My fellow Americans, you didn't miss out on both screening days of the greatest animated film ever, did you?
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My fellow Americans, you didn't miss out on both screening days of the greatest animated film ever, did you?
I went on Sunday where there were about 5 people and it was great. Went today where it was sold out and it was awful. People would not shut the frick up. Made me ashamed to be in the same room as them
That's a damn shame anon. There were about 55 people in my theater and they were pretty noisy during the previews, but you could hear a pin drop when the movie got going.
How'd you like it anon? Hearing Decisive Battle and komm susser tod on the big screen activated something primal in my brain
I had never seen EoE, but I did know about Komm Susser Tod just through internet osmosis, and I gotta say I was disappointed that it didn't play at the very end of the movie like I always imagined it did. Playing during that trippy sequence took away from the song massively.
that's an interesting perspective. First time I watched it, had just watched the anime, knew no memes and komm susser tod is what I associate eva with now. it's such a cool sequence. maybe you'll like it more on a rewatch
with all the strikes happening, this is the year of rereleases. I rewatched Dune part 1 in imax before 2 came out. They're rereleasing all the spider man movies.
whaat, that whole sequence of komm susser tod into the quieter, introspective dreams sequence is legendary bro. you're wack. having it play over the credits would be so lame.
anyway, local place here in canada isn't showing it until the 29th, but I got my ticket
I was the opposite of you, I thought it would play at the the end or when In the elevator when Shinji tries to rub Misato's lipstick off
but when it started playing after shinji chokes asuka instead, I was like "It's happening?!" and found it much more impactful
komm susser tod sucks. I don't get why Eva fans are so obsessed with this shit song
MASSIVE ZOOMER FILTER, LIVE MORE
ARE YOU EVEN AN ALPHIE PERCHANCE?
I'm a millennial and the song clashes with the other audio and just is nothing special. Sorry I just don't get why people love it so much
this dude loves rap and other Black person music
0 for 2
Not a zoomer
Don't listen to rap
Cumm Sussy Todd just isn't that good
NTA but same. There were several points I felt like tearing up but luckily I am a man.
Just getting this out of the way
>1. Noir
>2. Key the Metal Idol
>3. Revolutionary Girl Utena
>4. Devilman Lady
>5. Serial Experiments Lain
>6. Perfect Blue
>7. Secret of the Cerulean Sand
>8. Fantastic Children
>9. Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
>10. Simoun
If this is a top 10 I'm literally not kidding you that Texhnolyze should be on there. I don't care about the rest that's just your opinion.
I keep meaning on checking out some of these. Lain is a favorite and I keep meaning to see Texhnolyze. Onenof tgose cases where I hype it up in my mind and dont think I am ready to sit down for such a big series.
Key the metal idol completely falls apart. It's a 6/10 at best carrier by its amazing fricking opener
i really like some parts of it and key herself but frick me stuff like the hour long exposition infodump episode are insane.
Right there with you. I really wanted to love it too.
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>>1. Noir
LMAO
Filtered Eva cuck
looks like someone's a little upset
The 1997 adaptation of Berserk is top 5 at least
do you only watch anime where the main character is a girl?
My first anime was Code Geass actually.
close enough
>Noir
Best soundtrack ever
I was going to watch it today even though I've never watched Evangelion, but then I saw The Matrix was also playing and I went and watched that instead.
It's funny how reruns of old movies fill more seats then the new movies.
I thought it was a fricking TV show? That’s why I’ve never seen this there’s like 50 reboots and movies and shows and versions. Stupid, where’s the original?
This is the ending to the anime the creator wanted to do before he ran out of money for the last 2 episodes. So if you're interested in watching all you need to do is watch the anime (all 26 episodes) and the end of evangelion. If you want more you can watch the rebuilds which is a retelling of it but the community is split on liking it.
Did Funimation dub this in the 90s? How do I watch that dubbed English version?
Torrents or spend $150 on DVDs
Funimation wasnt really a thing in the 90s. ADV films (present day Sentai Film works) along with UK-based Manga Entertainment were the major English dub productions
Aniwave.to
The original is the original TV series. Death and Rebirth is a recap of the TV series that was made before the film came out, it isn't necessary for viewing. End of Evangelion is the true end of the TV series. Rebuild is a reboot.
I think if it weren't for Shinji choking Asuka, the film would be a completely better ending. That was really out of left field and didn't make a lot of sense.
i always just thought of it as the continuation of their kitchen scene, symbolically
I thought so too, but why have it at the end there? It's a beautiful moment where Shinji chooses to reject Instrumentality because there is value in individualism, and then it's sullied by the choking.
But being fricked up or being a boy doesn't really walk me to the logical thought process of
>Wake up, I just rejected Instrumentality, Asuka my fellow pilot is right here, I must choke her
Doesn't make sense to me.
>sullied
it wouldn't have any meaning if things were all magically fixed by deciding to try, it's a two steps forward one step back kinda thing i think. plus on a larger level it shows the whole message of the series in that people can hurt each other but also show great tenderness and affection as well.
>wouldn't have any meaning if things were all magically fixed by deciding to try
But things weren't magically fixed, all people were still in "limbo" and needed to find their way back to life if they so wished.
>plus on a larger level it shows the whole message of the series in that people can hurt each other but also show great tenderness and affection as well.
But a visual without logic is hollow. Again, walk me through this:
>Wake up, I just rejected Instrumentality, Asuka my fellow pilot is right here, I must choke her
How does Shinji wake up to choke Asuka?
like i said, i think it makes sense if you think of their scenes together, cause the last time they interacted she embodied all his worst, most deeply held fears of rejection. to some extent it's intentionally ambiguous but i think this makes the most sense. it's the thing that he's most scared of through the series, the main reason he pilots and does what he does, and in the kitchen scene it finally spills out in plain language only for her to completely reject him. he lashes out back then and then on the beach lashes out again at rejection embodied for the same reasons, but because the message of the film is ultimately a positive one it ends with the character who symbolized rejection (also in the voiceover earlier in the intrumentality scenes) offering her own bit of acceptance instead of what he feared. (intentionally mirror the gesture yui made) it's all emotionally driven and its a story about emotion so i think it makes more sense if you just think about the feelings instead of trying to plot out a logical course of action like that
Yeah, want to add that every scene where Asuka and Shinji have a dialogue feels connected as each builds upon each other starting with the intro where he begs Asuka to say anything, even calling him an idiot, before busting a nut, then in the pre-instrumentality sequence, where she says she wants all of him or nothing at all, and he asks her to just be nice, then the 2 scenes you mentioned
The final scene also feels like a callback to the first as well, choking her feels like him trying to get a reaction of rejection out of her, only for her to shows she understands him instead, what's always eluded me though was the reason she says "How disgusting"
>"How disgusting"
I love the vagueness of that line. I think it's a two steps forward, one step back deal, as
says, in regards to their strange relationship. Also, probably describing her thoughts on the entire experience, from Shinji beating off to her, her death, instrumentality, and being strangled.
I think the origin of the line was Anno asking Asuka 's VA how she would feel if someone jerk offd over her while she slept
yeah all of their scenes in the film should be taken together to really make sense
>what's always eluded me though was the reason she says "How disgusting"
the feeling i always got was something about how the human condition as anxious scared individuals is gross and pathetic, or the lengths they had to go to connect a little bit are, something like that i'm not quite how to put it. i think it's also intentionally ambiguous to some degree too.
>"How disgusting"
I don't understand why people make this line sound so... deep. I've always thought it as Asuka just very matter-of-factly and dryly stating, that the whole ordeal she just witnessed/experiences, was fricked up, making her "feel sick". (Which would also be an understatement, on her part. So she's being ironic, like a true gen-exer.)
Asuka says this after caressing Shinji, who just tried to strangle her and is crying over. She’s talking about feeling disgusted over how in spite of eveything she still feels sorry for Shinji, and is disgusted with herself for it. A true tsundere until the end
nah she just finds him disgusting
This could also be true, but then it conflicts with her caressing Shinji when he strangles her, and not just pushing him away
Because the line is in specific reference to Shinji. The original was "as if I could ever be killed by a worm like you" but they changed it after Anno asked the VA how she'd feel if someone jerked off over her while she was sleeping.
I went both nights. There really just isn't anything else quite like it, EoE is my favorite film to the point that I don't like to rewatch it often because I like it to remain somewhat fresh for when I do. I'm sad all over again, despite choosing to believe that it's ultimately a hopeful film. I always feel empty after watching it because I don't think I'll ever watch anything that good again.
I wish I liked the rebuilds, but no
Your thought process has always been mine
It's more abstract than that. His worth is tied to her affection towards him. He's been starved of it and she finally shows it to him. But it also shows her that he can't function without his insecurities being met. He's still stuck in his mindset. That's why she says he's disgusting. That behavior is unattractive to women.
>He's been starved of it and she finally shows it to him
But after he chokes her? Why then?
>But it also shows her that he can't function without his insecurities being met. He's still stuck in his mindset
Even after rejecting Instrumentality he's back to his old self? So he didn't mature at all? I'm not trying to shit on anything, just trying to understand the very end of the film because it just didn't work for me.
From how I viewed it (this movie is like a Rorschach test), Shinji may have grown a bit but not that much. He's still deeply insecure. He may have chosen to live, but he's still haunted by rejection and insecurity.
He was fricking her.
This is one interpretation too far. If anything it was explicitly to show that they never had sex even though Asuka wanted him to frick her.
They could have fricked later on the completely destroyed uninhabited earth but even if that did happen in the creator's mind it never once happened in the story we were presented with.
I don't think it's too far at all. In fact I'm sure I'm right. There's a segment in the film where the characters talk about sex being something to prove our existence. Shinji rejects Instrumentality, wills himself back into existence, as does Asuka, and to prove his existence, he has sex with her.
I would reject instrumentality for the opportunity to choke a girl who doesn't love me
>I think if it weren't for Shinji choking Asuka, the film would be a completely better ending. That was really out of left field and didn't make a lot of sense.
That was to show that Shinji is still fricked up. No matter how much he tries to cope himself into thinking he can change and become a man. He's still a boy that can't grow up. At least that's how it seemed to me when I rewatched it tonight.
yeah I took it as Shinji doing it to see if he was still in the LCL. And Asuka showing that she knew what he wanted (for her to be nice to him)
It made total sense for Shinji to choke Asuka because he was so avoidant his whole life and wanted so much for nothing just because people were mean to him once, that all of his shit ended up in strangling the only girl who let him get close. It wasn't right, but at the same time it shows how fricked up he still is after everything like the other anon said.
Rebuild is a continuation of the original story and the true canon ending. EoE was simply Anno trying to end his series because he was not satisfied with the TV series ending. He then was not satisfied with EoE as the ending and created a true ending.
also EoE was his bitterness towards fans hating the tv ending
This interpretation is so stupid. Just parrots repeating parrots for over 30 years.
I dont think it is entirely wrong, but I do agree it is given too much as the reason EoE was made.
If it isn't entirely wrong it makes up maybe 0.001% of EoE. Let me put it this way: There wasn't one moment in the theater showing tonight where I felt attacked, or where I felt any other audience member was being attacked by this movie.
Why do you think EoE contains photos of death threat emails he received from fans?
He also put in photos of emails that praised the show and expressed their excitement for EoE.
Was Anno disgusted by otaku? Yes. Did he make EoE as "revenge" against the fans because they didn't like the first ending? No. What happens in the movie was always the intended ending, they just ran out of time and had to compromise.
or maybe Anno had always the idea for bith endings, so he just made both
The scenes with Shinji and Asuka in EoE are a commentary on Eva fans unhealthy relationship with the female characters of the show and their stunted emotional state irl, in no way was that a part of any "original intention" for the show, as it is a post-hoc commentary on the show.
Yeah okay that part was a new addition, but the whole "lets have everyone's favorite charcters die horrifically and Shinji has a total mental breakdown" part was always in the cards
>true canon ending.
its literally a seperate timeline and all the characters from the show are straight up different (asuka is a clone with no mother issues, for one - every other character besides shinji and gendo has had their depth removed)
>He then was not satisfied with EoE as the ending
he made Rebuild for the money
also marigays deserve the rope
bitches mad
it's not a seperate timeline, and their is 1000x more depth to every character in rebuild
>End of Evangelion is the true end of the TV series
No it isn't. The last two episodes of the TV series are the true end of the TV series. You can tell because they are a part of the TV series.
I'm an EoE purist, end of episode 24 rolls right into EoE in a more natural feeling way than the jarring nature of 25+26 (which are still good)
A sane man in an insane world, I got your back bro
Other guys explained it like shit, here's the easy explanation:
The original is a TV series with 26 episodes.
The last 2 episodes were not good, or so thought most of the fanbase and the author.
In light of this, the movie in OP's pic was made. As a retcon. A "real ending" to the series, to amend for the "bad" last two episodes.
You're wrong and moronic. Every ending is canon and amazing for what each tried to be.
The shows ending is based because anno decided to rape the audience
EoE is based because anno raped the animators
>anno raped the animators
what do you mean?
>You're wrong
I gave no opinions in that post. You might be moronic
The others didnt explain it like shit you did.
That's now what you accused me of at first. You said
>Every ending is canon and amazing
as if I said otherwise
The first anon explained it all perfectly well.
Then you come in and say anno didnt like the shows ending, which is not true. Anno always did his best with the capacity he had at the time. Then you say eoe is a retcon but that also isnt true. All endings are canon and exist simulaneously.
If he liked the ending he wouldnt have remade it
You dont know what you are talking about. He did eoe because didnt want to get death threats from fans anymore
it was ok, glad i went but the tv ending still sticks with me more
Went tonight and it was great. Haven't seen it in over a decade. Forgot about most of it. I sort of understood it back then, but it makes a lot more sense to me now. Watching it in a room full of strangers was pretty uncomfortable and awkward in some parts though.
i forgot about it. feels bad
>movies are so shit now that theaters have to show old ones constantly just to avoid bankruptcy
How long do they have left?
>congratulations!
Supreme kino.
Skipped watching this. I preferred Thrice Upon a Time anyway, made me cry while watching it at the theater.
Thrice was Anno returning to the work decades later. It was a good ending from him having time to reflect. EoE was his raw work coming off rhe rejection of the tv series ending.
they're both great. Thrice is brought down a little by lame CG action sequences, EoE has stronger direction. but Thrice does have a really strong message and is a fantastic capstone to the franchise.
If anyone on earth wasn't happy with EoE, Thrice is absolutely and completely the ultimate thing anyone could ever get. Both are good.
I’m honestly glad I didn’t see Thrice in theaters the first time I watched it because the scene where Rei III dies made me bawl like a b***h
you legit got filtered and the rebuilds are the ultimate pleb detector
Not really. EoE was a great movie and I liked it a lot when I was younger. It just didn’t have the same impact on me that 3.0 + 1.0 has had on me in the relatively short time since it was released and I watched it. Maybe it’s because I’m older and more mature so 3.0+1.0 really resonates with me, but I truly appreciate that ending more than I ever did the ending of EoE.
Rebuild ending feels almost generic. EoE and the show both feel unique and inspire a wide variety of emotions.
this rebuild gay is shitposting in Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile at once lmao
I've been tried lately and I wasn't quite in the right mood / headspace to see EoE. I am gonna regret not seeing it on the big screen, but I think I wasnt ready for rewatching it.
I went both days!
It's amazing how the entire theatre watches the One More Final scene with bated breath - absolutely not a peep from anyone. Was worth watching it in the theatre for that atmosphere alone.
Even the annoying memesters up front were silent for One More Final I Need You.
It's so fricking perfect.
>We'll do the rest when you get back
this reminds me. I need to finish reorganizing my box evangelion doujin.
no, because the experience of going to a theatre is fricking awful
it smells, everything is sticky, an hour of ads before the movie you paid to watch, people on their phone and talking, the audio is way too fricking loud, the giant fricking dots to signal the projectionist taking up 1/4th of the screen constantly
saw it tonight. there were a lot of chuckles scattered throughout the theatre during the meme parts.
EoE in a theater setting hit different. Not a word during the hospital scene and it was a full house.
For me, people laughed during the hospital scene for both showings. Everyone did shut up for the finale though
Mine was ok... Theater was quiet. Only issue is there was a zoomer couple right next to me who kept whispering and playing with each other. And worst of all, during Instrumentality, they fricking took out their phone to read the lyrics and do HUMMING KARAOKE with each other. They were quiet but it was just loud enough to be annoying. The girl had in those Asuka hair clips too, so they were obvious Eva fans.
That's really fricking weird. I know this is like weeb mecha, I sperged out some too, but that's some bonafide autist shit
They were so overly cutesy so idk what was going on
I'm far too much like Shinji to say something
I can see what you mean. I did enjoy seeing it in theaters, especially for hearing how good the sound design was. But ultimately it will never hit me as hard as it did when I first watched it alone in my bedroom at like 1am.
Why didn't you say something. Be the hero you want there to be. Even if people will think you are mean. It's a lonely path but it is justice
went to a 7 screening tonight and was OK
couple cosplayers and generally polite crowd but all the shitheads happened to be in my row
one would not shut up about being born the same year EoE came out
when the Asuka death scene ended his fat gf was laughing into the otherwise dead silence
>when the Asuka death scene ended his fat gf was laughing into the otherwise dead silence
wtf you have to be genuinely moronic to be like this
I did miss it and I never had plans of going as I've already seen the movie over 5 times
I don't understand the hysteria behind hyping yourself for some type of faux new experience that you're already familiar with
I've never gotten to see it in theater and I wanted the experience to see it on a big screen. My first experience with the series was my 9th grade gf giving me EoE on VHS, this was in 2000.
Was worth the money just for the nostalgia rush.
This scene hits hard as frick if you're a KHV. Basically the chair clattering meme but replace rage with a melancholic acceptance of your condition
>I don't understand the hysteria behind hyping yourself for some type of faux new experience that you're already familiar with
Do you even like Evangelion. Are you moronic by any chance.
>Do you even like Evangelion
Some of it
That's about what I figured when I read this bit in your post:
>I don't understand
Moron.
too bad
How do you not understand the magic of being dwarfed by Lilith's MASSIVE breasts????
The film is definitely the sort to benefit from a large theater screen and a theater's sound system unless you're so autistic you truly don't care about theater presentation whatsoever.
This is a poster child film for justifying a theater trip.
Me in the theater apparently being the only one not to bring a gf or friends or some shit
Should have expected that, EoE is a meme movie for insufferable redditor normalgays
I need to find a spot for my End Of Eva posterd.
Very nice. Tasteful.
Some theaters are still playing it next week, you still have a chance
Canada was a mistake
I wish there had been more "surround" effect. It was immersive, but most of the audio was front-sourced. A few soldiers on the radio were the big exception, yeah.
>I wish there had been more "surround" effect.
EOE isn't playing here, so I didn't get to see it, but this is pretty much always the problem with older movies. They simply weren't made with any sort of surround systems in mind. So they would require a full sound reconstruction to sound modern.
>Some theaters are still playing it next week, you still have a chance
holy shit, its still playing at my theater! i am gunna make it!
I do also have that poster
Where did you get it?
same, one of the actual posters used for its original theatrical release
>Moron.
Evangelion is literally dogshit this is the only good thing, the tv series and all the remakes are fricking awful
nah
also
>remakes
My knees are bending on their own!
Did anyone bring Tang to the screening?
I brought a water bottle filled with orange juice and vodka, didn't even think about the tang. Seems like theaters really don't give much of a shit if you bring outside food/drink anymore
Akira is better
Wings of Honneamise is better
I don't give a shit about ching ching bing bong cartoons. Stop jerking off to anime and get a girlfriend
I took my girlfriend to cowboy bebop the movie in theaters recently but wouldn't dare show her this perverted mess even though it's ludo
I brought a big carton of orange juice to the theatre and when Komm Susser Todd started playing I started squirting it everywhere and pretended I was turning into LCL
Kino
Seeing the introspective horny second half in a room full of people was weird.
Someone clapped at this part when i saw it.
Are you sure it was clapping?
Yep. One lone dude clapping at this scene in my screening too.
I clapped at this scene.
these are things I know
Guy next to me kept taking pictures of the screen all movie and it was pretty annoying.
I thought he was going to just take pictures of meme shit but he took pictures of everything even mildly iconic and since it's EoE he was taking pictures all film.
i missed it...
Reminder that Gkids was initially gonna distribute in canada but two of the only theatre chains in the country flat out refused to screen it due to the subject matter (Naked teenagers) and were afraid of any backlash
Fricking pussies.
The entire right wing is screeching that literally everything is pedophilia, can you blame them?
It ain't just right wingers, it's lefties too and young people. There are reaction channels on youtube vis-a-vis Evangelion and anytime Rei or Asuka is nude they make a face or make a loud "oooookay" noise to signal how much they aren't pedophiles. Just let the artistry speak for itself ffs.
source? I have a ticket to see it in an indie theater in toronto next week but I was still kind of hoping it would pop up at cineplex. I hate this country
NTA but there wont be any official source. There was just a quick unanimous no by cineplex execs when gkids came with the distribution portfolio.
t. cineplex corporate employee
well that's fricking lame. I'm glad I still get to see it but I have to travel an hour, and the theatre has a smaller screen.
god canada is so gay im going to kms after i see this
Oh, so I didn't actually miss out on this film by moving out of Little Pakistani Somalia in Canada to live in the deep rural mountains of the United States where the closest showing is in another state 3-4 hours away. My pozzed hellscape of a former capital city in that fricking homosexual communist wasteland wouldn't have been showing it anywhere anyway. Was literally my only regret. That I missed out on seeing EoE in theaters in exchange for never having to see a shitskin ever again (not even at the doctor's office, incredible).
Awesome experience
The audio alone was worth going for. I honestly thought people were parroting the lines in japanese behind me during the attack on Nerv HQ scenes
>I honestly thought people were parroting the lines in japanese behind me during the attack on Nerv HQ scenes
DUDE SAME
Guy on my right's head snapped to look at me as if I was saying the Nip radio chatter at the beginning. It was funny.
Went with gf. Location was kind of an artsy/filmbro theater where they play retro bullshit like “and now, your feature presentation” intros. There was a guy who came out before the movie started to announce how they’ve tried to play this for years and now can finally play it and also that akira is playing next month. He kept sneaking in during the movie to mess with the thermostat and I was incredibly sweaty, felt like it fit the movie though at least.
It was a first come first serve seating theater and I got the perfect spot in the middle, and the guy randomly pulled out a poster of the movie and said he was gonna give it out to whoever had his favorite seat in the theater, so I assumed me or my gf were gonna win it, but he gave it to someone sitting in the far left of the row I was in, it was a girl in an asuka meme shirt so I think he just wanted to frick her.
I refunded my ticket. My wife is newly pregnant, my first, and things are hitting different since I found out.
I went with my friend last night and he explained there was different endings? I haven’t watched the anime, but the movie itself wasn’t hard to follow I am genuinely autistic and could pick up on all of the threads in the movie do people really not understand it? It reminds me of when people thought Inception was “hard to get” just because the fricking top didn’t fall over at the end.
Also is there really multiple endings? The one I saw was Shinji choking Asuke and she calls him pathetic
Yeah there are actually four seperate endings to Evangelion.
The first is in the TV show - where Shinji learns to accept himself and everyone congratulates him while they're all in Instrumentality
The second is the movie, which you just saw.
The third is in the manga - its similar to the movie, but instead of Shinji strangling Asuka on the beach, the world has somewhat returned to normal, but everyone except Shinji has forgotten what happened before the events of the series (the Mass Produced Evas lay dormantly over the landscape again, but nobody knows what they are and they're covered in snow). Shinji has meets Asuka on a train to school but she doesn't know him.
The fourth and final ending is in the last Rebuild movie - Shinji and Gendo forgive each other, then Shinji gets rid of all Evangelions before becoming a Japanese salaryman wage cuck.
>The fourth and final ending is in the last Rebuild movie - Shinji and Gendo forgive each other, then Shinji gets rid of all Evangelions before becoming a Japanese salaryman wage cuck.
but he gets a big tiddy gf who suspiciously looks like annos wife. plus forgiving his dad was really sweet so thats kind of the best ending
Best ending would be Rei & Kowaru, Asuka & Ryoji Kaji, Shinji & Mari, if they had taken the time to play around with the timeline just a bit & not thrust us into a rushed third act. We needed some breathing room & the little survivalist village does it in the wrong way. Shinji needed more time with Mari & her giant fricking breasts & Asuka needed to bond with another male Evangelion pilot (which should have been Ryoji Kaji, instead of being a background characters eternal e-girl. Narratively it would have been fricking perfect
This sounds moronic, Evangelion is more than who gets with who
Evangelion is entirely about interpersonal relationships
Not that anon, and you're right, but boiling it down to who gets with who misses the issue of being able to deal with being alone. In truth that's something the show doesn't adequately deal with: All of the characters have problems being alone, and the show's solution is to find love. Kind of dark that way.
It may be 3.0+1.0 that shines a light on finding fulfillment through a partner, but that's shallow and tacked on. Neon Genesis Evangelion has always been about the courage to face pain and rejection in the real world and in real people, it's about how everybody has their own flaws, insecurities, desires, and conflicts they face, and it's about learning to love your own self because only we can deal with it
Not the anon you're talking to, but a massively underrated aspect of NGE is the glasses NERV character. He has explicit feeling for Misato, and he NEVER lets it get on the way of his work, he never monologues about how lonely he is. He goes to work, does his job well, he harbors feelings for a coworker and doesn't let it destroy him.
Meanwhile just about every other character in the show suffers immensely from lack of romance in their lives.
Me and my friends love making fun of Hyuga. We created a whole lore for him where he was a simp/beta male turned incel. Hilarious stuff.
Haha yeah he should be more like Shinji or Asuka or Rei or Misato or Gendo who suffer from loneliness so much they continually hurt themselves and the people around them
Those people act on their feelings to some capacity, Hyuga is a literal slavish cog in the system who's happy being an underling; it's precisely why Misato never considered him a potential romantic partner.
>Those people act on their feelings to some capacity
Continually hurting themselves and the people around them, yes glad we agree.
>Hyuga is a literal slavish cog
Protip: That's everybody.
>who's happy being an underling
He likes his job and he's good at it, sure.
>it's precisely why Misato never considered him a potential romantic partner.
That's different. We don't actually know why Hyuga never acted on his feelings. What we know is that he didn't let it frick with him to the point of annoying monologues about being sad and alone.
huh good point, but counter-argument: he is the basedjak in this picture
This he's just too much of a pussy to ask out Misato so he gets cucked
Right, I'm saying that I'm alright with Rebuild except that very narrow part of the story. Eva is about (self)validation & connection with others. I've talked about this before on this board in greater detail. My post was just a shorter response this time, my apologies
fair enough, I think it's great that we're even compelled to discuss and argue these points to begin with. Evangelion really is something to think about
Of course. Eva is one of those few shows that has depths & metaphor far deeper than it was probably ever intended. I like the rebuilds but I thought the third just dropped the ball completely. Especially the way they handled Ryoji's death & Misato's son. What I would have done was have Misato have her son earlier in the timeline. Back when she & Ryoji first got together. She gives up her son because she's not ready to be a mother yet. He goes on to be an Eva pilot in another nation. Misato then takes Shinji in under her wing as a surrogate son because of her conflicting feelings. Then during Misatos rebellion, he & Mari join Asuka. In the survivalist village, or on the airship I would have preferred to see all the Eva pilots interacting. I think Kaworu was mishandled in the Rebuilds as well. I think if Shinji isn't going to be with Asuka then they needed a new person that would be her "perfect partner" in the same way as Mari is to Shinji. Give her a man who does everything she wants in a man, as well as someone who treats her like a princess, while putting g her in her place occasionally. More importantly he understands her inner turmoil. Someone who can validate her feelings & someone she can help in her own way. The reason it needs to be Ryoji Kaji is because it brings the rest of her feelings full circle. He is the son of the man she had a crush on, the man she pined for in her adolescence as well as the woman she judged herself against as a woman.
So that's my take. Juggle the timeline a bit. Give Kaworu a different role then momentary copilot to Shinji. Give the Eva Pilots more screen time together & give Asuka a better partner than video guy, he & Toji's stories would have been perfect just as leaders of the village, there was no need to muddle it
there is one true ending and it is the end of the rebuild series
Who the frick watches EoE without watching the TV series first?
Me because I may never get the chance to see it in theaters so said frick it.
Sounds like some fake and gay Boruto or DragonBall Super level slop.
Ty for breaking down fren.
>Sounds like some fake and gay Boruto or DragonBall Super level slop
rebuild does seem that way on the surface but it's actually really thoughtful. some dumb CG action aside, 3.0+1.0 is a really surprisingly good ending considering how high the bar was
I agree
that 'tumba-ling down' song is the catchiest ever
>mfw i face the tiniest inconvenience irl
Eva bros...
If/when verbally speaking of the show, do you say, for example, "Unit Zero One" or "Unit One?"
in the dub they say Unit One so I say that
unit oh one
Zero One. I feel like saying "unit" is somehow redudant.
You should have called the management and got that Black person outta there!
The Japanese names never pronounce an "oh" so I just say "unit zero" "unit one" "unit two" cause it feels weird to say something different from what they say.
I cried
I haven't seen this movie in probably 12 years or so. The part that got me rewatching it was when Gendo is dying and is talking about his insecurities. The same ones that Shinji has. It took me back to when my parents were on the brink of divorce and I saw them in an equal and vulnerable light. All of their shortcomings out there for me to see. My reality shattered pretty hard.
I can appreciate what it means for you but if I had popcorn I would have thrown it at the screen during that bit. Gendo has been a selfish bastard his whole life, he gets no pity from me for confessing his insecurities when he's about to die. He was a monstrous individual.
It wasn’t pity that I felt necessarily. It was more just the idea of your parents being as flawed (if not more) than you are and projecting their issues onto you. The hypocrisy of putting up a front as if you’re above something that you yourself still struggle with and expect your children to overcome just because you say so. This movie just hits so much different now.
well said anon
I think it's implied that despite all his scheming to make this meeting happen, Yui rejects Gendo and punishes him for pushing away Shinji out of fear and abandoning him, and so his retribution seems that he was eaten, but not Tanged so he never actually joined instrumentality
>and so his retribution seems that he was eaten, but not Tanged so he never actually joined instrumentality
Good. That makes me feel better.
Gendo getting his in EoE is great. I could write a book filled with complaints about the Rebuilds, but Gendo getting his "happy" ending with Yui will never sit right with me
Wait so Unit 01 biting Gendo's body in half actually happened? Why would Yui do that?
>Why would Yui do that?
for abandoning Shinji and not being there for him
even though she did the same thing
I think the difference is she truly believed she was doing something for the betterment of humans.
Because he's an butthole.
Anno in 1997 still hated his dad, Anno in 2021 had learned to forgive him.
iconic
i'm seeing double, four literally mes
I didnt get to go because I couldn't finish my stats homework done in time :/
I saw it on Sunday and I'm seeing an encore screening tonight
Komm, sussy tod would be a much better song if the translation wasn't so bad
I am seeing it on saturday. They are showing it alot in nyc so I havent missed out yet.
yep, eva's kino
*dies*
did misato join instrumentality?
yes
but gendo doesn't somehow?
Gendo died to Rei before Instrumentality
misato died before instrumentality as well
Nah she got shot sure, but she lived for a while after that
nah she blows up but you see rei with her dissolved body later anyway
this doesn't make sense then. both misato and gendo died before instrumentality, yet only misato gets to join it?
does it actually imply he's not in it or is that just how people read the last scene with him? iirc he's in it in the tv ending for what it's worth
Gendo joins Yui in Unit 1 & floats into space
Is that what happens when Evas eat humans? They conjoin?
Not usually but shit was freaky at that point
Gendo died to Yui anon.
Anon.......she blows the frick up
You guys are 100% right. I think my mind was mixing up different endings
The reason the dead people are in there is because Rei is a time traveler fricking with cause and effect. Instrumentality hasn't happened yet but it has happened and Rei has picked up Misato and Asuka.
Rei also rejects Gendo and Yui double dunks on him. So no Gendo. It was their call.
YOU FRICKING moronS WHEN REI BECOMES A GOD BY MERGING WITH ADAM AND LILITH SHE BECOMES A SUPER QUANTUM BEING IT'S WHY SHE APPEARS TO SHINJI THEN DISAPPEARS INSTANTLY IN THE FIRST EPISODE, SHE EXISTS OUTSIDE OF TIME FOR ALL TIMES AS A RESULT OF THAT IN INEVITABLE OCCURRENCE.
YOU SEE HER APPEARING BEFORE MISATO AND EVEN RITSUKO AT THEIR TIMES OF DEATH BEFORE INSTRUMENTALITY HAS EVEN BEGUN TO TAKE THEM INTO THE FOLD OF INSTRUMENTALITY. MISATO SPEAKING TO PEN PEN IS REI APPEARING TO HER AS PEN PEN WHICH WAS HER FINAL WISH AND WE'RE REVEALED IN A SPLIT SECOND BEFORE WE SEE HER BODY RIPPED APART BY THE EXPLOSION THAT REI WAS THRE WITH HER. THE SAME WAY RITSUKO SEES HER FLOATING ABOVE HER BEFORE SHE FLIES INTO THE TANGPOOL.
GENDO IS IRONICALLY THE PERSON SOLELY NOT ALLOWED TO BECOME PART OF INSTRUMENTALITY BECAUSE BECOMING PART OF INSTRUMENTALITY WAS HIS ONE DRIVING REASON FOR EXISTENCE ENTIRELY AT THE SELFISH COST OF HIS OWN SON'S HAPPINESS, THE SON THAT YUI "LOVED" AND WHICH REI LOVED. HIS PENANCE FOR HIS SINS IS TO BE REJECTED FROM THE KINGDOM OF TANG HEAVEN BY GOD REI AS WELL AS EXECUTED BY BEING MUNCHED ON BY YUI.
HOLY SHIT GUYS PAY ATTENTION
damn that is a finely aged vintage meme
What was the deal with Rei anyway? Why does Gendo want to use Adam to merge with her in the film?
She is the soul of Lilith within an artificially created human body meant to preserve her soul until the reunification of Adam and Lilith can be performed in order to carry out Human Instrumentality. She has some kind of connection to Yui, but what that is is never explicitly explained - conjecture is that she was some kind of attempt to create a new body for Yui as they tried to pull her soul out of Unit 01, but they were unsuccessful.
How'd they get the soul of Lilith out of Lilith and put it into Rei?
Anon I understood the plot of Evangelion and EoE what I don't understand is how Lilith and Rei came to merge. If NERV or SEELE can extract the souls of gods, why couldn't they retrieve Yui from Unit 01? When Doctor Akagi strangled Rei I to death, what happened to Lilith's soul then?
>How'd they get the soul of Lilith out of Lilith and put it into Rei?
Never explained. You're just supposed to accept that they did it, just like how Kaworu is similarly the soul of Adam put into a human body.
>If NERV or SEELE can extract the souls of gods, why couldn't they retrieve Yui from Unit 01?
Yui chose to remain inside Evangelion Unit 01 so she would be able to have influence over Instrumentality and become immortal.
>When Doctor Akagi strangled Rei I to death, what happened to Lilith's soul then?
It's implied that some part of Rei 1 exists within Evangelion Unit 00, but as to how NERV is able to transmit Lilith's soul from the various Rei vessels is again, never explained. Evangelion really isn't a show that explains the specifics to you
>Never explained. You're just supposed to accept that they did it, just like how Kaworu is similarly the soul of Adam put into a human body.
That's what I figured, it's nice to hear that from somebody else however. Thanks.
>Yui chose to remain inside Evangelion Unit 01 so she would be able to have influence over Instrumentality and become immortal.
Now THAT'S interesting. Cool. Sort of a longshot considering she didn't know how it'd all go down, but that's not a flaw, just means she was a gambling woman.
>It's implied that some part of Rei 1 exists within Evangelion Unit 00, but as to how NERV is able to transmit Lilith's soul from the various Rei vessels is again, never explained. Evangelion really isn't a show that explains the specifics to you
Yeah that's fair. These things don't ruin the story for me, just a little bothersome. I'd rather they weren't there; I was watching EoE in the theater and thinking about these souls problems and I realized other stories like Akira don't have these issues and I felt EoE was a little lesser. Oh well.
Rei is a clone of Yui with Lilith's soul inside of her or something she is... instrumental in being able to control instrumentality and shape it to what Gendo wanted it to be and reunite Gendo with Yui (his entire driving goal the entire time) or so he thinks but turns out Rei isn't just a tool, or a doll to be used. She self-actualizes, rejects Gendo's part in it stealing the only part of him she needs for full on godhood (the Adam embryo embedded in his hand) and goes to help Shinji by granting his wish.
Lilith and Adam are both progenitor races born from yin yang style seeds send throughout the galaxy to spread different forms of life by aliens called the First? Ancestral Race Lilith is basically boundless knowledge (source of all normal earth life culminating in humans which can know themselves and like be the universe observing itself mumbo jumbo) and Adam is boundless vitality or whatever which is the abstract but eternally powered beings known as Angels (all angels have those energy cores, Unit 01 becomes closest to a living god because it is both born of man and obtains an S2 engine giving it boundless vitality or whatever breaking its limiters). The lances of longinus were like the safety measure locks that would never allow them to converge if these two "never the twain shall meet" different eggs somehow miraculously landed in the same space (they did on Earth).
Also Yui's whole plan was never some selfish instrumentality shit it was to live forever as a monument to mankind no matter how lonely or something.
I mean she's the one that says this so it seems pretty clear.
Literally everyone did. That's what instrumentality is
I went to two showings. :3
I watched the first screening, was good
Skipped second, got a hoooker instead, not very good
I didn't go because the nearest theater showing it was 1.5 hours away from me and by the time I learned it was happening I didn't have the time to rewatch eps 1-24.
I'm sure it was fun to see on the big screen but it's not a big deal.
I managed to see it in the UK when they screened it here and it was great.
I hoped my American friend could watch it too because he really liked Eva, but he's been radio silent for 2 years. I hope he didn't kill himself before he could watch it.
Adam was a good guy and it's humanitys fault for fricking everything up
I watched Chars Counterattack in theatres yeah. Dunno why you are posting that trash film.
how many people were there when you saw cca? there were only like four others at my showing
Might have been like 12 at my theatre
Mobile Suit Gundam (1979)
Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam (1985)
Thats it, you can watch ZZ if you really want to but its not important to CCA.
Thanks anon.
>Man humans are so crazy lmao
What do I watch first before watching Chars Counterattack?
Sailor Moon Crystal
Ty anon
So what did the ayys think as they watched the events if eoe unfold?
Hideaki Anno is a hack fraud and his “boohoo I hate otakus but love their money” crusade is played the frick out
Frick his boomer fraud of a mentor too. That cigarette sucking slope has some nerve to say his son’s movies are unwatchable when he made fricking Ponyo
>boohoo I hate otakus but love their money
There's not one moment in EoE that says frick otakus.
filtered
>Hideaki Anno?
More like MID-eaki Anno!
>Studio Ghibli?
More like asiatic-io SHIT-li!
>Hayao Miyazaki?
More like “bitter old man who failed as a father”!
>”I hate otaku but love their money”
We’re talking about EoE here anon. You’re thinking of the Rebuilds
Evangelion is so great because the second you see some moronic homosexual otaku made a thread about it on this moronic website you know already know they are some moronic otaku homosexual that missed the entire point.
The reason why I never got into Eva is that it appeals to teenagers despite the fact that people claim it's very artistic.
As someone who rewatched the series for the first time since being a teenager in preparation for this film, it's worth watching for the animation and editing alone.
>rewatched the series for the first time since being a teenager
But what about the themes, and... well, "feels"? For the longest time I've tried to get some of my friends to watch NGE for the first time (we are boomers now) because the show means to much to me. But it's difficult to say, why they have refused, or just can't manage to get past the few first episodes... Doesn't the show "work", if you are not seeing it as a teenager, for the first time?
>But what about the themes, and... well, "feels"?
They're definitely there and they absolutely resonate. I've written a lot about it privately as I was rewatching and intend to write even more for some future video series. I'll give you some bits right now. I think it was in the last two episodes, but one of the characters says
>But humans are able to go on with their lives because they're able to forget their pain/loneliness every so often
I would never have understood that as a teenager because teenagers aren't really living, they're existing and bouncing around whatever environment they were born into. It's when we make true choices as adults and go to work that we realize
>Wow, this is it. I have to make money or I won't be able to support myself and my hobbies/needs/roof over my head
There's a lot of pain in the monotony of adulthood, but I forget about that pain every so often because of something joyful that happens to me.
There's the conversation with Kaji and Shinji as Rei takes on the S2 Engine angel, Kaji telling Shinji there are things only certain people can do, right now, and that you shouldn't live a life full of regret. TONS of little moments that resonated with me this time around that didn't as a teenager.
>But it's difficult to say, why they have refused, or just can't manage to get past the few first episodes
Because adults, like old dogs, get set in their ways and don't want to open their hearts and minds to certain experiences. They could watch NGE for instance, but have their guard up the whole time and not allow themselves to feel anything about the good moments.
>They're definitely there and they absolutely resonate
>I think you could easily watch it in your 20s and 30s and still get something out of it
>I saw it for the first time last year and loved it, and I'm in my thirties.
Yeah, I keep thinking that my friends could still like the series - despite being adults, and also normies who don't watch anime - but sadly it has been very difficult to "sell" them the series. Especially because the first few episodes are also rather slow-paced, which might turn people off. (I think the show really perks up once Asuka arrives.)
I've watched the show like half a dozen times in the past 25 years, and still enjoy it, but the last time I rewatched it, I was sadly striken with a feeling, that I didn't get much out of it anymore. Perhaps I have finally watched it too much, heh. But I'm still interested in the franchise, and even hope that it will continue, in some form, in the future.
However, seeing it for the first time, roughly at Shinji's age, was a very precious experience indeed!
i dunno about them, but in my experience normies, especially older ones, have a hard time just accepting the idea of animation telling a serious story in general. showing them something like akira or only yesterday that has a more recognizable traditional kind of style instead of something that's mixing in comedy and playing with all the yoku and otaku images of the creators youths would probably ease them into it more than starting with eva
>normies have a hard time just accepting the idea of animation telling a serious story in general
I agree. I showed my friends Ghost in the Shell at some point, but they found it a bit dull (and even confusing). However, then we watched Perfect Blue, and they seemed to love it - even more than I do - and said stuff like "I completely forgot I was watching an animation!".
I just wish there was more "adult-oriented" anime out there, but it keeps being very rare.
Anon are you a little silly? Of course they'd enjoy Perfect Blue over GitS. 99% of people will enjoy Perfect Blue over GitS. Perfect Blue has a lightningly paced story with nimble and engaging editing and a simple story to follow. Ghost in the Shell is a sloooooooooooow story about a cyborg struggling with identity and the limitations of our physical bodies.
>99% of people will enjoy Perfect Blue over GitS
Really? Well, I guess I'm in the minority, then. Eventho I saw The Matrix before GITS, I still think GITS is a good movie.
However, I also saw Black Swan (and some others) before Perfect Blue, and wasn't that impressed with it. Still a good movie, sure, but not something I care about, unlike with GITS (as a franchise).
>I keep thinking that my friends could still like the series - despite being adults, and also normies who don't watch anime
Sounds like a fool's errand.
Unfortunately some people just get closed off to new ideas and emotions as they age, especially if they have stable lives they will tend to 'retreat' into that cocoon of safety. Eva is a show that demands you look inwards and ask tough questions about yourself and the world, and some people just don't like doing that. As a teenager most people are still malleable enough to do that, or in Anno's case it was continued reflection on personal trauma throughout his life that kept him open minded (and I also suspect exposure to psychedelics but that's another conversation). So I think you probably have to fall into one of those camps.
jesus christ you are such an embarrassing pseud
>Doesn't the show "work", if you are not seeing it as a teenager, for the first time?
I don't think so, like I said in another post it's more of a reflection on being a teenager from an adult man looking backwards, than it is actually for teenagers. I think you could easily watch it in your 20s and 30s and still get something out of it. at a boomer's age though, they might just be past that stage, or a lot of people just lose their open mindedness to new media as they age, so if they're not into anime or stuff with the same artistic weirdness of eva, they might just not care. Also, I think it's a show that requires a certain level of introspection. like with media, people tend to close themselves off to introspection as they age if they don't actively practice it. your teenage years and maybe your mid life crisis are the two points most people will introspect regardless, which makes those particularly vulnerable moments a good time to watch something like this. some people practice introspection regularly all their lives, but other people close themselves off to that. doesn't really have much to do with age.
I saw it for the first time last year and loved it, and I'm in my thirties. I actually think I wouldn't have appreciated it as much if I had seen it when I was a teenager, since a lot of the themes are things I've thought about and experienced going through my life up until now. I'm sure I still would have liked it as a teenager, but I also think it would have been a little wasted on me.
I think there's something special about watching Eva as a teenager, but I actually appreciate it on a much deeper level as an adult. I would say that it's a show for people who have experienced trauma, not just teenagers. It's just that teenagers tend to have more intense feelings, which is also kind of a plot point within the show. But remember, Anno was an adult when he made the series and it's deeply personal to him. It reflects on being a teenager, but there's more to it than that.
Not directed at you, but it's stupid to think only teenagers have to deal with trauma. The production of the TV show happened when Anno was in his early-mid 30s, as if adults in their mid 30s don't experience loneliness, uncertainty, lack of romance, etc.
Yeah agreed, exactly my point. Like I said, it's more of a reflection on being a teenager from the perspective of an adult than it is actually directed towards teenager.
I'm really glad I watched Evangelion for the first time at 13. As someone who basically has the exact same relationship with his dad, I felt seen by Shinji Ikari in a way I never had in any other series.
Watching it at 31, I can appreciate the series for its craftsmanship and artistry. And Asuka is STILL hot as frick
Always has been. Always will be. I think I'll give this 15 year old girl a nice edged up goon wank today. Maybe I'll even find some horny AGP Anon on discord to pretend to be her and encourage my stroking.
>the exact same relationship with his dad
I also found that somewhat relatable, but what really struck to me (as a lonely teenager) was how terrible Shinji and Asuka were to each other, despite both desperately yearning company at the same time. And I feel like I still don't really get it.
>Asuka is STILL hot as frick
Indeed. And I actually keep hoping for a reboot, where Asuka gets her limelight as the protagonist. The show could still be about loneliness, but in a different way.
>but what really struck to me (as a lonely teenager) was how terrible Shinji and Asuka were to each other, despite both desperately yearning company at the same time. And I feel like I still don't really get it.
Because they're both dumb, inexperienced teenagers. Shinji stands there and lets Asuka kiss her, doesn't even kiss her back, doesn't hold her.
it's insane how Asuka was begging for shinji's dick the whole time but the idea that a hot girl would ever actually be into him was so inconceivable he fumbled it at every opportunity
again, very relatable!
>they're both dumb, inexperienced teenagers
Yeah, but at the same time, I felt I would have done better. Either as Shinji or Asuka. And that's why I was so frustrated... they already have "everything" they want, but still manage to be frickups!
>she can't take a real first step and has to couch everything in shit tests and layers of veiled disinterest
This is why I think she could be a protag. To really explore her over-coping mechanisms. Shinji is a very passive protag, but with Asuka, we could have a wild, manic ride.
>the theme of moving on from failed relationships hits a lot harder as an adult who has grown up with Eva. It was a really nice sendoff to older fans.
I'm sure some people can view it like that. Me, however, I guess I'm still stuck idolizing teenage relationships. And the way the Rebuilds end, feels so alien. How can a series like this, have such a straight forward and happy (clichéd, even) ending? I refuse to accept it.
>I felt [normal kid] would have done better than deeply traumatized kid
no shit
>I guess I'm still stuck idolizing teenage relationships. And the way the Rebuilds end, feels so alien. How can a series like this, have such a straight forward and happy (clichéd, even) ending? I refuse to accept it.
well don't take it the wrong way, but you might be someone who that ending was directed at 😉
we all have to move on sometime.
maybe it just hit me harder because it mirrored stuff that was going on in my personal life. but I think if you look back honestly on your teenage feelings and relationships (or the relationships that never happened, like shin+asuka), it's not as rose cored as you think it is.
rose colored*
The thing is you can still have "teenage" moments in adult relationships provided you, the male, make the girl feel young just by taking the lead.
As expected from the master Anno.
on top of all the normal awkwardness and miscommunication that two 14/yo would have, asuka has all her self worth and shit wrapped up in unhealthy coping methods so she can't take a real first step and has to couch everything in shit tests and layers of veiled disinterest to try to protect herself from perceived rejection. shinji is also terrified of rejection and feels that if he does the wrong thing everyone around him will turn on him and kick him back to the curb so when in doubt (all the time) he defaults to doing nothing if no one is telling him what to do.
It was rather telling in my rewatch leading up to the screening that none of the adults in Shinji's life are particularly reliable. I don't really blame them, the internet isn't a thing in Evangelion's universe so you can't google
>My teenage son is super moody what do I do?
Misato was in over her head when she chose to be Shinji's guardian, so it was always going to be a dysfunctional setup. In particular, in the film, I thought Misato's last conversation with Shinji was HORRIBLY irrational, I suppose befitting of someone about to die from blood loss (and blowing up). Seriously, first she says
>Shinji, from here it's up to you to decide
and then not a few seconds later
>SHINJI YOU HAVE TO FIGHT I WON'T FORGIVE YOU
and then the adult kiss with the promise of more I mean holy frick that is a wild scene that doesn't get enough attention I don't think. You can't tell someone it's up to them to decide and then force them into a corner. It's no wonder Shinji is so fricked up, none of the adults around him are fit to be parents.
agree 100% in general though that ones forgivable for me since it's in such a life or death high stress situation, she's able to do a bit better in less extreme circumstances earlier. for me the scene that really stuck out was how terrible the advice kaji gives him in the scene where he's staying the nigh is. goes off on some poetic tangent about how men & women will never truly understand each other because he got dumped once and never got over it, god damn the kid just needs some practical first-step help. but in general yeah the adults are all dealing (or rather not dealing) with the same issues as the pilots, they just have better facades and more developed if not more healthy coping methods, with gendo being ultimate example.
>but in general yeah the adults are all dealing (or rather not dealing) with the same issues as the pilots, they just have better facades and more developed if not more healthy coping methods, with gendo being ultimate example.
BINGOOO goddamn it's so simple but I couldn't put this into words myself. That's why NGE is so appealing to me. The adults are just reflections of the pilots but with masks on.
>goes off on some poetic tangent about how men & women will never truly understand each other because he got dumped once and never got over it
The thing is I think he's right, but that's not what he should have said to Shinji in that moment.
>Shinji likes Misato because she’s just Asuka with a mature/motherly mask on
It all makes sense now.
Agreed, some of the relationships hit a lot harder as a teenager, although as an adult I understand some of the themes better intellectually. I will say that's one reason I really liked 3.0+1.0 as a capstone to the series 20 years later, because things like Shinji paralleling Gendo and the theme of moving on from failed relationships hits a lot harder as an adult who has grown up with Eva. It was a really nice sendoff to older fans.
100%, growing up watching the show you see shinji and gendo as being polar opposites, and as somebody with daddy issues that really hit me. but growing up and realizing how much they actually shared in common and how the son is doomed to live in the father's shadow unless they break the cycle of trauma, that really hit different. plus as a kid you idealize shinji + asuka's relationship a lot more and can't see how unhealthy it really is past those teenage hormones. i'm really glad they didn't ship shinji+asuka in the end, the theme of letting go and leaving that moment in the past was perfect.
There aren't that many important times in your life. Puberty, adulthood, parenthood, empty nest, grandparenthood. That's it. Anything else is more about specific events that aren't exactly universal.
It's ultimately a 35 year old man writing about his own arrested development. Using the visual composition of his childhood genre touchstones to tell that story is wholly appropriate.
I still don't get the whole Rei/Yui/Lilith/Kaworu frickery.
Rei was a clone of Yui's DNA mixed with Lilith's, then she melted with Lilith and became a giant god thingy and Kaworu is somehow also a part of the god? then Shinji rejects instrumentality and because of that Rei-Kaworu-Yui-Lilith-god gets decapitated and fricking dies?
>Rei was a clone of Yui's DNA mixed with Lilith's, then she melted with Lilith and became a giant god thingy and Kaworu is somehow also a part of the god?
There is no good answer to this portion I promise you. I've given that a really good think.
> then Shinji rejects instrumentality and because of that Rei-Kaworu-Yui-Lilith-god gets decapitated and fricking dies?
Lilith et. al decapitates because it's artsy and cool, but yes, Shinji rejecting Instrumentality directly resulted in that. But Lilith doesn't die, as shown by the Rei ghost Shinji sees right before choking Asuka. Lilith will continue to watch over humanity.
Kaworu appears because when instrumentality occurs, everyone is greeted by their favorite person. The giant Rei monster freaks Shinji out so it appears to him as Kaworu instead
Haven't seen the show.
But it's just NG:E then End right? Don't have to worry about evangelion 2 and 3?
yeah just release order
I dont watch tranime
ITT: Pretentious 16 year old autists use a huge number of words to say absolutely nothing
i'm a 26 year old autist tyvm
>Pretentious
Only insecure and immature people use a word like that.
>Calling a spade a spade is considered immature
Truly is a clown world.
>worst fricking anime series ever made
>>>>>>>>>>
animated film
>ever
>ever
Never
hadnt been to the kinoplex in years. its was good. the subs were weird but whatever.
I glanced at the first few posts and their replies and there are literal fricking homosexual morons in this thread who had never seen End of Evangelion before who are complaining about Komm Susser Tod not playing at the right, "ideal" part.
holy fricking shit every single one of you fricking moronic secondary subhumans need to die
I don’t understand how people aren’t constantly having these conversations within themselves.
Meant to respond to
Weird.
They just don't care. Case in point:
Literally nothing he said was "pseud", in fact everything he said besides Anno + psychedelics is correct.
>everything he said besides Anno + psychedelics is correct.
I'll defend that actually, psilocybin mushrooms were legal and widely available in Japan during the 90s and parts of Evangelion are so deeply psychedelic that I really have no doubt he had exposure. I do think it's a cop out to say anything artistic is just "le drugs dude", and no doubt Anno is an intelligent and creative guy beyond that. But it's not really a big stretch when you know just how prevalent shrooms were in Japan during that time.
If you believe that's fine anon I can't say you're wrong since I wasn't attached to Anno's hip.
I also like GitS more than Perfect Blue, but you've definitely confirmed your silliness. Yes, the average individual prefers simple stories and simple entertainment. I hope this isn't the first time you're learning this.
That sounds kinda dull, I'm happy you're successful and happy however. I'd probably kill myself if I ever stopped being the me I am now, ever introspective, ever fascinated with art and such.
shut up homosexual, holy shit
Or what? You're gonna reply to me again?
Personally, I'm doing it less and less. I only just turned 28 but I can feel my own boomerfication happening in real time. The intensity of my emotions are so dull compared to a few years ago, and most of the introspection I do now is usually only spurred on by some outside influence, like my buddy or drugs. I am also relatively successful and happy though, so I think that may factor into it.
End blog. I still love Eva
I’m 29 and I think I do it more now than I ever did. 2022 broke me pretty badly. Getting out of an emotionally abusive relationship and losing my 2 best friends to suicide. Watching this movie last night helped me process some things. I understood it a lot more now than I ever did. But maybe it’s all subjective? Perhaps it’s just our circumstances that determines our level of introspection.
Holy frick thought I missed out but there's a showing at my local theater, thank you OP
You made me check and frick me there are six more showings in my county. I'm gonna go to at least three.
My local theater original listed last Sunday and this Wednesday.
They just gave it one more day on Friday.
I think it must be doing pretty well for a limited run. Both screenings were almost full.
That's great news because while I did indeed just buy three more tickets to three more showings, I'd love to do this again in a year or five. The screening I attended last night had about 60 people so that was groovy. It wasn't noisy at all, I'll remember that forever. I've read anecdotes that some people had giggling at Shinji's cum and other scenes, hope to avoid that.
What is Asuka's pussy like?
I think it would be the cleanest, best pleasure.
I want to lick it and sniff it.
Like bags of sand.
canon pusy shot
pubic mound