Now that the dust has settled, was Watchmen (2009) good?
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Now that the dust has settled, was Watchmen (2009) good?
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Yes. It is probably the best comic adaptation of all time.
There will likely never be such a faithful adaptation at such a budget ever again.
Sin City exists anon
V for Vendetta was meme'd to death but it's a much better movie. Snyder's style gets old after a bit.
very much. to what point snyder's understood the comics is debatable, but he clearly loved it
I don't like the fact the new series they announced uses that weird CGI from marvel's what if, but if they stick close to the comics it might be good
we're talking about adaptations, anon. v for vendetta is a good movie (although wuite on the nose in some parts), but as far as adaptations go it raped the original hard
No, it was awful, Snyder completely misunderstood what the comic was about and recreated it to the most superficial standards possible. Great cast, great art direction, great source material horribly ruined by being entrusted to a moron.
>probably the best comic adaptation of all time
That would be TMNT (1990)
yes, very well directed, very well cast (yes even the pretty girl's acting is just fine you homosexuals), good pacing, great effects, and as far as I can tell pretty close to the source material so I give it a 9 out of 10 thumbs up
I really enjoyed it the first time. But my second viewing was alarmingly worse and I couldn't get into it enough to even get halfway through.
Yes. At the time even the hard core graphic novel fans thought the altered ending was okay, and that it fit the movie better. Ordinarily purists flip their shit over things like that.
it's just a very logical pivot to make, especially considering how you only have so much time on the screen to get the plot across
kudos to whoever came up with that
movie is fricking boring though holy shit
Even fans of the comic realized the aliens were goofy af. There are obviously way better comics to do like Dark Night Returns
>Dark Night Returns
I'd like to see an unapologetic adaptation of The Dark Knight Strikes Again.
I still haven't read Dark Knight 3 but I hear it was a return to form.
The alien is intentionally absurd.
TDKR seemed to have been a more fitting project for Snyder, but it looks like he would have fricked it up based on Batman v Superman.
The alien isn’t a bad choice in the comic. It’s expressing that humanity ended up so divided that only a truly outside force could unite them. Dr Manhattan ends up cutting ties with humanity either way, because with his power he “should have” been able to stop the “alien invasion”, but having him be blamed for the attack, especially when he was so recently allied with America, and when he was once a man like any others, muddies the waters in two ways too many
Having said that, the explanation of how the faked alien came to be (which also characterises Veidt further), would take too long to fit into an already long film, and grind the excitement of the race to the final confrontation to a standstill.
Watchmen is overall quite a good adaptation, but it’s also honestly completely unnecessary. You can just read the comic, and it’s better in every way. By trying to be like the comic, and not making it’s own stylistic choices, the only advantage for the movie is it will appeal more to people who didn’t want to spend the time to read the comic. And they’re just not the target audience of the story both versions tell.
>Having said that, the explanation of how the faked alien came to be (which also characterises Veidt further), would take too long to fit into an already long film, and grind the excitement of the race to the final confrontation to a standstill.
Bullshit.
Just becasue they made it that way, doesn't mean i couldn't be different or you have to defend how it was made.
They could have removed the sex scenes and a bit of slomo and they would have had enought time to exlain it two or three times, if somethign lasting few mins more is that big of a concern.
>the only advantage for the movie is it will appeal more to people who didn’t want to spend the time to read the comic.
I'll take an ending that makes sense over what we got, thank you. Comic or not comic
>They could have removed the sex scenes and a bit of slomo and they would have had enought time to exlain it two or three times, if somethign lasting few mins more is that big of a concern.
Ok, I admit that was a completely fair point. It’s been years since I watched the film. I went too soft on it. The people who didn’t want to read the comic probably want slow mo violence and sex though.
>I'll take an ending that makes sense over what we got, thank you. Comic or not comic
I agree, it’s like I said.
>You can just read the comic, and it’s better in every way.
>>You can just read the comic, and it’s better in every way.
Cinemaphile midwits pretend to love stuff but they never read the source material. Just look at LOTR threads.
Well, I've read both Watchmen and LotR
Watchmen is israelited leftist slop.
I've already read it, can't do anything about that
it's supposed to be goofy, it's a gigantic joke, a practically bloodless solution to the cold war, whereas in the movie the solution is totally lethal and serious. it's also based on a real CIA program to fake an alien invasion for the exact same purpose as in the movie.
top 3 super hero movies of all time
>pajeets wake up
>snyder dickriding thread
KEK
it's prime poasting hours in USA, lil brah
It's not, I'm pretty sure the average American working citizen is already asleep by now.
I'm none so it makes sense I'm here.
>It's not, I'm pretty sure the average American working citizen is already asleep by now.
oh shut up, geek, it's like not even 10pm here in Colorado right now
best capeshit ever made up to its time, maybe of all time, but civli war and infinty war were p good
I liked it..
But a bunch of fricking literally morons
Don't like like
Only
Because
Le fricking epic squiward
Now type that again without the homosexualry.
the bomb plot hits harder than Squidward's antics... The bomb isn't just a plot device; it's a visceral symbol of chaos and existential threat, mirroring our anxieties about authority and the consequences of power unchecked. It drives home the gritty realism of the Watchmen universe, contrasting sharply with Squidward's cartoonish ... The bomb's impact lingers, provoking deeper thoughts on morality and society, far more than me epic Squidward's random moment
>...
I've only ever seen pajeets online overusing ellipses like this
(Guy who has never gotten an email from a boomer)
Being a boomer is not much better than being a pajeet.
Imagine being so disrespectful that you have to resort to mocking others anonymously on the internet. Is this the legacy we're leaving?
No wonder zoomers are a bunch of fricking cucks who love BBC
Does India have a Cinemaphile equivalent? Go there or the India subreddit.
Mate, first I'm a boomer and now suddenly I'm from India? Pick a lane and stick with it, mate. Your insults are more scattered than my sleep schedule.... Michael
Mutt's Law in full effect.
That some kind of moronic attempt at a haiku or something?
Alright, listen up, Mr.homosexual. The bomb in "Watchmen" (2009) is way more convincing than that giant squidward from the graphic novel. Think about it: a massive explosion that threatens to obliterate everything in its path is way more relatable and scary than fricking squidward dropping out of nowhere. The bomb taps into our real-world fears of nuclear disaster and political brinkmanship, which hits closer to home. Plus, it's a direct consequence of human actions and decisions, making it more grounded and impactful. The squid? Yeah, it's weird and all, but it's more like something out of a sci-fi comic than a gritty, realistic reflection of our own world. So yeah, the bomb wins for being more convincing and making us think about the mess we create.
kys Michael
Ngmi
the "alien" in the graphic novel serves to unite mankind against an "outside" enemy. the bombs would just point to a human enemy and leave the world in complete and total chaos.
Because never before in history had the US and Russia been allied against a common earthly enemy.
so you destroy that earthly enemy. now what? you're being short sighted.
I thought the bombs were deliberately engineered to look like Manhattan went rogue and took out a bunch of cities, so the USA and USSR would unite to kill him.
Actual schizo vibes.
ESL obsessed with calling the squid from watchmen squidward.
If it bothers faux purists like you, I think I'll start doing it as well.
>I don't understand symbolism or subtext
That's fine anon but don't get mad at everyone else
It's good. It's not great. The sex scene is particularly cringey. But for every terrible shot in the movie there's a really nice one.
only capeshit I ever watched more than once.
It's good.
the changes to the source material are better than I expected. And I think it was an improvement
It fell short of its aspirations and was crippled by bad decision making.
It was jarring watching Jackie Earle Haley act circles around the other actors with the possible exception of Mr. Blue Dick. The guy playing Ozymandias was completely fricking hopeless and ruined every scene he was in.
The movie also spent too much time on the wrong shit and kept fricking up the tone, like every time they cut away to carla gugino as the old b***h.
It looked good but the people making it were only capable of style not substance
Yeah, the silk spectre mom scenes were cringe, frankly.
the only capeshit with a memorable third act
It's okay on it's own, terrible adaptation though. I hate Jackie Earl Haley's performance he sounds like a shitty cartoon the whole time.
goat opening credits for a comic book movie for little boys. very low value other than that. snyder's second best effort after the owl movie.
morons like it so it keeps them wrangled. You can't yank them out of society and brand them like cattle, so the Watchmen movie exists as a way to weed them out in a less brazen way.
Sorry, meant to write Sausage Party.
>Seth Rogen got to frick Salma Hayek and I never will
Why the frick do I continue to draw breath?
yeah it's pretty good
the ending is somehow worse than in the comic. everybody in the world, especially soviets, would blame america for manhattan's chimpout. they should've left the squid ending but replace the creature with something more intimidating
The stuff it cut only made the story better and not as ass. One of the few movies to improve upon its source material
Alright, here's the deal with that twist in the movie's Watchmen ending: Veidt's master plan to frame Dr. Manhattan with nuclear explosions is next-level strategic genius. See, Veidt's whole shtick is about controlling perceptions and outcomes. By making it seem like Dr. Manhattan went rogue and started vaporizing cities, he manipulates the entire world into uniting against a common enemy..Dr. Manhattan. This move plays perfectly into the fear and uncertainty of the Cold War era.
Now, using actual nuclear bombs to simulate Dr. Manhattan's powers? That's diabolically clever. It's like a massive, geopolitical magic trick. The world sees devastation and assumes it's the work of an all-powerful being they can't control. It pushes nations to put aside their differences for survival, just as Veidt intended.
Compare that to the comic's giant squid. Sure, it's shocking, but it's a one-off shock that doesn't resonate the same way. Veidt's adaptation in the movie ties directly into global politics and existential dread in a way that's BELIEVABLE and IMPACTFUL. It's about manipulating perception on a grand scale, and that, my friends, is why the movie's ending makes more sense.
yeah it was good. the cut with the 30mins of the comic animated shit was a bit too much though.
No. It's quite bad.
People that preferred the bomb twist didn't read or understand the comic.
LE EPIC FRICKING SQUIDWARD
kys s.o.y. boi
Good at the time; Great when compared with today's standards.
Simple as.
Although I appreciated the Owl and Silk Spectre slow motion fast forward fight scenes and some scenes being direct recreations of the source material, the additional scenes added nothing and were more like the director showing off as if he knows better than the source material. The alternate Vietnam flower moment, a hand getting shot in half, Veidt being the obvious villain with Everybody Wants to Rule the World playing, removing the giant squid, none of it made the story better than the original, and a lot of key moments from the source material are missing. In conclusion, Watchmen (2009) is a flawed adaptation that misses the point of the original.
It's so funny to me that if the comic had the bomb and the movie introduced the squid you guys would never stop laughing at how moronic the movie would be.
If the comic had the ending where Manhattan, an American asset, was believed to have gone rogue and destroyed several major cities around the world, and this lead to the US and the USSR joining forces, then it should be ridiculed.
Best Comic movie and really great Fun movie too.
my favorite comic book movie from all the shit we got the last 15+ years. For the length of it, the pacing was perfect. Snyder was unconcious from 07-2011. Lightning in a bottle for him.
300, Watchmen, and the Gahool Owl movie were the only good flicks Snyder ever made.
Very good and the extended version even better
No.
It sucked.
The graphic novel was much better.
Read it.
Don't see the film.
No, but it was one of the less intolerable capeshit flicks.
The intro is the best part of the movie and noticeably had the most effort put into it.
The casting was perfect, except for Ozy. He's supposed to be a statuesque aryan, not a metrosexual twink
I don't mind not having the squid, but I think people would have reacted differently if they thought Manhattan had become a mass murderer.
If I enjoyed watching a movie then yes, it's good. Some scenes kinda dragged though.
>entire pirate subplot
It's ok, despite Snyder, but it shits the bed in the last part. Manhattan being blamed doesn't make any sense in the movie. Should have invented another outsider menace, if they didn't want the squids.
You cannot just swith the ending to a story without changing everything else. Lazy
it had a really good smashing pumpkins song. i remember liking the movie, but it's not the kind I ever need or want to watch a second time.
it wasn't good but it was soulful
It's still not over
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It was Snyders best movie
Despite Snyder
It's not the best movie, but its easy to rewatch. Also, this an 300 are the only 2 Snyder films worth a frick.
Dawn of the dead changed everything
Dawn of the Dead is the poster child for films that absolutely did not need to be made.
without it schneider would have 0 decent films
His track record seems pretty good to me. Then again, I'm not a snyder loyalist or whatever or a butthurt comic nerd so there'22vvps that
Rebel moon part 2 was a setback
snydershit
Yes, it was kino.
Rorschach is literally me (just like The Driver and Blade Runner 2049 are).
The only watchable Snyder film.
Yes, but the director made fun of gays in 300 so homosexuals will tell you otherwise.
Snyder voted Democrat and called 300 "extremely homoerotic"