>"NOOO YOU CANT JUST BE MAD THAT SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED TO YOU! EDGY CRINGE EDGY!"
Why? By this logic, you should never be happy because someone else will always have it better.
>"NOOO YOU CANT JUST BE MAD THAT SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED TO YOU!
>"NOOO YOU CANT JUST BE MAD THAT SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED TO YOU! EDGY CRINGE EDGY!"
Why? By this logic, you should never be happy because someone else will always have it better.
Stop being racist
Why is the girl who's was adopted by anime The Simpsons along the edge lords?It would make more sense if it was her biological mother .
It's a running gag because she has the same hair as Shadow.
She just generally has a bad attitude with people and swears a bunch. Not a complete edgelord, but she has some aspects of them.
>edgelord
did you watch a different show than everyone else?
Read it again.
>swear
>edgy
Are you a Karen?
Excessive swearing compared to everyone else.
>you should never be happy because someone else will always have it better.
No, you should be dragging them down to your level.
Because
>Normalgays: Cringe! you can't just be an irredeemable villain with a tragic history! Edge!
>Also Normalgays: Why are there no good villains anymore ;_; Why does everyone have to be morally complex and sympathetic! Why can't things be like my favorite 80's cartoons?
>hatred
Ok pinko
Edgy Speedball was hilarious though.
Penance was fun to play as in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2
Those two games are great, pretty good roster of supers too. Not bad for capeshite at least.
Agreed. Made a fun combo with that one sound lady from Thunderbolts
Anon, let me explain, these people aren’t real, nor are the bad things that happened to them.
So the “edgy” criticism isn’t criticizing a person for reacting to an incident in a certain way, but criticizing a writer for writing hackneyed samey characters
>but criticizing a writer for writing hackneyed samey characters
see
It's not valid criticism if that's what tends to happen in real life. There aren't many people who have good things happen to them that sets them down the road to evil. And in the exceptional cases where that does happen it is so rare as to be beyond the scope of what comics could realistically convey.
Think Terra from teen titans. Who was just evil for evils sake and nothing bad happened to her to make her that way. And then normalgays threw a conniption about how that wasn't realistic, etc.
No real life person acts like an edgy character putting on trench coats and brooding. That's a reaction to needing attention. Not processing an immensely traumatic psychological event.
>what is neglect
I've met rape victims, including child rape, a guy who was in Iraq for two tours, people who've been in deadly house fires and car crashes and first responders, you know what they act like? morbid, dark sense of humor, sometimes withdrawn, sometimes borderline, none brood and put on trench coats. People don't become outcasts because things happen to them, they become outcasts because they legitimately fail to relate to people anymore, and they go and remove themselves from society and live far away in the woods. Your characters are not good representations of hurt people. They're just goths with more red and a sob story.
Guess what pal. Unless you follow them everywhere you don't know what they are doing behind closed doors.
And unless you can read their mind you don't know if they are a basket-case on the verge of snapping.
Lashing out translates to being belligerent and engage in excess. Going around town dressed in a dollar store halloween costume and brooding is a reaction to needing attention, not processing an immensely psychologically disruptive event. There's a reason edginess is associated with immaturity, real experience makes people not find those things impressive in any way, they look clownish.
They're jokes because nobody believes edgy boys are processing something real if they have it in them to be edgy. That's not going to change, because most people will handle heavy shit during their life and see how dumb it is. Get some life experience outside of over the top entertainment.
how is any of this neglect?
Lashing out isn't acting like a dumbfrick cartoon villain, it's going on alcohol and drug binges, fighting random people, committing crime and having promiscuous sex. Please stop pretending you're talking about real life, you've never dealt with genuinely traumatized people.
again, how is any of this neglect? Stop pretending you know every traumatized person out there
You've repeatedly claimed that this is how people express trauma, and that you know this for a fact. I didn't press you on it because i was certain you weren't enough of a moron to press on it since you obviously have no real life counceling experience.
you ever think about the people that can't afford therapy, counseling and all that shit?
you only deal with the well adjusted traumatized people out there, you don't know how other people deal with trauma, you just live in your little bubble
I've just told you how people that can't afford therapy act moron.
Stop pretending like these characters accurately represent it. They're corporately created schlock that was peddled to you with dead eyes and you slurped it up
Could be that Nothem Portent is a little harder to humanize, specially because he's literally based off the Columbine kids?
No it fricking isn't, you're not a psychiatrist, you're just assuming your favorite characters are good examples of how it, go meet up a war vet, or an EMT, or someone who lost his family or was a victim of something awful. People cope in literally any way imaginable.
Anon, you're not the only person in the world who's talked with traumatized people. I was raped as a kid, my father was an orphan, one of my best friends was an orphan, half of my family has worked in psych wards and seen some serious shit.
>People cope in literally any way imaginable.
Except apparently dressing up in black and pretending you're tough.
I don't even like edgy characters but you're really fricking obnoxious with the samegayging.
Oh, I'm sure you've totally met any actual traumatized people with the assertion that dressing up in black to look tough is a coping mechanism
>Except apparently dressing up in black and pretending you're tough.
Because that's a manifestation of insecurity.
>No real life person acts like an edgy character putting on trench coats and brooding
Do you have a psych degree? Do you even have a GED? Because I'm gonna go ahead and guess no based on how fricking moronic that was.
And i'm going to take your word on it, why? Why are your claims worth more than the fact that you don't see Afghanistan vets and orphans going around dressed up like morons? Surely, you speak with such authority, you must have some credentials to overpower observable reality. Get an actual degree in psychology if you want to speak from any authority. Acting edgy is a perfectly logical thing. It's not an emotional response, to decide to dress up and act like a tool in order to get a reaction is something that someone whose main motivation is to appear strong and fearsome to others does. It's not a manifestation of trauma, it's a manifestation of insecurity.
You're sermoning people about over the top characters in entertainment. These characters aren't deep, they aren't well crafted and profound studies of traumatized and hurt people. They're just goths with more red and a sob story.
>you don't see Afghanistan vets and orphans going around dressed up like morons?
The amount of sheltered lifestyle emanating from these posts is astounding.
Most people are indeed, well adjusted and able to withstand trauma. But if you don't think weirdos are out there waiting to be the next mass shooter dressed like fricking fairies and creepers. I don't know what to tell you. You probably should unironically take my word for it because it's clear to me now that I have loads more real life experience than you do.
Experience beats conjecture, i quite literally don't have to explain real life to you, get a diploma on psychology if you want to speak from a position of expertise. Funny you call me sheltered when that's exactly who these moronic characters appeal to.
>to decide to dress up and act like a tool in order to get a reaction is something that someone whose main motivation is to appear strong and fearsome to others does
I don't think that's as conscious as you're making it out to be. Besides wanting to appear strong and fearsome could be a defensive mechanism fearing interactions with others, if you scare them away they're not going to engage.
Again, it's not. Lashing out translates to being belligerent and engage in excess. Going around town dressed in a dollar store halloween costume and brooding is a reaction to needing attention, not processing an immensely psychologically disruptive event. There's a reason edginess is associated with immaturity, real experience makes people not find those things impressive in any way, they look clownish.
I mean, I'm just repeating to you my own therapist's hypothesis about how I present myself in a way that might be unpleasant to others (I'm not an edgy goth but I made the comparison and she approved). I never said anything about lashing out, in fact I specifically talked about the opposite: a defense mechanism.
>There's a reason edginess is associated with immaturity, real experience makes people not find those things impressive in any way, they look clownish.
There's immature traumatized people anon. I never implied dressing up and acting edgy was mature.
There's no way you can be saying this legitimately unless you're lying.
I've met rape victims, including child rape, a guy who was in Iraq for two tours, people who've been in deadly house fires and car crashes and first responders, you know what they act like? morbid, dark sense of humor, sometimes withdrawn, sometimes borderline, none brood and put on trench coats. People don't become outcasts because things happen to them, they become outcasts because they legitimately fail to relate to people anymore, and they go and remove themselves from society and live far away in the woods.
New copypasta just dropped
And its true. You are all moronic if you think that edgy characters act anything like real people.
You can claim i'm offended, and you can claim you haven't been proven wrong, but the fact that you've only done a few "no u"s and appealed to morality and some kind of expertise you have that you won't ellaborate on makes that statement feel very desperate.
What the actual frick are you talking about? If you're actually a counselor you seem like a terrible one.
There is an increase in little b***hes with personal problems who act personally offended at the idea of self improvement is all there is, i'm not edgy, i'm telling you what your dad should have, if you weren't probably the son of a single mom
The columbine kids were not traumatized. They were just idiots that wanted attention.
No, most of these characters do nothing but dress up in black and red and brood to look interesting. They don't display behavior of someone with a precise trauma at all. Fricking Shadow the Hedgehog is in that picture. The guy from Rampage is in that picture. You're projecting onto a literal mass shooter parody character.
I still have my trench coat and my fedora bros...
>It's not valid criticism if that's what tends to happen in real life
How does that follow? Lots of things happen in real life that don’t make good stories
If hollywood made a film based exactly on everything I did today, it would be a pretty boring film.
>NOOO YOU CANT JUST BE MAD THAT SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED TO YOU!
Ironically this is actually pretty true to real life. Traumatic events tend to set people down the road to becoming evil to cope with it.
>Sasuke
One of the best naruto characters
>Shadow
I love gunplay, which is why I'm biased towards him
>Ryoko
Edgy?
>Overwatch
unoriginality is worse than edgy
>superman
Nothing changed about the character
Shit taste
Ryoko is pretty edgy
her ?
What?
You shouldn't need to reach this hard for a false equivalency to your own strawman.
That's not a false equivalency. How come you're not allowed to be mad about your circumstances?
It is, and you are.
How is it a false equivalency?
Because your strawman didn't imply the reason people disapproved of edgy characters is that their traumas aren't bad enough.
I think the hate / ridiculy for "edgy" characters comes from how little we see many of the these characters, if at all, being or doing anything normal or level headed.
Who the frick cares? Have this discussion in a relevant thread instead of posting this image again just to b***h that people dislike edginess.
Who are you quoting?
>people are still responding to this thread seriously
this is why we tell you frickers to lurk
People love unapologetically evil characters. Ask any Disney fan, for example, and they will start listing off people like Scar, Jafar etc. that revel in how much of a douche they are and steal the show. To make it more relevant to edgy characters, a lot of the over the top anime villains are complete nihilistic edgelords and even some of the protagonists (Alucard from Hellsing for example). Meanwhile a lot of badly written edgy characters are edgy just for the sake of it rather than having an entertainment value attached to them.
It's like comparing Slipknot to a lot of the low effort "shocking" nu-metal bands for example.
Also on the topic of mental illness and edgelord characters, I suggest to you people to look up the cutscenes and loading screens of the first postal game. Pure shizo kino. You also get a pretty nice top down shooter as well. The reason why Postal 1 dude works better than Not Important is because for one, the game makes it clear that Postal dude is off his rocker the entire time thinking the world is out to get him because of a mind controlling virus making people violent and two, he loses in the end. He realizes the crimes he has committed and is then... committed... to a mental institution.
What is funny about edgyness is when teenagers who overexaggerate their "pain" use it to cope wih growing up, it's funny because it's relatable despite being irrational.
There is nothing wrong with edgy characters but if they are too exaggerated they end up being ridiculous and make a story harder to take seriously
>Why?
It's okay to get angry, it's not okay to stew in that anger. That's very simply not healthy or helpful.
What you could do instead is let it go.
I'm not saying forget, don't blindly trust those that've hurt you or stay in a situation that's causing you pain, but when you can let go of the hurt you can heal, and you're dramatically more important than whatever horrors you've survived.
>By this logic, you should never be happy because someone else will always have it better.
Not even remotely equivalent, though I buy that you think it is. People aren't telling you to feel no emotion, they're be very clear that the angry sad you're wallowing in is both incredibly negative for you and to be around, and it benefits nobody to be so entrenched in it. Digging yourself out of it then is a positive action for literally everybody.
Being angry is human, wanting to be angry is fundamentally childish.
Some kids dying in a war doesn't mean I shouldn't complain about my car getting scratched. What qualifies as a problem to you depends on what level your life is at and it should, because you should always be bothered by problems and try to make things better. What a bunch of preachy garbage you're spouting.
>Some kids dying in a war doesn't mean I shouldn't complain about my car getting scratched.
I never suggested that you should compare your woes to others, I don't suppose you actually read the post?
>because you should always be bothered by problems
You shouldn't have to let things bother you to try to make things better.
>What a bunch of preachy garbage you're spouting.
It's better to take on your preachy garbage then?
I explained why, but the tl;dr is "getting told to stop moping isn't getting told to stop all emotion."
>"Stop being so happy and joyful that's annoying."
It's a literal equivalence.
>Not even remotely equivalent
How?
Reaper is alright. (Don't know much about him anyway.) Love Ryuko. Don't remember her being a downer. Shadow is chained to Kek magic. Penance has an awesome story. Don't know much about Black Adam. Lapis can go frick herself since she was written by a pedo with the writing integrity of a 2nd grader.
Edgy shit used to be cool. Then a bunch of nerds decided it was cringe and for some reason we all listened to them. Nerds don't know what is cool and what is cringe. If they did they wouldn't be nerds.
Making fun of edgy stuff I feel was warranted at one point, but I feel like it was part of a bad trend where now literally anything with any degree of harshness or dire tonality is considered to be "edgy"
I feel as though the term "edgy" has gone from meaning
>"Empty shock value."
To
>"I'm offended by literally anything harsh. Don't wrongthink and go against my puritanical, sheltered ideals."
The term is 100% a thought terminating cliche and an American corpo buzzword, because the only time you ever see it get used is in reference to harmless pop media and not towards anything genuinely pushing boundaries.
Superboy-prime redeemed himself
Look I dislike Sasuke for being diet Killua. Thats all there is too it.
>Changes the metadata
>Still uses the same fricking opening post
For what purpose
Thats the protagonist of Hatred by Paine right? I originally thought it was Nathan Explosion but Nathan's FAR less edgy
And thats Superboy Prime (aka I'll Kill you to death!) on the left side right? Don't read a lot of comics, whats his beef?
Shadow has no reason to exist beyond SA2.