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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fassbinder was a genius, but yeah, very gay. Querelle is a great film but one of his more polarizing ones. Almost won Golden Lion because Marcel Carne loved it, but he got in a debacle with Tarkovsky over it and the Lion went to Wim Wenders (can't remember what film).

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Extreme zest

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ugly cover art, but simultaneously hot and arousing. Is the movie any good? I have only seen a couple of the director's films.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What have you seen? It's probably one of his most difficult watches, and you should probably watch a couple of the films he made right before that first.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    honestly looks like a /weg/

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Was this cover made by AI?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's by Astra Zero and it looks like he's done a lot of very gay art so good choice by Criterion.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The person who made the cover admits to using ai to speed his work up, no wonder the cover looks like shit

      it seems to be a 3D model? i think the idea is probably to represent the aesthetic artifice of the film, but a 3D model is a misguided choice as the film is artificial in a completely different way, borrowing more from early German Expressionism in it's overly stylized sets

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        misguided or not it looks like shit and likely used with ai

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i wonder if Twitter hipsters will call out Criterion for that, although not sure if they would even be interested enough to notice, Fassbinder didn't make manchild sissy shite, he was a hardened psychotic gay making actually challenging and interesting shit while on a shameless downward spiral

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    hawwwt

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The person who made the cover admits to using ai to speed his work up, no wonder the cover looks like shit

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Absolute dogshit cover art. Criterion are such pussies for not using the original.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait a minute...

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Would've been hot without the chicken legs

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Bit harsh I think

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this movie really symbolically and emotionally captures the stress and shame of being homosexual.

      this art really captures that, the erect penis is made out of brick and mortor and is an indestructable structure that looms over the man menacingly, with dark unfriendly colours.

      the man is backed against the wall that is the erect penis, and he has a knife out to attempt to defend him self having been backed up against that wall.

      the movie pretty much entirely reads as a movie about internalized homophobia, how stressful and painful it is to be gay.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Every Fassbinder movie is painful to the core. Guy was a tragedy machine. His own life was psychotic in a very cinematic way. I was hoping someone would make a biopic, and then someone made one but it was some horrid attempt to replicate late Fassbinder style while also not adapting the real events, but just meshing a bunch of factual things with uninteresting bullshit the director came up. Movie is called Enfant Terrible, and it's terrible.

        No, but it’s funny that he makes pro-immigration propaganda, a whole movie with the message that Germany needs to “LET THEM IN” (innuendo intended) but in real life his jasmine-scented refugee relationship led to abused children and stabbings.

        He hated himself and was on a constant downward spiral. His films were more or less a personal cope, but it made for compelling and exceptionally well directed cinema. But often difficult to watch. Although he never limited himself to socio political cinema. Berlin Alexanderplatz, World on a Wire for example, probably two of his famous works, are not really about such things. And his gay / lesbian themed movies were usually not about social pressures but internal conflicts.
        Really, the only film where it's straight up |evil whitey, good colored man" is Ali: Fear Eats Soul. It's also, ironically, probably his most accessible film, and out of the ones I've seen the only optimistic one in tone. Reminded me of Kaurismaki even.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Would anyone dare fund a movie where 15 year old Fassbinder goes around Cologne getting fricked by Turkish migrant men for money then somehow manipulates then 16 year old Udo Kier into doing the same but giving Fassbinder half the money Kier gets from the Turkish men?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this movie really symbolically and emotionally captures the stress and shame of being homosexual.

      this art really captures that, the erect penis is made out of brick and mortor and is an indestructable structure that looms over the man menacingly, with dark unfriendly colours.

      the man is backed against the wall that is the erect penis, and he has a knife out to attempt to defend him self having been backed up against that wall.

      the movie pretty much entirely reads as a movie about internalized homophobia, how stressful and painful it is to be gay.

      I thought that was a mini lighthouse he was leaning on

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Salem was born El Hedi ben Salem
    m'Barek Mohammed Mustafa in a small
    village in Morocco to a well to do Hartani
    family. At the age of 15, he married a 13-year-old girl. He and his wife eventually
    had five children and settled in a town
    near the Atlas Mountains.[2] By the early
    1970s, Salem had left his wife and children
    and moved to Europe.[3]

    >In early 1971, Salem met German film
    director Rainer Werner Fassbinder at a
    homosexual sauna in Paris, and the two
    began a romantic relationship.[4] He
    moved to Germany with Fassbinder and
    became a part of the director's entourage.
    He played several minor roles in
    Fassbinder's films. Fassbinder eventually
    cast Salem in the lead role in Ali: Fear Eats
    the Soul (1974), a film that explores
    xenophobia in post-World War II Germany.
    In the film, Salem portrays a Moroccan
    immigrant living in Germany who begins a
    relationship with an older German woman
    whom he eventually marries.[5] The film
    brought Fassbinder worldwide critical
    acclaim and became Salem’s best known
    role.[3][6] Throughout the mid-1970s,
    Salem continued to appear in
    Fassbinder’s films in supporting roles. His
    final onscreen role was in Fassbinder’s
    romantic drama Fox and His Friends in
    1975.[7]

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      next time you will be making shocking revelations that Pasolini was a pederast?
      Fassbinder fricked Udo Kier btw and prostituted him out while they were both underage, idk why you missed that, it's one of the funniest parts in his biography

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I just think it’s kind of funny that these are the people who make pro-immigration propaganda.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >leftist is a leftist
          No way. Next time you will also make a shocking revelation that Eisenstein was homosexual.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, but it’s funny that he makes pro-immigration propaganda, a whole movie with the message that Germany needs to “LET THEM IN” (innuendo intended) but in real life his jasmine-scented refugee relationship led to abused children and stabbings.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Fassbinder's boyfriend killing himself is not an isolated thing. Armin Meier also killed himself.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fassbinder was a crazy c**t. Ironically only his female partners managed to tolerate him consistently. Even tho he was a woman beater.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Salem and Fassbinder's relationship was reportedly tumultuous. They fought frequently due in part to Salem's short temper, which turned violent when he drank.[4] While Salem and Fassbinder were living together in Germany, Fassbinder convinced Salem to bring his two teenaged sons, who lived in Morocco with Salem’s estranged wife, to live with them. Against their mother’s wishes, Salem brought the boys to Germany. The arrangement did not last long as the boys were unprepared for life in a different culture, and they were frequently subjected to racism.[3][8] While Fassbinder considered the boys his own, neither he nor Salem was up to the task of raising children.[3] Both frequently drank, took drugs and often left the boys with various friends.[3] One of Salem's sons returned to his mother in Morocco, and the other went to different homes and finally a reformatory.[3]

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >In 1974, Fassbinder ended the relationship due to Salem's violence and drinking.[4] After the breakup, Salem's alcoholism worsened. Director Daniel Schmid, one of Fassbinder's close friends, later told film critic Roger Ebert that shortly after the break up, Salem got drunk and "went to a place in Berlin and stabbed three people."[9] Salem then returned to Fassbinder and told him "You don't have to be afraid anymore."[10]

        >After the stabbings, none of which were fatal, Salem fled to France aided by Fassbinder and his friends.[11] Schmid later recalled that Salem had to be “virtually smuggled out of Germany" and that Fassbinder cried the entire time they were driving Salem out of Berlin.[1] In France, Salem was arrested and jailed. While in custody at a prison in Nîmes in 1977, Salem hanged himself.[9][12][13][14][15][16] News of Salem's death was kept from Fassbinder for years. He did not learn of his former lover's death until shortly before his own death in 1982.[11] Fassbinder dedicated Querelle (1982), his last film, to Salem.[13]

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The most heated criticism came for his play Trash, the City and Death, whose scheduled performance at the Theater am Turm in Frankfurt was cancelled early in 1975 amid charges of antisemitism. The play is about an unscrupulous and very greedy israeli businessman in Frankfurt who ruthlessly uses German guilt over the Holocaust to make himself rich.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >whose scheduled performance at the Theater am Turm in Frankfurt was cancelled early in 1975 amid charges of antisemitism
            Shut It Down

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a homosexual sauna
      Is there any other kind?

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Blue Velvet 4k
    nice

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is possibly the gayest movie ever made. Even the set architectural details are designed to look like dicks.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The cover art looks extremely gay, so I'm glad it is on brand at least.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This may be the worst Criteron cover art I’ve ever seen. I was about to post this image but OP beat me to it

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love men

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The film ends with the sailors aboard Le Vengeur, presumably about to leave port. A heartbroken Lysiane, spurned by Querelle, conducts a tarot reading for Robert: she realizes that he and Querelle were never brothers after all. As Lysiane laughs maniacally, we see Querelle's birth record transcribed on-screen.
    What does it mean? Can the auteur in this thread explain the deeper meaning?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      theres vibes through out the movie that querelle and robert are in love with eachother. robert never gives up trying to be a good man, including being heteronormative and hetero sexual, but querelle descends into degeneracy, and engaging in homoeroticism.

      you find out at the end that they aren't even related, that they aren't actually biologically brothers. so atleast in a purely biological sense, the strange feelings that they have for eachother are not neccessarily wrong, although one could argue that they are still psychologically brothers and thus them acting on their feelings would still be wrong.

      So then it is symbolic of the conflict that homosexuals have with their own feelings. is my love legitimate? is it just a corruption of what should be normal brotherly love?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Somewhat this. There are undeniably incest implications because at some point the main character falls in love with a man who looks identical to Robert who we're meant to believe is his brother for the majority of the film (these two characters are played by the same actor).
        Also the Wikipedia summary doesn't mention that the tarot readings are recurring. I don't remember how many are there, but I definitely remember that the film also starts with a tarot reading. But I could be mistaken.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Somewhat this. There are undeniably incest implications because at some point the main character falls in love with a man who looks identical to Robert who we're meant to believe is his brother for the majority of the film (these two characters are played by the same actor).
        Also the Wikipedia summary doesn't mention that the tarot readings are recurring. I don't remember how many are there, but I definitely remember that the film also starts with a tarot reading. But I could be mistaken.

        So is it a kind of biological examination of the innate shame of homosexuality rather than an internalized social one, where relationships between men are innately brotherly and thus if homosexual innately incestuous which would explain the shame? Then is the ending meant to defuse that shame, by boldly stating that they aren't brothers?

        Or is it a far darker and more personal look at it, as many homosexuals struggle with sexual deviancy and quite possibly literally incestuous feelings, and it is meant as an unflinching look at the darker aspects of homosexuality? That doesn't explain the revelation at the end though.

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