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People who understand Watchmen know this to be true. Brainlets who have never even read Watchmen disagree.
Watchmen is a critique of Reagan-era American machismo and the inherent fascism of superhero comicbook characters. Snyder took it all at face value and was all RORSCHACH IS LE BADASS
p pathetic
>the inherent fascism of superhero comicbook characters
Ah yes the inherent fascism of a bunch of characters made by israelites who are known for their strong fascist leanings
Go to bed alan
>doesn't understand how vigilantes acting outside the law to punish "degenerates" appeals to a certain type of authoritarian fetishist
actually, I don't believe you, because if you've been on this board for more than a month you know how much Rorschach gets sucked off here for being le based trad killer of freaks
also the whole police obsession with The Punisher is a bit sussy baka
so yeah, you're being disingenuous little shits, no one is that low IQ as to genuinely not get the obvious connection
> for being le based trad killer of freaks
How is that a bad thing?
did I say it was?
You seem very defensive about this...
first going with
>no one even thinks superheroes have anything to do with fetishizing vigilante justice and authoritarianism
and now
>yeah and what's wrong with fetishizing vigilante justice and authoritarianism?
can't exactly keep your story straight, but what else can be expected from someone speaking in bad faith?
You obviously implied it. Why be disingenuous?
Can you define fascism for me?
Economic liberaralism
Social conservativism
It’s basically just authoritarian centrism.
I’m NTA though, so I would expect far more buzzwords in his definition.
I know what it is, I really just wanted his definition lol
Fascism (/ˈfæʃJzəm/ FASH-izəm) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and the economy that rose to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.
This isn't how Mussolini describes fascism and he invented it.
Fascism was the Italian branch of the Third Position. It set out to organize society in a way where everything works towards the good and glory of the state.
ok?
people get too caught up on the superficial elements of the regime
>fascism is when you act agaist the law
>fascism is when you act outside the state
>the only fascism possible is the specific one that was aimed against israelites, therefore israelites are immune to it!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's like saying that racism is hatred towards black people, so black people who don't hate other black people can't be racist.
This is what's taught, yes.
If you knew anything about Alan, you'd know that he's a socialist first and foremost. He'd gladly sacrifice millons, as long as those millions were bourgeois cishet white men, preferably Christian. Not exaggerating, here. He would.
jews are super fascist, just look at israel's immigrant policy
>Jews
Superheroes were made by people who weren’t talented enough to get newspaper strips
The fact that a lot of them were israelites is secondary
>Jews can't be fascist
Black person israel is a fricking ethnostate. israelites are arguably the most fascists of people. They're the ones who subvert entire nations by appealing to government institutions to enforce everything from forcing genital mutilation to arresting people for Holocaust denial. I'm willing to be you're a fricking israelite for even bringing israelites up like they are incapable of (insert evil here). Best case scenario you're a dumb goy. Worse case scenario you're a fricking israelite who dodged the ovens.
>Ah yes the inherent fascism of a bunch of characters made by israelites
this is what happens when you learn about politics on /misc/. have a nice day
>and the inherent fascism of superhero comicbook characters
are the fascists in the room with us now, anon
>take my vigilante in ridiculous outfits SERIOUSLY!
lmfao get a life idiot
>RORSCHACH IS LE BADASS
I disagree with Rorschach (Ozymandias did nothing wrong) but it's hard to deny that he was a badass
Ozymandias was wrong, but history dictates that might makes right "in the end"
>Ozymandias was wrong
About what?
In the general sense of murder of innocents
The survival of the species is the absolute highest moral imperative. This is natural law.
Can you tell me why it's wrong to kill millions in order to save billions - without appealing to any books of Semitic fairy tales?
Our species functions as a collective organism. Just as in our individual bodies, we have a duty to eliminate parts of ourselves when doing so aids in the survival of the whole.
Lol you’d probably pull the switch on the trolley too, because “hurr 5 more than 1”
Hell yeah I would.
The only people who wouldn't are cowards.
Too afraid or too weak to shoulder the moral burden.
No, pulling the lever is actually the only morally wrong action.
You seem to literally be on the spectrum, and thus reducing ethics to a utilitarian math formula suits you.
>No, pulling the lever is actually the only morally wrong action.
Why? Morally wrong according to what logic?
The survival of the SELF is the highest moral imperative. Muh community, muh species is cope. I'd go AWOL if i got conscripted.
Morality comes from justice. Right and wrong. Aggressor and victim. Unprovoked violence is wrong, even if the result is "good". And you dont even know if the result is "good" or even justified. Nothing ever ends Adrian.
Reducing salvation of humanity to a ratio/numbers game is flawed. Corrupting that logic to a survival of race, asians are the most deserving of life, and what race has the smallest comparative population that should be sacrificed? hmmmmmmm
>how can you tell I’m a psychopath?
>Why yes, i am a stepfather to 8 of Chad's children! I have a moral imperative to secure the survival of our species, they'd wither and die if i didnt do my duty!
>both “arguments” are disingenuous strawman
Are you a delusional ideologue, or a israelite? You argue like one.
Worship your chains slave
autism? check
lolbertarian? check
Why dont you have a nice day and let 5 homeless people move into your abode then? Its gonna be the hottest summer on record, they're definitely gonna die from heatstroke! One for many right?
Fricking collectivismcucks never follow through
>The survival of the SELF is the highest moral imperative.
Individualism is poison. It leads to societies of miserable, rootless consumers.
We find meaning and fulfillment through our folk.
>Unprovoked violence is wrong, even if the result is "good"
Why?
>Corrupting that logic to a survival of race, asians are the most deserving of life
Ultimately, whoever fights the hardest for survival is the most deserving of life.
That’s the irony is the best society for any individual to live in is a high trust society, which ironically is the easiest for psychopathics to exploit. This necessitates the creation of a Guardian class whose primary purpose is to remove them.
>which ironically is the easiest for psychopathics to exploit.
I don't think this is necessarily true. People are more likely to turn a blind eye to such behavior in a low trust society, since they feel no civic duty to prevent it.
Fair point, but I would say moreso that a low trust society is where that behavior has become the norm. But in general it’s represented by the prisoner’s dilemma. Simple scenario: You’re in a culture where lying is an unthinkable action. Imagine the advantages you could garner simply by lying.
I get where you're coming from
Social safeguards should be in place to prevent predatory behavior
>I'd go AWOL if i got conscripted.
Then you get executed for desertion. Gene pool improved. Simple as.
this is what americans actually believe
Ikr the movie is way better
thats it? people think thats deep?
comic book nerds are not the brightest bunch
there's a magic in finding something provocative within something so low brow and overly consumed
>RORSCHACH IS LE BADASS
yeah, pretty much
>Snyder took it all at face value and was all RORSCHACH IS LE BADASS
He didn't but you did, idk how you could look at Rorschach in that movie and think 'this guy is A-ok'.
He is rather badass tho
>Watchmen is a critique of Reagan-era American machismo and the inherent fascism of superhero comicbook characters. Snyder took it all at face value and was all RORSCHACH IS LE BADASS
>p pathetic
>superheroes are fascists
way too oversimplified. moore's rorschach was a criticism of steve ditko's objectivist characters. dr manhattan was completely amoral and detached from humanity. silk spectre and nite owl were sexual deviants and fetishists. comedian was a nihilist even though he tried to have a moral compass occasionally. ozymandias was a megalomaniac, narcissist and consequentialist who was willing to kill people to achieve his goal.
>people mad at Zack Snyder for Watchmen because they didn't use the squid ending.
I'll agree Doctor Manhattan was a poor choice but it didn't complete ruin the whole movie for me. The only other bad thing was music placement choice. I'm pretty sure using "99 Luftballoonn," though appropriate for the theme of the movie, was not a good idea to put it during a dating scene.
I think your the brainlet here because he wasn't portrayed as a saint in the movie.
perhaps snyder just realized that moore is a brainlet slave moralist and decided to make a better story
it was a good movie
I thought so too in 2009.
Tried to rewatch it recently, could not finish it.
I read it and it was as good of an adaptation as the comic book could have gotten. Reminder that not being a completely brain dead picture story does not make something literature, and only coping Cinemaphilecksuckers would disagree.
Yeah no.
Not an argument.
Complete bullshit, all of the fight scenes are basically a frame by frame adaptation, just with the usual Snyder action style tacked on.
Nothing in the original suggests that any of the characters are "old and schlubby" when it comes to beating the frick out of some low level thugs or cops, that's just your inner contrarian desperately trying to come up with details that aren't there to keep hating the movie.
>all of the fight scenes are basically a frame by frame adaptation
>opening fight Comedian vs Assassin
>comic shows a punch and a kick and then the Comedian is thrown out of the window
>movie fight with much slow motion where the Comedian throws his cup, then fires a gun, gets slammed into a wall, there's an exchange of 17+ punches, then a brutal knee, then there's more punching including through walls, Comedian gets thrown into a table that shatters, gets thrown around again implausibly far, throws a knife and then another, which is caught and thrown back; he picks up a third knife and there's an extended punch/knife-stab fight (from the sound effects, it's another 17 hits or attempts), then the Comedian's hand gets brutally broken, he gets slammed through a table, and finally thrown out of the window
And all of that was fricking kino
TYBZS
this.
it gives away the twist in the first scene because it establishes that whoever killed the Comedian is a god-tier physical combatant and there are only a few characters in the world who are on that level.
>it gives away the twist in the first scene because it establishes that whoever killed the Comedian is a god-tier physical combatant and there are only a few characters in the world who are on that level.
to be fair, movie ozy doesn't look like he could do that shit
>whole point of the fight scenes is that they're ugly and uncinematic and that the people in them are old and schlubby
>WOWOWOW 300 STYLE CGI EPIC FIGHTS OMGGGGGGGGGGGGG
sure thing bro
>i skimmed through the word balloons and it matches the film script so therefore the film adaptation is good
braindead snydercuck trying to drag the comics down to his level
...it's a comic, moron. It's for children. No amount of edge or pseudery is gonna change that.
same applies to the film, except snyder does not have that level of self awareness
what is there to understand?
>who watches the watchmen, they are too powerful for their own good
Zack Snyder doesn't understand anything
You need to be an edgy teenager to enjoy his movies
or a shitskin
Black person your post makes no sense at all.
>You need to be an edgy teenager to enjoy his movies
>he said in a thread about Watchmen
>Zack Snyder doesn't understand anything
This
The first rule of capeshit is to have hot women, what audience will want to see skeletons in every movie? Exactly, nobody went to see
Top row
> no
> yes
> yes
> only because she was my childhood crush
Bottom row
> no
> yes
> no
> no
Dis homie really said no to margot and yes to gadot
Correct.
Leaving alone the obvious facial mogging, even in the fridge department margot is a double door and gal is some mini used by college dorm students
>even in the fridge department margot is a double door and gal is some mini used by college dorm students
i haven't laughed at anything on the internet in a long time, but this got me good.
thank you anon.
For me, its the lithe and feminine creature second from the right on the bottom
Am I the only one that finds Amy way more attractive than the rest?
yikes
YOU TAKE THAT BACK THIS MAN IS A SCHOLAR AND A PHILOSPHER
He's right, you know?
Based Snyder dabbing on comics autists
Fans have no say in storytelling or production.
which is why Snyder should have taken Alan Moore's advice and never made Watchmen
Zack Snyder should have never made movies, period. He Should have just stayed to music videos. All his movies feel like music videos gone sentient anyways.
>gone sentient
not at all
Listen to the master explain why it sucked.
Damn I remember this. Absolutely based.
"Fans of Watchman Don't Understand Watchman, or They'd Realize it's not that Good".
Alan Moore is the smartest moron I’ve ever heard speak. His stories and characters are interesting but god damn he is bad at reading contacts.
>Zack Snyder doesn't understand 4:3 aspect ratio
Now I agree.
That's true though. Snyder is a well-known moron.
But he just made frame for frame comic adaptation?
He even replaced alien threat with a more credible one - dr manhatn
I just thought the movie was boring
owl plane was pretty cool
Glad there are a few intelligent people awake right now. The film was a pretty comic-accurate depiction visually, but thematically it was a complete fricking mess. Snyder is too optimistic for this sort of heady material, and it shows. It's actually amazing how hard it misses the point while also still looking good.
Fricking this. Its only good for panel to panel recreation but fails at other fundamental things. Should've been a limited animated series.
You guys keep saying this, but what exactly? What themes did he miss specifically? What did he "misunderstand" about Watchmen? How could he have made it into a more accurate adaptation that it already was (with the exceptions being replacing the squid monster and removing the psychiatrist subplot, I agree he shouldn't have done those)?
>extended sequence of hallway fisticuffs not relevant to plot
>leaves out the entire tales of black freighter
>no giant squid alien
>no dr malcolm long
>"nothing ever ends" line is given to silk spectre instead of manhattan
>no newsman bernie
the movie had absolutely no subtlety, capeshit adaptations usually have this problem
black freighter sucks
Tales of the Black Freighter are in the extended (almost 3-hour long) edition. The rest I agree with, though I still don't see how they make the film a terrible adaptation, Game of Thrones had 10 times as many things cut and the first 5 seasons are praised as a good adaptation of the books.
>the movie had absolutely no subtlety
Again with the fricking euphemisms, this is what I mean. How?
oh we can break it down scene by scene if you want
>movie opens with comedian being attacked by mystery man. they fight. comedian almost holds up on his own until it's obvious he's clearly overpowered
>in the comic the detectives speculate there was a fight but we see that's not the case. blake didn't fight: he KNEW who was coming for him and why, and he was a broken man who almost welcomed death after having everything he believed in smashed in by a joke too cruel yet too right that he understood perfectly
tl,dr: mystery man beats an old man to death vs neatly choreographed fight scene with sappy music because that's cool
It was cool. I'm not going to pretend it wasn't.
I don't understand the notion that Zack Snyder wrote the Watchmen movie. David Hayter and some other guy who rewrote his screenplay did. What Snyder did was rework the ending and reinterpret the visual style of the movie to focus on comic book films instead of comic books, and wallow in orgies of ultraviolence as an aesthetic.
Just because you change something doesn't mean you "don't understand that". That's a cope from fanboys.
>wallow in orgies of ultraviolence as an aesthetic
You say this like it was some intentional commentary for Watchmen, yet every single one of Snyder's movies is like this. He's just a airhead who likes cool stylised violence, it's not deep.
>yet every single one of Snyder's movies is like this.
Of course they are. Look at how The Snyder Cut added extra violence to the Wonder Woman museum scene in post, because he wanted to make a statement about how humans can't possibly defy the Gods. Violence is an aesthetic. And aesthetics are meaning.
hahaha
>Violence is an aesthetic. And aesthetics are meaning.
Dude, that's like deep bro
this but unironically
>He's just a airhead who likes cool stylised violence
Sounds like he understands his audience
Bro youre so smart, thats why the movies you make are so much better than his!
the first fight scene shows that
watchmen was supposed to be a real world and only dr manhattan would have powers and the fight at the beginning of the movie is unreal and absurd and snyder once again brought actors that shouldn't be there, spectral II should be 15 years old and not 32, his fiancée's hate loses impact because she gets angry that he dumped her for a woman half her age, snyder ias a hack and dumb
Huh? Silk Specter is in her 30s by the the events of the story. Her glory days are behind her, but no so much that she is middle-aged yet.
The movie is better than the manga. I'm not convinced the manga is even really 'about' anything except subversive capeshit
Zack Snyder blows
Watchmen is capekino
He filtered millions
wasn't the movie basically 1:1 scene to scene to comic book anyway except the boogeyman in the end?
I watched the movie and cartoon series (basically narrated original comic) and I would swear it was almost the same thing except for stylization
Zack Snyder's Watchmen felt like if Frank Miller had done the story. Also there were multiple scenes where Snyder didn't understand the connection between the visuals and the words.
The original comic was criticizing superheroes while the film was adoring them.
Zack is literally fricking moronic
Americans never understand Moore
Shit like this is why a movie can never do it justice. Watchmen is a comic book story through and through. The more you get the medium, the more you appreciate what a masterpiece Bolland drew.
bump
I've never seen this acknowledged by another person: but I really hate when Silk Spectre is talking to Rorschach and she says "I've been using my real name a while now, try it". Except she doesn't pause at the comma and just smashes right through it. How does the director not teach this moron what a comma is.
https://clip.cafe/watchmen-2009/the-comedians-dead/
You're right, that's really bad
Also props to them for actually making Rorschach a manlet
>Except she doesn't pause at the comma.
Wow movie ruined, valid criticisms all round folks. Snyder truly is a FOOL
He doesn't. He just looked at the pretty pictures and thought "oooooooh" like a 9 year old.
Snyder's ultraviolence highlights a society coming to pieces on the eve of doomsday. Snyder is a midwit but he's still smarter than the midwits who didn't notice this.
Bcjvhjb
>alan moore said comic unadaptable
>it adapts fine, assuming you want it to bomb on arrival
snyder thinks he was being subversive because he fought to make sure the film included the "god exists and he's american" line. then you see his superman jesus and it all starts to make sense
jesus wasn't american
>meant to be a satire
>the director takes it seriously
Snyder is an autist
There are satirical elements in Watchmen but the characters and philosophical dilemmas are still taken pretty seriously
The whole thing is a satire. Ozymandias is treated in the same way that the general who tries to start a war with russian in Dr. Strangelove is. These are people that have such a feeling of self-importance that they feel they can make the decisions which affect the rest of the world. People like this should be rejected instead of revered including the so called 'heroes'.
>Ozymandias is treated in the same way that the general who tries to start a war with russian in Dr. Strangelove is.
Snyder even referenced that movie visually.
Visually but not thematically. It should be absurd. He instead treats them like greek gods.
Thematically, too. You just missed it.
Snyder is way too interested in how the supes crotches look like to understand absurdity. To me, its like the Top Gun or Elm Street 2 of movies. The writer understood how gay it was but the director didnt.
>Snyder gave Ozymandias Batman & Robin bdsm nipples
>Anon doesn't think Snyder understands the absurdity of the text
there's a difference between presenting the characters in a critical light and not taking them / the themes seriously
People believe the ending is a moral dilemma when it is the most clear cut thing imaginable. That is the fault of the director.
it's not clear cut at all, neither in the movie or the book
Its pretty clear cut in the book unless alan moore thinks it okay to kill millions of people.
if it's clear cut you shouldn't have to appeal to what the creator may or may not believe
how does the story itself present ozy as being wrong
Because he murdered millions to achieve his utopia? Why is it so hard to understand why that is wrong and how it touches on theme of placing decisions in the hands of those who believe themselves to be serving a higher purpose.
you have autism
>People believe the ending is a moral dilemma when it is the most clear cut thing imaginable.
What part was clear cut anon? The genocide or betraying the personal beliefs of every single character or lying to the world or
the movie and every watchmen media after the original comic is utter garbage
The big thing most comic book gays miss about the movie is that Zack Snyder wanted Watchmen to be a commentary on movies. Not just comic book movies, but action movies as well since this is about vigilante justice. But also any other kind of movies.
>Production Designer Alex McDowell will grant that much. "For Zack, it was really important to hit the 30 images that the fans carry with them from the graphic novel. And for himself: to know that those big beats would be respectful. But we made some big changes in the threads between those. One of the huge contributions Zack made to this -- which will really be apparent when you watch the film -- is that there are layers and layers of pop cultural reference on top of the Watchmen reference and on top of the pop cultural references already embedded in [the graphic novel]," he says. "Because we have the hindsight of 20 years and the knowledge that Apocalypse Now is embedded in the consciousness of the audience, if you want to play "The Ride of the Valkyries" over Vietnam, you've added an entire other reference layer that puts you in another space."
>McDowell says they were empowered by Snyder to go deeper and deeper into the pop cultural references and to even add their own, including Taxi Driver, Dr. Strangelove and The Man Who Fell to Earth (whose table tennis room was McDowell's personal contribution to Dr. Manhattan's baroque abode but which did not make the theatrical cut).
>"What we were able to do was extract all of that richness from the graphic novel and really put it in… There are all of these Easter Egg clues and I think it's going to be a way of reading this film that is going to last for years: there are clues that are deep, deep, deep within it. It's going to be a frame-by-frame analysis of it."
The over-the-top action sequences with kung-fu and slow-motion is there to mock other action movies. Though in this movie it is made extra shocking and gory to show ugly violence can be.
Continuing for those that think Snyder isn't aware of the satirical nature of Watchmen:
>But apart from the design, the cinematography, the visual effects and all of the other intricate technical challenges, Snyder insists that the tone was the hardest part. "I'm obsessed with tone. And I wanted to make a movie that was satirical and also serious at the same time. You want the movie to be self-reflexive but not let the viewer off the hook completely. If you feel like it's a complete satire, then the problems aren't real and they're all manufactured to make a cultural point and it doesn't matter. But if you can make it slightly self-reflexive where there's an idea [that's] not totally in [your] face, then it's trying to break through. We didn't do anything by mistake -- that's the thing that's interesting about Watchmen."
>>I wanted to make a movie that was satirical and also serious at the same time.
Autistic snyder haters BTFO yet again. He really is the ultimate midwit filter.
snyder's daughter committed suicide cause she was too embarassed of his shitty films.
Reminder that the studio hated Snyder for not making the movie a generic action-oriented capeshit movie. They hated the idea of several cuts and wanted to take out the best scenes.
>Still, Snyder concedes, there were crucial moments that he would not compromise when the studio suggested certain cuts. "And, of course, the funny thing is that when I was getting ready to shoot the movie, we had updated the scripted to equal the storyboards, and they were like, 'We've looked at the script and we feel we've identified three areas where you can cut: The Comedian's funeral, Manhattan goes to Mars -- nothing happens there -- and you don't need to interrogate Rorschach -- you don't need to know anything about his backstory.' I said, 'Look, if you cut out all those things, which you absolutely could do... I would wager a lot that this would just be a plot-driven movie... and this is not the movie I want to make'.
And what's the excuse for Sucker Punch where he had 100% creative control
WB literally butchered the movie because it was filled with sex scenes, most specially rape.
Don't forget consensual rape slash lobotomy kink.
Release the Punch Cut!
Snydergays are autistic atheists who will be next in line for the Gulag given their ambivalence about genocide.
>gulag
but communism were the autistic atheists supporting genocide
Who do you think the dear leaders sent first?
Political dissidents and lumpen intellectuals.
Snyder is right-wing, I doubt the average edgelord calling him a hack, someone who "doesn't understand" etc. online is a conservative.
Hes an objectivist. Hes only interested in what best serves him. He'd be a communists if the state gave millions to make movies and a luxury apartment.
>Snydergays are autistic atheists
It's literally the oppostie. Snyderchads are deeply spiritual while snyder haters are fedora tipping redditors.
Last attempt: People who don't like Snyder always use the same criticisms: he doesn't get it, he doesn't understand the themes of Watchmen, only morons like his movies, etc. What are those things he didn't understand? What would a Watchmen movie made by a director who "gets it" look like? What makes Watchmen a "dumbed-down" version of the comic?
The film revels in the action, glorifying the violence and justifying the assault and battery perpetrated by the cishet white protags as a necessary evil. The comic is muted and allows us to see the violence for what it is: the gross intolerance of fascists, the ugliness of the bully made temporarily sympathetic by the cycle of violence that births them. When Hollis Mason is killed by the Knot-Tops, it's not supposed to be tragic. You're supposed to think
> I'm glad that fascist got his comeuppance. What an ironic death.
The comic hates the reader for misunderstanding it. The film rewards misunderstanding.
>Hollis Mason
>fascist
why, because he was a policeman in the 1930s? lmao you're as delusional as the snydercucks. he was one of the nicest minutemen. only regrettable thing he did was kick out that lesbo from the team. he was the closest to a real hero the series got. the reason his death was ironic was because it was a case of mistaken identity since he had passed his mantle on to the second nite owl, and the mob beat him with his own trophy. and yes, it's tragic to see an old man getting assaulted like that, you soulless freak
He was a fascist. He deserved to be beaten to death, and the children that found his body should've pissed on his corpse.
>He was a fascist
again, why? nowhere in the comic is he anything other than a nice old man recalling his glory days, and the memoir passages show he was a decent young man with well adjusted morals.
you accuse the movie of glorifying violence yet you want to desecrate someone's corpse? is this the birth of an epic new horseshoe theory, where snydercucks and snyder haters are basically the same?
Because he perpetuated violence as a nonmask and mask. He outed vulnerable minorities in his book and used slurs against queer-coded characters.
>PoliceMAN
>SuperHERO
These are code for fascist, in case you missed it.
No.
Dude you're neither funny nor convincing.
>scary media analysis
Grow up.
That's the thing about fascism, it stains the mind. All fascists deserve death.
>fascism is... le bad
grow up
Yeah, it's bad. Ever wonder why everyone IRL hates you and everything you embody, why they blame you and your ilk for every atrocity? It's because fascism is bad.
that's just like your opinion man
>my grandma is... LE BAD
your grandma deserves death? don't be so heartless
no you just don't get it
not wanting people to die = fascism and bad
cheering on people dying = wholesome and tolerant
those gosh darn fascists and their morals, s.m.h
I would sacrifice everyone I know to kill every white man globally. Chew on that, and realize that that's not some fringe view. Its how the majority feel. Maybe then you'll realize how much we hate you.
Yes.
>watchmen adaptation glorifies violence
>unlike me who just wants to commit mass genocide including my own family
fricking nutcase lmao
another chud who doesn't understand
To bring an end to fascism, racism, colonialism, imperialism, climate change, economic collapse and hate crime? Absolutely. It's the only way to achieve an equitable, self-sustaining existence. White men are the root cause. Much like Ozymandias, it's for the greater good.
>edge
This is mainstream. Every PoC you come across thinks this way.
jokes on you, I don't come across any pocs, place I live is fully white
the final redpill for ending fascism is ending your own life. go on, tie the noose
Don’t cut yourself on all that edge, friend.
oh god so many words. just say he kicked the lesbian out of the team. shut the frick up, it was the 30s, if you consider that fascist, then your grandma is also one
He's trolling, don't take him seriously.
so the movie is based and the comic is cringe
got it
>cishet white
Oh good, I can’t ignore the rest of your homosexual ass post.
I though he did a decent job for something so massive to tell in one movie.
>"understand" a dumb comic book about people with super powers
lol manchild
>comic book about people with super powers
more like one guy with superpowers who is completely alien towards humanity now, and the rest of the vigilantes are messed up psychos. it's actually a pretty relevant response to modern soibois who worship capeshit.
>"UHHHH WHAT IF SUPERHERO BAD?"
wow, so cool and original
yes it unironically was cool and original back then, thanks for agreeing with me. yet dc and marvel only learned the worst and most superficial lessons that watchmen had to offer. it continues to be one of its kind and no comic since then has been more influential
i think i'm having a stroke
the letters in the OP image looked like German
>I would sacrifice everyone I know to kill every white man globally. Chew on that, and realize that that's not some fringe view. Its how the majority feel. Maybe then you'll realize how much we hate you.
Zack Snyder perfectly understood Watchmen and that's why he realized the original ending was dumb.
people who understand watchmen know that it is a comicbook. the movie did turn out way better than i expected, zack snyder can make a really terrible movie if all goes wrong