>most popular show in the world
>critically acclaimed by anyone that matters
>Neil Gaiman confirmed it was completely accurate the comic
>no season 2 ever
Why didn’t viewers watch it right?
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Accurate to the comics MY ASS
Literally the same costume. Explain in detail why the abstract entity of dream who shapeshifts must be white you tucking chud
>Explain in detail why the abstract entity of dream who shapeshifts must be white
Because it's an adaption of a work wherein he is white?
White goth girls are superior
They no longer exist.
Because they moved on to rockabilly aesthetic you homosexual. Rockabilly, the place where goths and punks go to retire and die. But I'm sure those black goths love ya
Because they want people to like her
What about the curlicue under her left eye?
>left eye
Wait a sec I'm stupid
>Tucking
This is Cinemaphile honey. You can cuss and not get in trouble.
The whole point of her character design is she's a cute teen goth (a primarily white fashion that promotes pale skin verging on sickly) since it's the youthful juxtaposition against Death usually being depicted as a stern old man or scary skeleton and ironically dressing herself in a fashion often seen as being frivolous about mortality. Now she is styled as just another mid-30s black woman with dark lipstick. If they must make her black at least make her a cute teenage black goth.
>you tucking chud
Anyone using chud unironically looks like this
qt goth
Hillary lost
Did comics Death wear a bra? Was it ever visible?
I imagine she always had small breasts, so she wouldn't.
Still hot anyway, black goths are my jam
>Random black spinster wearing mascara
>Black goth
Frick I hate white people so much.
She's not even wearing fricking black lipstick you c**t, they couldn't even be bothered to do the fricking bare minimum.
She does not look bad. But she is not Death of the endless.
She doesn't even dress Goth
>no black lipstick
Absolute shit tier fricking design.
You cant capture this look in a live action adaptation, especially with a person who looks nothing like the character itself, why are morons so willling to look over shit like this.
The showrunners actually gave you a scene with an umbrella wielding Death who speaks Death's line from the comicbook.
It was Jenna Coleman.
tell that to all cosplayers
>You cant capture this look in a live action adaptation
They literally did it in a fan film with zero budget, but okay.
>You cant capture this look in a live action adaptation
>ou cant capture this look in a live action adaptation
Sure you can. You just need to give the series a strong visual style where it doesn't feel out of place, rather than absolutely none whatsoever.
>character design resolves around black on white contrast
>make it brown on brown
They could have at least tried.
Ngl, I never complained, voiced my opinion anywhere, hell I even completely discarded this show from my mind and never said a damn thing about it specifically because of the race swap.
I don’t get mad, I don’t hate, I simply let go and move on, the worst thing you can do to these Show runners looking for angry bait to promote their shows is simply to discard it from your mind.
Racist.
death literally looks asian, dumbass. they could have just as easily put in a japanese woman or half japanese woman and made it work better.
if you think raceswapping fictional characters is meaningful, you're the fricking racist. you're the reason liberals aren't leftists, you don't do shit and think shitty gimmicks are somehow revolutionary. shut the frick up and go read some karl marx
this one thing doesn't bother me. what bothers me is that she didn't have the eye makeup near the corner of her eye. it bothers me that morpheus wasn't pale enough
the problem is that it raceswapped/genderswapped like 4 or 5 characters (i would have been fine with one or two) and the shit wasn't animated.
i didn't watch it (not being animated) is for the same reason i didn't watch live action cowboy bebop
the race thing is just a gimmick being used to get reacts and emojis, it doesn't do shit to improve the material conditions of oppressed people. there are still wars, there is still capitalist bullshit
Death should have been asian and Dream should have been black. Change my mind.
Comics are writing AND art. Did people like the writing? Yes, obviously. But people loved the visual element as well. People loved Death not for being "white" but for being an extremely visually striking character, a surprisingly cute young monochrome punk goth, something highly unexpected for a depiction of "Death."
He replaced that with someone I could walk past in the street without giving her a second look. It's an insult to the artists he worked with to say I'm racist for thinking they dropped the ball with how they depicted Death. We went from something that truly stood out to something utterly forgettable. I close my eyes and cannot remember what Netflix Death looks like.
Desire being nonbinary is canon. Their actor also being nonbinary is who the frick cares he could identify as a deer for all I care.
But the key is, was Desire played by someone, well, DESIRABLE
Not particularly, but they did make me go "that FRICKER" every time I saw them, which seems like the real priority for Desire.
Desire isn't nonbinary. Rather, he/she is in a literal sense, but that's not how the term is used in real life. Desire is a hermaphrodite, and entirely inhuman. You're right about the appearance, though, the actor is just an ugly man in garish makeup.
She is so fricking average. If they are going to spam us with black actors, can't they atleast cast 10s and hotties?
>netflix subscribers are homosexuals
>critics are homosexuals
>Gaiman is a homosexual
I'm not watching that shit no matter how much loved the comic.
this
god gaiman is insufferable what a pretentious prick
Don't forget the people running Netflix.
>want show to have sustained attention
>release it all at once with zero advertising
Also, YouTubers.
>WELCOME TO COMICS DAILY, WHERE WE TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING COMICS!
>only talk about Marvel and maybe DC
TO COMICS DAILY, WHERE WE TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING COMICS!
>>only talk about Marvel and maybe DC
Nah for real, theres a LOT of media adapted from other comics that is basically ignored because it isn't from the two big ones and it sucks.
This. I only watch a few things as 99% of western media nowadays is shit pandering.
Viewer watched right by not actually tuning in as nielsen and other similar watch trackers show.
Last I heard it was not cancelled, just TBC.
i watched for he and i wasnt let down
Oh yeah, that dude was charismatic as frick.
It's so good to not be a waifugay and get to enjoy this.
Imagine being one of the hundreds of kids who picked on him during his childhood not only because obviously his name but because he was probably super annoying too, good for them
>Why didn’t viewers watch it right?
it wasn't made right
>Neil Gaiman confirmed it was completely accurate the comic
You mean the guy getting paid by the production company of said show and has a clear monetary reason to want more seasons said it was good? Wow, I'm really impressed!
Calm the anti Semitic remarks. You cant say that just because he’s israeli
kinda looked bland
didn't really have a goth aesthetic...aside from "black death" John Sandman doesn't have his frizzy Robert Smith hair.
Why is this so important to you?
Are you just bored?
This perpetual search for the next Tortanic has gotten so incredibly tedious and embarrassing.
You homosexuals don't even make jokes anymore, you just kind of repeat the same few phrases over and over in some weird masturbatory ritual
>this entire post
Sandman, the Shit-flix show was a horrible adaption of the existing comic(s). You can use the easy rant of blackwashing or the advanced rant about how the stories were lackluster.
Either way, the show was bad. It shouldn't have been made. Just like the horrible horrible horrible Watchman sequel.
>Just like the horrible horrible horrible Watchman sequel.
Anyone else get the feeling that it was some other, unrelated story--and then some exec said
>"No, we won't take it... Unless you slap Watchmen on it!"
It doesn't feel like it was intended to be a Watchmen series from the get-go; it feels tacked-on for brand recognition.
just watching the poster makes me vomit.
Cinemaphile stopped carrying about Selloutman the Moment he told long time fans to not watch it. apparently to Neil you where supposed to binge watch it, which I am pretty sure Netflix Normies did. Remember that first week? Number one watched show on Netflix in a month after Stranger Things, or any real competition for views, but still up to this day Stranger Things still get more views, and has remained in the to 10 for 17 weeks in a row while Sandman is about to be bumped of it.
Lets face it that audience he was targeting failed him to get him recognized, and the ones that where his fans where thrown out. so he has nothing left now. "Coraline" is about the only thing he didn't frick up cause he had nothing to do with it, American God was a waste of 3 season. He will probably Adapt "Death: The High Cost Of Living" in to some New Netflix show or, Sell out even further to Marvel an adapt "Marvel 1602" what ever the case I not watching anything from him anymore.
>A black actress being hired means he threw away the people that read Sandman!
You're really reaching to make your moronic narrative work.
Why are you so incredibly desperate to be a victim?
>Fake fan Tries to make it about Black people
>Real fans see's, The Corinthian Is Involved from the beginning of the show, The dreaming was all the same unlike the comic where it changed evetime, John Constantine was made female and different from the character, the Dual in Hell was completely altered, they Skip over Dreams Character, they set up the season final for a book 4 adaptation in season of mist.
Totally The faithful adaptation.
>John Constantine was made female and different from the character,
Legal reasons they can't use DC characters
John Dee was an established villain, albeit a pretty minor one. I haven't watched the show though, does he no longer get sent to arkham?
Copyright laws are such a drag
>Slight changes made by the original author
>UNFAITHFUL!
Anyone that complains about this show but doesn't mention Rose's acting is a liar
Why was Lucifer, the most beautiful of God’s angels, so ugly?
couldn't hire david bowie cause he's dead and was too old anyway
couldn't hire discount bowie tilda swinton
so they hired discount tilda swinton
bottom line is if the show was good nobody would care about death being black
I'd care.
a goth waifu was stolen from me
Comic was only good because of visuals, not pretentious writing.
The show room away most beloved visuals and made writing even worse.
It was a downgrade all around.
that's what being successful is Chud
Finding out that your master piece is boring shit no one is actually intrested in seeing most be a gut punch.
>>why?
Because she's not black in the source material.
I don't see why there needs to be any other justification than that.
I look at that OP image and don't see an actress playing Death. So I didn't click play on Netflix.
>Praise us for fricking up the most iconic visuals from the comics
>Neil said Kat Dennings was a perfect Death for Audible series
>https://twitter.com/audible_com/status/1445819207128469504
Oh and Stoya is perfect for Death
Neil cares about Death aesthetic when it comes to:
>Porn stars.
>Young girls at conventions.
Surprised he hasn't been me too'ed.
mumble mumble mumble
Because the visual is a monochrome character that's albino-white with all-black clothing, black hair, and black makeup. It immediately catches the eye. It's the most memorable visual in the comic, more iconic even than Morpheus himself.
There are characters that can be cast with a "Raceswap" without making a difference. You want Rose to be white? Eh, sure, fine, whatever. You want to do that with the character that sticks out precisely because she's got a clash of white and black going on in her design? No, that's stupid as frick.
And it was stupid as frick when they downgraded Deadpool's Domino into a black woman with a patch of vitiligo too. We can make more diverse adaptations without sacrificing great imagery. They're not trying.
I actually didn't mind black domino because the vitiligo was slightly clever. Not only that but she stayed true to her character and the creators didn't blame people for not liking it DUE to domino being black. It just sorta was what it was.
It was a visual downgrade of epic proportions, one of the more absurd examples of film-makers ditching things that are visually striking in favor of things that are "down to earth" (ie forgettable as frick).
well many wild comic book art choices have been scrapped for being more down to earth. Wolverine hasn't worn his blue and yellow in a hot minute because while it is striking and identifiable on a comic page, its cheaper to throw him in a tank top and jacket. The real disappointment of Sandman is that it did no effort to recreate the comic's visuals which was half - 90% of the draw of the comic. Conversely, Domino being super pale with a black spot on her eye was not one of the core draws to deadpool's comics.
No small part of that is that she's only peripherally a Deadpool character. She was more an X-Force character, and her visuals WERE a big draw for that book in its heyday.
Robert Pattison at home and Black Death aren't a draw and killed the hype. If Death was a cute unaturally white goth I'd have binged it.
>complains that a woke author wants his adaption to be woke
You're all so tiring. Go complain about good omens or whatever
Pratchett not having to sign off on the sequel is the one bright spot in Terry's all-too-soon passing.
>death is based on a real person
>death's appearance informs the character
>the actress in the show completely failed at being the death as described by Gaiman, she was in no way the same as comics death in acting or appearance
im glad you are also excited for Ryan Gosling's performance as Black Panther.
>the endless have a visual theme of being pale
>death is specifically supposed to look very similar to dream to signify their closeness
>destruction deliberately breaks the rule because of his unwillingness to be a "real" endless
And making Death different for diversity's sake just ruins all of that.
>most popular show in the world
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Gaiman should've handed the sandman to laika AND selick