>movie starts as an angsty fable about being horny and menstruating.
>ends by telling the audience they *all* have an inner beast
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>movie starts as an angsty fable about being horny and menstruating.
Mei Mei is bae bae.
Yes
Why did this movie make everyone seethe again?
>it made conservative christians pissy
Yeah but stuff like Frollo's Hellfire was a-okay?
I am literally a right wing racist incel chud and I loved this movie. It was basically everything, everywhere, all at once, but, ironically, much more mature
>It was basically everything, everywhere, all at once, but, ironically, much more mature
More mature?
>It was basically everything, everywhere, all at once, but, ironically, much more mature
Impressive. Every word in that sentence was wrong.
they both were about asian american families and therefore were exactly the same
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It showed Asian mothers to be controlling psychopaths. Why would Christians care?
>Why would Christians care?
you'd be surprised. I've found like a LOT of Christian podcasts that talked about the movie, mostly negatively but some positively.
Hellfire is about temptation, what would be the problem with that
Also Disney movies are not my moral barometer, the monopoly it had in America prevented the many flaws of Disney movies from being addressed
Based
They were literally bragging about the panda being a puberty metaphor and people were going to be mad about menstruation, but then they suddenly became quiet upon release because the sexual metaphors were too obvious.
The mother represents sexual traditionalism and generally not letting people become selfish oversexed manchildren.
There really wasn't that much of a controversy. They just racist because she was asian instead of white like Ariel and Rapunzel
Mei doesn't have a bathing suit scene.
But she does have this
SPINNING BIRD KICK
it talks about periods and forming teenage sexuality
I hate it for a few reasons, much like Encanto the director used the protagonist as their Self Insert. That's the thing about modern media. It's not about making fun stories with engaging conflicts all modern media is made as a THERAPY session for the maladjusted defective adults who are making any given comic, movie, cartoon, live action film, etc. Everything about Turning Red screams a shitty chink who is desperately scream "Take that Chinese Mother! I am doing well! I lived the western culture bawd life and I turned out FINE!!! You see me? I'm FINE!!!!" That's what Turning Red oozes.
The other big problem with Turning Red is how shitty and unlikable BOTH Ming and Mei are. I expect a villain to be unlikable by default but when I hate the hero? Well you seriously fricked up. Ming is in every way a stereotype strict chink parent, no charisma. To make her even more unlikable the writers thought Ming threatening to falsely accuse a teenage boy of being a rapist was necessary. Even if that scene was not in the film Ming would still be an unlikable c**t. But hey the scene in question IS in the movie so Ming comes across as worse. Falsely accusing boys of rape is seriously evil. Women who do this even as a mere threat should be beaten to death.
Mei herself is just a typical westernized brat. Given the era the movie is set in she worships the worst parts of western culture like what seems to be the beginning of Hook Up Culture. Girls from Mei's generation were the first wave to get into that shit. And it starts with how Mei lusts after boy bands. And since the movie ends with Ming backing off and allowing Mei to enjoy these things undisturbed it's safe to say that Mei gets away with her terrible behavior that will leave her as a worse off young woman.
Honestly the movie Turning Red can be summarized like this, both sides are shit. The lousy thing is Disney is presenting this film as if the daughter character had a moral victory, but nah.
>much like Encanto the director used the protagonist as their Self Insert
Which director?
Charise Castro Smith?
>Hook Up Culture. Girls from Mei's generation were the first wave to get into that shit
you obviously don't know when the sexual revolution happened in the USA.
>>it made conservative christians pissy
Why?
My friend's son who's also Christian even said they couldn't watch this or Lightyear
well Lightyear has the lesbians so that's banned.
And they probably saw some shit on facebook about Turning Red about how the movie is sexualized and stuff.
Also there are girls dancing and flirting in Turning Red too but only eagle-eyed people see it.
these are the common complaints about the movie
If you shelter your children this much you have no right to complain when the internet picks up your slack
I wonder when this girl was going to learn about menstruation...
Funny, my mom(a black democrat) enjoyed turning red, but stopped watch pic related because she didn't like the idea of them promoting trans kids.
Did you ever figure out why that movie ACTUALLY was rated PG-13?
Its weird to watch gen x adults become stereotypical old bigoted people in real time
>stereotypical old bigoted people
You say that yet if you ask the typical college student in 1984 what they think of trans kids, they would first not understand what you're saying, and would react negativity after you explain it to them. Gen X isn't becoming bigoted, the left is becoming too progressive, and while my mom doesn't completely hate trans adults, there only so much you can push on a person after a certain age.
Rather, it's that transgenderism has so poisoned the well that is left-leaning politics that Gen X radical feminists, simply by sticking to their same principles for four decades, have more in common with conservative Christians than they do the trans cult.
Which makes sense, because third-wave feminist philosophy considers femininity an immutable property to be celebrated and as a weapon against the patriarchy which seeks to suppress female initiative. Nowadays there are a bunch of perverted men who have managed to convince a substantial portion of the population that gender is fluid and sex is arbitrary. They claim the status of women by aping the most superficial characteristics of womanhood when they categorically cannot share the true biological or sociological experience of being a woman. It's men trying to take away the one thing women truly can have all to themselves.
Goddammit, how did things get so bad that the man-hating dykes are making sense?
Based mom against brain washing and chemically castrating children
I liked this movie screw you guys
Giantess Ming
I want her to dom me
We all do though. That doesn't mean you have to let it out, some are better at handling it than others and others are better off keeping it to themselves.
It's just a two-hour animated defense of Onlyfans. Prove me wrong.
it was actually a 90 minute +10 minutes of credits defense of onlyfans.
The mother was hot as frick
You can feel like a woman at any time, chud. Deal with it.
yeah but IWN have a uterus that cramps every month.
Yeah, that does rule! Plus no menopause
it's never about menstrauting, that's just a funny joke at the start so you're caught off-guard by the parents overreacting about that, and then actually knowing what the real situation is when it's shown to them.
Seriously how the frick are you people so stupid
>movie literally talks about periods, but then shifts to something else
>anon 2 hours after that: "wait if this was a metaphor for periods, then this doesn't make sense"
THEY HIT THE PENTAGON! THEY HIT THE FRICKING PENTAGON!
I have an inner Kong waiting to be released.
>movie tries to memoryhole 9/11
unless you are over the age of 30, in which case you are a washed up old hag who must give up your "panda" for the rest of your life
I'm going to type a word starting with E, and despite it describing this film perfectly, the replies to this post will be nothing but variations of "lol so dum," "take your meds" (way ahead of you, by the way) or "go overdose on horse tranquilizers and inhalants under a bridge that's about to flood."
don't get it
Eleutheromania.
I want to worship her feet, both forms
I just don't like that they try to use the Panda as being both literal, metaphorical, and mold the metaphor to whatever they need at the time.
Is the Panda about puberty or about your inner beast? Those are two different things even if they can have overlap. If she's merchandising the Panda, is it literal? Or is it a metaphor for selling her body? The fact that she goes, "My Panda, my choice" which is a phrase people ONLY use for, "My body, my choice" makes it sound like the metaphor is about her selling her body. But it can't be, because she never learns that's wrong to do, and a kids movie wouldn't reward a character for basically being a prostitute. But she only feels confident in dancing crudely when spending time as the Panda, so maybe it is?
Much like the "fusion" metaphor in Steven Universe, they write themselves into a corner where when you think about what it's supposed to represent and how they execute it, the "metaphor" becomes a little fricked up even though it didn't start out that way.
>being both literal, metaphorical, and mold the metaphor to whatever they need at the time.
almost like metaphors are a mistake
>But it can't be, because she never learns that's wrong to do
Its not wrong to do at all. It is wrong to structure society in a way that encourages and enables it economically though. Some exhibitionist wants to monetize being hot, thats fine, the problem is when youve got poor and debt ridden people desperate for cash and sex work can potentially pay well. It can also potentially cost you your reputation or your life.
Either way I don't think Domee Shi intended the Panda photo sessions to be like onlyfans...
It's more like Disneyland Petting Zoo than onlyfans.
Well on that we're agreed
>Its not wrong to do at all.
It's wrong when the character involved in the metaphor is 14.
It’s both scary and frustrating how the designs on par with that Grub hub commercial have such a fanbase. Especially the creepy loud house tier part.
The message was unironically "just be yourself," don't be embarrassed by your quirks.
Yeah but that's a very common message.
If they kept the focus on the pussy bleeding stuff that would have been... unique.
I want to cuddle with Miriam!
I want to cuddle with Mei!
I want to kiss Miriam!
I want to kiss Mei!
D-do you think they'll let me...?
You're like 43, aren't you?
and Mei and company are 33 in current year
I'm roughly the same age as they'd be in current year
I want to frick May in all her forms
>They were the first to get into hook up culture.
OK what do you define as hook up culture?
People were getting laid casually in the 70s and 80s...
I mean even before that too, but it was more accepted then
>rich latch key kids: The Movie
So you're against kids having the freedom to do shit?
Also Mei was the opposite of a Latchkey kid in the beginning.
You sound deranged but also that was still all happening prior to the term "hook up culture" which btw was a name invented by weird gen Xers and millenials who had articles to write
My biggest problem with the movie is that it didn't feel like Mei's story. It felt like Ming's.
She's the one who goes through the big character arc. Mei learns everything on her own, overcomes her Hulk power really fast, has loving family and friends, and is so well-liked that even the bully who she almost killed ends up being her friend in the end. Mei didn't feel like she struggled to go through an emotional journey-- but Ming did.
IDK Mei did have to face like two public humiliations in a row...
Sure and while those would be traumatic at that age it works out in the end.