I agree. I couldn't believe just how bad Alien 3 was. Right from the opening where they killed off the other two survivors from the previous films I knew it would be rough. It had none of the anxiety inducing scenes of the previous two and didn't have that lonely remote feeling of space that the original did so well.
Peopel who defend Resurrection are just being contrarian. No doubt in my mind. I see no reason for anyone to like anything about this movie. Maybe you enjoy laughing at it because it's so god awful, but that's the most enjoyment you can ever get out of it. One of the worst films I've ever seen. Ugly, terrible script, terrible dialogue, terrible acting, terrible cast, terrible, terrible, terrible. Terrible throughout. Prometheus is interesting despite its glaring flaws and Alien 3 is at least a semi-functional film with a half decent aesthetic vision. Resurrection is just embarrassing to watch.
Halloween Kills was so fricking bad I laughed through most of it. My friend and I had a fun time but it was more like MST3K than an honest horror movie.
Because it looked like something out of jurassic park instead of godzilla. Redesigns that drastic is basically telling fans you don't give a shit about the character.
Because it looked like something out of jurassic park instead of godzilla. Redesigns that drastic is basically telling fans you don't give a shit about the character.
its just an embarrassing film.
just Hollywood sticking its nose up at the japanese namesake, thinking they can make a better, more 'realistic,' more cinematic godzilla! they said "hold my beer" and then proceeded to deliver crappy jurassic park with shitty very much dated computer effects and mind-numbing hollywood bottom of the barrel plot.
the movie was neither good, nor appealed to people who actually liked godzilla.
Well obviously fans hated it because it was so inferior but it's curous to see that the casual audience were just so indifferent. It left barely any impression and before it released Devlin talked about rewriting Godzilla, creating a masterpiece etc. the Emmerich/Devlin duo was considered the next big thing after Spierlberg. They were connected with pretty much every big project, they were the kings and then Godzilla happened and they began their decline into bargain bin status.
>The director of Godzilla 1998 is a literal homosexual from France....... >The studio literally asked him if he could be more faithful
>"just stick tp the source, ok?" >"sacre bleu, amerrrrican swine! I don't go to yourr house and tell you how to frick yourr wife! I bet she is fat and ugly like your kids!" *spits on his shoe*
actual conversation between the studio and the director
The French gay director literally refused to do Godzilla 2 times. Studio asked a third time. And he did it just to change Godzilla since he said original Godzilla was cheesy.
He literally accepted the 3rd time to frick the Godzilla design
Because it looked like something out of jurassic park instead of godzilla. Redesigns that drastic is basically telling fans you don't give a shit about the character.
The arms and legs don't look right on a dinosaur and I can't explain why. It might sound weird, but it looks more like a man in a suit than any of the Japanese designs.
Ruined in what way? It gave us some funny moments as it made it's way to Japan as Zilla and the cartoon series was neat.
I think most people look at it as a terrible godzilla but "alright" as a general Kaiju. Still sucks as a movie.
i assume your bating.
first two rebuilds feel like an intentional effort on anno's part to make this south park joke fully realized.
a soulless rehash of the original series, with edits that make no sense.
the third rebuild is literal nonsense and legitimately made me question whether anno had lost touch as a director. it throws out all established plot and replaces it with another that outright refuses to explain itself and keeps on adding nonsensical anime tropes and melodrama over stakes we aren't even told anything about. The entire thing feels like a deliberate attempt to make eva fit the meme of being absolutely meaningless style over substance.
the fourth episode on the other hand actually makes an effort to provide coherent explanation to the setting, actually concludes the series all the while being an entirely unique addition to the overall story.
The only criticism i've seen of it comes purely from incel crybabies who hate the ending message.
after simply hearing about the concept of the rebuilds, my reaction was >who the frick would want to watch that?
then when I saw the people who watch them, I realized Anno was just cynically extracting money from morons, honestly more power to him.
>fans argue for 20 years about whether red hair or blue hair waifu should win the mc >they both lose and the director's wife's self insert wins instead
absolute god-tier trolling that broke Cinemaphile for weeks
Western design is way better than the Jap one.
Only reason why people give a frick about the Nip version is due to nostalgia.
If Zilla design had been the default and US came up with the fat frick, everyone would have laughed their ass off.
>TFA irked a few people but TLJ set the universe on fire.
Because everyone was high on the copium that the Sequel Trilogy had a lot of potential, which it kinda did. TLJ basically did away with that delusion.
The prequels should have started with Anakin as a "young man" already when he meets Obi Wan as he stated in the original, instead of retconning him into a little kid so they can drag it out longer.
absolutely, him being an ex-slave is something you can do as a backstory and if needed flashback moment
need to show he's been racing since he was a child? Anakin's a bit of a rebel jedi who participates in underground races on Coruscant, and mentions he's being doing this for ages
Meeting Padme? Have that whole bodyguard thing how they meet in the first place, if you're going to do a bodyguard romance anyway no need to have them meet in the dumbest fashion
Hell you can do a lot of Ep 1 but with Anakin in the role of Obi-Wan as Qui-Gon's padawan, then Obi-Wan as Qui-Gon's previous padawan now jedi knight who goes along with them
set up a bit of an older brother dynamic between the 2, somewhat of a sibling rivalry that throughout the movie, as they rely on each other more turns into genuine friendship
Then their mutual mentor and father figure dies, they beat maul up together, have Anakin save Obi-Wan's life for some juicy future drama
The whole effort was a moronic attempt to appeal to children and sell them toys, full stop.
It had poorly written edgy melodrama to appeal to the adult low IQ children who still wanted more after Return of the Jedi.
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Anonymous
you can still have melodrama, it's star wars after all
and you are making the origin of darth vader
just do the normal thing and have the first movie be a fun space opera adventure that just happens to have future darth vader as one of it's main characters
no need to get all open about it immediately, after all, you've got 2 movies left to go more into his darkness, sprinkle the seeds but don't let them germinate yet
Really a lot of fun things to be done with starting out Anakin older, the whole romance with Padme could have been done much much better that way
She's a young reformer senator who's made a lot of enemies, he's a more rebellious padawan soon to be jedi, perfect match already
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Even as a kid the age difference with Padme weirded me out, like if they had both been adults when they first met I wouldn't have cared about her being older, but in the first movie he's a dumb little kid and she's an adult, I just couldn't get behind that romance at all after that
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Anonymous
oh absolutely, if they're both in their 20's it's a lot less creepy even if he's 21 and she's 28
especially if you put story emphasis on how she's very young for a senator
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Anonymous
wasnt she supposed to be like 14 in TPM tho?
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Anonymous
and he's what, 8?
14 is when girls already obsess over boy bands
8 is when girls are icky
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Anonymous
hes like 10. i dont think its that weird they got together when he was like 20 and she was 24 or whatever.
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Anonymous
The actress was 18 and looked 20, it doesn't matter what age they say the character was.
I just found it off-putting, in the first movie she is like a big sister figure to him and in the second one after a timeskip he's trying to frick her. It would be different if they had only met briefly in the first one, but they spend significant time together while he is just a little kid, not even a teenager. The atrocious acting and script didn't help either.
Jurassic Park 3 >spinosaurus aegypticus breaking one of the strongest necks in nature with fish-eating croco-jaws
Christ, I'm still fricking seething to this day.
>writers decide to create a threat bigger than the t-rex >showcase this by having it kills the the t-rex
It's basic writing. Only fanboys got mad at it.
i never seen anything related to Godzilla other than the Hollywood 1998 movie and it's was glorious. I've some pics on Google of "Godzilla original design" and it's goofy as frick, it looks like an obese man in a suit made of shit.
how anyone can defend this?
This is the movie that shellshocked the people who made it to the point it's still an open wound. The producer admitted that they fricked it up, the guy who in some shots portrayed Godzilla admitted that everyone knew they were making shit, fans, the public, the critics. It was a fricking failure on every front. It was a total defeat. The only win it managed to get was the cartoon but that was made by people who actually cared.
and honestly the cartoon would have done pretty well if it hadn't been named Godzilla
Like, Zilla Jr. works pretty well as his own Kaiju, design is great and he's got a bit of a niche as a weaker but more agile Kaiju who outsmarts rather than overpowers
wait, so was there seriously a guy in a zilla suit for parts of this movie? that's mindblowing to me if so, I've watched godzilla 98 like a dozen times and I always thought zilla was 100% CGI in every scene
This is the guy who publically apologized to Nakajima and admitted that they knew the movie was shit. They refers to everyone except Emmerich and maybe Devlin. But Devlin is a pathological liar so it's impossible to know what he thinks.
I just treat it like a campy fun late-90s creature feature, along the lines of something like Deep Rising and ignore the title, and I've got a big soft spot for that movie. 4K/HDR really improves the dated effects too.
>be Hollywood exec >see Godzilla's potential >the japs' technological limitations keep them from making top shelf kino with the IP >givemethat.gif >well this looks kinda dumb, lemme just *westernizes the shit out of it, making it look like an actual monster that could crawl out of the ground and frick you up* >makes it grounded so none of that laserbeam bullshit >adds intricate human plot around it so now the movie's only focus isn't on a stupid reptile wrecking skyscrapers >adds Jean Reno for extra kino >credits rolling while a Kashmir remix plays
You morons are ungrateful as frick. This is pure monster kino. Unironically one of the greatest filters of all time.
Loved this movie when it came out. Loved the Taco Bell crossover. It was kino. Didn't find out til I found this website circa 2006 that everyone hates it.
>Didn't find out til I found this website circa 2006 that everyone hates it.
For me it was the Kaijuphile forums where they were calling him GINO (Godzilla In Name Only) which was a stupid name anyway
They are mediocre compared to the LotR trilogy, but otherwise still slightly better-than-average blockbusters
Would have probably been a lot better received if it was just one movie instead of being dragged out into a bloated trilogy though, that was their first and biggest mistake.
They are mediocre compared to the LotR trilogy, but otherwise still slightly better-than-average blockbusters
Would have probably been a lot better received if it was just one movie instead of being dragged out into a bloated trilogy though, that was their first and biggest mistake.
There is a Tolkien edit out there that pulls all three into one movie. Other than the expected continuity errors with so much editing down, it is genuinely great.
[Spoiler] And it is still one of the better Halloween films (bar is very low) [/spoiler]
it's not even close no matter how low the bar is. here's your (YOU). the real answer is Prometheus.
Is Prometheus worse than Alien 4?
Yes. Even Alien 3 is worse than Alien 4, and I’m tired of pretending it’s not.
I agree. I couldn't believe just how bad Alien 3 was. Right from the opening where they killed off the other two survivors from the previous films I knew it would be rough. It had none of the anxiety inducing scenes of the previous two and didn't have that lonely remote feeling of space that the original did so well.
Yes.
Peopel who defend Resurrection are just being contrarian. No doubt in my mind. I see no reason for anyone to like anything about this movie. Maybe you enjoy laughing at it because it's so god awful, but that's the most enjoyment you can ever get out of it. One of the worst films I've ever seen. Ugly, terrible script, terrible dialogue, terrible acting, terrible cast, terrible, terrible, terrible. Terrible throughout. Prometheus is interesting despite its glaring flaws and Alien 3 is at least a semi-functional film with a half decent aesthetic vision. Resurrection is just embarrassing to watch.
Frick no
EVIL DIES TONIGHT
>it is still one of the better Halloween films
It's one of the best Halloween films because it betrays everything from the franchise
Halloween Kills was so fricking bad I laughed through most of it. My friend and I had a fun time but it was more like MST3K than an honest horror movie.
I really don't get why they hate the Tyrraniguanasaurus design so much.
Because it looked like something out of jurassic park instead of godzilla. Redesigns that drastic is basically telling fans you don't give a shit about the character.
Nobody outside of Japan gives a shit about Godzilla.
So then don’t call it Godzilla moron
Who fricking cares. You have fifty movies with the old design
No one disliked the design. We disliked that it was a shitty movie.
case in point, compare the reception of the movie vs its cartoon spinoff
hell yeah
Exactly. Nobody wants to see a love story. And Mathew Brodrick shouldn't be in anything but a goofy comedy
its just an embarrassing film.
just Hollywood sticking its nose up at the japanese namesake, thinking they can make a better, more 'realistic,' more cinematic godzilla! they said "hold my beer" and then proceeded to deliver crappy jurassic park with shitty very much dated computer effects and mind-numbing hollywood bottom of the barrel plot.
the movie was neither good, nor appealed to people who actually liked godzilla.
Well obviously fans hated it because it was so inferior but it's curous to see that the casual audience were just so indifferent. It left barely any impression and before it released Devlin talked about rewriting Godzilla, creating a masterpiece etc. the Emmerich/Devlin duo was considered the next big thing after Spierlberg. They were connected with pretty much every big project, they were the kings and then Godzilla happened and they began their decline into bargain bin status.
The 2014 Godzilla was also dull trash, Warner Brothers can literally ruin anything for any fanbase. Hell they ruined Pikachu.
The director of Godzilla 1998 is a literal homosexual from France.......
The studio literally asked him if he could be more faithful
>The director of Godzilla 1998 is a literal homosexual from France.......
>The studio literally asked him if he could be more faithful
>"just stick tp the source, ok?"
>"sacre bleu, amerrrrican swine! I don't go to yourr house and tell you how to frick yourr wife! I bet she is fat and ugly like your kids!" *spits on his shoe*
actual conversation between the studio and the director
The French gay director literally refused to do Godzilla 2 times. Studio asked a third time. And he did it just to change Godzilla since he said original Godzilla was cheesy.
He literally accepted the 3rd time to frick the Godzilla design
The arms and legs don't look right on a dinosaur and I can't explain why. It might sound weird, but it looks more like a man in a suit than any of the Japanese designs.
Ruined in what way? It gave us some funny moments as it made it's way to Japan as Zilla and the cartoon series was neat.
I think most people look at it as a terrible godzilla but "alright" as a general Kaiju. Still sucks as a movie.
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
Surely the obvious answer is the last jedi. I could never have conceived that man could seethe so before that film came out.
Zilla's design was pretty cool but he was in it for like 10 minutes, doesn't breathe fire and gets killed by the military.
The hype around it was a lot better
Whatever the last Eva Rebuild was called.
the last eva rebuild was regarded as okay, the ones people hate are the other three. the third one in particular.
The 3rd is the best of the rebuilds. Thrice upon a time is Anno pissing on eva fans and telling them its raining.
i assume your bating.
first two rebuilds feel like an intentional effort on anno's part to make this south park joke fully realized.
a soulless rehash of the original series, with edits that make no sense.
the third rebuild is literal nonsense and legitimately made me question whether anno had lost touch as a director. it throws out all established plot and replaces it with another that outright refuses to explain itself and keeps on adding nonsensical anime tropes and melodrama over stakes we aren't even told anything about. The entire thing feels like a deliberate attempt to make eva fit the meme of being absolutely meaningless style over substance.
the fourth episode on the other hand actually makes an effort to provide coherent explanation to the setting, actually concludes the series all the while being an entirely unique addition to the overall story.
The only criticism i've seen of it comes purely from incel crybabies who hate the ending message.
after simply hearing about the concept of the rebuilds, my reaction was
>who the frick would want to watch that?
then when I saw the people who watch them, I realized Anno was just cynically extracting money from morons, honestly more power to him.
>fans argue for 20 years about whether red hair or blue hair waifu should win the mc
>they both lose and the director's wife's self insert wins instead
absolute god-tier trolling that broke Cinemaphile for weeks
I liked it
I did not.
>just watch our 2 dollar shitty kaiju flick, lmao
japs can seethe all they want but godzilla 98 is way better than the shit they produced
Western design is way better than the Jap one.
Only reason why people give a frick about the Nip version is due to nostalgia.
If Zilla design had been the default and US came up with the fat frick, everyone would have laughed their ass off.
>him, his
Godzilla is actually sexy female
>flying Leia
Came here to say TLJ. TFA irked a few people but TLJ set the universe on fire.
>TFA irked a few people but TLJ set the universe on fire.
Because everyone was high on the copium that the Sequel Trilogy had a lot of potential, which it kinda did. TLJ basically did away with that delusion.
Which is funny because TLJ was a much better movie then TFA.
kys Rian
I remember the force awakens ending and just thinking to myself “wow, no luke skywalker, huh”
Underrated scene, only plebs dislike it.
I love how anons never bothered to post the cleaned up blu-ray version of nuSW webms
To this day this movie is such a slog to get through when watching the series
I could never stand Natalie Portman's dull monotone in this.
It's not regal, it's fricking awful.
Episode 2 is many orders of magnitude worse
Ep3 should and could have easily been split up into 3 movies and would have been a better trilogy for it
at the very least, at minimum, movie 1 should have been the one where Anakin and Obi-Wan have their full on bromance moment
The prequels should have started with Anakin as a "young man" already when he meets Obi Wan as he stated in the original, instead of retconning him into a little kid so they can drag it out longer.
absolutely, him being an ex-slave is something you can do as a backstory and if needed flashback moment
need to show he's been racing since he was a child? Anakin's a bit of a rebel jedi who participates in underground races on Coruscant, and mentions he's being doing this for ages
Meeting Padme? Have that whole bodyguard thing how they meet in the first place, if you're going to do a bodyguard romance anyway no need to have them meet in the dumbest fashion
Hell you can do a lot of Ep 1 but with Anakin in the role of Obi-Wan as Qui-Gon's padawan, then Obi-Wan as Qui-Gon's previous padawan now jedi knight who goes along with them
set up a bit of an older brother dynamic between the 2, somewhat of a sibling rivalry that throughout the movie, as they rely on each other more turns into genuine friendship
Then their mutual mentor and father figure dies, they beat maul up together, have Anakin save Obi-Wan's life for some juicy future drama
shit writes itself
The whole effort was a moronic attempt to appeal to children and sell them toys, full stop.
It had poorly written edgy melodrama to appeal to the adult low IQ children who still wanted more after Return of the Jedi.
you can still have melodrama, it's star wars after all
and you are making the origin of darth vader
just do the normal thing and have the first movie be a fun space opera adventure that just happens to have future darth vader as one of it's main characters
no need to get all open about it immediately, after all, you've got 2 movies left to go more into his darkness, sprinkle the seeds but don't let them germinate yet
Really a lot of fun things to be done with starting out Anakin older, the whole romance with Padme could have been done much much better that way
She's a young reformer senator who's made a lot of enemies, he's a more rebellious padawan soon to be jedi, perfect match already
Even as a kid the age difference with Padme weirded me out, like if they had both been adults when they first met I wouldn't have cared about her being older, but in the first movie he's a dumb little kid and she's an adult, I just couldn't get behind that romance at all after that
oh absolutely, if they're both in their 20's it's a lot less creepy even if he's 21 and she's 28
especially if you put story emphasis on how she's very young for a senator
wasnt she supposed to be like 14 in TPM tho?
and he's what, 8?
14 is when girls already obsess over boy bands
8 is when girls are icky
hes like 10. i dont think its that weird they got together when he was like 20 and she was 24 or whatever.
The actress was 18 and looked 20, it doesn't matter what age they say the character was.
I just found it off-putting, in the first movie she is like a big sister figure to him and in the second one after a timeskip he's trying to frick her. It would be different if they had only met briefly in the first one, but they spend significant time together while he is just a little kid, not even a teenager. The atrocious acting and script didn't help either.
Yeah, but TPM is the one that broke the fanbase. There was never any going back.
It's the best of the prequels.
That was my first Godzilla movie and I liked it very much, still watch it once a year.
arrested development
I like it and still watch it too.
this, but it didn't matter cause no one else cared about transformers
I loved it as a kid, and I've seen the cartoons before
Jurassic Park 3
>spinosaurus aegypticus breaking one of the strongest necks in nature with fish-eating croco-jaws
Christ, I'm still fricking seething to this day.
>writers decide to create a threat bigger than the t-rex
>showcase this by having it kills the the t-rex
It's basic writing. Only fanboys got mad at it.
Then at least use Carcharodontosaurus or Giganotosaurus : dinosaurs made to kill big animals.
i never seen anything related to Godzilla other than the Hollywood 1998 movie and it's was glorious. I've some pics on Google of "Godzilla original design" and it's goofy as frick, it looks like an obese man in a suit made of shit.
how anyone can defend this?
solid bait i almost fell for it
This is the movie that shellshocked the people who made it to the point it's still an open wound. The producer admitted that they fricked it up, the guy who in some shots portrayed Godzilla admitted that everyone knew they were making shit, fans, the public, the critics. It was a fricking failure on every front. It was a total defeat. The only win it managed to get was the cartoon but that was made by people who actually cared.
I push my finger into my
AAAAAS
and honestly the cartoon would have done pretty well if it hadn't been named Godzilla
Like, Zilla Jr. works pretty well as his own Kaiju, design is great and he's got a bit of a niche as a weaker but more agile Kaiju who outsmarts rather than overpowers
wait, so was there seriously a guy in a zilla suit for parts of this movie? that's mindblowing to me if so, I've watched godzilla 98 like a dozen times and I always thought zilla was 100% CGI in every scene
This is the guy who publically apologized to Nakajima and admitted that they knew the movie was shit. They refers to everyone except Emmerich and maybe Devlin. But Devlin is a pathological liar so it's impossible to know what he thinks.
I just treat it like a campy fun late-90s creature feature, along the lines of something like Deep Rising and ignore the title, and I've got a big soft spot for that movie. 4K/HDR really improves the dated effects too.
>be Hollywood exec
>see Godzilla's potential
>the japs' technological limitations keep them from making top shelf kino with the IP
>givemethat.gif
>well this looks kinda dumb, lemme just *westernizes the shit out of it, making it look like an actual monster that could crawl out of the ground and frick you up*
>makes it grounded so none of that laserbeam bullshit
>adds intricate human plot around it so now the movie's only focus isn't on a stupid reptile wrecking skyscrapers
>adds Jean Reno for extra kino
>credits rolling while a Kashmir remix plays
You morons are ungrateful as frick. This is pure monster kino. Unironically one of the greatest filters of all time.
>>adds intricate human plot around it so now the movie's only focus isn't on a stupid reptile wrecking skyscrapers
You have never seen a Godzilla film
Loved this movie when it came out. Loved the Taco Bell crossover. It was kino. Didn't find out til I found this website circa 2006 that everyone hates it.
>Didn't find out til I found this website circa 2006 that everyone hates it.
For me it was the Kaijuphile forums where they were calling him GINO (Godzilla In Name Only) which was a stupid name anyway
I heard about GINO on here in the days of yore.
these were universally considered mediocre sludge until the TV show released, which redeemed them ever so slightly.
They are mediocre compared to the LotR trilogy, but otherwise still slightly better-than-average blockbusters
Would have probably been a lot better received if it was just one movie instead of being dragged out into a bloated trilogy though, that was their first and biggest mistake.
There is a Tolkien edit out there that pulls all three into one movie. Other than the expected continuity errors with so much editing down, it is genuinely great.
No it's not because it's still made out of scenes from The Hobbit films