke corporations are all israeli. You just hate Whites and frankly you disgust me so much. You should sftu instead of crying "Waycism fro wipipo"
>You hate the Whites so much that you're willingly to deny israelites were highly responsible of the Slave Trade,
Again man, blacks are starting to realize israelites are as guilty of racism as whites, that's why the term light skin privilege was invented.
Weren't you there when blacks got fricking pissed at Israel antiblack policy?
> not to mention it's them to give you "representation" against "muh waycist wipipo". Marvel, DC, Disney+, Netflix, all the woke corporations are all israeli. You just hate Whites and frankly you disgust me so much. You should sftu instead of crying "Waycism fro wipipo"
You can hate white and israelites too. It's not that hating one means the other is justified.
White and israelites are both two parassitic and racist world scums
I like this guy.
>Whites are forced to bow
Shut up goyim, I mean cattle and go back to sucking israeli toes.
Stfu israelite, you're worthless
>black culture?
WE
swing dancing, blues, jazz, rock n roll, rap
white people just can't stop copying black people since the last 20s.
But, no, white people can't appreciate good music--it's the israelites who made them hang out and have fun in Harlem night clubs!
It was israelites hanging out in Black person clubs because they weren't welcome in white establishments.
>revisionism
You realize there's footage of whitest of white people from the 30s swing dancing, right? And enjoying blues and jazz, decades later rock n roll and rap...
You're arguing against documented history, pal.
>DA JOOS
aren't a good enough excuse this time.
First off, everything you just listed originated in white culture. No black in Africa ever wrote a song or made a musical instrument more complex than a drum before meeting other cultures. And just like "black cuisine" which consists of deep fried gizzards and pigs feet, blacks took white music and degraded it and made it into a populist art form.
Now, to be honest, this is honestly probably the coolest thing blacks ever did. Aside from wondering what the music of the big band era might have evolved into if not for the sudden and eventually dominating presence of black influence in popular music, I think we can all agree that Jazz, rock, the blues, etc. are legitimate artistic expressions. And about the only part of black culture I've ever witnessed that addressed any ideas of transcendence.
But that's literally the ONLY thing I ever hear about when it comes to black contributions to culture other than the aforementioned cholesterol cuisine. Where are the great works of literature(that DON'T revolve around some kind of civil rights remembrance or racial grievance), painting(that DON'T resembled moronic postmodern scribblings), cinema(see literature)? Where is any proof that blacks can sustain the culture that some of them are able to ape and imitate in a degraded fashion?
Okay, so you took transcendent, complex music and you degraded it, infused it with ass-twerking jungle beats and fed it back to the culture from where it was spawned. White music. With white instruments. Inspired by white musical theory. Whoop de shit.
Rap is pure 100% bullshit. You can fricking have it. The greatest rappers will all time will always be those three israeli kids from Brooklyn.
Finally, mankind's greatest pianist was a black dude. Bet you never even heard of him.
>Where is any proof that blacks can sustain the culture that some of them are able to ape and imitate in a degraded fashion?
Kenyan dresses and fetish for animals got well estabilished in the Kenya society
What? What was that about schools and hospitals and power plants and garbage collection and infrastructure? Why are you talking about dresses and animal fricking?
>swing dancing, blues, jazz, rock n roll, rap
that's not culture, that's garbage
That's culture, tastelet
The black guys I work with a couple of years ago were joking about a crackhead that had sat on someone's porch and chewed off all of his own toes that weekend. Does that count?
Guess who gets to pay for his disability checks? It ain't DaShawn or any of his friends.
>Guess who gets to pay for his disability checks?
You, and the black guys you work with too?
No.
Drugs did a number to latinos and blacks, I remember when theg used to be working force
It's a new world order and you aren't a part of it
Klaus will eat the bugs and Black folk will continue to own nothing and be Black folk.
That's what you think because the alpha community has rejected the notion of modern day capitalism and are taking what they want. Smash and grabs are nothing short of the future where the strong take and the weak pay
Until white folks get tired of it. Tolerance only makes us appear weak. Unfortunately there's no middle ground between "okay cool it buddy" and "BLUT UND EIRE".
You will do nothing and accept it. Your institutions have replaced all your monuments with symbols of power, your women have submitted themselves to alpha men, your businesses take losses to appease this contigent and while you day you can move away or fight back, laws, grants, and now numbers are no longer on your side. Your time is up and a new dark age will begin
I believe the phrase is "frick around and find out". Black folk burning down their own neighborhood drugstores isn't fricking around so much as fricking themselves.
Keep telling yourself that. They are in your neighborhoods and yall ain't doing jack shit
Ironic how blacks on twitter simply wants to date black women and blackcels on this site just wants other races women.
Almost like inceldom makes you self racist
who is this for? i feel this pisses off both the usual crowd who get angry at this sort of stuff but also the pro diversity/social justice types because the execution is so poor
>who is this for? i feel this pisses off both the usual crowd who get angry at this sort of stuff but also the pro diversity/social justice types because the execution is so poor
The writer
Call me when "What if Miles Morales wasn't a dogshit character" will be out
You're more likely to see the heat death of the universe.
Just read the DnD issue of Champions
woah they can't make him white
it's hilarious that marvel/disney doesn't even realise that they are still using the trope of blacks stealing/taking over existing characters identity or history.
it's even funnier that they are using miles for it, because they realy want to push him even though the vast majority of readers don't like miles or give a shit about him.
one of bendis black oc donut steal characters (because he has a black fetish)
>racist Spider-Man
I see Slott couldn't use Raimi's Spider-Man so instead he just referenced him.
lel, you ape out on Cinemaphile because you can't take a punch IRL.
Do yu want to meet up and test your theory?
No need, you already caught your L by being a Cinemaphile tough boy. If you want to try for round 2, try talking like that in real life and we'll see how long you last. You'll make decent money if you live stream it!
You just pussied out to an internet tough guy, that L is all yours.
You unironically challenged me to an IRL fight. You lost as soon as you did that, and you lost twice for thinking I'd agree. What do you think I'd say "ok, here's my dox"? No, the correct answer is to point and laugh at the internet tough guy.
I challenged you to punch me. You don't even have the balls.
Lol, where should we host the fight, Tonkasaw?
You don't have the machismo for a free shot and now you want to fight me? Come on man just put your tail between your legs and call it a day.
You say
>I challenged you to punch me. You don't even have the balls.
I say
>where should we host the fight
Now you say
>N-no! You don't actually want to fight me! J-just run away!
Do you like being humiliated?
At your house.
Oh sure! Here's my dox, my social security number, my dog's name, and the last 4 digits of my credit card: https://files.catbox.moe/atoa64.jpg
Yeah that's what I thought tough guy.
The reflection is me laughing at you? I already know I'm laughing at you, so what's with the mirror?
I'd explain it to you but I don't want you to get hurt.
The explanation is "yes, its my reflection of me laughing at you" because it literally can not be anything else. Anyway, why did this start? I mocked you for acting like an internet tough guy, and then I mocked you for b***hing out the second I challenged you?
This is what I'm talking about, I didn't explain it and you're still hurt. I don't want to cause any more damage.
>Maybe if I say he's upset, h-he'll leave me alone!
I don't want you to leave me alone though.
What you want is irrelevant. I'm just going to mock you until I'm bored. Its funny how you can whine about black people on Cinemaphile, but the second someone makes fun of you, you just get buck broken.
Very ironic post, good one.
>I don't want you to leave me alone though.
You don't want to be alone. Here anon, I'll join in and give you some company.
I just wanted anon to keep BTFOing himself honestly. You can frick off.
Nah I'll stick around.
Lmao, you look like you found someone else to make fun of you, too. Maybe you should go back to making fun of black people; I'm sure that'll win you some friends.
Like Cope and Seethe Crackers!
>By Odin's fade
I refuse to believe that this is an actual panel. There is no way someone looks at that line and thinks "Wow, black people will love this"
Black people aren't a significant demographic in comics.
BY ODINS FADE
Jesus Christ I’m going to read the whole comic. FR FR no cap.
Hey they even made Frost Giants black too
Where’s the one with short black hair
I liked him, he looked chill
Are they blue? Frick man, you guys said it was racist, but I didn't think it was THIS racist.
Remember, even the fricking AI knows
I mean to an A.I humanity itself is a plague
Ai knows what?
You know what? I don't even mind this, it's a fine idea and the execution is better than I expected. But there's zero reason for it to be Miles Morales. It feels really reductive and tokenizing in a way that the character has even railed against in-universe back when he was still Ultimate Spider-Man.
Just make Thor Black, he doesn't need to also be another character. Or if he really DOES, use Luke Cage, who's already deep in the Blaxploitation vibes in a way Miles isn't and shouldn't be.
its a What If book
You’re literally only crying because Miles is black. What ifs have done shit like this before. What if Barbara Ketch had been Ghosr Rider, what if Punisher had become Captain America, what if Dr. Doom had become Sorcerer Supreme, what if Rogue had become Thor, what if Tony Stark was Sorcerer Supreme, etc. etc.
For fricks sake, Gwen Stacy is literally having the same goddamn idea done in her own book which has Gwen be Thor, Iron Gwen, Captain America. Where’s the major butthurt about that comic? The constant threads whining about that? Nowhere, because she’s white. Meanwhile people keep crying about hip hop Thor.
NuGwen sucks
Spider-Gwen IS trash and her book is every bit as soulless as this garbage. Coomers just scare everyone away.
So if you don't like it, start jerking off or beg Marvel to genderswap, you'll enjoy this seeing the exact same cancer lording over Spider-Gwen threads in no time if it works.
>Punisher becomes Captain America
Interesting concept because Punisher is a psycho mass murdering vigilante given the title of a WWII paragon.
>Dr. Doom becomes Sorcerer Supreme
Interesting concept because such a title is given to a narcissistic sociopath + science genius as well as magician prodigy. Same with Stark.
Miles is such a blank slate, may as well just have "what if my self-insert was the famous hero" for a story. There's nothing interesting about giving him an identity of other heroes, no reason to think "wow, that's cool. I want to read it to see how that turns out", it's not intriguing or engaging. You know exactly how it's gonna turn out.
Miles's entire personality is that he's black, which is why Miles Thor turned out the way it did.
>There's nothing interesting about giving him an identity of other heroes
Except these stories are interesting because of how different the Miles version of the character ends up being. And it’s always tied to his family and especially his relationship with his uncle. Family and how it impacts Miles’ life is a major reoccurring theme.
But it's not interesting. It's just more of the same shit as classic boring-ass Miles, but stealing from a different hero and adding a dash of "how do you do fellow kids"
Maybe read them before saying such embarrassingly inaccurate bs.
And here goes
>y-you didn't read them
I swear, milesgays will eat up any shit that's on their plate as long as it has their favorite character drawn on it.
In other words, the same story but Miles Morales is Black Thor and not Black Spider-Man.
A more interesting What If would remove the family element from Miles entirely and see how he fairs. Probably not so well but then again most What Ifs don't end that great for the hero.
Yeah, and half of those are stupid too. Just like "X kills the Marvel Universe" shit, or many other things that just were bad. It's not like all those stories all received universal praise by all until Miles fricked up some imaginary decades long hot streak "What if/Elseworld's" stories had because racism
>Yeah, and half of those are stupid too.
They aren't. You didn't read those and just said they're stupid so you can win an argument with that shill you responded to who thinks a subpar Miles as Thor comic was in any way comparable to the other What Ifs.
>All what ifs and elseworlds are good now.
OK then.
I'm not responsible for your illiteracy
Not that anon, but the problem with your argument:
>What if Barbara Ketch had been Ghosr Rider,
She was Dan Ketch's sister and her death was part of the reason Dan became Ghost Rider. A story like this would make sense because it asks what if Dan got killed and Barbara ended up becoming Ghost Rider instead.
>What if Punisher had become Captain America,
The question and drama here is "can a bloodthirsty vigilante find it in himself to be worthy of the mantle of Captain America or will he fall further?" It also works off an established point--what if Captain America was horribly injured instead of simply badly injured after the events of Captain America #212?
>what if Dr. Doom had become Sorcerer Supreme,
It asks what happens if a villain who has a history of sorcery, to the point where he could've become a candidate for Sorcerer Supreme, got that much power, and how does it affect things. Does he get his mom out of hell? Does he still fight the Fantastic Four? What happens to Doctor Strange? The idea also works off a possible alt point, where instead of seeking monks to get armor and mask, he decided to go find the Ancient One instead.
>what if Rogue had become Thor,
Which starts on a divergent point of the fight in Avengers Annual #10, so it's also believable. That was the time she had absorbed Carol Danvers' powers, so the question is what would've happened if she had absorbed Thor's powers during the fight and killed him in the process.
>what if Tony Stark was Sorcerer Supreme,
This works with two ideas:
-A drunk Tony causes the accident that wrecks Stephen's hands, so Tony's burdened with guilt and has another motivation, and Stephen gradually becomes resentful
-Tony typically doesn't care for magic in the main universe. The story doesn't go into his change of mind much but this could've been a good one to interest people.
Each of these work with an established story and work in a different direction and shows what happens to events and situations when one thing changes.
The only Miles What If that worked was the Hulk one because it stuck to changing just Miles, and then changing situations around. The others don't work because they proceeded to change other characters (Ganke and Tiana Toomes) without explanation, and the Thor one falls apart because there's no explanation why Miles, Ganke, Tiana, and others are Asgardians.
>The others don't work because they proceeded to change other characters (Ganke and Tiana Toomes) without explanation, and the Thor one falls apart because there's no explanation why Miles, Ganke, Tiana, and others are Asgardians.
This is a very narrow minded approach to What if stories. Especially in modern Multiverse approach that allows more creative freedom instead of doing lazy just do x instead of y in story z. And these stories all are building to a larger story where the Mileses have to team up together rather than be one and done. The series functions differently and that’s why it works better than most what if stories that are incredibly lazy.
>modern Multiverse approach
Yikes.
>This is a very narrow minded approach to What if stories. Especially in modern Multiverse approach that allows more creative freedom instead of doing lazy just do x instead of y in story z. And these stories all are building to a larger story where the Mileses have to team up together rather than be one and done. The series functions differently and that’s why it works better than most what if stories that are incredibly lazy.
No it doesn't. If anything you're making the Miles What If story sound incredibly lazy by your description. The old What Ifs gave thought to something changing, and then what would be the consequence of that change.
Hell, it's not even hard to do the Miles as Thor comic. There's like several different explanations to work with, and this comic didn't even bother to give an explanation.
We all know why. The spider Gwen shit is so forced at this point but yeah, let’s be hush hush about all that.
Miles doesn't really have an identity or personality of his own. He's got a nice costume, but can't even get his own hero name; he's just "Spider-man".
Truthfully, they wanted to raceswap Thor without seeming racist, so they needed to attach a name to it. But Miles' backstory has nothing to do with this new comic and doesn't effect anything. It's not about an urban youth finding Mjolnir; he's still explicitly Odin's son and Asgard as a whole is just black urban New Yorkers now.
Ahmed's anxious nerd personality for Miles was interesting enough
>use Luke Cage
Soul
Here's some more "soul"
Miles’ ass is Thor from getting fricked by white tops daily
>"Now here comes the demolition, krraka!"
Was this written by the Trill League guy?
I have a bile fasincation with this comic. Anyone got a link?
>How about American whites write a big check and send all of your asses back to Africa?
american blacks would be genocided is they got shipped to africa. africans hate them more than anyone else.
Not my problem.
>american blacks would be genocided is they got shipped to africa.
Can we get a livestream of that? Pay per view?
That's good thinking it could pay for itself but I don't think TV executives would be too keen on you tossing out their pets.
There's a pretty decent documentary about African Americans migrating back to Africa.
I don't want to spoil it because so much of it is funny but suffice to say, it doesn't work out very well for a lot of them. Here's a funny bit if you don't want to watch a full 20 minutes. A good sample of what goes on.
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Starts at 7:43 if the timestamp doesn't work.
incredible. they really said "what if black thor was a hood rat" and played it straight.
>a one-issue story within a bigger run has an established character with his own identity adopt another character's identity
vs
>an entire book dedicated to how a character who leeches off another character's identity is leeching off other characters' identities
But yes, it must be because he's black.
this is too hood to be racist. the streets had graffiti everywhere but Odin's place didn't. if Milesthor is the only one acting like a dumb gangsta then it squares with how Thor was an butthole who needed to get humbled.
I still wanna frick Rio
Cultural appropriation, the hypocricy is insane
Dear 'Murikans. Would you stop appropriating Norse Mythology?
This was written by a White dude. Here is another page they wrote.
Again?
He is a MEXIJEW.
Stop calling white who ever does something shitty, he is a mexican israelite, that counts as latino and israeli.
Not white.
>MEXIJEW
We call them "Chicanos", guey.
>Chicanos
No no sweaty, chicanxs
He is a chicano but that's his identity like latino.
His ethnicity is mexican israeli.
Jews are white, hispanics are becoming pseudo-white by sheer force of population increase in the US.
>Jews are white
wrong.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/dna-from-biblical-canaanites-lives-modern-arabs-jews
Dude, I call israelites white by knowing they're a semitoid breed.
But like white latinos, armenians and north indians they're white.
They benefit from white privelege and can be antiblack racist too.
You're both wrong. Most israelites alive today are Ashkenazi, they are a predominantly Germanic people. Ethnic israelites, Mizrahi, are almost genetically indistinct from Arabs aside from the defects they've accumulated from inbreeding.
It readers like a stereotypical parody except it’s real. By Orin’s fade? Really?
>babby's first blacksploitation
It should exist at this point a Nordic version of Black Panther, with all the characters White, Blonde and Blue Eyed. All of them in Africa, since they like blackwashing a White God
Wakanda isn't the same as Asgard. White Wakanda would be Atlantis before it sunk. Wakanda is not the home of African Gods and Goddesses
Alright, I get what you say, but they're bastardizing actual White folklore, it should be fair to bastardize their fantasy created by Marvel israelites
>but they're bastardizing actual White folklore
Yeah that is Marvel's Thor in a nutshell. I mean where does the Warriors Three exist in the folklore? Where's the horse alien Beta Ray Bill? Marvel Thor was never an accurate depiction of Norse folklore.
Okay, that's fair, but now it has gone way too far
True
>Prowl my way into a room
Oh I get because he was prowler. It doesn't make me laugh but I get it.
>Loki is his uncle instead of his brother
How does that work exactly
>>Loki is his uncle instead of his brother
Like the actual myth lmao
Hold on fellas, Twitter absolutely hates this shit and says its racist
Does that mean we're supposed to actually like it?
>Does that mean we're supposed to actually like it?
No.
There are things that are hated both by libs and rights because they fail to appeal one of those group and so become something that no one wants.
For example, latinx is a term hated by libs because it's an attempt to erase a foreign language and rightoids hate it because it's pronouns shit
>latinx is a term hated by libs
No, the libs love it. It's just the Hispanics that hate it because it's moronic but the libs refuse to let it go because they're absolutely bound to the progressive identity politics. Some of them are even accusing Hispanics of transphobia because they refuse to use more inclusive language like latinx.
>No, the libs love it.
Wrong.
The scummest lib scum likes it, the libs that we could call "redpilled" consider latine a more proper and less white lib word.
Point is, both libs and rightoids hate the x word
Can comics go back to being outwardly racist because it's better than this shit.
>What if... Miles was gay homies in space.
Dr. Dre's biopic, I presume?
How does EVERY Miles thread get so many fricking posts
Because NOBODY likes this shit.
even the normies are seething at this shit lmao
I don't blame them. This is what I expect Ben Garrison to draw if it was announced that a black guy got cast as Thor
WE WUZ ASGARDIANS N SHIIIIIIIET!
As a black man this is probably the most racist shit marvel has done
Like as a black person would it be too hard to not have blacks be obnoxiously ghetto or say shit like fade or wear timbs even fricking fresh prince of Bel air could do this better
>behaves stereotyoically
>aaaaa what's with all these stereotypes
As a white man, we're ready for you to knock it the frick off at any time.
Frick off anon I don't act like this and I know plenty of blacks that don't it'd be like if I decided to make a white black panther solely based on redneck stereotypes or suburbs white stereotypes.
>I don't act like this and I know plenty of blacks that don't
Good for you but unfortunately everyone knows that most of you do. Racism isn't going away by defeating or ignoring stereotypes in fiction, that just makes it worse. It will go away when those stereotypes are defeated IRL and not before.
did you forget when the current eic wrote a bunch of "marvel manga" and used a japanese name
>Miles is such a shit character that they have to put him in What If..? scenarios to make people give shits about him, positive or negative
Miles is as good as the person who's writing him is. He has some good runs, it's just a shame that everyone has to essentially try to build off the world's blandest template Bendis left them.
Nick Lowe is credited as supervising editor on the What If Miles Morales comics, did he approve this?!
I'm struggling to understand this narration about Yggdrasil. Does it mean that it relocated to modern day Brooklyn, in which case Thor, being thousands of years old, should still be ethnically Northern European? Or is it saying it was there all along? Wouldn't he be like Native American in that case?
And even if Thor spontaneously did become an ethnic member of Brooklyn, why specifically Black? What if he became Italian or an Orthodox israelite instead?
It's all so tiresome.
Lol this homie
ayy looka dem rimz looka dem ramz
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frick Black folk kmao