Not much into space sci-fi, but.... Tell me about The Orville, is it any good?
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Not much into space sci-fi, but.... Tell me about The Orville, is it any good?
Not much into space sci-fi, but.... Tell me about The Orville, is it any good?
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I see one good reason to watch it.
>I see one good reason to watch it.
The overwhelming and endless gay/troony/cuck content?
It's literally better than any of the new Star Trek shows and reminds me a lot of Next Gen. Very comfy but with that satirical edge MacFarlane's comedy has.
>and reminds me a lot of Next Gen.
Only if you don't actually pay attention to the characters of the stories. The cinematography is absolutely what TNG would look like if they just kept making it from the 90's. The stories, characters, and worldbuilding is worse than dogshit, though. It's gay, pozzed dogshit. I dgaf about this California Raisin's love life and I don't care about gay Moclans.
>pozzed
unlike Star Trek?
>is it any good?
It's... acceptable.
It'll scratch your Star Trek-itch the same way later ENT episodes did.
Not usually into israeliteesses but she did it for me
It is overall but Seth needs to stop casting his fricking girlfriends because they inevitably just get fired from the show
>is it any good?
no, its complete much
only idiots watch it
It was alright but its becoming hard to watch.
Since it went to streaming each episode is like an hour+ long and you can feel how they keep padding extra seconds/minutes into shots just to fill what normally would be 40 minutes worth of content.
My biggest gripe - is all the shit storylines about shit like abortion, gender, etc. Its making it insanely hard to care about any character anymore.
I want some fricking sci-fi in my sci-fi - not Topa's gender of the week bullshit.
It could be so much more than it is.
Btw hi Seth.
Topa is the Naomi of The Orville.
I was happy that they were gonna make them hour long episodes... then they filled their extra time with pointless drama instead of more scifi.
There's maybe 5-8 good-great episodes and the rest is trash. Don't bother, I'll make an episode guide one day.
>becoming
It's already cancelled and Seth is the one who cancelled it. Accept it.
This is one of the things that was missing as the show went on. Actual fun with the characters and hijinks.
It's alright. It starts out as a Star Trek parody which is why it takes a while for it to gain any real traction on it's own, but when it does it really gets going. A lot of people hate season 3 because of "muh modern sociopolitical issues" but I think it handles them tastefully, in a way that doesn't diminish the show or the characters, and it doesn't hold it's audience for fools.
>It starts out as a Star Trek parody which is why it takes a while for it to gain any real traction on it's own, but when it does it really gets going.
Yeah and this why the show sucks. It can't decide whether or not it wants to be a parody or not, and it strikes a shitty balance between the two where the jokes just aren't that funny, and the show just isn't that serious.
It's moved away from being a parody almost entirely. The scenes where it "tries to be funny" are few and far in between.
and now we're stuck with a cast from a paroty that are absolutely unbelievable in their roles. id argue that Kelly, Bortis, and Tila are the best actors but I honestly could not give a shit at this point.
id just be blown away if someone made a good scifi at this point - the oriville had the chance and it blowed it - show is progressively getting worse.
What really damages the show in season 3 (and arguably 2) is that they dropped the conceit that the Orville is a D-tier ship doing scut work for the Union. It's not the super important flagship like the Enterprise or cutting edge proof-of-concept like Voyager or Defiant, but a small cog doing the important but tedious work of maintaining an interstellar government. Ironically, Lower Decks follows this conceit better. Orville should be bumbling into high-risk adventures by accident and always tangentially to their main objective of trying to like survey asteroids or deliver anal beads to the Moclan homeworld instead of being first contact or engaging in firefights with hivemind AIs.
That was the premise but it got thrown out the window by the time Ed and Gordon got back from successfully spying on the Krill in season 1. By the time the Kaylon incursion is repelled The Orville is the most important ship in the entire fleet.
I would have liked for the show to hold on to that a little bit longer but Seth wanted to tell more serious stories and it's hard to do that when the captain and crew are bumbling frick-ups.
Not funny enough to be a good comedy, not serious enough to be good sci-fi.
It's not good.
Sg1 was never of those yet it’s kino
I hate most sci-fi shit and liked most of the show
>it's another Moclan anal frick episode
No.
>is it any good?
It is God Tier anon
It's impossible to discuss here but give it a try past the first episode. It's genuinely great but not necessarily for everyone.
Just check out the movie thatinspired it;
Why is Cinemaphile so butthurt that a child who was forced to be trans realised her biological gender was her true gender
bc conservatives want to force trans kids to be something they aren't, even if it means kids killing themselves.
moral of the story was "if a kid is suicidal, listen to them and try to help." conservative policy = "if a kid is suicidal, ignore them because their lives do not matter."
it was great until everyone brainwashed an alien into wanting to become a troony, even physically assaulting the father who tried to stop it. they did the operation. did it under conspiracy and all. very awful.
they didn't listen to a kid, they interpreted an issue was due to gender and then brainwashed him and usurped parental authority, even to the point of physically assaulting them. also, very quick impulsive decision to transition and get surgery.
So you believe that gender identity isn't real and birth sex is all that matters?
>yes
And you believe that no combination of surgery, dress, mannerisms, etc. can change birth sex?
>yes
And you believe it's heinous for a parent to push any of the aforementioned things on their child?
>yes
So Topa was born a female, was always a female despite the surgery she had at birth, and was still a female after Isaac reversed it
>NOOOO BORTUS FORCEFULLY TROONED TOPA OUT!
there are a huge number of homosexuals who (a) have no idea of the characters backstory and/or (b) are conditioned to expect everything to be woke. It's almost not their fault.
The Orville is obviously a very gay show, and I mean that unironically. It's full of gay tropes and weird gay choices. A straight man would not put this much latex on an actress this attractive. A straight man would not be as focused as the show was on Claire and Isaac.
>whataboutism
nuTrek is fricked. What's your point? This isn't about choosing sides. Both shows are garbage.
>whataboutism
>nutrek
anon did you ever see TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, and ENT? Orville being "pozzed" is an incredibly moronic thing to say when it is very much based on Star Trek, which has always been woke.
>Star Trek has always been woke
No, it hasn't. It was liberal / 60's era progressive. If you think TOS-ENT was "woke" you have no idea what that term means.
did you miss everything about Curzon in DS9?
No. You have no idea what "woke" means. Woke did not exist before Obama-era neoliberalism.
ok fine, but then what is it that bothers you about The Orville (pozzed you said, not woke, my bad) that wasn't in the old Trek shows?
>ok fine, but then what is it that bothers you about The Orville (pozzed you said, not woke, my bad) that wasn't in the old Trek shows?
It's not a matter of principle because I know these people don't share my politics. It's that Seth doesn't know how to tell a story without running a point into the ground. He's just too heavy handed. None of the shitlib antics of classic Trek are a problem because you always got the sense that there was some restraint and basic respect for the audience happening no matter the point of view. Seth treats his audience like they're buttholes. When nuTrek premiered SNW and they were exercising more balance and restraint than Seth MacFarlane it was eye opening how much he dropped the ball on his own show.
>This isn't about choosing sides. Both shows are garbage.
Don't say this too loud, they haven't worked out a comeback yet to the show only becoming a success because it started at the same time as STD. And don't say it around these
solar-opposite gays either.
Don't be dense. It's clearly meant to be a reflection of modern day issues. It might even be an attempt to show both sides of the issue, both transitioning and detransitioning, which I give the writers credit for if that's the case. Claiming that it has absolutely nothing to do with transitioning is ridiculous though.
>It's clearly meant to be a reflection of modern day issues.
It's almost a 1:1 of the story of that twin who John Money had the parents raise as a woman because off the botched circumcision. The kid grows up depressed, finds out eventually they were born as the opposite sex, and assumes the identity that their parents took away from them.
The only difference is that in The Orville they have the technology to correct the mistake. And Bortus, the parent who was always against the original sex change, is shown to be unequivocally in the right.
It's not that simple.
In Moclan society, being a woman is unnatural. And from that perspective, the Moclans are assigning her gender at birth and the union are trying to just let her be who she is inside, even if it doesn't fit into their gender norms. That's a transitioning story.
I really don't get why people want to put this story arc in a black and white box. As irritating as I find it, the writers did a good job of not making it an exactly perfect and boring analogue of the present day issue it's so clearly commenting on.
And I REALLY don't get that from the perspective of people who think it's supposed to be purely a detransitioning story. Do you really think that a 100% pro-detransitioning, anti-John-Money script got greenlit, written, produced, shot, and edited in current year, and that was the sole intent?
Ass backwards you fricking stupid moron.
liberals here were angry that the trans surgery didn't erase Topa's biology and Topa realized she was a freak that needed to be restored to what her DNA says she is
It's a solid show. The backbone of the series was always the sci-fi plots which for the most part have been good. In seasons 1 and 2 they counterbalanced the serious with some fairly well-done comedy, which they abandoned in season 3 to their detriment. There is solid serialized storytelling across episodes and seasons, and the universe they build is consistent.
The negatives are that the writing can get stupid at times and multiple episodes have asspulls that resolve the plot in an unsatisfying way. The show also summons from a lack of acting talent in the cast so it is over-reliant on certain characters and plotlines. For some reason, even though it's nominally his show (and he is far from the worst actor), Seth Macfarlane who plays the captain barely gets any storylines for himself. They don't do nearly as much exploring as the premise of the show suggests.
If you like sci-fi I'd suggest you give it a try. I will warn that if you're the type that is easily triggered you won't enjoy it.
damn, who dat?
I like it, helped me get over my divorce
The cigarette episode was comedy gold.
It's good. Better than his other live action stuff. I'll also say that I actually enjoyed million ways to make a huge movie title in the west. Didn't see Ted 1 or 2 tho
Ted is his best movie by far.
I didnt get a chance to finish watching it. On my list of "movies I was watching, but had to leave to do an important thing and never got back to movie" list
It's nothing special. A lot of the comedy comes from the teddy bear saying and doing a bunch of crass things, which is pretty juvenile (but still pretty funny). At its core it's a movie about a couple of manchildren growing up and it's pretty good, especially since Hollywood doesn't really do comedy anymore.
Bit better than nu-star trek, but not by much.
The Orville was a show made by gays for gays. So, if you're gay, you'll like it fine.
Gay like you?
> No U!
Really ORVgay?
its actually nuts how this show mogs all other nu-trek shows and its literally a rick and morty ripoff