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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Minus One.
    Godzilla 1954 over both though.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Godzilla 1998.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shin by a mile. Minus one is very predictable japanese revisionist hagiography.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean by this? Minus One pretty heavily critiques the Japanese mindset during WW2.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The protagonists arc is learning to not be such a coward and finally completete a kamikaze bombing run. The fact that there's a cop-out ejector seat does not negate the fact that what he's ultimately "making up for" is not committing heroic suicide during the war.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't get how this is your interpretation of the film when it's overwhelmingly pro-life with constant messages about how the youth should live on for the good of the nation, especially with the "kid."

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't see how you could miss it, given that the guy is surrounded by people who tell him he should be ashamed of himself for not doing his duty. There are a couple moments put in there to soften the message, but it couldn't be any clearer that what that guy needed to do to fix his emotional state was be willing to sacrifice for the greater good.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I don't see how you could miss it, given that the guy is surrounded by people who tell him he should be ashamed of himself for not doing his duty
              Which is deliberately framed as antagonistic or playing into "survivors guilt."

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay, how about the emphasis on how because Japan is caught in between two superpowers in their geopolitical struggle, her people have no choice but to rearm and defend themselves? You don't think that has any thematic relevance for the politics of modern-day Japan?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't get how you instantly interpret a desire for a nation to be independent from foreign powers and capable of defending itself as dogmatic loyalty and suicidal extremism.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Lol OK. In any case, Shin is a much more grounded meditation on the contemporary politics of Modern Japan, so I prefer it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shin Godzilla is a critique of modern bureaucracy concerning modern disasters while Minus One is a critique of post-war mentality. Both films address different points.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but Shin addressed its point much more effectively.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shin was gay as frick and Anno is a hack

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ive said this a dozen times

    If the 'American daughter of the president of the united states' is a character in your film and japanese is supposed to be her second language then she should be able to speak english. She was the worst thing in Shin Godzilla by MILES and would be a perfect film with another actress. She was TERRIBLE.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      TERRIBLE!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I have no idea why they made the character an American but then cast a Japanese actress who didn't even know English. Couldn't they at the very least cast a Japanese actress that does know English? I'm sure they exist.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ive said this a dozen times

        If the 'American daughter of the president of the united states' is a character in your film and japanese is supposed to be her second language then she should be able to speak english. She was the worst thing in Shin Godzilla by MILES and would be a perfect film with another actress. She was TERRIBLE.

        TERRIBLE!

        She's really bad

        She's not the presidents daughter, you fricking morons. I cant believe these are the people I have to debate about Minus 1 being Legendary inspired slop and Shin being horror inspired political kino.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's not the part people were complaining about. It's the fact that the character is supposed to be an American yet they cast a non-English speaker who really struggled with the lines.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I really like Shin but the American-born Japanese woman does hamper the experience.

          NTA but Shin addressed its point much more effectively.

          In a much more indirect mannerr.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly. It maintained the focus on the monster and wasn't obnoxiously on the nose.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The political themes of Minus One are Hollywood tier. Feel like you're just pro-rearmament, and you want to portray a movie advocating for that as something other than what it is.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Rereading your post and think I misinterpreted your meaning. If you are saying minus one is obnoxiously on the nose, I agree.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes that's what I was implying. Shin was better at blending its message into the narrative.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >focuses on the monster
              >appears like, 3 times in the film
              Ok moron

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Whenever the monster wasn't on screen, the monster was the topic of conversation. Godzilla was the entire atmosphere

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                More like the policies on how to adress it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes it was all centered on Godzilla and the threat he posed.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      She's really bad

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    '54 > shin >-1

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Best Godzilla was the one with P. Diddy on the soundtrack

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >everyone casually gaslight themselves into accepting "P.diddy" as a thing even though we'd been calling him "Puff Daddy" for more than a decade

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Both.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shin because Minus One had that shitty anime reddit ending.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Minus one because of plane kino.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Minus one. This one has more action and its less about the woes of bureaucrazy.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shin easily

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Neither. They’re both gay and moronic.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    shin

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NGL the Minus One firebreath doesn't look as cool but the first time he uses it and causes a nuclear blast was way more interesting than this one.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Minus one. Shin is not that fun to rewatch and all the fx shots are a wiener tease and to short

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Do you prefer boring office meetings or boring Im so sad I didnt kill myself in the war scenes?
    Um... I found the office stuff less grating than the constant woe is me stuff somehow.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Um... I found the office stuff less grating than the constant woe is me stuff somehow.
      Because your're autistic

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Minus one has to be the most overhyped garbage ever. Barely any Godzilla, Godzilla is semi moronic and animalistic, willing to chase the equivalent of a horse fly to the depths of the ocean to swat it for seemingly no reason, and a random feelgood revival insert that’s simply moronic.

    Shin was weird to watch as a commentary on how moronic bureaucracy is masked as a Godzilla film but it’s superior in every way, and ironically so is the depiction of Godzilla in that film. It’s not even remotely close.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I feel like I got scammed into thinking one had to do with the other. Turns out Shin Ultraman is the actual successor to Shin godzilla.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Have to agree.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Minus one has to be the most overhyped garbage ever. Barely any Godzilla, Godzilla is semi moronic and animalistic, willing to chase the equivalent of a horse fly to the depths of the ocean to swat it for seemingly no reason, and a random feelgood revival insert that’s simply moronic.
      Have to disagree, different Gojira intterpetations exist for a region, a more animilsitic approach is just as valid as any other

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm drunk so I'm not typin the brst but my point is that Gojiro is a metaphor for many different points and shuldn't be constrained by one.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’m sorry but a 400 foot monster getting distracted off course, all the way to the middle of the ocean, by the machine gun of a fricking Zero is indefensibly moronic and stupid child in a bathtub tier writing.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Frick off, a 20mm cannon will piss off anytihing.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Like I pissed off your mom when I left to buy cigarettes and never came back??

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            maybe not if the thing can tank seamines with its mouth

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Like I pissed off your mom when I left to buy cigarettes and never came back??

            Mature man

            maybe not if the thing can tank seamines with its mouth

            Just coolant instead

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just don't think minus one did anything uniquely or especially well. Like, sure, Godzilla isn't exactly where you go for a surprise story, but the plot is obvious in broad strokes and fine detail both from the very start and nobody really stands out as an actor, nor does the cinematography excite.
    Yes Shin has the same problem, but it's infinitely prettier and godawful engrish aside nobody is bad enough to notice. And any story that's not about "person is traumatised by bad thing and poorly acts out trauma" wins by default.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Minus One easily but both it and Shin are the best post-GMK Godzilla movies

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    minus one overall, but shin had the better godzilla design

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shin is the better Godzilla movie, but Minus One is the better film overall

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Incomprehensible take, respect

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shin. I haven't really enjoyed any Godzilla movie besides Shin tbh

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Minus One. Not only is it a much better Godzilla movie, it's just a better movie overall. Shin is like a student film written and directed by a moron, it's barely even a real movie.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >directed by a moron
      You mean Anno right?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think he's a moron, he's a really good grifter. I mean his projects just all kind of come out looking like they were made by somebody who does not understand even the basics of filmmaking. Maybe he's just lazy.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          One thing I don't understand is how anybody watches his shit with subtitles unless they are pausing every few seconds to catch certain dialog. Shin godzilla wasn't so bad with this, but Shin Ultraman is borderline unwatchable for a non-Japanese speaker.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Shin Ultraman was randowm shit thown at a random forest he recorded in

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I really didn't give a single frick about the main character or his bawww I am dishonorobu problems. Guy trying to avert disaster against the inertia of a complacent beuracracy is a much more relatable and interesting premise to me. Godzilla also had much more of an "unfathomable monstrosity" quality, which I think is core to what makes Godzilla a good villain.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only weird autists prefer Shin

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Minus One. I get what Shin was aiming for, but it's just too boring. I don't want to watch a movie where a bunch of suits sit around in meetings doing nothing, even if it's meant as a satire of inefficient bureaucracy.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You'd rather watch a movie where a bunch of japs sit around in a room shouting NO MORE DEAD COPS and crying about their honor?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm convinced the few weird morons hyping Shin Godzilla up as some kind of deeply intellectual film masterpiece are just doing it as a joke. Nobody can seriously believe that.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's just a little bit more elevated than your typical godzilla plot of the past like 25 years. Its more like a 70s Godzilla movie, in that a lot of it has to do with the intricacies of the response to the crisis and a conflict between the guys in charge and the guys who want to do something.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Which is boring as shit

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Did you like the Godzilla starring Walter White? If you did we just fundamentally have different tastes.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Strawman, try again moron.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A lot of it is
          >dude its so WEIRD and DIFFERENT
          And it is, but so is Godzilla vs Hedorah but unlike Shin that one is actually fun and has some soul to it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Godzilla vs Gidhorah was my favorite growing up. Gidhorah was also my favorite antagonistic monster. The "dude it's so weird and different" thing is just people unaccustomed to godzilla movies being something other than by the numbers action shlock.

            Shin wasn't my favorite movie of all time, but if forced to choose I'd take Shin over Minis One any day. I literally don't think I could sit through minus one ever again.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm watching Minus right now and it reminded me why I hate Japanese movies so much. Those frickers just cannot act. They are incapable of showing realistic human emotions. They always overact and are so over the top it kills me with cringe. Even the chinks and asiatics are way better than the Nips when it comes to movies and acting. Japan just need to stick to anime.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Koreans are the only ensouled Asians. It's actually a crime that they are forced to live in the hypercapitalist dystopia that America has imposed on them. Japanese can hack it, but Koreans genuinely suffer from ennui.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Shin had the better soundtrack but that's it

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