Kurosawa's film is named after a psychological effect, Rashomon. Kurosawa was a better idea tweaker, what with his numerous shakespeare adaptations, but Kobayashi was better at executing his own ideas. Kwaidan is also better than dreams. But kirosawa has more films, so its really hard to compare them.
Kobayashi is better but honestly Kurosawa's samurai films were just japanese capeshit to pay the bills. Kurosawa's better works are the ones set in his contemporary period. High and Low, Stray Dog, The Bad Sleep Well, those were all great.
its hard to think of anything more violent than what they force upon the guy in harakiri. if you think that what happens is just a plot contrivance or something, you really don't get it. if you just want sword fights thats fine, but that's not what the movie is about, despite it being a "samurai film"
That Harakiri is too plot-focused, and unlike you I don't watch Marvel movies.
Harakiri overflows with pathos/catharsis, if it was all plot you'd have no reason to care for the characters.
If you weren't screaming when the father throws out the top knots, idk what you want from a movie.
I said the movie was good and indeed that was a good moment.
i don't watch marvel movies, it was an arbitrary example meant to show how nonsensical your post is. the point is, if you just want sword fights thats fine, but not every movie needs to conform to that standard you've decided on. it's like saying apollo 13 sucks because space movies should only be about aliens, or only about space ship combat. it's an utterly moronic way of viewing movies or anything else.
Sword of doom annoyed me because it doesn't have an ending and has a frick ton of loose ends. I know they planned sequels but guess what, they never happened, kinda ruining the movie
Harakiri overflows with pathos/catharsis, if it was all plot you'd have no reason to care for the characters.
If you weren't screaming when the father throws out the top knots, idk what you want from a movie.
Kurosawa should have made a third movie with mifune as Sanjuro. In the third movie, instead of calling himself Sanjuro, he would call himself with the Japanese word to refer to people who are forty years old and mifune would fight a samurai that really gives him some fighting. A samurai in horned armor or something.
Kurosawa's ran is at par with this. Though i give this one a head's up for originality and flawless execution in black and white.
kobayashi mocks kurosawa in general.
harakiri > seven samurai
samurai rebellion > ran
not even talking about the human condition. kurosawa never did anything like that.
and Kwaidan > Dreams
The Inheritance > I live in fear
but Sanjuro > Inn of Evil
both with Tatsuya btw
Kurosawa's film is named after a psychological effect, Rashomon. Kurosawa was a better idea tweaker, what with his numerous shakespeare adaptations, but Kobayashi was better at executing his own ideas. Kwaidan is also better than dreams. But kirosawa has more films, so its really hard to compare them.
>not even talking about the human condition
No Greater Love is one of the best KobaCHADsi movies and no, I shall not explain myself further
Explain yourself further
>samurai rebellion > ran
no
They’re both good.
No House/Hausu on the list
How's hidden fortress? I've had Ran on 4K for months should I get off my ass and watch that too
The remake is better. Don't @ me
(You)
didnt know there was one. Why is there a remake?
and takashi miike made it? dafuq? why?
Damn, I didn't even realize it wasn't Kurosawa. I just assume every good samurai movie from that time period is a Kurosawa movie.
Lmao, here's another revelation for you then: the Miyamoto Musashi trilogy isn't Kurosawa as well
Just watched this for the first time the other day, every line is loaded.
Kobayashi is better but honestly Kurosawa's samurai films were just japanese capeshit to pay the bills. Kurosawa's better works are the ones set in his contemporary period. High and Low, Stray Dog, The Bad Sleep Well, those were all great.
Ikiru is better than all those three.
>AHHHHH NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST WEAR AN AMERICAN-MADE DRESS AND DO A LITTLE DANCE, I'M GOING INSANE
Harakiri is plothomosexualry just like Kurosawa (albeit still good).
For me, it's Sword of Doom. Samurai films should be pure violence.
Sword of doom kind of reminds me of the one Imamura made about a serial killer starring ken ogata. Vengeance will be mine or something like that.
its hard to think of anything more violent than what they force upon the guy in harakiri. if you think that what happens is just a plot contrivance or something, you really don't get it. if you just want sword fights thats fine, but that's not what the movie is about, despite it being a "samurai film"
>if you just want sword fights thats fine, but that's not what the movie is about
Yes that's exactly what I said in my post.
so what's your point? do you also go into marvel movie threads and say there's not enough sword fights?
That Harakiri is too plot-focused, and unlike you I don't watch Marvel movies.
I said the movie was good and indeed that was a good moment.
i don't watch marvel movies, it was an arbitrary example meant to show how nonsensical your post is. the point is, if you just want sword fights thats fine, but not every movie needs to conform to that standard you've decided on. it's like saying apollo 13 sucks because space movies should only be about aliens, or only about space ship combat. it's an utterly moronic way of viewing movies or anything else.
Sword of doom annoyed me because it doesn't have an ending and has a frick ton of loose ends. I know they planned sequels but guess what, they never happened, kinda ruining the movie
The ending of Sword of Doom is so cool though.
Harakiri overflows with pathos/catharsis, if it was all plot you'd have no reason to care for the characters.
If you weren't screaming when the father throws out the top knots, idk what you want from a movie.
>Samurai films should be pure violence.
That's why I like me Lone Wolf & Cub
man, that dude has a splitting headache
*Plotism
Kurosawa should have made a third movie with mifune as Sanjuro. In the third movie, instead of calling himself Sanjuro, he would call himself with the Japanese word to refer to people who are forty years old and mifune would fight a samurai that really gives him some fighting. A samurai in horned armor or something.
One of my favorites, it's almost perfect in every way. It's just too grim for a rewatch.
I will not participate in this battle of meaningless partisanship. I enjoy the works of both Kurosawa and Kobayashi.
Why was old japanese cinema so good?
>Tatsuya Nakadai
Why is everyone always jerking Ran off but never mentions pic related? It's such a fricking great film holy shit
I fricking loved the Zaitochi and Lone Wolf and Cub films
Agreed. Love 7s, yojimbo, sanjuro, high and low but harakiri is something else.
samurai flicks are just capeshit for boomers
>*Mogs all of kurosawa's samurai films in your path*