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A Maori-israelite making a movie about a Norse god.
He’s just a israelite, his real name is David cohen.
His dad was a loser native that abandoned his israelite mom.
He is just a israelite larping as a Maori
Taika is so reddit he’s like a demon summoned by reddit
Taika seems like he has to be the most obnoxious c**t on the planet
I like it oddly enough I went in thinking it was going to be the worse and completely pozzed but it was moderately pozzed like twice but okay mostly.
New Asgard was like a liberal wonderland
The transformation Thor made between Avengers and L&T is the same transformaron Ralph suffered between his two movies.
He went from troubled and well meaning to pathetic and bumbling.
I went to see it with my teenage daughter and she said that the movie didn’t feel like it was about Thor and also that Thor didn’t feel like Thor.
Also this
>the movie didn’t feel like it was about Thor and also that Thor didn’t feel like Thor.
sums up the movie perfectly
>I went to see it with my teenage daughter
How badly did she smell like fish when Thor was stripped nude?
was hoping for a castle in the sky asgard
also, did they just lose all the tech from thor 1 and 2? didn't thor 2 have crazy advance medical tech?
That race of alien warriors with tech akin to magic adapted to cheap capitalism real fast. Seamless integration.
The movie message seems to be
>never let Black folk into power
Larry Storch died
F
Where is the sticky!
>Where is the sticky!
On your mother's back
They replaced the Mark Mothersbaugh with 80s dadrock.
Thanks James Gunn.
I don't know, I didn't watch it.
dont show portland butthole
Did you know "porthole" is a portmanteau? Ironic
The Hershlag Highway.
It won't break a billion but it won't flop sadly. Just went to bomojo and its at 70mil from 7/8.
it won't flop because many people liked ragnarok and expect more of the same. that's why it's opening OK but I'd expect a huge drop-off the next weeks and a bit of a dampener for cohen's career. he'll still get several more chances though but maybe a little less freedom.
this flick was just so bland. post-endgame mcu is dead
This. Its like they stopped trying. And I honestly liked pre-Ragnarok Thor way better. His Norse-ness had an interesting chemistry with the other heros. Now hes basically Starlord 2.0
Star-Lord comes off as far more competent and serious than Thor now. Jesus frickin Christ.
This is all Hemsworth's fault. It was his idea to turn Thor into a college jock moron.
You really think that? You really think it was all the actor who wanted a straight white male character to be taken down several notches?
He said so himself that he was bored of the character and wasn't interested in making another movie until Taika came along.
Bad movies are one thing but they're diluting the brand even harder with the bad TV shows. It's going to get to a point where the average person won't have the patience to sit through all this garbage
as long as the average person doesn't unsub from Disney+ it won't affect anything.
too big too fall
This. I genuinely enjoyed a lot of the movies up until Endgame, but I saw the writing on the wall with them cucking the male leads and pushing the identity politics horseshit. I think these movies finally run out of steam with normies real soon.
Another thing is that it's hard to tell where this Phase is going. Phase One was all about setting up The Avengers, after that it was all leading to Infinity Gauntlet. But here? What's the climax that ties Shang-Chi and Black Widow's sister together with Thor's daughter and The Eternals?
They're probably setting up (very poorly)the Young Avengers or A-Force which is all b***hes, either way it aint gonna be very popular.
Unironically too much freedom in a project that needed direction the most.
Feige bet on the wrong horse when he gave Waititi creative freedom. We're unironically approaching Schumacher levels of turning capeshit into a complete joke once again and another Batman Begins will soon be needed.
>turning capeshit into a complete joke
turning?
He did the same thing with Bryan Singer and James Gunn what he does is this, he has a source he wants the director to go there and deconstruct destroy and the result is this unpalatable disgusting shit
I think he’s like the frog in a pot of hot water when it comes to the tone of the mcu. Someone posted the first Iron-Man, Cap and Thor movies and those were good to great fantasy action movies. Infinity War and Winter Soldier were also great because they made the serious parts serious. Now, and it’s not really GoTG’s fault that the producers decided to go full Whedon with every mcu movie, the snark is too much. Mark my words The Fantastic 4 will all be sassy snark machines and not just Human Torch.
Also note that even though Gunn goes overboard with humour sometimes, he will let sad moments linger. The ending of GotG2 actually lingers on Yondu's death, and Gunn keeps the serious tone all the way to the end.
Gunn is way better at letting the emotional beats breathe in his movies than Waititi, both Guardians movies and The Suicide Squad are proof of that.
Feige had nothing to do with the Singer X-Men films. Those came out long before Disney acquired Fox.
>Feige had nothing to do with the Singer X-Men films.
Yes he did. Feige attended Singer's twink parties
Not only Feige but most of the names making capeshit today are on the production lists of those movies.
The smarmy tone was out of control. It felt like Taika was just off-camera whispering "I can't believe you dorks actually like this stuff" the entire time. Bale was the only stand-out good thing and was overall underutilized. The God Butcher kills exactly one god on screen, and it's during the prologue. Weak.
He’s right though. I can’t believe you homosexuals like pozzed capeshit:
>Taika was just off-camera whispering "I can't believe you dorks actually like this stuff" the entire time.
Can you really blame israelites exclusively for all the shit they do when people eat it up and ask for more?
Yes because they capitalize on children and adults with child brains. It's like a mother feeding their fat kid more and more fast food - the kid doesn't know any better.
I saw it with my GF it was kind of cute, I’m a big sucker for fatherhood as a theme in media
The only thing I didn’t enjoy was the grown man next to me (who looked like a basedjak meme: recessed jaw, patchy stubble, glasses) who said “uh oh” audibly at several scenes and was laughing to hard at every joke, it took immense strength to not kill him.
I would kill myself in that position
Please don’t wait till you are in that position.
t. watched the movie next to Dunkey
>said “uh oh” audibly at several scenes
based
comedy was awful, bale was good but his character should have been more stoic like in the prologue but starts acting like the joker for some reason. oh and he doesn't kill any gods, apart from the random one at the start
it's also so fricking annoying when the villain just gives up on their goal for 10 seconds of sentimentality.
There's this notion that Chris Hemsworth is good with comedy and for the life of me I just don't see it. He's completely a one note comic. He can do that vague/stupid face and his timing isn't terrible but he doesn't have an innate knack for it and Hollywood keeps trying to make him work in that role. He's not funny. He can be funny but he's not funny. It's like how Ryan Reynolds for years was pushed in romantic comedies and he looks like someone who should be able to do that but it just doesn't work. Hemsworth needs to stop letting idiots like Waititi use him that way.
He was pretty good in that shitty Vacation sequel.
He "can" do comedy if it's written well and the film itself isn't trying to be a straight up comedy. The harder his movies steer in that direction the more tiresome the 1-2 things he can do become.
He does kill other gods. The problem is it's always off screen
Why didn't Bale just wish for all his people to come back and for him to live?
That's two separate wishes, also the movie (and Thor) are right; Under all that rage and resentment, what he ultimately wanted was his daughter back, and like any parent was willing to trade his life for hers.
But the whole speech at the beginning about all his people suffering etc. He could have gotten them all back easily. (Although I don't remember Eternity giving out wishes in the comics, but whatever).
Does this all finally get to the cosmic entities, where we will get to see Eternity and Living Tribune and Galactus and Death actually do things? Ego was a joke.
>Does this all finally get to the cosmic entities, where we will get to see Eternity and Living Tribune and Galactus and Death actually do things? Ego was a joke.
Did you see in the Gateway to Eternity the busts of the Celestials, Uatu The Watcher, The Living Tribunal and Death? A Galactus reveal is all but inevitable at this point. Honestly Galactus and Doom finally appearing in the MCU will either make or break me continuing with these movies based on their execution.
>Did you see in the Gateway to Eternity the busts of the Celestials, Uatu The Watcher, The Living Tribunal and Death?
No I didn't catch those. But what is it even hinting at? Its all been easter eggs so far. I wanted to see Thanos *become* Eternity; instead we got "Endgame".
>it's also so fricking annoying when the villain just gives up on their goal for 10 seconds of sentimentality.
When you think Hollywood won't stoop down to Naruto levels of shit writing
This was the first Marvel movie I saw in theater since Iron Man 2. I did not like it.
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Why the frick would anyone want to rape their ears with that shit language?
Why did people like Ragnarok but hate this one? It looks like the same movie.
I just saw it, the movie gets really obnoxious at some points with its jokes, especially the fricking goats. It needed way more emotional beats, especially with the villain who really doesn't do anything of depth until the last scenes
Ragnarok was just as obnoxious though
Ragnarok is good just for one line.
>are you Thor, god of hammers?
ragnarok was old thor but with some new takes so it felt fresh, plus it was connected to the greater mcu plot
The jokes were better. Had Hulk and Loki, who had much better chemistry with Thor.
That's it.
Hela actually matched the tone of ragnarok unlike gorr here. also slowed down with the jokes
Hulk.
Korean rip of the movie when?
Didn’t mind it. Went in expecting worse grandstanding but it was just like 2 jokes, one with the women and the other with the rock at the end
It was probably the least pozzed marvel movie in a while
>it wasn't too pozzed so it's good
okay moron
>Female Thor
>KING of Asgard is black woman, now explicitly lesbian
>Grorg has two daddies and reproduces with Dwayne the rock at the end
>Don't deadname Hemidell's son
>Don't deadname Hemidell's son
All the Astrid's i knew through my life where female. The kid made the right choice.
he was a FTM trans
Seriously?
Anyone else notice that they couldn't even stick to their own story? When Korg was relating how all rock men were created by males in some kind of homosexual lava party he completely forgot that in Ragnorak he told Thor that he lived with his mom and her boyfriend. They were the only ones who showed up for his earlier revolution attempt right? The one where he didn't print enough flyers?
Now he's the product of two gay rock monsters and one had a Village People Biker mustache. Just throw out the previous story entirely to get the gay pride moment in there.
>Anyone else notice
I'd have to watch it to notice, and I ain't watching anything post-Endgame. So was the kid a FTM?
No. The joke is he wants to be called axl because of Guns and Roses
Not Slash because of how he removed his peen?
>Grorg has two daddies
Even though he mentioned he had a mother in Ragnarok. No agenda here!
Honestly just a couple more scenes of Gorr killing gods would have made this movie really solid, just one simple one early on, and maybe another one later, where he could learn about eternity or something.
Supposedly he was suppose to kill Grandmaster, but they cut the scenes.
is Grandmaster a god?
but the actual problem is I wasn't tied to Valkyrie's hair like Korg's face was, nor was I sat on by either Valkyrie or Jane Foster
What have your dubs done for you?
nothing, in fact I feel lesser for having gotten them
who cares if he kills random gods we dont even know. there would be no emotional impact. there would be no point to it. it would not give credibility since we would have any history with them or know their power level or anything. hell, they arent even real gods, just random aliens. its fricking moronic to call them gods in mcu context. hes killing random aliens. oh no, scary.
Thor should've failed to seal a pact with Zeus, gorr should've followed his trail to the city. Killed a load of god's and left zeus injured. It would've built up more of a threatening persona for Gorr.
Zeus then could've been angry at Thor for giving away the location of the city.
My favorite part was at the end with the kids.
Go fricking die in a fire
Have sex and procreate
says the person who enjoys movies where women dont even have bodies
It's just bad. I know most of you feel like everything from Marvel is inherently bad but this one just doesn't work. It's got the feel of a film that nobody checked the director on when he went too far or got too obsessed with an angle/idea. It's the kind of movie you come out of thinking "I don't care if I never see another thing from Waititi again" because deep down you know he's 100% the reason this was fricked up. Now, maybe you feel like it had a built in ceiling because it's an MCU movie and that's a reasonable thing to say/assume. It didn't even reach that level of entertaining. In a world where you're judging thing based on other superhero "capeshit" movies this one was dumb.
100% this. They gave Taiki too much freedom and he fricked the whole thing. He's good working in small indie movies but you can't shove What We Do In The Darkness dynamic into a MCU movie.
>dude, the jokes about the screaming goats and Stormbreaker being jealous for the 99th time, isn't that hilarious?
honestly felt like an idiot in the cinema. This was so clearly a film for 12 year olds. I will NEVER watch a marvel film (in public) again.
>This was so clearly a film for 12 year olds.
It's PG-13, anon. 12 year olds can't see it without their parents.
It was literally made for 12 yr olds you dumbass moron. Marvel didn't determine the rating
Not enough Gorr.
Too much comedy.
Are you guys not going to see the film? I've deceided I wasn't going to bother but was looking forward to seeing you anons shitpost about it, but there's barely any discussion or threads about the film.
>Are you guys not going to see the film?
Nope. I too am here for the shitposting, but I quit after Endgame (wish I'd stopped at Infinity War) and will never watch another MCU (or Star Wars) product from Disney ever again. It seems the only people who watch this crap are morons, people who don't know better, and people who make youtube videos shitting on them.
Everyone from critics to normies says its the conflicting tone. Really serious, genuinely good moments that are serious. But then comedic bullshit that ruins it.
thats marvel's formula
then the Cinemaphile answer is that this has gotten so capeshit that even capeshit fans are hating it
Honestly thought this movie was less guilty of this than Ragnarok was. Ragnarok was constantly killing the mood with quips, this one let the emotional moments breathe.
They appealed to a nebulous version of what they thought children wanted instead of what children actually want. Waititi said that the movie is like if a 6 year old devised it and nobody said no to anything he did. But that's moronic, because if you actually were a child growing up who liked superhero cartoons or movies you'd know that the coolest moments were when serious shit went down. That's why every 90s kid will hype up the old Batman and Superman cartoons. Not because they threw out a joke every 30 seconds but because they weren't afraid to get serious.
It's not just superhero movies either. Most young adults now probably grew up watching movies like Jurassic Park, Independence Day, Terminator 1/2, The Matrix, Nolan Batman, etc. and all of those movies (ID aside) are dead serious movies and even reasonably smart.
I'm not saying that kids don't like movies with lighter tones obviously. I think most people liked Ragnarok despite what Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile have to say about it. But if you toss your brain into the garbage and go "hah the kids are gonna love this" then you're probably an idiot.
And the writing in this movie does a good job showing that Waititi is, indeed, an idiot.
Exactly. Ragnorak was a good "Change of Pace" for this stuff. It wasn't indicative of what people want every time out. I'd rather see 4 straight variations of The Dark World than 4 straight increasingly zany versions of Ragnarok.
>But that's moronic, because if you actually were a child growing up who liked superhero cartoons or movies you'd know that the coolest moments were when serious shit went down.
I am not gonna defend this movie (or any MCU shit for that matter), but you need to understand that children today are the same as we were. Just look at how many action cartoons have been rebooted as dumb pure comedy shows (Teen Titans, Thundercats, PowerPuff Girls, etc.) in the past decade.
For some reason kids today only want wacky shit and have no interest in serious stories.
Ten why do kids hate the movie lmao
Like I said, I am not defending this movie I am just pointing out that particular argument doesn´t work.
Kids hates this movie not because it has too much comedy, they hate it because the comedy sucks.
Multiverse of Madness is the MCU's last Jedi; it has killer people's interest in the MCU.
>For some reason kids today only want wacky shit and have no interest in serious stories.
They have YouTube and videogames for that. These movies are a social experience meant to be enjoyed with friends and to only be "serious" in their overarching stories and not within each movie.
This is a meme on this board but I just finished Kermode’s video and it’s true the insincerity is pretty tiresome. I am bored of post-modern snarkiness undercutting every bit of the movie. Why would I enjoy something the creators clearly didn’t care about. Every fantasy movie doesn’t have to have a wink and a nod at the audience saying “hey we live in modern times and nothing means anything, so don’t expect themes about the human struggle or strife being serious”. Boring.
Every third line in these movies is a snappy one liner and every character, like, talks like a valley girl. It's fricking ridiculous.
Post-Disney wokeshit MCU is what went wrong
It's just poorly written. That simple
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It was literally a parody of Thor. Hemwsorth played him as a Frank Drebin, except not as funny
It looked cheap too. The costumes for the first time really looked like costumes. Prior to this Thor's clothes (and really most of what the Asgardians wore) looked like clothes. In this they looked like cheap costumes. The giant "city of the gods" or whatever that was supposed to be looked cheap. It all looked cheap. What passed on Ragnorak as just another alien world where shit looked like that ended up looking stupid in this.
The cheapness worked for ragnarok because it was mostly on a literal trash planet. Not sure why they went for the same aesthetic for OLYMPUS
>looks at jane's thor outfit with a helmet
>lightning himself a new outfit
>super large helmet
>the helmet is too large, and hard to take off
lol these comedic genius
a bunch of millionaire losers making a shitty movie for people outside their class and have to rely on the exploitative movie theater ticket sales and hollywood accounting to be successful.
I'd lock up every single person involved and mark the date down as a federal celebratory holiday.
''Taika Waititi'' is a pedophile, right? I wouldn't let a kid near a guy with that physiognomy
>ITS MIGHTY THOR!
so epic, they did that comics page in the movie!!!
>"OR IF YOU CANT SAY THAT, I ACCEPT ... DOCTOR JANE FOSTER!!!!"
they made it even better
Ragnarok at least had Cate Blanchett as eyecandy.
Saw this movie, thought it was a 7/10, better than every other Thor movie by having coherent themes and character beats.
Can someone explain to me why everyone rabidly hates this? Tried to talk about the film elsewhere, and I got hit with people going
>Woah you actually like it
And whenever I asked for elaboration they just went "It's bad", even saw some people defending the godawful first two Thor films in order to shit on it.
Before watching, I figured it'd be something to do with homosexuals, but nearly all scenes involving that are played for jokes and the focus of the film is entirely on Thor wanting to frick his ex.
Thought it'd be female Thor, but she jobs constantly and dies of AIDS at the end rather than being an overpowered Captain Marvel tier sloot.
I don't get the hate.
I did actually enjoyed this film as well. Went in for a nice superhero film on the same vibe as Ragnarok and enjoyed it for what it was.
All the hate I see here just seem to be from people that just want to hate it no mater what.
There were a lot of good scenes but thats what the movie was. And everything was done on a sliding scale. So everything they need to work just works when they need it to and doesn't work when they need to get to the next scene. The hammer cancer stuff was fundamentally broken. The sad thing is the comic got that right and got the magic can't cure wrong. The movie flips it around and gets it completely wrong messing up a couple of scenes.
Honestly it feels more like people trying to take out their pent up hate-boner for the MCU that's been brewing over the last couple of releases than anything else to do with the film alone. The movie was fine, and ironically one of the few good MCU films of recent memory since it actually had a coherent narrative.
>Honestly it feels more like people trying to take out their pent up hate-boner for the MCU that's been brewing over the last couple of releases than anything else to do with the film alone
Don't get why people hate it. If you like gay comic book shit, you'd only hate this if you're a lore autist, and you'd hate every other film as well.
If you're a normal person, you wouldn't care for these movies in the first place
>b-buh they're too popular!! they're taking up all the theater showings!!!
Go to an independent theater moron. I have 3 in my local area and I live in a city with a total population of 300K
Disney and Feige with their infinite mania to deconstruct what was perfect to bring something woke
Remember when mcu had sincerity and soul?
>Thor 1
>soul
The only soul that movie had was the fact that they put the stupid tin can monster on a 7/11 cup like he was important
back then the franchise was risky and they had to take it serious. nowadays they just phone it in 90% of the time.
The phase 1 movies were all directed by legitimate directors(aside from Whedon). After that Disney hired a bunch of TV directors so they could launder the money.
don't forget all the Rick and Morty writers
plus they were allowed to do their own thing so they felt different. Looking back Feige obviously somewhere in their thought he was the sole reason for success and became way to heavy-handed and controlling, and it's been pretty obvious as the movies have gotten weaker and weaker he's really fricking over-rated
They got director's that fit the character. Joe Johnston was perfect for a WW2 Captain America movie. Kenneth Branagh was perfect for a Shakespearean Thor movie. After that they started hiring a bunch of TV directors or indie directors they could control from the boardroom.
I wish we had got Brian Blessed (Branagh's choice) instead of Hopkins as Odin.
None of those were soul. They were dishonest comic book movies.
Thor 1 and first avenger sucked ass
Before the Dark Times
Before Yidsney
it's a movie for 12-year-olds
only it has cancer and the death of a child
Don’t forget the actual child soldiers cuz having a power fantasy via Thor is too sophisticated
Bale was actually good until Taika made him ham it up once the necrosword took over and the dialogue was absolutely cringe
>tells audience directly ‘all gods must die’ in the first three minutes
You can imagine a better movie having a mystery about what’s happening then the sweet reveal of the God Butcher name once Gorr’s encountered but Mr Cohen couldn’t help himself. Also the tonal shifts near actually gave me whiplash in my seat
They think their audience is so stupid that they can't figure out a villains motivation without some random whispering saying "NEW MISSION kill all the gods kill all gods"
Like in Eternals where they had a Jon Snow awkwardly ask why they didn't fight Thanos when the scene with them standing by as the conquistadors killed the Aztecs spelled it out clearly
there was a good movie here if it had been played straight and without the kidnapping shit. they fricked this up horrendously with the comedy
Marvel stopped giving a shit, they're now like the DCEU which is something I never thought would happen but it is happening
Every other line had to include a joke, the whole plotline with the kids just seemed to be there for the hell of it, the whole bit with Heimdal's kid wanting a different name, god butcher butchers no gods. Gorr should have been a multi film villain, Bale was the best part of the movie but he gets jobbed after 1 fight & the axe being stolen was biggged up to probably be a bigger issue than it was since that issue was resolved in literally the next scene because Zeus' weapon can just teleport people.
>Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?
Taika Waititi found out that he had some israelite in him, and then started getting shittons of money and awards, instead of being relegated to making SNL sketches and superbowl commercials, which is what he was born to do.
they wouldnt have gotten away with stripping a female character or even a nonwhite male
>Zeus is mentioned as this greatest of the gods and looked up to by basically all of them
>he appears
>he's a joke character/loser
I hate this trope so fricking much bros
At least when Sony Santa Monica "subvert" a character like Baldr or Thor it's for a coherent narrative (single mother fricking up her kid by being overprotective, gluttonous terrifying monster king that does whatever tf he wants, etc)
>Zeus, who is still a human god
>talks about who has the most sacrifices this year?
have the greeks ever sacrifices to zeus? are they still killing people in the name of zeus?
not every sacrifice is about killing people
you can even just burn vegetables
Why was Jane, Thor, Valkyrie reaction so disappointed to it then?
AFAIK greeks didn´t do human sacrifices, their offerings to the gods were cattle, crops and symbolic rituals.
>have the greeks ever sacrifices to zeus?
Yes. Greek men swallow seed rather than let it fertilize.
He’s not a loser, he’s just a dick.
>he likes to entertain
>still mogs all the other gods
russel crowe doing a dirtbag greek accent was fricking hilarious
Sounded more like a bad mix of an Italian and Gopnik than anything else but Greeks are subhuman so who knows maybe that's what they sound like
crowe was spot on with his accent.
Leaned a bit too far on the humor, still pretty good tho.
>still pretty good tho.
Wild that people like this exist. Wonder if they actually believe this or if it's just the default response they're programed to spit out about anything they consume but about which they don't really have any strong thoughts or feelings. Like bland sludge games all getting 7s from every outlet by default.
>Has a different opinion to you
>triggers rant
I enjoyed the film man, chill out. Do I think a bit more drama and a bit less humor would have made it better? yes. but it's still a fun way to spend a couple hours.
>rant
homie that's two sentences with no expletive?
>reddit spacing
>insecure over other people being confused by your moronation
go back
Taika would never do that joke since that's actually something that matters to him
The problem with people like you is that you talk like this has to be some life changing experience else it's shit. When most people just want to get their 10dollars worth of tickets back by being entertained for two hours. The movie is ok for that.
>The problem with people like you is that you talk like this has to be some life changing experience else it's shit
Anon you need to touch grass because you've either been arguing with too many people on twitter or you've been reading too many posts of people laughing at this dogshit and the morons that get insecure about defending it, to the point you're arguing with phantoms. I never said or acted like this needs to be some masterpiece, and now you're inventing people in your head bc you got worked up. Go outside, maybe actually hang out with people and have some fun.
But anon! I don't know anyone nor have any friends. W-would you be so kind as to go outside with me?
>marvelgays are ESL turdworlders
thank you America for emboldening these global slaves and making them a part of the zeitgeist
Just keep strawmanning anytime someone laughs at you fricking copetard dweeb
I didn't SAY I was strawmanning. Just take a moment and calm down.
what a frick?
It's a family comedy. You're too old to fully enjoy this movie. You take your kids to go see it so they can have some fun outside the house for once in their pitiful suburban penitentiary lives. You, in turn, get a couple cheap laughs to yourself, some fatty, salty popcorn, and a cup of bubbly sugar. It's not your idea of a great night out, but you couldn't afford a babysitter this week. Your wife is happy the kids had fun, but she would have rather had a glass of wine for once at a nice restaurant. It's okay. Some day soon you can save up for the babysitter.
This Taika Waititi's entire purpose.
How long do they show thors ass for?
I am not gonna take my nieces to see Thor´s ass.
it's a butt. they'll laugh. they're not raging homosexuals
You realize I said nieces and not nephews, right?
yes
How would them being lesbians make the situation worse?
moron
I genuinly don´t understand what point you are trying to make.
are they going to get so turned on by manass they're going to rush the screen and try and roungeupunch his fartbox and mount thor and frick his dickhole with their clit? it's a butt. theyve seen one before and have one of their own
and yes, they should show womans butts so boys can do all the above
>You take your kids to go see it
Nudity. Degeneracy. Stupidity.
Stay away from my kids, groomer.
Not enough Christian Bale.
Even Doug Walker hated it.
The dust hasn't settled, nobody has seen this movie yet
shut the frick up, every real fan has seen it
Marvel doesn’t have fans
I only watch Doctor Strange movies
I wish we actually got a sequel to the first DS
Doctor Strange 2 is a great sequel
meh
>nobody has seen this movie yet
Except, many people have, and the camrip is already available. Stupid zoomer, didn't anybody teach you the meaning of the word "nobody"?
the YT e-reviews are out, thats all I need to form an opinion.
>4 Thor movies
>Still no Bill
Instead we get Whor and a bunch of homosexuals.
Imagine how Waitit would ruin Bill.
>New Asgard has an Infinity Gauntlet, the reason why countless of their people died, themed ice cream shop
Imagine a gas chamber themed restaurant in Israel.
Americans make macabre shit like that all the time. Pic rel is a restaurant that coaxes people into heart issues by letting you eat free if you’re morbidly obese
>delicious artery-clogging food
>woman
yeah imagine making money off the holocaust haha it'd be crazy if some people did that in reality
Umm, the gauntlet had nothing to do with their people dying. Yea half of them got dusted like every other race but they were promptly returned like everyone else.
All the Black person kids as asgardian kids where very off puting
The floating head shit felt like something from Space Balls
It is a very silly movie, but the audience laughed. Sometimes that's all you need.
This gay is lying. This movie got no laughs from anyone. At best there are some weak chuckles in every screening, but the movie is a joy vacuum.
I'm tired of the villain with the annoying voice trope.
>zeus talks shit about how gorr cannot get to eternity so its fine
>put tells asgardians to fend for themselves against him even though the bifrost is the key to eternity
I imagine the scene in neo Asgard with the fight and the kids watching is some sort of ride concept. but it's something lame like television screens in a hotel with no windows.
>Thor knew where Eternity is and has Stormbreaker that could summon the Bifrost
>they could've completely saved themselves the time heist hastle in Endgame and just wished back everything as it was but without Thanos
The fact no one touches on this in the film is astounding. It was the first thing I thought of when this line was spoken.
He who remains wouldn't allow it and prune the universe if they try.
>forgot about that guy
oh shut up
>It had to happen the way it did because... BECAUSE IT JUST DID OKAY?!?
How satisfying
yes, welcome to comic book lore. Next, question.
>something something time police kang the conqueror
>scientist wants to explain wormhole theory
>puts a pen through folder paper
wtf
It's literally what happens in interstellar
So there's some butthole at the center of the universe granting wishes? Why didn't Thanos just go there saving us from countless shitty Marvel flicks
because until this movie the concept of Eternity granting wishes to the first person to find them hadn't been vomited onto paper by Taika and his ghostwriters/fluffers
Korg should have stayed dead. The movie was too goofy to earn the ending they wanted. You can have a silly movie with serious moments and have it work, but Marvel can't pull it off at all. The pacing was way too fast, always going to the next joke or fight scene. When Hershlag got cancer they had her cracking jokes, it's like they are afraid of being serious.
The Suicide Squad was a much better movie and it mixed serious scenes and humor well. I don't think Cohen is the issue all marvel movies have breakneck pacing and a lack of sincere scenes. I'm really surprised it took people this long to notice really they have been like this for a while. I wouldn't consider this movie worse than any other marvel film.
It felt like one of those one off comic from the 90s where it was canon or part of an event so the writers had the heroes goof around most of the time and do out of character shit for funsies.
everything
I just wanted Guardians 3 to come out already so I can completely cut off all investment from the MCU
I want Karen Gillan in full Nebula makeup/prosthetics to sit on my face after a long day of filming
Don't worry brother, next year. Also yeah, Gunn's Guardians are basically the only Marvel movies I genuinely love. I like Spider-Man and Doctor Strange as characters and enjoyed No Way Home, but outside of that the MCU Spidey take isn't anywhere close to Raimi's.
Not enough chaffed nipples and giant turd jokes for you yet? Not enough character "turns" that make no sense yet?
>Oh Gamorra I love you I love you I HEY gold lady want sum fuk?
GOTG is trash and its success is why we have shitty Taika Waititi Thor movies. Because they can shit out anything and people like you will lap it up and beg for more.
They have Taika David Cohen too much freedom. He doesn't know how to handle the script on a big budget blockbuster like this, and the man's ego is out of control. He went from doing okay indie comedy flicks, to having one decent Marvel flick (Ragnarok, which he didn't write) but unlike all the other faceless mcu directors he shoves himself in the movie, does all this wacky behind the scenes stuff, and appears in the press circuits like he's a fricking celebrity actor. Be humble and stfu, he should be happy to get the paycheque. They gave him the reigns on this one and I'm glad to see it flop, he needed the ego check. He will probably lose star wars too, or at least the studio will step in more.
Because ragnorak was carried by Loki and hulk
Too much gnr, way too many childish jokes but then they put too much lgbtq representation so it can't be recommended for actual children.
In short, this movie (and all marvel movies going forward) are from completely hopeless manchudrin and "cool wine aunt cat moms"
Why does Chris Pratt looks like shit ? what changed ?
Isn't he fricking 50
only 43. but if this keeps up he will have to be replaced soon, or they will use de-aging CGI on him.
His last one will be Guardians of the Galaxy vol 3, it's pretty much been confirmed by Gunn. Also people have been so boldly shitty to him on social media for being a Christian I can understand some of that taking a toll on him physically.
It's more they want Peter to look more mature post-Infinity War/Endgame, having lost Gamora.
looks like random Fisherman extra from Jaws
He was only in really good shape in the first GotG, he clearly stopped giving a shit after that because it made him famous and he didn't really need to try that hard anymore.
When tilted camera camrip angle you are, look as good, YOU will not, hmmm?
So thor is a cuck now? His b***h is in heaven getting fricked my Idris Elba while he's on earth raising another man's child
Saw the cam version, audio was shitty because the laughter was obnoxious, but I didn't mind, anyways I hope Natalie Portman never returns to this franchise, and Jesus Christ Loki was the glue of these movies, without him they only have cheap jokes and nothing else.
>Jesus Christ Loki was the glue of these movies
Thor and Loki's Bugs/Daffy dynamic was so good, hopefully they get Loki back in the next one since he's technically still around in the MCU again.
I liked the screaming goats reminded me of the first time I had sex
nobody was acting well in this film except for Bale
Nothing, it's a movie literally made for kids. It's a power fantasy for kids. It only has some jokes to entertain the parents, but that's it.
The villain is inconsequential and ultimately it's not evil, just a person who suffered.
Thor gets to be with Jane and becomes a father.
Mighty biceps Thor will inspire many kids to hit the gym, because they are absolutely massive to the point Thor mogs every other male in the film.
There is a scene where Thor uses his command voice and every man and woman around just bows to him, signalling him as the true king of Asgard. Then, jokes ensues, as he is not allowed by the script to take himself seriously.
The best thing about the movie is the same about every space mcu movie, where you get to see the different aliens, with their make-up and their ways. They don't get the spotlight but you see them enough as to be really entertained. I miss when SW was the universe that did this, but modern SW is shit.
I wasn't bothered by the whiplash tone of serious funny but it was clear the whole plot was guided by some serious training wheels so they could get in and out of each scene. And they basically had scenes they wanted to show with some offhand stuff to bridge between the scenes. I actually enjoyed most of it but it had some major major plot problems that make it hard for me to say it was a good movie. It had a lot of scenes where they got to do things that they hoped worked, and many did, but the movie itself just had problems if you paid attention. This isn't about keeping with the comic it didn't even keep up with itself. It just did whatever it wanted. That's a problem because ultimately if it was going to do that, they thought way too small and it was too derivative of what we've scene. I actually liked the goats.
It wasn't just a matter of too much goofy stuff, it was that it was placed even in scenes that were so serious. Like they can't keep a straight face for five minutes. Jane finally tells Thor she has cancer, then she gets comically nervous like, "Just kidding, I don't have cancer, what?" We see Jane sick in bed, dying of cancer, then here comes Thor who just broke the vending machine he thought was a refrigerator without a door.
Do you have autism? Jane is literally in denial as a cope mechanism. Thor says that about the machine because he broke it out of rage, and then brought her the candy and said that as to not make her worry unnecessarily.
There are a lot of jokes in this movie, but the ones you described are well placed jokes and work well within the story.
When Thor and Jane are in the scene the movie is good, the problem lies with the things that are beyond their relationship.
Jane was never in denial of having cancer. It played as incredibly forced to start now, especially with that goofy tone. And we didn't see Thor break the machine out of rage. It was just another joke about "Space viking doesn't know modern Earth technology" as if he's been on earth for ten years and doesn't know what a vending machine was.
again, do you have autism?
Jane is literally shown as not being able to cope with the fact that she has cancer, she even spells it out for you "one day i went to the doctor and they said i was in stage four".
And Thor breaks the machine right after he gets that Mjöllnir's radiation is actively stunting the chances of her to survive.
Yes, you said the word autism. I'll try again to explain why these scenes don't work, but I'm sure you're loading up a soijack, as that seems to be your level of engagement.
Jane opens up to Thor about her cancer. This should be a crucial moment in the movie's drama. But instead of letting it play out seriously between two adults, Jane suddenly starts saying she's kidding and they have the gratuitous back and forth before she finally admits it again. It doesn't play like an actual human in denial or using humor to deflate. It just makes it seem like the movie is undermining its own drama cause things were getting too heavy.
We hear the vending machine break off-screen. We don't see Thor's pained face as he smashes the machine out of impotent rage. That would be the kind of drama you're giving credit for. No, it's just a sound effect, and as the sound effect is followed by goofy face Thor coming in. plopping a whole bunch of snacks on Jane, and making the crack about the fridge without a door.
>Thor who just broke the vending machine he thought was a refrigerator without a door.
Legitimate autism
They cut valkyrie queen from the movie, also fatherhood protrayed well in an mcu movie was nice
I feel like disney is just seeing what the bare minimum they can do for a marvel movie and still make billions
Also I don't know why but the scene with thor in the hospital talking to the nurse about the chemo almost made me burst out laughing
That nurse was hot AF I'd let her examine my balls for cancer
It's true they dont show Jane becoming thor?
They just show her looking at the remains of Mjolnir in exhibition at New Asgard the clouds start to become grey and then cuts, then when Thor comes to save New Asgard she's already there fighting.
>THor literally kills Zeus
wtf bros
>message of the movie is that Jesus is the bad guy that needs to be stopped
oy vey
Gorr needed much more screen time. He needed to have more time at the beginning for the audience to see his suffering.
also, all the scenes with the kids fricking sucked
It was churned out by an unfunny egomaniac israelite who was allowed off his leash due to his last turd being a success.
It's a movie adapting two serious stories (Gorr butchering Gods and Jane with Cancer) turned into a full blown out comedy were nothing is taken seriously. Halfway into the movie, heck not even that far it was way sooner the audience stopped laughing at the jokes and you could feel the cringe in that room when there was a joke. Many jokes were reused way too much like the goats, they were funny in the first time but after that they kept playing that joke a less people started to laugh at them by the time they entered the city of gods or when they hit Gorr's planet no one in that room laughed at it because it had become annoying.
Christian Bale was by far the best thing in that movie, he was so misused, he had nearly no screen time and he didn't felt like he belonged to another movie, he belonged to a way better movie. It was a crime to see a guy that dominated each scene he was in sharing the screen with those clowns. If he just did that for the money and put no effort on it he just clowned everyone else in that movie. If he did put effort he shouldn't because it was a shame seeing such a great performance wasted on that garbage.
Well put. When they approached Gorr's planet and everything went black and white, it seems like it's going to be dark and serious now, but they had to throw in the goat sounds again.
Not only that but then they have that scene where Gorr corners them and they start fighting but halfway into the fight the fricking goats show up again and Korg starts quiping...
I really liked that scene but agreed for sure. Like jesus christ we get it, le epic meme characters tag along for the ride but leave them at that. When it was just Thor, Valkyrie, and Jane with Gorr and he's torturing them it was cool but can't have that last.
>could've gotten young thor, old thor, and present thor bickering with each other, riding space shark and heavy metal blasting
>Makes fun of all the world's gods except Yahweh
Yeah lets offend EVERYBODY.
Waititi is such an overrated hack, he made one decent movie and gets to his head that he's a genius who is the voice of the Maori people despite being a half-'white' mutt himself.
You didn't turn off your brain
6/10. It was ok. The ending saved it.
>reminds you again that he killed off the warriors three just so he could add his self insert OC and goblina mutt frickbuddy as Thor’s sidekicks
still sad tbh
Truly a shame. They were also well cast
>Yea got Robin Hood, Xena warrior princess, and... Jackie Chan? Comin down main street.
This line would be too racist for the modern mcu
Nobody gives a shit outside of NPCs.
The majority of normies checked out after endgame. The story was over and the characters they wanted to see either died or their stories had come to an end.
Mind you that most normies who were invested in the avengers plot had been because they had been watching the characters and ongoing story since 2007, 15 years ago, when they were children or young teenagers, and they story ended. Nobody gives a shit about whatever the the frick is going on now
Normies don't watch movies to see a character's story end. Normies will endlessly consume these movies as long as they continue to be good.
>Endless unfunny jokes
>Nothing matters
>Fat, run down Russell Crowe doing a sub-Open Mic Night Italian accent
>Movie ends with Thor becoming a father to some precocious brat whose gonna gorw up and take his title once Hemsworth gets written out of the MCU
At least Christian Bale turned in a good performance, his scenes were shocking in that they reminded me of the emotional resonance that acting and film is theoretically able to accomplish
The post credit scene Hercules looked like a 5'3" Mexican.
That ain't Hercules.
Even better, he a 5'10 israelite.
~~*hollywood*~~
I also thought he looked comically shitty considering this is the stinger that's supposed to make me excited about the future of the MCU
I thought Caitlyn Jenner did a pretty good job as the character "Jane"
I enjoyed it for Bale as Gorr. He was great, but definitely could've used more screentime instead of only mentioning his killstreak offscreen.
>The entire point of Ragnarok was that Thor’s power comes from within and not from the hammer, he doesn’t need it
>In this movie anyone can just pick up mjolnir and get Thor powers lmao
Fricking moronic
Thor easily killing Zeus.
But he didn't kill Zeus, did you not see the credit stinger?
Yea I did but how it happened was dumb. And he just knew how to use hos weapon to teleport? Guess the greek gods have a better method of travel than the Assguards
I dont understand why Gor wasnt killed off and Thor asking Eternity to cure Jane's Cancer.
I feel like every villain needs to have a redemption arch. I the simple bad guys are bad and good guys are good. Keep it simple. Its a comic book movie not a Nolan film. There main audience is just a bunch of kids and liberal families.
Gorr opened eternity door first
Does any know the girl next to Zeus during the stage scene? She was blonde on Zeus left. God she was hot as frick. I was literally looking at her the entire time instead of fat zeus.
Korg carried this movie
almost like watitti made everything around korg worse on purpose