>biology >modern medicine >They're the same thing
Your brain is smoother than my balls. Bad b8, try harder shill.
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Imagine how stupid you'll feel if you get a forearm meat loaf or an origami flesh taco now, then.
*shrug*
I'm not the one on the wrong side of history, chuds.
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>wrong side of history
no such thing. now kys gay
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You just said -you- were, though... if the sex change tech only gets better, you're the one on the "wrong side" if you support transitioning now.
2 weeks ago
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Technology will advance and change biology as we know it. Time is definitely on our side. You, meanwhile, don't get to breed and will leave the genepool for good. 🙂 i would feel pity for you but honestly, your rightwing brainworms have transformed you into a spiteful ulcer. Good riddance.
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lol
2 weeks ago
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Your grandchildren will all be trans. 🙂
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and you will never be a woman
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I already am. <3 and you will never get a piece of me.
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>read that in a man's voice
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>I already am
kek
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Christ
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>you won't breed >the children of your children will be trannies
Jesus christ first day as a fed? Your bait doesn't even stay consistent.
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Trannies are only 0.005% of the population and they're voluntarily castrating themselves, so that's kinda not going to happen.
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>Trannies are only 0.005% of the population
That's just a shitty lie. In the US alone we are up to 2.7% and growing every year.
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>and growing every year.
at a rate of -41%
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God I wish.
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Makes it easier to write them out of the will
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He never said that
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he said that thoughever
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according to snopes and politifact.com he did, chud
2 weeks ago
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You just sound mad and frustrated. Probably self loathing. 🙂
2 weeks ago
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Broski you're getting this all wrong lmao meds now, and no I don't mean estrogen
>perform Frankenstein operations >flip cock inside out into a cock that looks like a fake vagina >stitch limp flesh with a rubber tube for piss onto a vagina to act as a new penis (it doesn't act like a penis) >take permanently damaging hormones and other concoctions
yeah this is totally sane. trust little kids when they say they're a different sex great idea everyone.
Can't take leftists seriously. Braindead useful idiots, all of them.
On top of all of that, the individual will literally never actually be the opposite sex. Demonic operations. All surgeons deserve decades in prison, unironically.
I assume this is referring to the absolutely retarded Twitter rhetoric aimed at refuting the definition of a woman as an "adult female human". If anything, saying a chair is a horse helps to prove how feeble minded the post modern gender revisionist is. Pointing out that the vast majority of definitions are not perfect is sophomoric, and is a full throated indulgence in the continuum fallacy. No matter what the gender revisionist tries, they always fail. Being a thing and saying you are that thing are two separate states.
>when women are victims
You mean like the lady who said Bret Kavanaugh gang raped her? Or the lady that said Trump raped her? Or the lady that said Aziz Ansari raped her when it was really just a bad date? Or mattress girl who said she was raped and was so traumatized by it she filmed a porno recreating it?
>pol/cels need physical evidence
Rape kits have existed since the 1970s. How come none of these dizzy bitches thought to report their assault AT THE TIME and get his DNA as proof? Try reporting a physical assault even six months later without any evidence except "emotional trauma" and see how responsive the cops are.
>and 30 years probation
uh how come no ones mentioning that part. look at the dude, you think hes gonna stay crime free for the next 30 years? this is just a sneaky tactic, he will be in jail 28 of those 30 years
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rochester-man-given-180-days-010400765.html >He will not be required to register as a sex offender.
Really odd thing to cherrypick when African Americans make up a disproportionate group within prisons and frequently get much longer sentences. If you're going to bait with bullshit like this, pick better instances.
For those who didn't read the article: >committed rapes at 15 >never went to court because COVID >plea deal required he be tried as an adult, but only probation, community service, and a "program" >he will almost certainly fail the terms of his probation >probably got fucked (heh) worse than if he was tried at 16
Three random exes all conspire together to get him independently? One randomly filed a claim in 2002 and the other independently made up the same claims before the case?
They reached out to the police again because Leah Remini had some bigwigs in the Scientology church on her show in 2017 after they left. This made the victims feel safer.
Which means shit. Like all those witness testimonies claiming their teachers were molesting them and turned out to be bogus. You can’t convict someone is murder on just witness testimony. Yet he’s getting more time than first degree murder cases
I will. I’ll fucking do it. I’m crazy. Bonkers. Out of my mind. I am totally off my rocker and have no shame. I got some screws loose. Lights are on but nobody’s home. I’m insane. A lunatic. Batshit fucking crazy.
>did you say in 2003 he raped you?
No >in 2018 during the height of the me too movement and 15 years after a 3 year long relationship would you say he raped you, back then?
No, not necessarily.....
But after thinking about it for over a decade, I didn't like having sex with my then-live in boyfriend everytime we fucked >guilty, 30 years
Islam is right about women, they honestly shouldn't be able to vote or give testimony in court. And men who don't agree should be castrated.
they were cajouled into writing statements saying they consented by senior members of the cult they were in.
Why do you think they wrote the statements in the first place? Do you not find it a bit peculiar that a selection of women randomly wrote statements saying that Danny didn't rape them in the early 2000's? Do you think they just got up one morning with the uncontrollable urge to write personal statements saying that Danny MAsterson wasn't a serial rapist?
Circumstantial evidence corroborates a narrative. It doesn’t definitely prove something happened. A jury votes on emotion. None of your “peers” give a shit about logic or facts. Just if you feel guilty or not. Total bullshit.
that's why I stay away from women. I refuse to be alone with one at any given place. They've got too much power and most of them are fucking abusing it. All they need to do to screw a guy's life is a false accusation.
testimonies are notoriously unreliable let alone testimonies about something that happened 20 years ago
he gets more years than a murderer based on nothing more than "dude, trust me"
It was a he said she said incident, which was why the first time this was bought to trial, it was a mistrial. However this time, they had actual evidence of scientology intimidating and threatening the witnesses and accused. And that was what ultimately decided the case.
Witness testimony is some of the weakest evidence around. I'm not saying that as a gotcha but it's just how it is. Eyewitnesses especially are notoriously unreliable
Isn't the very foundation of American (and western in general) justice system the whole "not guilty until proven otherwise"? California is a fucking hellhole.
>innocent until proven guilty
And you have to be found guilty without a shadow of a doubt. Unless you're a white man and a woman said you did the ultimate no-no to her, but all we have to go by is who tells a better story. Then it's guilty because who really cares, it's just a white guy, he'll probably just end up committing suicide if he doesn't go to jail anyway.
>not guilty until proven otherwise
All that means is you need a jury to convict before they will fuck you over. It doesn't matter how flimsy the case is, if the jury wants it and the judge wants it, then you can be imprisoned and even killed.
>let women vote >they lessen all criminal offense jail time for almost every crime >they completely do away with holding violent criminals on bail so they can't reoffend while awaiting trial >let all felons out of jail because its "mean" to pay for your crimes
>but they will unironically pass laws that put someone away for 30 years because he "raped" his girlfriend 20 years ago with absolutely zero evidence
Because if we let standards slide like this, then one day it could be YOU. >Some girl doesn't like you, a bitter ex-gf you dumped >Claims you raped her >Locked up for 30 years despite her not having evidence
>you did nothing wrong >but she said you did >and so does her best friend who she "told" about it right after "it happened" >and it happened 20 years ago
30 to life, rot in jail scumbag
>you did nothing wrong >but she said you did >and so does her best friend who she "told" about it right after "it happened" >and it happened 20 years ago
30 to life, rot in jail scumbag
It's all going to be disproved in court. Maybe don't have a shitty corrupt Justice system? It's that easy.
>seriously, why even be upset that the justice system is clearly broken and is being abused to let violent criminals roam free but locking up guys just because someone claimed they did a thing with no evidence to back it up
Because we're not all brain dead gays like you.
what kind of a pussy thread is this? who gives a shit about him. toss him in jail. you fuckin' contrarians have to defend every dumbass out there without thinking for two seconds. virgins.
the fact that this douchebag rapist getting 30 years triggers you incel man-babies so much that you feel the need to whine about it every 3 hours is hilarious. keep crying. cant wait for Biden to win again next year so we can watch your internal meltdown in real time.
The rape was reported right after it happened and two others came forward
The initial investigation was damaged by Scientologist meddling in the LAPD.
Danny Mastersons lawyers fucked up by leading the witnesses down line of questions that allowed Scientology to be brought into the case. Scientology also prohibits figures like Masterson from making statements entered into the court record. He went down do scientology wouldn’t
They are lucky their wasn’t witness tampering and conspiracy charges tied in
>his lawyers: okay danny, the charges are rape, from 30 years ago. this is basically impossible for them to even prove, so all we gotta do is make them prove anything even hap-
danny: yes your honor, we did have sex >lawyers: what the fuck man, thats their job, you do-
danny: and it was violent sex >lawyers: holy fuck could you fuckin stay quiet for like 2 fucking seco-
danny: but your honor, they wanted it >lawyers: c-can we quit, can we just leave, i mean, atleast its just one persons word against ou-
danny: all three of them >muffled sounds of lawyers jumping from 11th story windows
>no evidence
the women said he did it. Are you saying women might lie? >inb4 the women admitted that they just assumed he drugged them and they didn't actually know whether he did
are you saying that women might be wrong?
WOMEN! ARE! PERFECT!
And if you disagree, then you support rape culture
long term intimidation/abuse of power. basically, its one thing to rape someone, its another thing to rape them, and then spend 30 years stopping every attempt they make to get justice while telling them if they even speak youll destroy their family, make them lose all their friends, and cost them their jobs.
did he do this? dunno, but thats the logic behind it.
>Be /misc/ >complain bitterly about the amount of predators, perverts, pedophiles and degenerates that exist in Hollywood >complain when one of them gets sent to prison
shut the fuck up. Weak willed pussies. The only thing I'm surprised about is that this scientologist fuck wasn't involved in some kind of child prostitution ring.
>complain when one of them gets sent to prison
They're complaining due to no evidence aside from hearsay. You'd know that if you read a couple of posts in any of those threads. Dimwit.
“Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact”
I don’t know what you think Cinemaphile is but you aren’t having fun, stop browsing. Don’t want a grumpy sourpuss on this board, bro.
Why are you fagoos dick riding this garden gnome haired loser so hard here? I didn't follow the case and idk whats real and not but there are a ton of people saying he's a problematic, abusive, rape, animal abusing, nutter butter. Who cares if he's getting gaped in prison rn.
it didn't. raping a woman whilst hilding a gun to her head then having your scientologist goons intimidate witnesses will get you 30 years behind bars.
fuck you, you subservient cuckold.
Hi welcome to Cinemaphile. You’re a stupid whiny moron. I hope your favorite black celebrity rapes you and calls you racist online so a raging group of fanboys launch a smear campaign and ruin your life. And then I hope that moron makes a movie out of it and you get only get a share of the dvd sales
Real Cinemaphileners (that’s what we call ourselves, duh, look it up) are libertarians and couldn’t give a single fucking shit about what other people do as long as it doesn’t affect me. NIMBY to the max. Keep your cum slurping gayry to the coasts and away from my corn
The only way this case shouldn’t terrify you is if no woman ever has or ever will know you exist. Otherwise it’s just hoping every day you never pissed off a woman EVER in your life enough for her to just point a finger. >him
And just like that, life in prison. Wow what a great world to live in. >but he’s a douchebag!
Irrelevant. I don’t want to go to jail for crimes I didn’t commit. Why are so many here not worried about this
i dunno, i didnt say it officially on the record that i did have violent sex with 3 women, and then turn around and say "but they wanted it". ill get worried about it when it gets to that point
Oh yes dude it’s totally about Hollywood. Let’s just throw out any standard of evidence and convict any man anywhere for any crime and give him 30 years with 0 evidence and no statute of limitations. What could possibly go wrong.
It’s Scientologist spam. Notice how they never attack the post that mention the Scientology influence in the case with their witness intimidation. They just attack the victims the suppressive persons
Who gives a fuck about Scientology. For it to be relevant to the case they need to prove that a) they did do all the intimidation(they didn’t), and b) he was somehow involved and it wasn’t just Scientologists protecting their own reputation(they didn’t prove that either).
Why did Kutcher and Kunis decide to destroy their acting careers over this steaming sack of shit. Were they blackmailed by scientology or just retarded?
its a bit convoluted.
in the 2000's scientology wanted to cover-up Masterson's shenanigans so they had some kind of faux internal investigation where they pressured the victims into writing accounts of what happened that would let MAsterson off the hook. In the first trial the statements were admissible as evidence but they were not allowed to mention the church of scientology and its influence on the statements being produced or mention scientology at all. Hence the disparity between the scientology statements saying they consented and the police statements etc where they said they did not consent.
in the second trial they were allowed to talk about scientology and masterson got convicted in 2 out of 5
Yes
It all blew up in 2017 because of Leah Remini doing her investigative reporting and Tony Ortega doing investigating reporting on Scientology pressure on the victims and the LAPD
lmao that one was hilarious >and your saying you didnt say these things or make these claims >yes >are you aware your own lawyers submitted the last 4 years of your cellphone records, and yesterday was the last day they could of had them stricken from the record, easily, but they just forgot >......no >so, did you or did you not say these things >....WELL...I GUESS YOUVE GOT THE RECORDS NOW. SO. UHHHHH. YEAH. I GUESS
lmao
intimidation and harrassement of roughly 250 families, with the direct incitement of harassment and defamation of the 28 families whose children died. he publicly acknowledged they happened and he did it for profit.
he had his company file bankruptcy and told the judge it was so he could continue to sell water filters
>a country that has a free speech laws?
america has always had a vibrant litigation culture surrounding defamation etc. They're all convinced that they live in a country that is the sole bastion of freeze peach, yet they live in constant fear of being sued and fantasize about sueing each other over the most trivial things.
Alex Jones deserves all that and more for placating his show to be FACTUAL ANTI CORRUPTION RADIO while BRAIN WASHING RETARDED MIDDLE WHITE AMERICA that the GOVERNMENT STAGED family's of a real tragedy of years of harassments and abuse.
I stink we should extend blame to people in the mob. Ignorance of facts is no justification for violence.
Liberals are pushing the Transgender topic to make people want to make bio engineering a thing to remove unwanted traits from your offspring. Which would be for the betterment of mankind honestly. Imagine how much better life would be if everyone was designed to be the best their parent's genes could offer?
I certainly wouldn't want my offspring to have the health or physical flaws society deemed not economically viable. Once everyone is at the best they can be, than actual talent, and personality will be more on the forefront of discussion.
>Curious so I decide to look for arguments about the evidence >Find some guy on Reddit crying about how testimonies can't provide proof beyond a reasonable doubt >Doesn't actually know anything about the case at all >Arguing about how they should be lowering the age of consent to 14 >Hundreds of comments arguing about pedophilia, grooming, the age of consent >Constantly in several foot fetish subs >Even more deleted/removed comments all over the site >Begging girls for messages/adds and making comments about how his cock is throbbing and he's about to cum
Which one of you is this?
i mean it's not like the government just dumped their bodies into the sea like osama bin laden
there must be graves
but who knows
maybe they were all incinerated in an oven
It was a he said she said incident, which was why the first time this was bought to trial, it was a mistrial. However this time, they had actual evidence of scientology intimidating and threatening the witnesses and accused. And that was what ultimately decided the case.
oh and danny going >oh yeah i did have sex with all three of them, and it was violent sex >but they wanted it
it went from he said she said it happened at all to >well it did, but how did they feel about it
hate women all you want, lmao, but wew, reducing a trial to your word vs 3 was the dumbest possible shit one could do.
imagine telling a female judge and the females on the jury >yeah, but your nasty sluts into that shit
even if its true, lmao what the fuck did you expect
And he was still only charged for 2 of the rapes with the 3rd being a mistrial due to a hung jury. Because as much as Danny fucked up, the accusers also fucked up their stories too. In the end, actual evidence aka the letters Scientology were caught sending determined the case.
Weinstein dindunuffing all they had on him was hearsay and witness testimony....some of it decades old.
Why support Masterson but not Weinstein. Both were garden gnomes but at least weinstein wasn't a Scientologist and mirimax was based af.
Of all the injustices in the world you choose to fixate on the weasel-eyed, brillo-haired, talentless Scientologist
>You pussy morons have your priorities fucked up. >Why support Masterson but not Weinstein. Both were garden gnomes but at least weinstein wasn't a Scientologist and mirimax was based af.
i have more respect for weinstein because all the girls thought they had to say "yes" to get what they wanted. masterson just drugged and raped them at gunpoint & toyed with them using his faggy "church". weinstein never killed any dogs. masterson never made any good movies. weinstein should at least be allowed to produce kino from jail
Weinstein did nothing wrong except from an ethical point of view, in that I wouldn’t want him as my employee. But he offered those chicks a deal. Some took it and some didn’t.
>Some took it and some didn’t.
..... and he destroyed their careers in retaliation. it was blackmail anon.
pic is mira sorvino who was effectively blacklisted for refusing to service weinstein. there were many others
People are always more likely to sympathize/empathize with those to whom they are similar.
I would wager that most Anons have more in common with the guy who played Hyde on That 70s Show than an old fat garden gnome with a micropenis.
Kevin Spacey is a difficult one.
On the one hand supporting Spacey triggers the fuck out of normiees and he was aquited. On the other hand he's a dirty, predatory gay who most likely raped prepubescent boys with Bryan Singer.
>rape >all the "rape" happened at his house, after the women went back to his house with him >the "victims" kept in contact with him, and spent several nights going back to his house after the "rape" >20 years after the "rape" they come forward, and his life is destroyed >Their stories changed several times during the investigation
Like many have said in this thread, it was a he said she said, till we got the scientology reports. What happens in scientology is that when the members report a higher member, everything is recorded and attempts are made to resolve it inhouse. So what happened was Scientology's report basically corroborated the accusers statements which was what fucked him up.
Ironically, if they just went to the police, he would have gotten away.
You can tell who are the tourist or who are the anons that got skin deep knowledge about this case. He got acquited back in 2020 when the only evidence was witness testimony. What changed this time was the scientology reports.
>no evidence
They literally had hours of witness testimony.
I know a guy that claims the same thing about Bigfoot.
by that standard we have evidence for alien abductions and trannies being real women.
>by that standard
but it isnt
>chopping your tits off and skinning your forearm to make a meat sausage dick makes you a man
That's not how biology works retard
Yeah it does, since in less than 10 years medicine will have evolved so far as to make that a reality.
>biology
>modern medicine
>They're the same thing
Your brain is smoother than my balls. Bad b8, try harder shill.
*shrug*
I'm not the one on the wrong side of history, chuds.
>wrong side of history
no such thing. now kys gay
You just said -you- were, though... if the sex change tech only gets better, you're the one on the "wrong side" if you support transitioning now.
Technology will advance and change biology as we know it. Time is definitely on our side. You, meanwhile, don't get to breed and will leave the genepool for good. 🙂 i would feel pity for you but honestly, your rightwing brainworms have transformed you into a spiteful ulcer. Good riddance.
lol
Your grandchildren will all be trans. 🙂
and you will never be a woman
I already am. <3 and you will never get a piece of me.
>read that in a man's voice
>I already am
kek
Christ
>you won't breed
>the children of your children will be trannies
Jesus christ first day as a fed? Your bait doesn't even stay consistent.
Trannies are only 0.005% of the population and they're voluntarily castrating themselves, so that's kinda not going to happen.
>Trannies are only 0.005% of the population
That's just a shitty lie. In the US alone we are up to 2.7% and growing every year.
>and growing every year.
at a rate of -41%
God I wish.
Makes it easier to write them out of the will
He never said that
he said that thoughever
according to snopes and politifact.com he did, chud
You just sound mad and frustrated. Probably self loathing. 🙂
Broski you're getting this all wrong lmao meds now, and no I don't mean estrogen
lmao new chud cope just dropped. check 'em btw
Imagine how stupid you'll feel if you get a forearm meat loaf or an origami flesh taco now, then.
>mutilated humanity is good
dystopian
What point is that meme trying to make, because I don't think it's the one it as trying to make
It just shows how retarded and flimsychud logic is.
chuds be like
>I am a desk now
>*ACK*
How original. Get new material.
Wooden chairs are just mutilated trees, yes.
Trans people just point to a tree and call it a chair.
Gender is not cosmetic.
>Transphobes be li-ACCKKKKKK
>perform Frankenstein operations
>flip cock inside out into a cock that looks like a fake vagina
>stitch limp flesh with a rubber tube for piss onto a vagina to act as a new penis (it doesn't act like a penis)
>take permanently damaging hormones and other concoctions
yeah this is totally sane. trust little kids when they say they're a different sex great idea everyone.
Can't take leftists seriously. Braindead useful idiots, all of them.
On top of all of that, the individual will literally never actually be the opposite sex. Demonic operations. All surgeons deserve decades in prison, unironically.
kek, ikr
/pol/cels always embarrass themselves, bringing up transfolk for no reason
I assume this is referring to the absolutely retarded Twitter rhetoric aimed at refuting the definition of a woman as an "adult female human". If anything, saying a chair is a horse helps to prove how feeble minded the post modern gender revisionist is. Pointing out that the vast majority of definitions are not perfect is sophomoric, and is a full throated indulgence in the continuum fallacy. No matter what the gender revisionist tries, they always fail. Being a thing and saying you are that thing are two separate states.
>humans are just objects
Mutilated tree, yes.
Its definitely still wood, in the same way a trannies chromosomes are still a mans.
The post that destroyed /misc/
>food analogy
41% now
Not an argument.
lol, the tree Is now dead
The chair you'll kick over when you realize you've ruined your own pathetic life.
/misc/ btfo
They will talk hours about that shit. Heckin valid.
/pol/cels need physical evidence when women are victims but oddly enough not for any of their cuckbrained conspiracies.
>when women are victims
You mean like the lady who said Bret Kavanaugh gang raped her? Or the lady that said Trump raped her? Or the lady that said Aziz Ansari raped her when it was really just a bad date? Or mattress girl who said she was raped and was so traumatized by it she filmed a porno recreating it?
Oh man I hope aziz gets crucified
Me too but it's nothing to do with that gay rapey shit. It's just because I hate his smug face.
Remember Rolling Stone's Jackie?
How about how apparently one in four college women were raped? That old chestnut?
>pol/cels need physical evidence
Rape kits have existed since the 1970s. How come none of these dizzy bitches thought to report their assault AT THE TIME and get his DNA as proof? Try reporting a physical assault even six months later without any evidence except "emotional trauma" and see how responsive the cops are.
One of them did
A rape kit would be completely redundant because Hyde’s lawyers never contested that they had sex on the nights in question.
>cuckbrained conspiracy
Like that covid came from a lab? Remember that conspiracy?
>the Australian
So yes. Conspiracy theory. Nice try attempting to cut the website name out of the pic when we can just look it up
>we
get the fuck out of here, gay
>needing proof of any crime is dumb
lmao at you
Remember when Joe Biden got accused of rape? All of the sudden believe all women went totally silent.
>it's okay if we do it
oh libtards
lel fucking true
>u-uhhhh that doesn't count!!!!
Witness testimony is the most inaccurate form of evidence used in the court system
Good bait. You get 20 years in thr funny cell, joker.
justify this
Hes disadvantaged by his skin colour. His rapes were motivated by social justice, not degeneracy
Those kids just had it coming.
In contrast those women masterson was dating and kept coming back for more clearly were forced against their will.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rochester-man-given-180-days-010400765.html
>He will not be required to register as a sex offender.
>and 30 years probation
uh how come no ones mentioning that part. look at the dude, you think hes gonna stay crime free for the next 30 years? this is just a sneaky tactic, he will be in jail 28 of those 30 years
>morons can't go 30 years without committing a crime
Really odd thing to cherrypick when African Americans make up a disproportionate group within prisons and frequently get much longer sentences. If you're going to bait with bullshit like this, pick better instances.
>morons commit more crimes
>morons go to prison more
I am astounded
Dindu
For those who didn't read the article:
>committed rapes at 15
>never went to court because COVID
>plea deal required he be tried as an adult, but only probation, community service, and a "program"
>he will almost certainly fail the terms of his probation
>probably got fucked (heh) worse than if he was tried at 16
I can talk about anything you want for as many hours as you'd like
Witness testimony from 20 years ago? How does she even remember it clearly?
I don’t even remember what I had for breakfast yesterday. Or even if I had breakfast.
You'd remember that breakfast if it raped you, dumb ass.
>They literally had hours of witness testimony.
lol, I bet you believe in the holocaust too
>thinks movies are one of the only sources of information available on the holocaust
Lmao imagine letting garden gnomes live rent free THIS bad
the vast majority of english speaking people base it off that, yes.
Women are fucking stupid.
If you’re raped, you go to the police and file a report.
The “evidence” should’ve been thrown out.
None of it legitimate.
>witness testimony
>evidence
I testify you diddle little boy's buttholes.
So long to your freedom.
Then do it, go public and do it. W-wait you won't because it'll be scrutinized?
This. When has a woman ever lied about an ex boyfriend before?
Three random exes all conspire together to get him independently? One randomly filed a claim in 2002 and the other independently made up the same claims before the case?
They reached out to the police again because Leah Remini had some bigwigs in the Scientology church on her show in 2017 after they left. This made the victims feel safer.
Q Anon boomers unironically have better cases built against comet ping pong via their facebook gossip circles than this prosecutor had.
>Women never lie
>Especially about rape
Now where have I seen that before?
>They literally had hours of witness testimony.
Which means shit. Like all those witness testimonies claiming their teachers were molesting them and turned out to be bogus. You can’t convict someone is murder on just witness testimony. Yet he’s getting more time than first degree murder cases
>They literally had hours of witness testimony
The witness testimony:
>witness testimony
Just another way of saying "some bitch said"
>They literally had hours of witness testimony.
Show me the body
Dude, remember the time you raped all those kids? I remember when you did that. I could testify to it for hours and hours
>I could testify to it for hours and hours
do it
I will. I’ll fucking do it. I’m crazy. Bonkers. Out of my mind. I am totally off my rocker and have no shame. I got some screws loose. Lights are on but nobody’s home. I’m insane. A lunatic. Batshit fucking crazy.
>your honor, id like to refer to my accusers post on the website "Cinemaphile", on the 13th of september 20223, at 17:17:48
never go full retard
You raped me 10 years ago. I have just proved you raped me definitively because I’m providing eyewitness testimony before the court. Enjoy prison
>did you say in 2003 he raped you?
No
>in 2018 during the height of the me too movement and 15 years after a 3 year long relationship would you say he raped you, back then?
No, not necessarily.....
But after thinking about it for over a decade, I didn't like having sex with my then-live in boyfriend everytime we fucked
>guilty, 30 years
Islam is right about women, they honestly shouldn't be able to vote or give testimony in court. And men who don't agree should be castrated.
You forgot the cult he belongs to shill
Did Scientology rape her? If so, they probably should be suing Scientology
they were cajouled into writing statements saying they consented by senior members of the cult they were in.
Why do you think they wrote the statements in the first place? Do you not find it a bit peculiar that a selection of women randomly wrote statements saying that Danny didn't rape them in the early 2000's? Do you think they just got up one morning with the uncontrollable urge to write personal statements saying that Danny MAsterson wasn't a serial rapist?
what, like a pink diary with little hearts on it and all the secret naughty stuff and who's doing whom
Circumstantial evidence corroborates a narrative. It doesn’t definitely prove something happened. A jury votes on emotion. None of your “peers” give a shit about logic or facts. Just if you feel guilty or not. Total bullshit.
that's why I stay away from women. I refuse to be alone with one at any given place. They've got too much power and most of them are fucking abusing it. All they need to do to screw a guy's life is a false accusation.
moron dipshit idiot simp
So then there's an afterlife? The people having NDE's aren't hallucinating, right?
>witness testimony.
HAHAHAHAHAAA
testimonies are notoriously unreliable let alone testimonies about something that happened 20 years ago
he gets more years than a murderer based on nothing more than "dude, trust me"
Hearsay, your honor
So there were witnesses with them during the act? Rapes are usually done when the victim and perp are alone and isolated.
20 years to write a script
>witness testimony
So. Not evidence?
>They literally had hours of witness testimony.
Exactly, by the way, I'm the King of Sicily and I have a 32 inch cock.
>posting on Cinemaphile
I have lot of free time since la cosa nostra does most of the law enforcement and tax collecting.
>la cosa nostra
>cause we're talking about italians
lol
Witness testimony is some of the weakest evidence around. I'm not saying that as a gotcha but it's just how it is. Eyewitnesses especially are notoriously unreliable
He'll by out by the next 70's
it was just their way of telling scientology we're more powerful than you
>Next time on The 70s Show...
>danny masterson 47 year olds
>eligible for parole after 25 years
>70s
kek
A whole new meaning to the name "that 70s show"
no there isn't, gay. go have a nice day
You're just mad your little pedophile discord club is getting exposed, little freak
Nope, I'm mad that you're bringing your reddit/discord/youtube/twitter lingo over to here
Go back to your chud server before I find where you live and drag you into the station myself
Why are discord trannies defending him so hard? I wish the mods would do something.
30 years for 2 rapes is crazy, he must have pissed off some kind of scientology gnomish dude
The fact this happened now, as he was trying to leave scientology sure seems fishy.
Meds, now.
Way to make LRH, DM, and TC proud. Keep this up and you’ll be going clear in no time.
>Way to make LRH, DM, and TC proud. Keep this up and you’ll be going clear in no time.
what does any of this mean kek
Isn't the very foundation of American (and western in general) justice system the whole "not guilty until proven otherwise"? California is a fucking hellhole.
>innocent until proven guilty
And you have to be found guilty without a shadow of a doubt. Unless you're a white man and a woman said you did the ultimate no-no to her, but all we have to go by is who tells a better story. Then it's guilty because who really cares, it's just a white guy, he'll probably just end up committing suicide if he doesn't go to jail anyway.
>white man
This happens to all men, period. They got R. Kelly for 30 years as well. It's not a race thing, it's s sex thing.
that moron made video evidence of the crime with a 14yr you fucking retard
>not guilty until proven otherwise
All that means is you need a jury to convict before they will fuck you over. It doesn't matter how flimsy the case is, if the jury wants it and the judge wants it, then you can be imprisoned and even killed.
>let women vote
>they lessen all criminal offense jail time for almost every crime
>they completely do away with holding violent criminals on bail so they can't reoffend while awaiting trial
>let all felons out of jail because its "mean" to pay for your crimes
>but they will unironically pass laws that put someone away for 30 years because he "raped" his girlfriend 20 years ago with absolutely zero evidence
Rome snd Sparta allowed their women to vote, look how that worked out for them.
Seriously, why go so far to defend some scientologist cuck?
Because if we let standards slide like this, then one day it could be YOU.
>Some girl doesn't like you, a bitter ex-gf you dumped
>Claims you raped her
>Locked up for 30 years despite her not having evidence
If you didn't do anything wrong you have nothing to fear. Works for me, I guess.
>you did nothing wrong
>but she said you did
>and so does her best friend who she "told" about it right after "it happened"
>and it happened 20 years ago
30 to life, rot in jail scumbag
Does your brain legitimately have trouble processing the thought of false accusation?
It's all going to be disproved in court. Maybe don't have a shitty corrupt Justice system? It's that easy.
>It's all going to be disproved in court.
how? there's no evidence for or against
You raped me. It's going to be my life mission to see justice done. You will get what you deserve
>seriously, why even be upset that the justice system is clearly broken and is being abused to let violent criminals roam free but locking up guys just because someone claimed they did a thing with no evidence to back it up
Because we're not all brain dead gays like you.
rapist instincts kicking in
Doesn't matter what he is bro. If they can do this to rich, powerful people like him, they will be able to fucking crucify us.
stop being so melodramatic. just don't become a serial rapist and you'll be ok
reddit has a hardon for scientologists. people on this site slob on tom cruises wiener every time he releases a new superspy movie or whatever
>reddit has a hardon for scientologists
exactly how retarded and hermetically sealed in your own alternate reality are you?
nice ad hominem but i'm onto you seaorg scum your tricks don't work on people like me
>people on this site slob on tom cruises wiener every time he releases a new superspy movie or whatever
CANT BRUISE THE CRUISE
>reddit has a hardon for scientologists
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Chanology
Nice try tourist
any comments from him on the verdict? are we allowed to hear form him or has he already been unpersoned?
what kind of a pussy thread is this? who gives a shit about him. toss him in jail. you fuckin' contrarians have to defend every dumbass out there without thinking for two seconds. virgins.
fire up your brain for once. this shows the legal system will send people to jail with no evidence. its not about this dumb actor. .
fa/tv/irgins have nothing to worry about since they dont interact with women
imagine the crime was something other than rape..... would you want actual proof it happened to convict?
It's petty obvious he didn't do anything. But, he is a scientologist, so it's necessarily a bad idea to send all of them to prison anyway.
Imagine defending a convicted rapist online lmao
Incels gon incel.
the fact that this douchebag rapist getting 30 years triggers you incel man-babies so much that you feel the need to whine about it every 3 hours is hilarious. keep crying. cant wait for Biden to win again next year so we can watch your internal meltdown in real time.
HANGING OUT
hes an ugly gay and if he were sentenced to life for just that i still wouldnt give a shit
>team ugly gaybros, what do NOW???
>>team ugly gaybros, what do NOW???
not be creepy
lol
I keep thinking this photo is Jonathan Frakes from that holocaust denier show.
Is it bullshit? Probably. Am I happy it's happening to this retard. Absolutely
The rape was reported right after it happened and two others came forward
The initial investigation was damaged by Scientologist meddling in the LAPD.
Danny Mastersons lawyers fucked up by leading the witnesses down line of questions that allowed Scientology to be brought into the case. Scientology also prohibits figures like Masterson from making statements entered into the court record. He went down do scientology wouldn’t
They are lucky their wasn’t witness tampering and conspiracy charges tied in
>his lawyers: okay danny, the charges are rape, from 30 years ago. this is basically impossible for them to even prove, so all we gotta do is make them prove anything even hap-
danny: yes your honor, we did have sex
>lawyers: what the fuck man, thats their job, you do-
danny: and it was violent sex
>lawyers: holy fuck could you fuckin stay quiet for like 2 fucking seco-
danny: but your honor, they wanted it
>lawyers: c-can we quit, can we just leave, i mean, atleast its just one persons word against ou-
danny: all three of them
>muffled sounds of lawyers jumping from 11th story windows
Damn its almost like you shouldnt join a deeply corrupted fucking cult or something huh??
>no evidence
the women said he did it. Are you saying women might lie?
>inb4 the women admitted that they just assumed he drugged them and they didn't actually know whether he did
are you saying that women might be wrong?
WOMEN! ARE! PERFECT!
And if you disagree, then you support rape culture
the race of the attackers?
if the allegation was true this would be a perfectly reasonable response.
and life without parole for first degree murder would be a perfectly reasonable response for that response
They wouldn't sentence him without evidence.
Why did he get 30 years
judge was making a joke
>"mr masterson you can have your own show when you get out"
long term intimidation/abuse of power. basically, its one thing to rape someone, its another thing to rape them, and then spend 30 years stopping every attempt they make to get justice while telling them if they even speak youll destroy their family, make them lose all their friends, and cost them their jobs.
did he do this? dunno, but thats the logic behind it.
Scientology horseshit fucking with the investigation and intimidating witness colored the sentencing
If it was just shitty sex and abusive nonsense would have been less but his cult was involved
>Be /misc/
>complain bitterly about the amount of predators, perverts, pedophiles and degenerates that exist in Hollywood
>complain when one of them gets sent to prison
shut the fuck up. Weak willed pussies. The only thing I'm surprised about is that this scientologist fuck wasn't involved in some kind of child prostitution ring.
>complain when one of them gets sent to prison
They're complaining due to no evidence aside from hearsay. You'd know that if you read a couple of posts in any of those threads. Dimwit.
Victim testimony isn't hearsay, dumbass.
These threads prove this website is just endless talk and shitposting with no conviction
welcome to 4chin newgay
“Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact”
I don’t know what you think Cinemaphile is but you aren’t having fun, stop browsing. Don’t want a grumpy sourpuss on this board, bro.
The entire catalog is people having meltdowns about twitter and disney movies. no one is happy here
>half these threads are bot cancer
>75%+ of users are turd world shitters
there's a reason for that
Why are you fagoos dick riding this garden gnome haired loser so hard here? I didn't follow the case and idk whats real and not but there are a ton of people saying he's a problematic, abusive, rape, animal abusing, nutter butter. Who cares if he's getting gaped in prison rn.
/misc/ doesn't seem a problem with raping women because it's filled with a bunch of incel retards. This shouldn't be a shocking reveal to anyone.
Hi children, hearsay shouldn't get you 30 years behind bars. Simple as.
it didn't. raping a woman whilst hilding a gun to her head then having your scientologist goons intimidate witnesses will get you 30 years behind bars.
fuck you, you subservient cuckold.
he tried to be ralphie?
>literal hearsay
see
>problematic
kys
cant even stay on topic of the case
>but what about
your snitch behavior that wasnt beaten out of you in elementary school is showing
This board's obsession with defending rapists and the admin not even bothering to ban and delete this stuff
you sound like a huge gay
Hi welcome to Cinemaphile. You’re a stupid whiny moron. I hope your favorite black celebrity rapes you and calls you racist online so a raging group of fanboys launch a smear campaign and ruin your life. And then I hope that moron makes a movie out of it and you get only get a share of the dvd sales
hi. welcome to Cinemaphile, newgay. We don't like scientologists here, you outstanding member of the african-american community.
Real Cinemaphileners (that’s what we call ourselves, duh, look it up) are libertarians and couldn’t give a single fucking shit about what other people do as long as it doesn’t affect me. NIMBY to the max. Keep your cum slurping gayry to the coasts and away from my corn
I too can read ED and larp as an old fag, you double roody poo candy-ass
Bruh you don’t even know about Newt Gingrich how embarrassing. How can you show your face on this text based anonymous forum looking like such a fool?
why would i know about some videogame character on the /misc/ board
The only way this case shouldn’t terrify you is if no woman ever has or ever will know you exist. Otherwise it’s just hoping every day you never pissed off a woman EVER in your life enough for her to just point a finger.
>him
And just like that, life in prison. Wow what a great world to live in.
>but he’s a douchebag!
Irrelevant. I don’t want to go to jail for crimes I didn’t commit. Why are so many here not worried about this
i dunno, i didnt say it officially on the record that i did have violent sex with 3 women, and then turn around and say "but they wanted it". ill get worried about it when it gets to that point
>board constantly goes on and on about how depraved Hollywood is
>scientologist their comeuppance and he's suddenly innocent
Anon was right, this board doesnt actually believe in anything it says
Oh yes dude it’s totally about Hollywood. Let’s just throw out any standard of evidence and convict any man anywhere for any crime and give him 30 years with 0 evidence and no statute of limitations. What could possibly go wrong.
>intimidates witness
>does typical scientology scare tactics
>rope former coworkers with bullshit testimonies
It’s Scientologist spam. Notice how they never attack the post that mention the Scientology influence in the case with their witness intimidation. They just attack the victims the suppressive persons
Who gives a fuck about Scientology. For it to be relevant to the case they need to prove that a) they did do all the intimidation(they didn’t), and b) he was somehow involved and it wasn’t just Scientologists protecting their own reputation(they didn’t prove that either).
so long as a $cientoid's getting raped tonight who cares?
They apparently did because he was convicted of it
He will be out just in time for That 2020's Show
I had no clue he was married to Bjoio Phillips lul
Celebrity rapist power rankings
1. Weinstein
2. Polanski
3. Cosby
4. Spacey
=5 Donald Trump
=5. Amber heard
7. Russel Brand
8. Danny Masterson.
9. Armie hammer
10. Cuba Gooding Jr
100. Max Landis
.
.
.9000 Woody Allen
Nick carter's going down next.
>100. Max Landis
WHAT?!
HANGIN OUT
IN MY CELL
THE SAME OLD FOOD
I HAD ALL WEEK
NO WOMAN TO RAPE, BUT TO TALK TO YOU
NO PUSSY TO STUFF, BUT THATS GOOD FOR THEM
IM ALL LOCKED, IM ALL LOCKED UP
IN SUPER MAX
Time for an 8th Amendment appeal?
Why did Kutcher and Kunis decide to destroy their acting careers over this steaming sack of shit. Were they blackmailed by scientology or just retarded?
damn the gypsy is really coming out
>Were they blackmailed by scientology
they got dirt on aston
So why are women allowed to say "I consented to sex in the early 2000's" but then 20 years later decide it's rape?
I sincerely don't understand how that works or how that's not a slippery slope
its a bit convoluted.
in the 2000's scientology wanted to cover-up Masterson's shenanigans so they had some kind of faux internal investigation where they pressured the victims into writing accounts of what happened that would let MAsterson off the hook. In the first trial the statements were admissible as evidence but they were not allowed to mention the church of scientology and its influence on the statements being produced or mention scientology at all. Hence the disparity between the scientology statements saying they consented and the police statements etc where they said they did not consent.
in the second trial they were allowed to talk about scientology and masterson got convicted in 2 out of 5
So he did actually rape them and the Scientology freaks covered it up for a long time?
Yes
It all blew up in 2017 because of Leah Remini doing her investigative reporting and Tony Ortega doing investigating reporting on Scientology pressure on the victims and the LAPD
bingo
Where he went he had to rape.
Why are women allowed to be judges?
Remember when a Judge said Alex Jones needed to pay 4 trillion dollars for saying mean things in a country that has a free speech laws?
no, i ignore everything women say so that one flew under my radar
lmao that one was hilarious
>and your saying you didnt say these things or make these claims
>yes
>are you aware your own lawyers submitted the last 4 years of your cellphone records, and yesterday was the last day they could of had them stricken from the record, easily, but they just forgot
>......no
>so, did you or did you not say these things
>....WELL...I GUESS YOUVE GOT THE RECORDS NOW. SO. UHHHHH. YEAH. I GUESS
lmao
what specifically did he say that justified a gorillian dollar fine tho?
That Sandy Hook was fake and gay.
well it is
you don't just choose truths because you happen to like the idea of them. Dumb zoomer
What thread do you think you are in
intimidation and harrassement of roughly 250 families, with the direct incitement of harassment and defamation of the 28 families whose children died. he publicly acknowledged they happened and he did it for profit.
he had his company file bankruptcy and told the judge it was so he could continue to sell water filters
lmao
did they dead tho?
i mean it should be pretty trivial to show the paperwork, death and taxes u know
depends, if alex jones said they did, would you believe him
i would definitely have to look into it
>a country that has a free speech laws?
america has always had a vibrant litigation culture surrounding defamation etc. They're all convinced that they live in a country that is the sole bastion of freeze peach, yet they live in constant fear of being sued and fantasize about sueing each other over the most trivial things.
Alex Jones deserves all that and more for placating his show to be FACTUAL ANTI CORRUPTION RADIO while BRAIN WASHING RETARDED MIDDLE WHITE AMERICA that the GOVERNMENT STAGED family's of a real tragedy of years of harassments and abuse.
I stink we should extend blame to people in the mob. Ignorance of facts is no justification for violence.
pretty weird to see pol and Cinemaphile bend backwards over someone who is pro-vaccine
Liberals are pushing the Transgender topic to make people want to make bio engineering a thing to remove unwanted traits from your offspring. Which would be for the betterment of mankind honestly. Imagine how much better life would be if everyone was designed to be the best their parent's genes could offer?
I certainly wouldn't want my offspring to have the health or physical flaws society deemed not economically viable. Once everyone is at the best they can be, than actual talent, and personality will be more on the forefront of discussion.
Lets see how the rat race works...
meds schizo
>hyde rape thread
>them chuds
>undesirables
struck a nerve I see
them chuds though
>undesirables
Anyone not German?
bot post
Why didn't he just buy his innocence. i thought that was how the American justice system worked.
should have just raped her in an alley in blackface, 10 years tops
oh god. its a 4chan thread now.
statistically, rape is at a historic low so i dont get what the big deal is
And the trany4chan scizos all leave when facts of the case involving scientology show up
The fuckers are a real problem on the chan scizo posting babble
>t. IRS LOSERS
>Curious so I decide to look for arguments about the evidence
>Find some guy on Reddit crying about how testimonies can't provide proof beyond a reasonable doubt
>Doesn't actually know anything about the case at all
>Arguing about how they should be lowering the age of consent to 14
>Hundreds of comments arguing about pedophilia, grooming, the age of consent
>Constantly in several foot fetish subs
>Even more deleted/removed comments all over the site
>Begging girls for messages/adds and making comments about how his cock is throbbing and he's about to cum
Which one of you is this?
damn /misc/ fucking sucks now, gay ass low IQ zoomers have just infested this board
i mean it's not like the government just dumped their bodies into the sea like osama bin laden
there must be graves
but who knows
maybe they were all incinerated in an oven
testimony is evidence.
incels on suicide watch
have a nice day
Masterson is unironically on suicide watch as we speak.
>do the world a favor Danny
It was a he said she said incident, which was why the first time this was bought to trial, it was a mistrial. However this time, they had actual evidence of scientology intimidating and threatening the witnesses and accused. And that was what ultimately decided the case.
oh and danny going
>oh yeah i did have sex with all three of them, and it was violent sex
>but they wanted it
it went from he said she said it happened at all to
>well it did, but how did they feel about it
hate women all you want, lmao, but wew, reducing a trial to your word vs 3 was the dumbest possible shit one could do.
imagine telling a female judge and the females on the jury
>yeah, but your nasty sluts into that shit
even if its true, lmao what the fuck did you expect
>what the fuck did you expect
fairness
And he was still only charged for 2 of the rapes with the 3rd being a mistrial due to a hung jury. Because as much as Danny fucked up, the accusers also fucked up their stories too. In the end, actual evidence aka the letters Scientology were caught sending determined the case.
Weinstein dindunuffing all they had on him was hearsay and witness testimony....some of it decades old.
Why support Masterson but not Weinstein. Both were garden gnomes but at least weinstein wasn't a Scientologist and mirimax was based af.
Of all the injustices in the world you choose to fixate on the weasel-eyed, brillo-haired, talentless Scientologist
You pussy morons have your priorities fucked up.
>You pussy morons have your priorities fucked up.
>Why support Masterson but not Weinstein. Both were garden gnomes but at least weinstein wasn't a Scientologist and mirimax was based af.
i have more respect for weinstein because all the girls thought they had to say "yes" to get what they wanted. masterson just drugged and raped them at gunpoint & toyed with them using his faggy "church". weinstein never killed any dogs. masterson never made any good movies. weinstein should at least be allowed to produce kino from jail
Weinstein did nothing wrong except from an ethical point of view, in that I wouldn’t want him as my employee. But he offered those chicks a deal. Some took it and some didn’t.
>Some took it and some didn’t.
..... and he destroyed their careers in retaliation. it was blackmail anon.
pic is mira sorvino who was effectively blacklisted for refusing to service weinstein. there were many others
People are always more likely to sympathize/empathize with those to whom they are similar.
I would wager that most Anons have more in common with the guy who played Hyde on That 70s Show than an old fat garden gnome with a micropenis.
get out of blue states
So I've been looking into this Scientology stuff and a lot of it seems really based and redpilled. Have any of you guys joined up and been audited?
MAybe its time to try a white man's American religion instead of some garbled nonsense from the middle-east?
have any 4chancels joined up yet?
Kevin Spacey is a difficult one.
On the one hand supporting Spacey triggers the fuck out of normiees and he was aquited. On the other hand he's a dirty, predatory gay who most likely raped prepubescent boys with Bryan Singer.
tricky
>he's a dirty, predatory gay who most likely raped prepubescent boys
Sounds based to me. A true shota connoisseur.
"based" doesn't mean what you think it means.
It sure as shit does as I'm an unapologetic pedophile and would give Spacey a high five if I ever met him in real life.
It’s a pretty kino situation though.
Did he potentially kill his victims? Would make a good movie.
I don't care I think it's hilarious he's going to prison. Shitty actor, shitty show, does he deserve it? Who cares.
>rape
>all the "rape" happened at his house, after the women went back to his house with him
>the "victims" kept in contact with him, and spent several nights going back to his house after the "rape"
>20 years after the "rape" they come forward, and his life is destroyed
>Their stories changed several times during the investigation
>He is still found guilty
Like many have said in this thread, it was a he said she said, till we got the scientology reports. What happens in scientology is that when the members report a higher member, everything is recorded and attempts are made to resolve it inhouse. So what happened was Scientology's report basically corroborated the accusers statements which was what fucked him up.
Ironically, if they just went to the police, he would have gotten away.
Can we rename these threads /lyingwhore/ general?
>Masterson decided not to testify nor call witnesses in his defense
Kek, top retard.
You can tell who are the tourist or who are the anons that got skin deep knowledge about this case. He got acquited back in 2020 when the only evidence was witness testimony. What changed this time was the scientology reports.
There is actual video evidence of it that Scientology filmed.
Not of the rape but of the interview they did post rape when the women reported it within the church.