Okay. So I finally watched the later seasons. And I just have one question.
WHAT THE FRICK HAPPENED TO THIS SHOW?!??!?!?!??!
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Okay. So I finally watched the later seasons. And I just have one question.
It became pretentious and too far up it’s own ass. You should have spared yourself from watching the latter half of the show.
Muto
they got too obsessed with shipping and lore. they forgot all the whimsy and playfulness of it all.
A change of direction in storytelling. Like a ton of other cartoons it started as a light hearted comedy and worked up into a more lore and plot heavy show.
It's not everyone's cup of tea and I understand/respect that. Still. I enjoy this kind of stuff.
>what happened
It got better, with actual character development and creative episodes. The first two seasons were just a bunch of lolsorandom stuff with zero story and mary-sue Finn
How was Finn a Mary Sue in the first two seasons? He didn’t get everything he wanted even back then.
You are a dumbass.
the lolrandom stuff was important for the first few seasons. It added levity to a D&D-esque show. people forget how old AT is now, when it was new cartoons were in the shitter and D&D was for queer-nerdos.
>D&D was for queer-nerdos in the 2010s
Over the top high fantasy was definitely appreciated by teens everywhere by then wtf even is this observation.
absolutely not. shit was a few years before it was mainstream, people were interested for sure but adventure time was the early days of public acceptance of nerd shit. D&D was a bridge too far for most people.
Even lord of the rings kino films were considered nerd shit when AT first started. AT and big bang theory normalized nerd shit for normies and made it acceptable to like it.
have a nice day with a belt
This, earlier seasons had a sense of wander, mistery and adventure
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why are chat bots invading Cinemaphile now?
nuATgays have been lurking here for years defending nothing but shit. This isn't new.
you sound like a hs fan
people falling for this bait this hard
what is going on with you man, your not aking any sense
Go back to your cuckshed Muto
>actual character development
>Finn becoming a depressed whiny b***h for 5 seasons
>>Finn becoming a depressed whiny b***h for 5 seasons
not to mention 6+ seasons of lesbian baiting until the final season when the writers dropped all nuance and turned the show in to Bubblegum and Marceline Lesbian Time featuring Finn and Jake in the background.
It took risks and was great for it.
I'm a moron who can't count, what is considered "later seasons"
The last stuff I saw was the Kumail Nanjiani guest spot with the apocalypse clip show episode. Is it good to have stopped there or is there anything worthwhile I missed?
Later seasons are 6-10 for me. It was good until about the premiere of the following season you watched, then it goes massively downhill. There are a few stinkers here and there in season 5 though.
Is anyone interested in an Adventure Time sequel?
I have some interest in the Fionna and Cake sequel/spinoff despite my better judgment. I kind of just want Finn to stay out of the writers' sight for his own safety.
What about a sequel retcon reboot?
The comics?
No an entire new series but retconning all the poopie out of the original show.
>I kind of just want Finn to stay out of the writers' sight for his own safety.
Unfortunately Finn is confirmed to appear in the spin-off.
>I have some interest in the Fionna and Cake sequel/spinoff despite my better judgment
I'm only going to be looking into it to see what's up with Simon.
>Unfortunately Finn is confirmed to appear in the spin-off.
Honestly, it feels more like they have no faith in the F&C spin-off doing well if they still need Finn (a character who they already gave a complete ending) to be around for more of their shit simply because he is one of the faces of the series.
>a character who they already gave a complete ending
He barely even got a complete ending and left everything regarding his life a blank slate for no reason because Muto is a fricking idiot.
>He barely even got a complete ending and left everything regarding his life a blank slate for no reason because Muto is a fricking idiot.
True and I fricking hate that. Doesn't help the character is already dead as shown in together again and no I don't care if he never said how he died, the point is he's dead and his story is basically over. That kinda makes having him around even more pointless
its a big writing issue because all of the art remains (fairly) consistent. i think it was the influx of younger talent taking over the directoral/lead writing roles post-Pen Ward.
you get 24/25 year olds who are like, "I understand nerd culture and comics andall the things that make AT great!" and then they have to adhere to S&P from CN/Warner, then they realize that the show isn't just lol-iront jokes, then it just decays.
why do you think they had to actually pursue the Fiona and Cake storyline? the episode was made to tease shippers/fan artists but the crew actually wanted to write for a teen dramedy. Age up Fiona and give her lots of bOoOoYyYyYysssss to fawn over, and you can just rip of your favorite k-drama episodes.
>had Keith David voice an evil king
>waste him
Someone eventually got that right
>Muh lore
>LGBTQIA+∞
>lesbians
based
>no finn harem
it was an unnecessary change
>used to ship Bubbeline and drew a little fanart
>get burnt out from the show around s6/7
>find out Bubbeline became canon
>feel nothing
What happened? I'm not even the shipping type anymore. I just rewatched the pilot and remembered all the magic and whimsy I felt. I like how some characters developed and lore can be fun but I love that lighthearted silly adventure too. Writingwise, is a balance even possible in a series? Or is it inevitable that magical charm will disappear once the answers to the worldbuilding surface?
Could we see some of your old art?
Maybe the reason you burned out from Bubbeline is because that while its Canon, it didnt turn out how you expected?
I don't actually know how they get together in the end (might catch up someday), I meant that my investment in the show as a whole fizzled out somewhere around s6-7 and I haven't picked it back up since. Can't access my drawings right now, sorry, but they weren't that exciting. I wasn't like a super aggressive shipper either, it was more fluff.
if this thread is still up by then, I'd love to see it. Even if theyre not that exciting.
Sugar fricked it up before she left to work on her own show to ruin her competition
A showrunner who didn't have a clear vision for the series and let the crew run wild. Also millennials being millennials and relationship drama.
Pen had a vision, it's what worked about the show in the first place. If you're talking about his successor, he also had a vision, it was just contrary to his predecessor's. Because yes, you're correct, Pen was too permissive. I understand wanting to let everyone contribute, but some ideas are just stupid. I imagine he actually was shooting down stupid ideas for the show to do as well as it did in the beginning, but the pressure got to him eventually.
The writer's unironically started getting off on Finn being miserable.
the problem is that Finn aged with his actor and when you're an hormone-addled teen and apparent last human, you gonna have urge to sow your oats
Women
CHADam Muto IMPROVED it.
it got better as it went on
I dropped off around Flame Princess and was gonna pick it up again until I heard that Jake died and MarcyxBubblegum
I kinda knew instinctively the show wasn’t worth it
I want Finn to date the shortstack italian chick.
poggers he's back
im not him.
Muto took over, he admitted he hated Finn, that's why he was sidelined in his own show.
homosexuals
They struggled to balance the series' original zany lightheartedness with the deeper themes they wanted to convey, and ultimately it fell flat. Also, a lot of people on the team had a Finn hateboner for some reason.
Finn was an upstanding and successful young man. Everyone was seething over a cartoon character having a better life than them.
Yep
James Baxter episode was the death of Adventure Time
>SU crew has James Baxter animate an emotional and poignant scene of the show's finale
>AT crew has him animate a random horse (twice)
Adventure Time deserved everything it had coming
Baxter wasting his beautiful talent on either awful, calarts-styled show is an atrocity.
Probably because he has nothing to do with the mouse these days and is free to do what he wants
I tried re watching it and i only enjoyed the first season.
Honest to god the answer is gays, women, and inexperienced brown people hired for "diversity" reasons.
Seriously, look into it. The show's lead writers were primarily Straight Whites and Asians for the first 60-70ish episodes? Back then it was pretty much just the feeling of whimsy you got from smoking weed and playing D&D with your pals for the first time in highschool. With harmless jokes, fun characters, a little adventure and violence here and there.
Then the feminists and diversity hires started worming their way in with shipping, implied gay shit, making Finn and all the men look like crybaby losers that can't get women. Focusing on the "past" and "deep lore" because homosexuals and women can't let go of the past and are obsessed with it.
Sons of Mars was the last "real" episode. There's some okay ones here and there afterwards, but the show turned to complete shite as the original writers started slipping away into "Producer" credits and the writers were inconsistent randoms brought on to compound everything into shite even further.
Really was a shame, show had a lot of potential that it just completely missed out on. Thank god for Regular Show.
No way was Rebecca Sugar worse for AT than Jesse Moynihan
Jesse could've made Breezy but he didn't make the Flame b***h like Sugar did.
God I hate her so much its unreal
How so? Rebecca's influence at least had more of an effect on the shows atmosphere than Jesse's for better or for worse
Moynihan is the one who really started pushing his personal relationship bullshit onto the characters. Sugar just wanted to do drama bait. She's a much bigger target because her face is out there more, but Moynihan is a big reason the show became about navel gazing and subverting expectations
Muto, Moynihan and Sugar were the unholy globohomosexual Triumvirate that conquered and destroyed Adventure Time.
WiA.
>women in animation killed AT
Almost everyone of the adventure Time crew was unexperienced they're literally just penn"s friends from Tumblr.
Started to get boring and take itself too seriously which became a slog to sit through.
>WHAT THE FRICK HAPPENED TO THIS SHOW?!??!?!?!??!
>Saturn devouring his son
Penn Ward quit and some homosexuals and Sugarstein took over and squandered his creation.
The show sas literally subverted by homosexual israelites, and they made it terrible
>never watched AT when it was airing
>never watched AT when it finished
Did I make the right choice?
No, because if you like cartoons in any capacity there's a lot of gold in the earlier seasons. I still think about some of the gags even all these years later. Season 5 is when it started to jump the shark, and not in a fun way.
Id argue that the last amazing episode was the season 6’s premiere
The whole Fern thing was fricking stupid, but just one of the many problems the show had after shoving its head so far up its own ass
They dropped the "Adventure" in favor of DRAMA.
The occult vibes were great. The best time to watch was late at night, with a bit to sleep delirium.
Pendleton Ward quit and let troons take it over and turn it in to lgbtq+ propaganda. This lead in to Steven universe
season 3 B to season 5 being this show’s peak is the only co related hill I’ll fricking die on and I don’t care what anyone says
Frick anti lore gays, frick lore gays, frick co/tumbler, and frick you, yes you the person reading this
Two words, Rebecca sugar