(Continued from )
First of all, YES, PEOPLE STILL WATCH THIS SHOW!
Now, that THAT'S out of the way....
As we have seen in DERISION, REVELATION, CONFRONTATION, and COLLUSION, Adrien, and Sabrina no longer want ANYTHING to do with Chloe. The end result is that Lila and Chloe have formed an uneasy alliance. I say uneasy, since both are alpha personalities, and both are jockeying for position of Queen b***h. The temporary alliance is formed if only for the sole purpose to bring Marinette/Ladybug down for good.
So far, they have tried to frame Marinette for forging papers, but Sabrina exposes both Chloe and Lila for who they are.
You would think the alliance between Chloe and Lila would be stronger, but now Chloe has become Mayor of Paris, and has issued a decree OUTLAWING Ladybug, cat Noir, and Monarch.
By doing so, she has put her alliance with Lila in great jeopardy to say the least, since her alliance with Monarch has, so far been to Lila's benefit.
What exactly will happen next?
Will Ladybug, Cat Noir, and Monarch now be forced into a temporary alliance to bring down Chloe, and reinstate Andre as The Mayor of Paris?
Will Mr. Damocles be reinstated as principle of
College Francoise DuPont? Will Ms Mendeleiev go back to teaching science?
What are your thoughts, and predictions, true believers?
People still watch this shit?
Do you even know how to read, or do you think you're being funny?
really wish that Ladybug got thrown in a trash can
So, Chloegay, or Lilagay?
neither I'm a chadnoirsexual. I want Cat to have a fricking harem
Replace Chloe with Zoe, replace Volpina with Rena Rouge, and maybe I'd see it your way, but I would never throw Ladybug into the trash.
Chatgays always seething about cute bug
Still a fair question to ask ngl
sex with ladybug
also
Don't make me post the faces....
s-sorry no lewd mari
I'm afraid it's a bit late for that.
I'll restrain myself as much as possible, but if anybody posts >CONFIRMED SEXO
then I can't be held responsible for what I post next!
No generals Black folk
>Chloe has become Mayor of Paris
Fricking ... what??
Yes!
It happened!
Watch COLLUSION!
She didn't become the mayor you mouth-breathing moron
Her father resigned from being the mayor and she did a broadcast from the office trying to turn the public against Ladybug as a result
There was no elective process involved
The level of intelligence in Ladybug threads is noticeably lower than the rest of the board
Boy are you an IDIOT!
When her father stepped down, what did Chloe do?
She sat in her father's chair and assumed control, thus appointing herself as The Mayor of Paris.
It's called a Coup D'etat .
Are you not familiar with how hostile takeover of positions of power works?
Fricking read some history, homosexual!
I don't want to join in with you larping as a moron thanks
Don't let the door hit you on your ass on you way out, homosexual.
i haven’t watched ML for the past year kek this show really is going balls to the walls insane
Yeah, and Season Five isn't even finished yet.
How will she handle the strikes against the retirement reforms?
She'd have them all thrown in jail because it doesn't benefit her.
no mayor she became a dictator with a robot army at her disposal.
yea pretty much this
Do what Macron is doing except with robots
>mayor
not really, it was a coup.
Astruc wasnt kidding when he said chloe was worse than hitler.
Parisians are moron enough to pick a widely known brat as their mayor, they knew André was a corrupt simp and he still got 98% of the votes in his favor.
Ladybug doesn’t need “bullshit magic” in her mask, she can just go as Marinette with a ponytail and they still wouldn’t know her identity.
Ok....did they just pull a damn Danny Phantom with Chloe becoming the mayor just like Tucker?
I never watched Danny Phantom, so I'm not qualified to answer that question.
I would say more like Candace from Phineas and Ferb, since her reign will be like Candace's utterly ridiculous
SURPRISE BUTT SEX
I think you meant to say SURPRISE REACH AROUND HANDY!
>FIFY
>YOU'RE WELCOME
why not both?
Somehow, I don't think Cat Noir wants to be pegged.
he unknowingly let daddy do it i don't think he minds
That's called RAPE, and judging by the look on Cat Noir's face, he didn't enjoy it one bit.
fine i'll buttsecks ladybug
I thought you wanted to peg Adrien.
Make up your mind.
that would be ideal but you say he won't like it and i want it to be consensual and laybug is a dirty little bawd and she'll like it.
That she is, that she is...
yeah she'd get it
You can have Ladybug.
I'll take Rena Rouge.
When will episodes be released in 4K?
new seasons might be eventually but old ones would have to be upscaled
big fricking breasts
Not if I get there first, and throw Kagami into the mix!
her?
Well, she initiated it.
How could I say no?
Is Ladybug Sentisexual?
I fail to understand the question
me too
old meme I know, but which one is getting the best Head/Cunnilingus? answer the damn question
Google Ferjuasi, and decide for yourself.
what ep is this
Season 4 finale.
> White Rena Rouge
Heresy.
i don't think so season 4 finale has no flood
yea It's syren
>(Continued from
)
Good start and good to be back. Just to add
which was the real last one.
Art book wiki: https://www.artbookwiki.com/show-bibles/09-07-2012-v3-1
/aco/ is dead
/3/ is still going:
Fan comics: https://zoe-oneesama.tumblr.com/post/708615131864743936/scarlet-lady-au-chapters-master-post-season-1
Thanks, and the same to you.
I thought the other thread got filled up way too fast and too early and there wasn't enough discussion about the last two episodes, so it was my hope that people would discuss them further, but, I see we've already degenerated into the expected silliness that usually comes with a ML thread. (Not that I'm complaining, mind you...)
>there wasn't enough discussion about the last two episodes
Yes, that was a bit unexpected. Not even a summary.
I checked, but no new episodes are announced.
These Scarlet Lady comics are pure gold! I'd like to greet the author, someday!
>Fan comics: https://zoe-oneesama.tumblr.com/post/708615131864743936/scarlet-lady-au-chapters-master-post-season-1
> Adrien is competent and intelligent for a change
> Marinette isn't a schizo control freak
> Lila isn't a big bad in the making
This comic is pretty great!
The only thing I consider a down side is that the author stopped to make Scarlet Lady relevant, except for the lucky charm summon
>Marinette isn't a schizo control freak
>Lila isn't a big bad in the making
Too bad. I like this comic too, but Marinette fighting her own schizo is an entertainment in itself. That's what made ending of season 4 great,for example. And I find beyond-your-understanding Lila interesting too, except when everyone becomes single digit iq around her except main heroes. Who knows, it might as well turn out Lila is not even a human
That’s my theory, she’s an alien, a thousand years old, or worse a boy!!!!
>or worse a boy
Jokes on you Asstruck. Its too late for that. Nothing can stop my boner now that I've seen short haired Lila
I think the strength of the comic is exactly about to pick up every single shortcut and (lack of) development to the characters and subvert that with some twist.
Adrien and Marinette are less unnerving, Tikki's suffering is pure gold etc.
The pure amount of snark of the AU is gold.
The issue with the comic is that it would be absolutely nothing without the show. The author didn’t create she took something that was given to her and made a spiteful comic (though some genuine fun in there I’d say) would never work on its own, and smells of I think I could do better. Honestly it really does belong on tumblr
>made a spiteful comic
True enough.
Comedy aside, it looks everyone, bar Chloe and Hawkmoth, are characters from Ultimate Marvel.
sex status?
CONFIRMED
At first Marinette was all like...
And then she got all like...
Well, the entire transformation is plainly orgasmic, though they toned it down a lot in the movie.
The Moviebug poster probably doesn't think so
>Tomoe
We'll need her Tsurugi gadgets for some futuristic shit in the show. Or someone else with high tech. Can't make a kids show without one. Especially if that show takes something from superhero comics
I just wanted to post some Lady Noire
>Moviebug poster
I found a larger version. And I am not seeing what you mean.
>miraculous... LE FILM!
Quoth Poirot: Bien!
There is, however, a critical lack of baguettes.
Anon, I...
>2.40 aspect ratio
if this was 16:9 we'd have full ass vag shot i am sad
Sorry, Anon. This is the only thing close to it that I have
Clearly I am not familiar with French style orgasms.
>French style orgasms
You mean this?
Also, I was talking about anon posting transformation sequence of Ladybug from the movie, but I guess I didn't convey it right
>French style orgasms
What you posted was insertion.
I think you meant this:
There's a reason why the pics are posted in the particular sequence....
Now, when she thinks of Adrien, she's always gonna be like...
I don't remember
Any idea when they air E25 and 26? I watched the leaked animatics months ago, but would like to watch the finished product to see if anything changes.
If I knew, I would tell ya, but I don't.
Sorry.
About the meaning of the various names:
https://nitter.net/i/status/1662684553184419840
Thanks for the link for those of us who don't speak French, or pick up on the nuances, and subtleties of the language, or puns.
(However, Bourgeois was/is quite apparent to everybody, even those who don't speak French, so we all got that joke rather quickly as soon as Chloe opened her mouth)
he forgot one or two subtleties.
"Agreste" is the name of a family of butterflies, but it also means "rural", which contrasts with Gabe's extremely elitist beliefs, and is also a subtle indication of his secret modest origins.
speaking of which, his real surname "Grassette" is the name of a family of carnivorous plants that eat butterflies and also a (quasi) anagram of Agreste. Grassette is also derived from "gras" (fat), and since Gabe's parents run a chip van it is in line with most surnames of the show being linked with people's jobs.
>André mostly did wrong because of his wife and daughter squeezing him from his balls.
>Zoe showed André’s good side and pushed him to do good.
>André finally reflexed on his sins to become a better person.
>Gabriel manipulated his reflexion to satanize him at his favor, ruining his reputation.
>André quits his role to follow his dreams and become a better person without hesitation.
>Animators cut his divorce speech with Audrey and water it down into three lines.
>No one, Bustier, Ladybug nor Chat Noir debunked André’s video manipulation, so he will probably live hated because of that.
>It can be said that’s his punishment for years of corruption.
However.
>Gabriel threatened everyone’s lives just for his wife’s.
>Gabriel enslaved and tortured Kwamis.
>Gabriel ensured to shit on everyone at a personal level.
>Blackmailed Alya with her family’s lives.
>Assured he will poof Felix in a snap if he pleased.
>Enslaved his own son.
>Shown he would torture Adrien psychologically with his dead mother had he know he’s Chat Noir.
>Shown he would ruin Adrien’s relationship & happiness just to get another jobber Akuma.
>Ladybug ends up telling everyone Gabriel is a hero that deserves his own statue, giving him all the credit for Hawkmoth’s downfall in exchange of his life
> “B-B-But he DID IT FOR LOVE”
Mayor André also corrupted out of love, mostly against his will from threats, and yet he will live with a punishment. Gabriel did everything on purpose by himself, fully aware of being an ass without remorse, and he gets to be remembered as a hero. This mostly feels like a bad ending.
>BUT ADRIEN
Literally why does Gabriel have to be a hero? Why not just tell him he helped Hawkmoth all along but then regretted it? It’s way much less of a lie. He was completely in the wrong, and if Brazilians are so pussy about him getting jailed, then turning him into a hero after a “sacrifice” is nowhere near equivalent.
André literally redeemed himself as a person and will live with a punishment for his bad actions.
Gabriel does a considerate gesture and not gets away with everything, but Ladybug herself presents him as a hero of all Paris with people applauding him.
If André got his divorce scene completely cut from the final product, then I hope the same for all the scenes claiming Gabriel as a hero.
>muh statue
Who cares, Gabe's dead. Isn't that all that matters? And you surely know Ladybug can't frick up Adrien's life more than she did already (even though she doesn't know it yet)
This. She's basically doing it for Adrien's peace of mind and Gabriel's dead so it really doesn't matter what the public thinks of him.
I'm just reminded of The Dark Knight Rises when Bane exposes Harvey Dent's murders as Two-Face to the city and everybody riots.
Not everybody but mostly the inmates he breaks out of prison
>Ladybug ends up telling
She did the only right thing, or did you feel otherwise? Things are bad but there is no reason to make it worse, especially as there would be absolutely no benefit to anyone.
Things like this is why I think we are moving out of the 6 - 14 age bracket.
> SPOILER
Well, considering Adrien was directly (despite not intentionally) responsible for Gabe's slow cataclysm's death, I don’t think the kid needs to be more traumatized.
Yeah but that's just because Adrien is a fricking pussy who wants Daddy's love even after what a rotten piece of shit he's been to him and even if he's a supervillain terrorist who's committed multiple war crimes.
Has the English dub caught up yet?
Not yet. Dubs are there. The French VAs are not too bad, others make Marinette sound like a gruff stereoid abuser. She is, would you believe, supposed to be cute.
In a previous thread it was mentioned that broadcasts were in different qualities, even if in same resolution. Where are the best ones?
ahem.... I WANT TO CUM INSIDE MARINETTE'S UNDERAGE HAPA PUSSY
How can that be possible?
Everybody chases after Marinette.
That leaves Sabrina for me!
Sabrina's sexiness is very underrated.
YIKR?
There is something very strange going on in pic. related.
It's nothing that a little de-evilisation couldn't fix...
She only dates black men
So, the New York special, and the Rule 34 art would suggest, but I bet I could open up her mind to the possibilities of dating white men.
It wouldn't hurt the show that much have a white girl x white boy pairing that is healthy and cool... just remembered they have Ivan x Mylene, which is cute, so, ok for me.
This show is pushing its diversity agenda diligently. I think it's a big middle finger to Gabriel, but, again, he deserves whatever will be his bad ending.
Just wish Tomoe have her own bad ending.
You aren't sexually excited by Marinette, are you anon?
Lila is my sex slave
>Lila is my sex slaver
Fixed.
cringe
blessed
artist?
REVOLMXD
was english dub of intuion today in central europe where is it?
If Gabriel dies, what is to become of Nathalie?
She has hurt herself rather badly by using a damaged miraculous, and is not in the best of health.
And when you stop to think about it, what will become of Emily.
Is it even possible to revive her without causing the apocalypse?
Anon... Gabe's wish will have Nathalie cured and Emily back to life, both living happily
Wrong
That would be nice.
I'd like that.
The fans could live with that.
Anons like
and
couldn't.
>Is it even possible to revive her without causing the apocalypse?
It seems the first signs that are shown are the world became a better place, and everything's fine and good now. But we've had the same thing in every season's ending and always there's some twist right at the start of the next one. So expect apocalypse in the face of...
It's astonishing that Lila is there since season 1's finale and, bar season 2, she just becomes more and more dangerous along the seasons.
It's scary...0rwmp
Now that Kagami went off with Felix to their home planet Lila is this show's newest best girl. Better grow used to it.
I'm waiting for the ultimate showdown between Lila and Chloe.
There isn't any room for two Alpha personality villains in Paris, you know.
It's gonna be Lila, effortlessly. Chloe is too much of an impulsive moron to really compete.
For people to think this is even a contest is laughable. Chloe is Lila's lapdog. She literally spent the last episode repeating the stuff Lila was whispering in her ear.
Chloe has always been about leeching off others' success and making them fight her battles when things don't go her way. Her parents, Ladybug, Hawk Moth, and now Lila, she sees them as tickets to fast fame and success.
Dogs have been known to turn on their masters.
Just look at Sabrina.
Plus, Chloe announced that Monarch is a criminal.
Lila, until recently has bennefitted from being friends with both Gabriel and Monarch.
Do you think Lila is going to stand for this?
NO!
This is an act of betrayal on Chloe's part, and Lila is planing her revenge.
There will be a battle between both Lila and Chloe in the near future.
As I said before there isn't enough room two Alpha villains in The City of Lights.
1. We already know Chloe's leaving. 2. It won't be much of a battle, Chloe is no match for Lila in terms of plotting and wit nevermind when Lila actually gets a Miraculous next season.
I don't think Lila feels she needs revenge, Chloe dug her own grave and eliminated herself.
But the fans demand a Battle Royale before she leaves!
Well you aren't getting one. Chloe ruins everything on her own next episode and is kicked out for the rest of the season. Besides like anon said, Lila would eat Chloe alive.
We'll see about that, Lila, we'll see...
not really. They had their shot to make anything interesting woth Chloe and they blew it. She can just go and never come back for all I care. Its Lila time now.
Chloe might come back and start more trouble
Also, Lila's grudge pretty much goes forever. Chloe is just very unimportant/a conveniently dumb ally for Lila care.
S/he is face of discord now.
?
>he
The frick are you on about?
France will broadcast E24 on June 10. Not sure what happened to E23. This will be the day before the preview of the animation movie. Source:
https://nitter.net/ladybugfrance
holy boobies
I watch Derision and holy shit the amount they tried to justify Marinette's Stalker tendency is stupid
>Chloe played a prank on me so now I'm gonna know everything about the next person I date or plan to date
>Except Luka. He's good
>Also I know what Chloe has done to me in the past but let me trust her with the Bee Miraculous
You're dumb. We all knew that Chloe was ahuge c**t before, it was stated how bad she was in Origins and referenced back many times. The reason Marinette became more trusting was that she got the miraculous and she grew as a hero, literally abig part of season 2 is trusting these other holders and when Chloe showed signs of changing she took a risk and gave her the miraculous. As for Luka she never even went on a full date with him. Not once. So strange how people try to dunk on this show's writing but actually forget what happened in cannon. Bizarre
>As for Luka she never even went on a full date with him
She never went on a date with Adrien before she started stalking him
She could hardly form a coherent sentence before she actually went some where with him.
I don't like the direction they went with Marinette having ptsd, cause it was obvious it was just Marinette being quirky before, but there were a few parts of what made her act moronic.
The first one is being around le funny guy (Kim or Chat Noir), which she seemed to get over with Chat Noir probably because of seeing his more serious side.
The second part is being friends with Chloe. Luka is not friends with her, neither is Chat Noir (from Marinette's pov), so it wasn't a problem for both of them, but was a big problem with being close to Adrien since the beginning.
Also keep in mind that Marinette doesn't even remember the event up until episode 14 (and neither do writers), so she couldn't point out what was the problem before that.
but she never liked luka as much as adrien he wa sjuts a safe second option because she couldn't get with Adrien because she was inept.
Marinette is always quirky but with Adrien she got especially moronic. It would make sense she would remember this shit when she finally got serious with someone. When you remember dumbshit that happened to you as a kid you have to be reminded of it, because it's buried deep down and you forget. It makes sense to me honestly.
>When you remember dumbshit that happened to you as a kid you have to be reminded of it, because it's buried deep down and you forget
Marinette is only 14 and the incident only happened about a year prior. I know years can seem longer when you're young but it wasn't really all that long ago for her.
Yea but a lot has happened since then. Girl is fighting for the fate of Paris everyday. Her perspective and confidence has completely changed. It was until season 5 the season when she was at her lowest that she would give in.
I have to say, I didn't expect Kim, of all, guys, was her first crush.
Reminscing now, Reflekta's debut back in season one had that old photo with Marinette close to Kim. Funny, in retrospect.
Just thinking who will be dumb enough to do her homework, now Sabrina did quit.
>Just thinking who will be dumb enough to do her homework, now Sabrina did quit.
Probably nobody. She's leaving anyway, and I think they're past the point where she needs required schooling. She can just coast on her family's money being a socialite from now on.
Chloe will be back in Season 6 as if nothing happened. Asstruck forbid this show goes without its number-one plot-device of a character.
Even if she does, we already know they're heading to another school next season where they won't be required to deal with her anymore. While Chloe probably will still make an appearance from time to time, it still probably won't be the same.
We already know from the leaks that Caline is mayor and the city will be completely revamped going forward with their brand new student friendly school system and futuristic blimp transports, so even if Chloe returns her usual shtick will no longer be possible.
Well, there's Tomoe and Bob as side antagonists.
While Bob barely counts, unless there's money or akumatization involved, Tomoe is quite dangerous, even if Gabriel is out of question.
>gets rid of chloe
>gets rid of Alix
>gets rid of Luka
>gets rid of Felix
>Gets rid of Kagami
>Gets rid of Gabe
>here is Bob
>here is Zoe
>here is not-Brigette
What is with this show getting rid of all the interesting and plot-point characters and inserting all those pointless ones?
Alix Luka and Kagami at least are coming back next season. I don't know if Felix is gonna be sticking around but he's at least in good guy territory now.
They're mostly just ditching Chloe and Gabriel for Lila as the main villain though I really do wonder how we'll she'll hold up compared to Gabriel?
I think Lila will be fine manipulating people as HM or whatever they call her. One on one she does well. It’s only in groups where it feels dumb.
I feel Lila might be an even more terrifying HM because of that.
Hawkmoth by default is supposed to be this evil dark empath but Gabe was always too much of a social autist to get that well. Lila on the other hand would be a natural with the butterfly miraculous.
Didn't one of the early bibles state that Hawk Moth had no ulterior motive and enjoyed causing chaos for its own sake just to see what would happen? That sounds more like Lila's speed compared to Gabriel.
And I'm still wanting to see her actual Butterfly design.
A lot of bullshit Bible spoilers out there anon
That was the season 1 portion before it was revealed he's Gabriel where he did just seem to be evil for the sake of it.
Which is fitting with how the new Hawk Moth is back to square one like in the beginning.
That drawing makes me wonder. Season 6 is said to have new models so I guess that means aging up the cast. So what will their adult wear and importantly their adult costumes be like?
The upgraded LB costume has a zipper, I guess the next iteration it will have to go all the way down and go well with thigh high platform boots.
it's probably only going to be a few months
>That drawing makes me wonder.Season 6 is said to have new models
jesus christ 5 seasons in and people still dont seem to grasp that the character design in this show is as low-effort as they come, and it becomes worse with every season. They even totally dropped the transformation sequence from previous seasons.
Once and for all, realize that there will be no changes, and if does they will change slighly a model (in order to make a new toy) but mantain the main structure. There will also be no age up.
>Once and for all, realize that there will be no changes,
We already have some changes.
>There will also be no age up.
Why not?
the new LB suit its literally the same model but with a different skin. Also this was clearly made to sell new toys, in the story it makes absolutely no sense for her clothes to change after the lucky charm. She doesnt even get a power-up or anything, its literally a "just threw the lucky charm" change.
no, it's the change that grants the magical amulet.
They literally said we will be updating the models for next season. They are also now only working with a couple of studios unlike before in order for the product to come out on time.
>less studios making less episodes will make them come out on time
???
Some studios failed to deliver to the agreed deadlines. At least one studio collapsed before completing their work. That lead to a lot of gried and out of order broadcasting.
Thus, relying on reliable studios WILL make sure the episodes come out on time.
There is also the issue of at least one studio using official models for making lewds (nothing was leaked) and that several GB of models have leaked already.
>bro studios made lewds bro
>nothing was leaked and we know nothing but it totally happened
yikes
Given the camels that were broadcast, we can only assume the lewds were rather extreme.
in order/hopefully prevent leaks
They said they are getting new outfits, I don't expect them to skip anymore than a few months
It was likely that Indian Studio that made Startrain in season 3. They've always had difficulties with Studios but they made it a point in that press conference 2-3 weeks ago to say they are only working with a select few now for that reason as well as others that were mentioned.
The cat is just superior to her in every way
>They literally said we will be updating the models for next season
Which will likely just be freshening up and adding details but otherwise being the exact same models as before, so no aging up anytime soon.
>mantain the main structure.
The main structure is already out the window with a new villain, and the entire concept of the fight sequences being changed because there's now no time limit or one time use limit. So the usual "Stall until the right time to use Lucky charm then come up with a plan in 5 minutes" is already out. Plus they completely revamped Paris, are changing the school they go to, and there's the 18 other heroes though they admittedly probably won't be a factor every episode.
I think the main issue is that Lila will be back to basic b***h HM. No Peawiener, No Alliance Rings, not even Gabriel's billions of dollars in resources and high tech equipment with a fortified mansion. She's gonna be in a hacker cave with one laptop. And I'll give her the benefit that she's probably older than she seems so he probably won't have a timer.
Meanwhile LB and CN have no timer and unlimited powers so their biggest advantage to use against them is now gone. CN can just cataclysm everything and LB has a whole arsenal of Lucky Charms. Just look at how OP she is in the final fight against Gabriel from the animatic. AND she's got 18 allies all of whom are no longer limited to having to deal them out and retrieve them. Even assuming they mostly stay out of the fights, cause a 20 on 1 shitstomp will end every episode in 5 minutes that's still a massive advantage.
The power has shifted. While Gabriel had a massive advantage against LB and CN for his reign, Lila is the underdog here.
But doesn’t Lila have a new ally now… we don’t see who it is but still. Also doesn’t she have tech with her as well.
She has one of Gabriel's laptops, which helps, but isn't exactly much.
Id feel Lila might be a more hands-on type of Hawkmoth. She would get out of her hiding and manipulate the shit out the victim before handing them the butterfly. It would increase her chances of getting caught but her akumas would be way more powerful and easily manipulated because of it.
That would also be to her disadvantage. Unlike Gabriel, who had the edge in a fight against the duo most of the time the more powerful LB and CN would stomp her.
thats why the akumas must be really OP, so that actually pay off. We saw how timetagger was way more powerful than regular gabe akumas so I dont think that would be a strech
>The power has shifted. While Gabriel had a massive advantage against LB and CN for his reign, Lila is the underdog here.
And that is what will make this interesting, seeing her start from the ground up and having to work around more experienced heroes. We know she's going to be holding the Hawk Moth position for at least ten years, so she's clearly doing something right.
>she's clearly doing something right
I mean Gabe will manage to win in a year or so, while Lila will be fighting off the heroes for 10 years. It doesnt seem so right to me.
maybe she isn't even the hawkmoth by then
Gabriel didn't win. At best he lost on his own terms, and even then his akuma's didn't give him that, his stolen Miraculous (which he got from a lucky break with Felix) did. His akuma's always lost.
>he thinks I meant the ending of season 4
there is a reason that phrase is marked as spoiler y'know
I know exactly what you meant, and not that's not a win, that's losing on his terms.
>gets exactly what he wanted
>losing
sure buddy
>gets exactly what he wanted
>fricking dies
lmao
Also, he wanted to destroy Ladybug and Chat Noir. Did he get what he wanted? Take a guess
>spends 4 seasons after The Wish
>The Wish is granted to him
>saves his wife
>saves nathalie
>saves his relationship with his son
>is known as a hero
>n-no! He lost!!
is this the new copium Astruc apologists are taking to justify that cucked ending? lmao
>Astruc apologists
Ah, you're one of those guys.
>spends 4 seasons after The Wish
And when he has an opportunity to make it true, he fricks it up with his hateboner for Ladybug. So it doesn't look like a win for him already with that
>The Wish is granted to him
In exchange for his life, basically
>saves his wife
>saves nathalie
Who knows, maybe he's being cuckolded with his wife by Nathalie. Also, may I remind you, he's dead.
>saves his relationship with his son
By being dead. Moreover, he fricked it up by being alive
>is known as a hero
Well, he died to make a world a better place. By being dead. I guess that makes him a hero, in some way. But, may I remind you once again, he's a fricking corpse. In other words, dead.
Will it make this better for you if he'd be on a lifesentence without a chance of ever seeing anyone he knew?
>dead
so what? Do you think someone who woud be willing to become a terrorist and destroy a city in daily basis would give two shits about being alive as long as he got what he wanted?
Do you need to be reminded how many times he sacrificed himself to try and grow closer to his goal? Staying alive wasnt on his priority list, and the fact that you think that despite getting everything he wanted he lost only because he wasnt alive to see it is laughable.
the whole point of the wish was so he can live happily with his wife and Adrien. He doesn't get any of that lmao. That's not a victory you moron that's the tragedy of the situation.
>Do you need to be reminded how many times he sacrificed himself to try and grow closer to his goal?
Yes, please, remind me. I feel like he sacrificed Adrien more often than himself
This current season has made it pretty clear Gabriel had ambitions beyond just getting Emile back for Adrien no matter what happened to him. He was only ever willing to take gambles with his safety because he knew the wish would fix it. Him dying was never part of his plan.
Yes, but his obsession got the best of him, and he forgot the main purpose of his mission.
>Many such cases
I think they just started changing up that plot a bit when Gloob told them him getting arrested wouldn't be acceptable to the Brazil audience and they're a big sponsor now. So they started making it so that Gabriel had more ambitions so that when he had to sacrifice himself in the end it didn't seem like he got away unpunished.
Conicidentally Gabriel starting to become an even worse turbo controlling butthole that started losing his shit over people "defying" him right around the time Gloob started sponsoring.
it honestly isn't that big of a reach that Gabe lost his way as he continued to fail time and time again.
If that's true, Gloob (actually, Globo, their main enterprise) is just pushing an agenda, similar to how they keep making their sappy controversal soap operas lately.
I understand Gabriel/Hawkmoth/Monarch need to make space for a new villain eventually, but, the thing is:
The character Gabriel Agreste/Hawkmoth is actually beloved by the fans. Despite be a terrible parent and an irremedable a-hole. Dying as a "the hero who stopped Monarch" is probably for better.
For all his failures, I'll actually miss the character.
>Astruc apologists
Astruc was closely involved in S1 - 4, but I thoughht he was a "consultant" starting with S5.
>Wanted Emile to return to he could have her again, while continuing to exploit Adrien as his perfect son and get him with Kagami and destroy Ladybug for defying him.
>Instead is humilated and defeated by Ladybug and has to commit suicide to save Emile instead so literally everyone else in his life is happier without him, meanwhile Marinette gets exactly what she wanted by being able to get with Adrien with him out of the way.
That's not exactly a win for him
>Luka
>Alix
> interesting
I like Alix but she barely did anything. Luka is a lamp and was only used for ship bait. I feel validated that people like Zoe despite her having the personality of a plank of wood only because it gives credit to my notion that if you stick any character who is nice to Marinette in her vicinity fans of this show will like them despite the characters being bland as hell.
>I like Alix but she barely did anything.
kid alix yes but adult Alix has an infinite ammount of potential for episodes, being a time-traveller and all.
Luka is a lamp and was only used for ship bait
that may be the truth until s4 but they dumped a bunch of important info on his back then send him off without doing anything about it.
>Zoe despite her having the personality of a plank of wood only because it gives credit to my notion that if you stick any character who is nice to Marinette in her vicinity fans of this show will like them despite the characters being bland
agreed, and lets not forget the brownie points she got for being a lesbian. The effort astruc does to make people like his new character is palpable and it never ceases to amuse me.
Nothing is stopping Alix from coming and doing more cool shit. Also considering what Luka does(I’m not gunna spoil anything) doesn’t seem like he’s forgotten imo. Never really cared for luka personally so maybe that’s just me.
The strange thing is that despite everything going against Zoe they somehow still found people to like her. It’s the fricking Taylor swift stans that make zoenette edits on TikTok. Fricking shallow as hell but it worked on them to some level. I’m convinced this show will never die. Not complaining though as long as I see more Cat noir I’m good.
>Nothing is stopping Alix from coming and doing more cool shit.
except Ladybug coming to her young self and basically saying " hey stop coming to this timeline and doing cool shit. Its dangerous."
Yea but she can just come whenever she wants just like older Alix.
Yea but the ally
I still hold out hope that in Season 6 we'll see more character growth as far as Bunix, and Zoe are concerned.
I literally just wanna see more of cat noir
Of course you do, Anon.
Of course you do...
Literally me since 2016
I don’t but I said that I wanted miss hound to chase cat noir around.
I wish Ghost Force have at least one episode about Chloe causing problems in NY, so much that Ms. Jones just spirits her back to Paris.
But I thought Lila is the one who dictates everything in Miraculous Ladybug. That's what she told me and Mr. Astruc!
And how much, exactly did you pay for The Eiffel Tower?
Last time I spoke to Lila, she tried to sell me The Mona Lisa, and got very angry with me when she saw that I actually had the original one in my collection.
What do you mean by plot device? Chloe isn’t a plot device.
Many akumatization plots, especially in Season 1, start with Chloe pissing somebody off. That's pretty much making her a walking plot-device.
No that’s her character you dummy. She’s an insufferable brat with a lot of power, that’s who she has always been. Difference between now and pre origins is that their was no akumas to transform people back then.
All the difference is that initially she had at least some cunning and actually could make up decent plots. Now she can't even pronounce words properly and can't last 5 seconds without giving the plot away.
Plus early on she geniunely terrified people, while now the whole class mostly sees her as an annoyance they need to thwart rather than someone they're terrified and helpless against.
She had cunning at a low level and was constantly foiled when people stood up to her. She has always been a stubborn yet easily manipulated character. Also of course she would loose her terrifying nature she only had it because people were to pussy to go against her. It’s like you didn’t watch the show and see people constantly get one up on her with push back. Lila’s plans involved a lot more complicated than stealing phones and getting your daddy to do things for you. I like chloe well enough but your giving her fat to much credit, it’s like your talking about someone else entirely.
Anons right, they definitely started exaggerating her post Queen Bee. Admittedly they started exaggerating everyone though even Lila who went from a cunning liar to a chess master superspy.
If you look look at season 1 chloe vs season 5 chloe the only difference is she hates ladybug and is far more spiteful because she didn’t get her miraculous. She’s doubled down on her bad habits and has become a far worse version of what she was as a person. Still more interesting than the character meant to replace her.
She literally STOLE a Miraculous. Chloe was never meant to get one to begin with.
What’s that got to do with what I’m saying anon
The whole time I’ve been discussing that everything Chloe has done as part of her character. Anon is saying she’s a plot device which I’m saying is untrue because all her actions that have been taken so far in the show correspond to how she is as a character. Her stealing the miraculous is another example of something she would do.
Yeah, Chloe sucks.
comic is nice. Shame the artist is such a c**t. Many such cases sad
>She literally STOLE a Miraculous. Chloe was never meant to get one to begin with.
And that`s what made her being part of the heroes interesting, a spoiled brat who hates the protagonist civilian identity but idolizes her as a hero. That is way more interesting that friend of the day who helps the hero for 1 episode and then fricks off until is called again.
The worst part is that they felt the need to retroactively try to make Marinette's kooky behavior something serious and dramatic (key word tried) but then immediately do something crazy and cartoonish again like make Chloe the mayor.
Chloe as mayor is a fricking slay though
This show feels like it's gotten way too stupid and ridiculous
You mean even more so than usual?
It's always been stupid and ridiculous.
That's why people LIKE it!
That's part of it's charm.
Anon, this doesn't feel like the good kind of stupid and ridiculous. Like Sharknado evolving to have the god of sharks seeking vengeance on humanity. This is the bad kind of stupid and ridiculous, like RWBY.
The difference was Rwby was never truly good outside of the fights. even in the early seasons, It's story and characters were never great. it was a got popular because the guys made good use of a shitty budget and when they tried to evolve it their talent didn't carry over.
Miraculous has always been a kids show since S1. It has moments of maturity but it still caters to a preteen audience. They never jumped the shark. They've been riding the waves of success for years and making more and more money. Also being the only show currently with that blend of romance and action along with an actual HET couple. This show fills a hole that no other show has filled in close to a decade.
I never saw RWBY, so I can't make those kinds of comparisons.
All I know is I want to see what happens next in ML.
(And I still stand by my post)
i'd suck wiener for mayor chloe
Well, she DOES look good in that black Queen Wasp outfit, I'll say that much in her favor.
imagine being lost at a theme park and the ladybug came up to you to help you find your parents but instead she takes you back to the break room and has her way with you haha wouldn't that be something
I don't think this show does scatology. You might have more luck with Totally Spies, which might as well be named Totally Depraved.
who said anything about scat
What do you think happens in "the break room"?
no idea what it means where you live but here break room is where you have your lunch (and in this case get jerked off by ladybug)
Just jerked?
Nah. She'd be choking on my baguette followed with copious amounts of nut butter, if you catch my drift...
Who the hell is this?
ladybugs english voice actress
Oh... The age got to her I see. At first I thought it was someone else. Though she looked similar
still hot i'd pump my semen deep inside her womb
And how about when she screams LUCKY CHARM in character at the top of her lungs the moment that happens?
If it were me, I'd scream CATACLYSM right afterwards.
The when we were done, we'd both simultaneously say POUND IT at the same time.
this guy fantasizes
Here.
Have a Ladybug
will have to be for tomorrow, i've got hailee on the mind.
Cristina is fricked up. You ever hear her speak or in public you know something’s wrong with her. She’s got severe autism and has huge hangups. The anon that’s been dumping for her in the past few threads I’d just move on to something else. Plenty of other goblinas out there.
Cristina's just a big spergy fangirl who somehow lucked into a professional VA career at a con 20 something years ago when she did some fan dub event when industry guys happened to be in earshot and they scooped her up because the anime industry was still relatively young at the time and this was before every nerd and their mother wanted to be a VA.
That's not surprising. She probably never grew out of that phase, how could she when it's basically been her life 24/7 for the last decade
Don’t really know her history but she’s so lucky that happened to her. Can’t imagine her being given any position at all the way she is mentally. I like Bryce papenbrook though, very limited range but I believe he does well. Also seems like a genuinely nice guy that loves his job. Dad got him into the business of course but if there was anyone that’d I’d be ok with benefitting from nepotism it’d be him.
That's what I wanna do to Bunnix
I mean I know she's almost 40 but she's still honestly pretty hot and youthful looking. Those mixed genes I guess.
She does a lot of cosplaying.
There is a huge range of Ladybug active wear, I guess she bought one of those and used it for cosplaying. I see tons of ads but never saw anyone wearing it IRL.
I'd be quite surprised if you went to the pool or beach an didn't see at least one red and black polka dot bikini or one piece swimsuit before summer's end.
CAT NOIR SAVES!
Lila needs someone to smack her across the face.
If it isn't Chloe, or Marinette, I hope it's her biological mother!
Nothing I would love to see more than the downfall of Lila.
so, how come marinette is allowed to bug and put a two-way mirror in the girl's toilet but when I do it everybody throws a fit?
Because you don't live in a cartoon world.
I just think the show's version of Paris doesn't arrest anyone for anything.
Just stick to playing guitar, and inventing Rock and Roll music, Charles.
a ladybug theme park where you get to have sex with any character you want in any scenario. thoughts?
Let's hope we get more Ondine in Season 6!
She and Kim should get as much time as Alya and Nino, IMHO!
This is a confusing physique.
Not if you're a swimmer it isn't.
>skinny midsection big breasts
anon this is how a woman is suppose to look
Swimmers actually look like that. It's precise.
she probably pegs Kim
>kim
Yeah, dont put your money on it. He is The butthole Straight Guy, most of the fandom(aka fat tumblr girls) hates him now more than Lila apparently.
I don't think Kim is deliberately an butthole.
He's just a dumb jock who doesn't know any better.
(Many such cases)
Maybe Ondine will set him straight, and he'll change.
Anybody have a link to the short lived Sabrina thread that was posted earlier today?
I can't seem to find it.
= https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/137475975
is the webm anon here?
Sadly WEBM Anon passed away a while back.
there is a new one from last thread that was offering to do webms.
?
They had an anon show up making fricktons of webms just when they stopped getting made in MLB threads
Could be coincidence but I guess it's my headcanon
Still wondering where to get the high quality episodes from. Not all episodes have teh same quality, even if in the same resolution.
I unironically think he fricked off the PAW Patrol threads
i can make webm
Thanks for the link.
Shame the thread didn't last.
watching Old episodes and it's become Clear that Lila always specifically targets Adrichat specifically in some way. In onichan, volpina, Revelation. gives me the vibe that she wants to manipulate him specifically. Not sure what is giving me that impression. Anyone else feel that way?
She's a psychopath, and she wants to get back at Marinette/Ladybug in anyway she can, and Adrien is the key.
Marinette calls her out on her lies, and Ladybug totally humiliated her in front of Adrien.
Psychopaths don't like having their lies exposed, and those who expose their lies become the psychopath's sworn enemy.
It just seems even more so with him than ladybug. I’m guessing Lila will try to separate them next season.
I'm thinking that Adrien will get sick of Lila's shit like he got sick of Chloe's shit, and Lila will try to destroy him, like he's a male Marinette/Ladybug.
ladybug boobies
Need this in 1080
need ep numbers and/or timecode
>Lila is a psychopath
I hate when Cinemaphile diagnose mental disorders they clearly know nothing about
Yeah, she is a sociopath.
No she isn't anything. She's a child and can't be classified as anything
Children don't do half of the shit she does in show.
At worst she can get misconduct. Professionals understand children going through puberty have hormone imbalances and are in a constant state of Flux in personality. She reminds me of a certain fire princess who we don't know what inner troubles she has and could be holding a mask covering pain which must be forgiven for
Oh I see, you're just trolling and trying to get a rise out of people then.
No I genuinely believe there is good in people like this. We have come so far in storytelling where we have evolved beyond one note villains. I'm sure she has some sort of past that will validate why she is this way currently
>we have evolved beyond one note villains
And yet we have characters like Chloe and Bob
Chloe had a great arc which made her into the hero she was supposed to be only to be reversed because the creator had a hateboner for her.
Was you parent a teenager? No? Then you have no business labeling her as such. Yes if she was 30 years old and treating people like this she would be under that definition a psychopath but her mind is malleable enough she cannot be classified as such
>Yes if she was 30 years old and treating people like this she would be under that definition a psychopath but her mind is malleable enough she cannot be classified as such
Lila very well could be. The last episode made it pretty likely she's very teenage looking without her wig and make up disguise.
Until we get proper confirmation I am holding out
Did you even copy nd paste the link provided?
No?
Then you're full of shit, and so are your shit filled excuses.
How about this one by an accredited university? This nullifies any argument you have.
https://modlab.yale.edu/news/there-are-no-child-psychopaths-because-we-cant-diagnose-them-yet-vice#:~:text=%E2%80%9CIt's%20basically%20a%20response%20to,on%20neuroimaging%20and%20genetic%20analysis.
>yale
>accredited university
lmao
I'm sorry it's not an esteemed shitposting degree from the University of Asspulls
C'mon anon you just sound desperate at this point
Aren't most American presidents come from Yale?
>Aren't most American presidents come from Yale
found the yale student
>Can't diagnose them yet
Well, I guess children can't have depression either now lol
Bitchslap them and they're good to go.
There just isn't enough research and data to support any of your claims. Even the ones in favor of your argument come with warning signs of lack of evidence
https://psychopathyis.org/learn-the-signs/
There's more than enough
The idea that something doesn't exist because you cannot detect it, is just another reminder that psychology is not and will never be real science.
Freckles!
Enjoy some more!
You do know that this study was rejected an debunked by the international psychiatric community, and by noted practicing child psychologists, right?
Next you'll be telling us that there's no such thing as child autism, or child bi-polar disorder.
Sure, buddy. Nie get some pills.
Leaks and older scripts, which we already discussed proved that no one planned any Redemption ever
>older scripts
Did they even have a Chloe-like character?
So Chloe went through some transition. Initially, she was meant to be Marinette's friend alongside Alya (pic related). Then they slightly altered her concept design (curlier hair, sharper eyes, pants) and gave her the mean girl persona, forming a trio with Sabrina (who was different than the one we got) and Alyx. Also the 3 of them were supposed to be Miraculous Users called the Bugettes. Chloe was always the Bee, Sabrina Firefly, Alyx Grasshopper. Marinette was either fighting them or was a team with her bullies kek
No, she wasn't. You have original bible from 2012 on Artbookwiki and Chloe Denalorac, was Marinette's bully and a villain. Even on your picture. Villains can't smile? They were never friends
Bullshit, they would not waste time to have Chloe go through those changes and turn at the last minute. If anything it made Marinette look worse for not trusting her
And they did. Period. You obviously know better what was in Thomas mind when he wrote Malediktator?
Hi Thomas. You're still a fricking hack
That makes 0 sense in storytelling why would you build someone up to knock them down?
If you actually look back at that whole arc. Chloe never truly changes only shows glimpses of changing who she is. It’s inside and it’s there but ultimately her greed for the miraculous and to have status with LB just makes her double down on her worst habits. It’s truly a tragedy but it’s not uncommon in life seeing people double down on bad tendencies.
Yeah I don't know. Nothing about it is really portrayed as a tragedy, just several characters saying Chloe is just naturally the worst person in existence and nobody could have helped her and they were foolish to not have given up on her years ago.
And then she gets kicked off the show. And would have had her own father reject her and decide another girl that's not actually related to him is his real daughter and kick her to the curb if the production staff didn't decide to defy Astruc somewhere down the pipeline.
They built up a whole season around it. It didn’t come outta left field at all. I hate season 3 the most but it was pretty clear that was the route Chloe was taking. They manage to put it in several episodes so you can’t deny it. I was once a Chloe gay like you that hated Astruc for his choices with Chloe and I still kinda wish she did reform, but looking back again in the show my earlier point still stands, she never fully reformed as a person. I like Chloe but I’m not gunna deny what’s in show cannon for a character I’m more than fine with in her role as a huge petty b***h which suits her just fine.
Also can’t speak for Astruc but I understand why they cut that scene would have been a terrible look.
I'm not denying they set up her fall, I just don't think it was intended to be a tragic move. It seemed more like an audience troll than anything, and while them making her even more of a b***h post season 3 might potentially have been the original plan it's pretty clear from Astruc's frequent twitter fights back then that he was mad people liked her so you could definitely argue they were playing her up worse to spite those people.
Whatever, I've pretty much given up on any kind of character variation in this show as they're either a generically nice person who thinks Marinette is the greatest, or an incarnation of the devil with no middle ground. Maybe with the inevitable reboot in 20 years written by someone else they'll finally give me the show I want. Too bad I'll be either an old man or dead by then.
The whole thing too led to a scene where Chloe and LB stared daggers at one another both having regret but doubling down on their decisions with Chloe in tears running away. I don’t see how that’s not tragic considering everything Chloe has done. Astruc being a moron on twitter is not your excuse to be a bad faith actor that doesn’t understand a simple message. No character even denied their miraculous would have done what Chloe did. Her response was to go and take over the entire city putting everyone at risk yet again because she couldn’t get what she wanted. That’s not inconsistent at all, given what we knew about her up till that point.
Your headcannon about Astruc is pretty fricking stupid considering we now have the Bible to show us this was the plan for years before it came out lmao. You honestly think they had time to spite nobodies on twitter when s2 ended and s3 began. Come on anon.
As to your last point I’ll see you in the next thread for the next episode. If you haven’t given up on this show already no reason to believe you will now. We got 4 more seasons Greek it buddy! Strap in!
>If you haven’t given up on this show already no reason to believe you will now.
I'm here because I like henshin hero shows, and this is one of the few not set in Japan (though Japan would probably do a better job honestly) so I'm here for the occasionally good hero scene. I just fast foward past all the Marinette Love ship nonsense though, I'm way done with that.
I’m sort of the same way. Though I specifically go to the scenes with cat noir specifically. I’ve watched derision several times just to get to the point where LB chases around CN. That’s why I hate S3 so much it has the least adrichat in it.
I big on mechanic and costume designs and fight scenes. There are many many shows that are total crap I've put up with just because I like the designs or animation in it. Of course I'd like them to be up to my standards too, but rarely they are and I wasn't able to break into the business myself to just make my own shows I want to see.
So I'll just hate watch I guess. Maybe in a few decades we'll have AI designed custom content and never have to deal with stupid creators ever again.
Never understood hate watching. Rather just watch something I’d enjoy than be a part of a fandom that I hate. I get enough enjoyment out of this show, though I do skip scenes from older episodes just to get to the scenes I like.
Like I said, I skip through it to get to the superhero parts, because I like Henshin Heroes and it's a pretty limited selection outside Japan. But I hate everything else about the show.
That’s actually pretty interesting. I can see how’d you hate that they are stuck on the relationships as opposed to the fighting. Maybe next season you’ll have more luck with the soft reboot
>You honestly think they had time to spite nobodies on twitter when s2 ended and s3 began
They definitely did between season 3 and season 4 and 5. I refuse to believe everything Chloe since then wasn't out of spite. They were never that blatant and in your face about it as they were afterwards. Astruc would absolutely be that salty, he freaking self inserted himself into an episode to go on about how nobody appreciates him.
That doesn’t make sense since her true heel turn was at the end of 3. What you’re stating now is your anger in your head cannon coming true. Many such cases Sad!
I can tell by your typing you are that fricking frog on Reddit who does nothing but suck fatass Astruc's wiener. have a nice day, your opinion is not welcome here.
Lmao cope harder
If Thomas actually did that I’d genuinely and truly hate him. He doesn’t even have to be the one to come up with the idea. Just the fact that it existed and he didn’t stop it, would make me irate.
You aren't even denying it.
>they were playing her up worse to spite those people
I see it a little bit different. Yes, Chloe was getting attention fron the fans. But consider this: the show is for kids. So it could be that Thomas (or whoever there is) saw it as a bad precedent as if kids would take her as a role model. So he found the solution in doubling down on highlighting Chloe's bad traits.
Either that or moronic surveys from gloob, that fricked everything up.
That too. Apparently kids really just did not care for Chloe and weren't interested in any kind of complexity. Just mean to Marinette=Bad
While I agree, that this idea
>tragedy but it’s not uncommon in life seeing people double down on bad tendencies
was surely good way of possible Chloe development and indeed it was one of the most plausible outcomes of 2 and 3 seasons, but problem is how show TRIED to do that.
It is utter circus, no consistency, no character building and exploring, no facing consequences and enduring hardships she created herself - just most primitive half-minute scenes, where they fricking change focus from tragedu to fricking comedy. Realisation of this idea in serial is horrendous and it was painful to watch it.
>t. bad b***h Chloe enjoyer
Yea season 3 sucked but Chloe’s doubling down on bad tendencies was pretty obvious and was not nearly the biggest issue, in fact it was pretty consistent with the whole narrative of season 3. again you are ignoring that she never fully changed and that she was always a petty b***h. You glorify that arc is S2 and it was a great arc but she never committed herself to being a good person. All those years I shat on S3 Chloe being evil was a disappointment but not from a writing standpoint.
I also wanted this but good on them honestly for ignoring it because it just sends mixed messages and I’d rather her be totally good or totally bad.
Man, what about "bad b***h Chloe enjoyer" you didn't understand? I despise all redeemcucks and she must never be "good person" especially when in that serial it means being mindless Marinette bootlicker. My problem with Chloe in 4 and especially 5 season was not her " doubling down on bad tendencies", it was her DUMBING down to the point where she is nothing but some minor dumb blonde parody and crude plot device to create easy conflict. And no, I am not saying she must be genius, but deniying her even basic learning from mistakes and involving her into the most dumbass plot twists never is a way to make a good character. Chloe from 2 and 3 s. was maybe sligthly simplified but still a person, nowdays Chloe I see as nothing but a simple npc with its scripted role for pleyer, not capable of any free will.
But she was never smart. Her defining moment of using her head in the show was in S3 when she told an overwhelmed LB to use feathers from a pillow to tickle Sabrina because they were getting freaky cosplaying and she knew her g spot.
I could make a point about various types of intellect, of basic types of learning and how nearly all that isdenied to her, but since I think you also want to oversimplify every character to basic binary qualities just like the creators of the cartoon did, I see no point in continuing this discussion. Good luck.
Anon you are giving her traits that she never had and then getting angry about her not having those traits. That’s on you. Good luck champ.
Still coping
And you are still giving yourself away as the Astric buttlicker that was banned from Reddit 5 times. Your opinion is worthless. Consider yourself ignored. This is the last word. Anything else you say will be ignored. I have won and I am better than you in every way.
>tickle Sabrina
Are you fricking with me? The changes were small but noticeable she learned to trust ladybug even if it meant not being a hero foe a while. Marinette was the one to tell her to frick off because she didn't trust her. Chloe was primed to go on the heroes path but ladybugs bias got in the way
Just like Marinette said at the end of malediktator. Baby steps. She was in the process of changing. Never committed to the path of a hero. She let herself be vulnerable to Marinette and you can feel sorry for her, but that doesn’t excuse what she did and what she would later do. No other character would decide upon not getting a miraculous to side with the big bad to get revenge except Lila who is also a ducking villain. My god it’s like dealing with people who read paradise lost and are convinced the devil is the good guy. She’s a b***h you fool, she always was. She’s capable of kindness but being kind 5 times and then ditching it because you can’t get your way is what a villain does.
You fricking ass you claim she was always a b***h yet you yourself said she was taking baby steps, hell that realistically would be the first step towards redemption which Marinette should have nurtured and let grow. Don't discard her involvement with the outcome because if ladybug would have set aside her petty hate for Chloe and saw she was making a real attempt she could have gained an ally. Also I love paradise lost so don't open that can either
If someone doesn't want to change you can't force them to. You act like Marinette did some great injustice by not allowing chloe to hav e a miraculous. You ignore the fact that's all Chloe wanted out of it. The glory of being a hero with ladybug. She even says it in malediktator when she's by her side. When she is denied that her instinct is to seek revenge and ultimately endanger the whole city yet again. Nothing was stopping her from being a good person except herself. You blame the writers but that's life. Some people just don't change for the better and get worse as time goes on. If you ever went to a high school you'd know this.
It wasn't about her having the miraculous go back and watch the episodes it was ladybugs reluctance to ask for her help even when she was the best person for the job. That is what hurt Chloe more than anything having the one person look up to her completely shit on her. That was worse than anything chloe has done
tf lmao. She already told her no you can't be Queen bee back in miraculer. So she shouldn't have expected to just get it back.
>worse than anything chloe has done
Ladybug getting kagami so she couldn't mack on Adrien was petty but it wasn't malicious. Malicous is what happens when Chloe didn't get what she wanted. You know enslaving all of Paris just cause she can't play pretend hero. Marinette may not be my favorite but she never purposefully shit on chloe unless chloe deserved it.
>I love paradise lost
yea I bet you sided with Satan lmao
If I remember the episode tikki even said she should let Chloe help, fricking tikki recognized Chloe was worthy of holding the miraculous something Marinette is at fault for being blind to. And it was Marinette shitting on Chloe to her face is what caused Chloe to sour on her. Also stop saying she was a pretend hero whether you liked it or not she saved people and that's what matters
>yea I bet you sided with Satan lmao
Satan is an angel. An angel God created. And if God doesn't make mistakes then Satan is not a mistake
Marinette shat on Chloe unless Chloe started it. It’s literally how the dynamic works. Chloe is the aggressor and Marinette defends herself. It’s literally the same formula for all good vs evil in any medium. Bad guy starts shit good guys put a stop to it. What your spewing is headcannon lmao
The whole point of satan in paradise lost was he had everything already but threw it all away to overtake heaven he lied about equality for all angels just so he could sit the throne, got his ass handed and sent to hell. Satan could beg for forgiveness at any time but he doesn’t cause he wanted it, and he paid the price.
Except that's not what happened. Chloe was easing up on Marinette but Marinette clung onto the rivalry because she didn't trust Chloe to truly changed. It's on Marinette to not give Chloe a second chance when Chloe was obviously trying to make an effort.
He didn't have everything though. God made it a point to make man his most perfect creation and Satan who was created as the most beautiful angel so of course he was going to feel the sting when he got the shaft. All he ever wanted was to be God's number 1 but when he realized he could never be that he tore everything down.
LILA APOLOGIST SPOTTED!
Lila's not a child. The last episodes made that clear.
>He still thinks Lila is 14
Dude, she is an eldritch corruptive deceiptful being and I love her.
Honestly yea she could be 1,000 years old for all we know.
Some of us have had psychopathic bosses.
Being that I was raised by a psychopath, and am in therapy because of it, I can say with authority that Lila is the living definition of a PSYCHOPATH.
I know that of which I speak.
I am NOT playing amateur psychologist, but speaking from personal experience!
Copy and paste if you have any doubts..
>https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-a-psychopath-5025217
Wouldn't sociopath be the more accurate term? I was under the impression that psychopaths are the ones who aren't aware of the consequences of their actions, but sociopaths are.
No.
Psychopaths are aware, but they simply don't care.
lila is a prostitute. fact.
It's mindblowing how much hotter she became with short hair.
I liked her green eyes. Oh well.
I like long haired Lila
Lila needs a little lesson on her behaviour
Here's what I don't understand, for a show that's allegedly the most popular cartoon outside of America, and with official models having been leaked months ago, why can I count the number of decent quality pornographic animations of ladybug on one hand, and no masterpieces yet?
>official models having been leaked months ago
Nobody could get those models to work and ultimately gave up.
even so, unofficial models also exist and are available for download, its just baffling that there's so little quality animated porn of such a popular cartoon
Because it's not the most popular in America or Japan and we're the most degenerate
If you're looking for videos, they're out there, but not the best quality.
If you're looking for images, I highly recommend the artwork of Ferjuasi, but do a google search on any and all Rule 34 concerning ML, and CN.
oh I've seen the animations, most of them are crap, a few are alright though
kek
I guess when she's grown tired of bullying Marinette (or no one in the class was giving shit about Chloe anymore), she just went insane. Cute.
All the other kids with a pumped up charms, better run, better run, outrun my bananagun.
god I can't wait for the new episode with chloe her outfit looks so good. Should have made her queen of Paris long ago!
cuddling with ladybug
Anybody have a link to the swimsuit thread?
The search engine is not cooperatiing.
hand holding bugnoir
Not sure if this is based on the leaked models or entirely new models: https://youtu.be/xYg9p91E3DE
I think they're heavily modified models from the mobile game which have already been ported to MMD iirc. Or maybe just the lifted hair and textures on base MMD models...?
Viperion wasn't part of the official show leak sadly, or in Rise of the Sphynx to get the model, and by the textures/flat chest it's a fan re-colour of Chat.
Between the hair, textures, the generic animu face shapes, Tigress' missing gauntlet, etcetc, these are no where near the official show models.
I want to get into this show.
Where do I watch, or even better pirate it?
I wonder what you expect from this show.
You can watch everything from miraculous dot to, if you're not afraid of getting aids from all these adds, or just download episodes there in any available language you prefer.
As for me, I torrent everything. Except new episodes.
I've watched a few episodes and know that it' very episodic and lighthearted. Liked it so far.
superheros are cool and all but the romantic tension and character interactions are what I'm actually looking forward to.
I wanna be up to date and follow the overarching story, but i'm afraid of having to watch like 4 forgettable episodes for one really good one that's relevant to the overall happenings in the story.
>too lazy to watch a 20 minute show
yikes do zoomers really?
No that's not it. I just worried about how much of a time investment it's gonna be if I want to get all the way up to season 5. i'm not a real Cinemaphile denizen, I only visit this board from time to time. Maybe I'll just do a binge day.
i just watched like 6 episodes a day until i got caught up. doesn't take too long.
If you find a good streaming site, just binge one season each day in chronological order.
THAT'S NOT HOW IT'S DONE!
*throws her ball at you*
That was too simple, man.
>very episodic and lighthearted. Liked it so far
The first few seasons, yes
>but the romantic tension and character interactions are what I'm actually looking forward to
Then it sounds like this show might have a chance with you.
>i'm afraid of having to watch like 4 forgettable episodes for one really good one that's relevant to the overall happenings in the story
I don't think the first season has any kind of "overarching story", except The Beginning. The deeper into the story, the less fillers there are. Season 5 has none so far. Wouldn't call it a good thing though. The show has it's problems with the pace
Just in case you haven't figured it out yet....
Adrien is Cat Noir, and Marinette is Ladybug.
In the beginning, Marinette is in love with Adrien, but not Cat Noir, but doesn't know that Cat Noir is Adrien.
Adrien is in love with Ladybug, but only regards Marinette as a good friend. Of course he doesn't realize that Marinette and Ladybug are the same person.
Later on, Marinette decide she loves Cat Noir, while Adrien decides he loves Marinette.
There is a brief period of time when Adrien falls in love with Kagami, and Marinette falls in love with Luka, but these relationships don't last very long.
There have been some radical changes in the show, and Season Five is quite different from when it all first began.
If you like the episodes you have watched so far, I encourage you to keep watching, and look for streaming sites where you can watch all the episodes that have aired so far in chronological order.
It should also be noted that some of these streaming services have all the episodes aired internationally, but since there have been quite a few episodes that haven't aired in either The U.K. or U.S., some of them are not in English, but do have English subtitles.
Keep watching, and have fun.
Seems the movie will be screened by Netflix also in Japan.
Man american hours are interesting here. I wonder why every discussion during this time evolves into chloe arguing (not counting the bible leak threads)
We rarely even discuss Bible leaks anymore. I’d rather discuss the characters in the show rather than being here talking about leaks.
Never implied not talking about the bible leaks (or any leaks for that matter) is a bad thing, it's just for every character there might be, the shit goes on forever when Chloe is mentioned. Is this really the most interesting character there is? Because I went in Miraculous with zero knowledge and I never felt this way.
Granted, I'm not really sure what's there to discuss beside the ending, or evolution/degradation of characters
I want to theorize about S6. What can we expect from the story moving forward now that Paris is changing and the characters are going to new schools
I feel like new characters. Iris Verdi shenanigans at school
Isn’t iris that girl who was a villain on the boat tours in France?
It's a Lila identity like Cerise
What? Is there pics?
Of Lila as Iris? There was a model leak. Blonde with uniform.
The other pic is a gag from the bible about Lila's name
>French Flower Name for First Name
>Italian Color Name for Surname
Sorry I was talking about this girl
She’s the girl from the boat tour I think and her and name came up when I searched Iris
I honestly thought it was just another villain costume for Sabrina.
Dunno. I'm really curious how fights are gonna go now that LB and CN's only weaknesses are gone.
Dunno. I'm waiting for the hero civil war.
The characters will be a little older and, according to the show, older = dumber.
More adult plot lines and at some stage they get married. There could easily be 4 seasons where they are married but still hide their secret identities.
And then babies. Lots of babies.
By god, they'll double the population of Paris if no one stops them
Well, ladybugs do have lots of kids.
Easily done, considering Paris is depicted with a population similar to a small village.
Haven't watched anything other than season 1 but I was hoping for Chloe redemption arc damn.
It was hinted at very early on, but they abandoned that angle.
i'm putting together a team. we will be hijacking the ladybug statue. who's in?
Grab the ones in Santa Monica. They're on the top floor and barely visible from the street and not at all from inside. They'd never notice they went missing.
i jerked off to this :^)
I did not. Marinette is perfect because as she is half asian, she has an immunity to weight gain. This episode would have made her into a disgusting American heffer.
i watch for goofy ladybug
I watch for sexy Alya
her?
And her
imagine using her thigh and/or ass as a silky soft pillow
Cat noir gets to do that all the time now
Cat noir also got with Alya as well
Yes
Isn't this production by SAMG Entertainment from South Korea? I should know, as I like Catch! Teenieping. How come it's here on Cinemaphile?
The whole first season is animated by SAMG. Later, a few Indian animation studios joined "the team", and on the current season, there's one more studio from France, while SAMG does some important episodes or moments,which is not a lot actually.
Or, if that wasn't your implied question, all the models are made by ZAG of France, so it's something along the lines of a french-american-korean-indian(+Brazilian?) co-produced show.
>Chinese mutt
>LadyBUG
lmao
What did anon mean by this?
sex with her thighs
mari must've been dressed sexily and had to transform quickly
Did the whole final leak or is this just made with the leaked models?
people can barely get the models working let alone animate anything
Some get it to work
, though the polygons show. Is the rendering done at different grades?
yeah at most we've managed to load a model but not animate it at all
i hate when they give models stupid proportions
S24 will be up for broadcasting in France in 6 days time. Strangely, S23 comes one week later.
are confrontation and collusion recent? its been like months since i see season 5 so idk if they are new leaks or not
>people do what to photos of ladybug?!
ladybug is almost perfect she just needs a slightly bigger ass. not comically big just a little bit more.
Asians are genetically incapable of having big asses
isn't she a hapa? she can reach ohashi level of ass.