It was shit. Having old actors trying to act like their still in their prime is absolutely cringeworthy.
Also Netflix cameras are shit, so shit infact that even Scorsese can't make the movie look any good. Netflix should just go bankrupt and close at this point, they and the streaming services are the death of kino.
The most disappointed I've ever been with a film besides maybe The Phantom Menace. Hyped up for years before release, spends a decade in development hell, then we get skeletal De Niro with awful CGI playing That Kid I Told You About
it had a good story and a profound message about inevitably of death, but because these 80 year old men looked like cartoon's calling eachother 'kid' takes me out of it completely. that plus the 3 hour 30 min run time in which there must have been about 20 minutes of deniro going to pesci, pesci telling him to make pacino settle down, then deniro going to pacino and all he says is: >it's my union!
it was a boring and long segment that should have been cut. i'm not even saying to make it under 3 hours, just cut that part. IF they had done that and hired younger actors to age them up it would have been brilliant. but that's not what we have. it feels like a senile attempt at something all involved used top be great at.
Pesci fared the best, his character was already older at the start of the film so the de-aging wasn't as jarring. He also gave the best performance out of the three. The biggest problem for me is that the story just wasn't interesting enough to merit a 3.5 hour movie.
The same principles apply, and both groups were disliked for roughly the same reasons >superstitious >Catholic >quick to anger and violence >would form ethnic crime syndicates
All of it was true; though I think the Irish have had more legitimate success (e.g. Presidents) due to already speaking English and having a more similar (anglo) culture.
It’s better than Casino. Watched the Irishman for the second time and thought it was infinitely better second time around. Immediately watched Casino right afterwards and the Irishman edges it out.
It falls between both stools.
They need to deepfake the de-ageing, fix that awful beatdown scene and the strange cut when Sheean calls Jo after the hit, then cut about 20 minutes of the pre-Hoffa scenes, or any padding. Then it could be a masterpiece. Pesci steals every scene, Pacino is entertaining, De Niro comes into his own at the end.
It's hamstrung by having such a dull and soul-less protagonist for most of the film; as well as the high possibility that a lot of Sheeran's story was bullshit.
It's not GoodFellas, but it's not supposed to be. Imagine if there was another half hour showing the last 30+ years of Henry's miserable life outside 'the life'.
Goodfellas is supposed to be the mob life when you're delusional and coked up beyond repair, The Irishman is after the high ends and you realize your life is just senseless violence. Goodfellas is still the better film though because it's never dull.
If I didn't like gangster/mob movies before this wouldn't have changed my mind. Not at all. That said Goodfellas is literally my favorite movie of all time so I liked this one. It wasn't bad, only watched it once because it is very long, but it's decent.
It's Scorsese's best mob film. It's an epic, with a far more truthful, interesting, and compelling emotional core than Goodfellas or Casino. I was engrossed throughout the runtime. Pesci and Pacino were great, but De Niro was meh. The biggest sin is obviously the de aging and the fact that it released on Netflix. This movie, and its reception would undoubtedly be improved by a theatre release. On a side note, I do think the brainrot of today sort of prevents people from appreciating longer epic style films. The attention span is just not there.
Neither.
Should have been animated
It was shit. Having old actors trying to act like their still in their prime is absolutely cringeworthy.
Also Netflix cameras are shit, so shit infact that even Scorsese can't make the movie look any good. Netflix should just go bankrupt and close at this point, they and the streaming services are the death of kino.
>here’s the kid I been tellin’ you about
The most disappointed I've ever been with a film besides maybe The Phantom Menace. Hyped up for years before release, spends a decade in development hell, then we get skeletal De Niro with awful CGI playing That Kid I Told You About
>That Kid I Told You About
Is this line actually in the movie?
I could only bear to sit through it once but I'm 99% sure that's directly from the film
it had a good story and a profound message about inevitably of death, but because these 80 year old men looked like cartoon's calling eachother 'kid' takes me out of it completely. that plus the 3 hour 30 min run time in which there must have been about 20 minutes of deniro going to pesci, pesci telling him to make pacino settle down, then deniro going to pacino and all he says is:
>it's my union!
it was a boring and long segment that should have been cut. i'm not even saying to make it under 3 hours, just cut that part. IF they had done that and hired younger actors to age them up it would have been brilliant. but that's not what we have. it feels like a senile attempt at something all involved used top be great at.
Would've been kino 20 years earlier but the de-aged geriatrics really killed the vibe.
Pesci fared the best, his character was already older at the start of the film so the de-aging wasn't as jarring. He also gave the best performance out of the three. The biggest problem for me is that the story just wasn't interesting enough to merit a 3.5 hour movie.
never bothered to watch it. If it was in theaters I would of committed
Mid-tier
6/10
Boring and gay. Also, all movies like this that try to glorify gangster wop culture just make me more sympathetic to pic related.
But he hated potatoBlack folk, I don’t remember too many wops in GoNY
The same principles apply, and both groups were disliked for roughly the same reasons
>superstitious
>Catholic
>quick to anger and violence
>would form ethnic crime syndicates
All of it was true; though I think the Irish have had more legitimate success (e.g. Presidents) due to already speaking English and having a more similar (anglo) culture.
>What's that you say? Bobby D is seventy-five years too old for this role? That's okay, we'll fix it in post
They returned to the well one time too many.
Excellent deconstruction, kino but short of a certified timeless masterpiece.
Joe Pesci was the best part about it. The "de-aging" was embarrassing and Al Pacino stopped trying decades ago
It’s better than Casino. Watched the Irishman for the second time and thought it was infinitely better second time around. Immediately watched Casino right afterwards and the Irishman edges it out.
It didn't leave nearly the same amount of impact as Goodfellas or Casino. That should tell you something.
It falls between both stools.
They need to deepfake the de-ageing, fix that awful beatdown scene and the strange cut when Sheean calls Jo after the hit, then cut about 20 minutes of the pre-Hoffa scenes, or any padding. Then it could be a masterpiece. Pesci steals every scene, Pacino is entertaining, De Niro comes into his own at the end.
It's hamstrung by having such a dull and soul-less protagonist for most of the film; as well as the high possibility that a lot of Sheeran's story was bullshit.
It's not GoodFellas, but it's not supposed to be. Imagine if there was another half hour showing the last 30+ years of Henry's miserable life outside 'the life'.
Goodfellas is supposed to be the mob life when you're delusional and coked up beyond repair, The Irishman is after the high ends and you realize your life is just senseless violence. Goodfellas is still the better film though because it's never dull.
1st hour is dogshit
2nd hour is kino
3rd hour is mediocre
6/10 overall
It was boring af
If I didn't like gangster/mob movies before this wouldn't have changed my mind. Not at all. That said Goodfellas is literally my favorite movie of all time so I liked this one. It wasn't bad, only watched it once because it is very long, but it's decent.
Disappointment. Way too long, horrible CGI faces, crappy old man acting of people way past their primes
The only thing wrong with it was the weird aging effects, other than that it was kino.
It's Scorsese's best mob film. It's an epic, with a far more truthful, interesting, and compelling emotional core than Goodfellas or Casino. I was engrossed throughout the runtime. Pesci and Pacino were great, but De Niro was meh. The biggest sin is obviously the de aging and the fact that it released on Netflix. This movie, and its reception would undoubtedly be improved by a theatre release. On a side note, I do think the brainrot of today sort of prevents people from appreciating longer epic style films. The attention span is just not there.