How feminist/girl power slay is this show gonna be?
I for one can't wait for them to ignore all of Rhaenyra's crimes and make her a lawful good martyr.
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How feminist/girl power slay is this show gonna be?
I for one can't wait for them to ignore all of Rhaenyra's crimes and make her a lawful good martyr.
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11. And dont expect any kind of nudity or male on female violence. They will also somehow whitewash Alicent too by making her a brainwashed victim of the patriarchy or something
Patriarchy wins
>any kind of nudity
there will be male nudity, and many gay sex scenes, and you will enjoy them so much that you become bicurious
Came to say this. Plenty of "brave" nudity but nothing appealing. Frick this timeline.
>Men would rather put the realm to torch than see a woman ascend the Iron Throne
The whole story is just asking for it.
So the Velaryons, Starks, Arryns, Tullys ect, were all females during the war? All these houses supported Rhaenyra FFS
No. Starks and Tullys had a male lord at the time
So did the Velayrions but they got blacked so fricked in another way.
The person making that claim was specifically Rhaenys. And she had reasons to be eternally butthurt. Far more than Rhaenyra even
>>Men would rather put the realm to torch than see a woman ascend the Iron Throne
The irony of this line is that plenty of men were willing to support Rhaenyra. Literally half the realm lol. Like yes her gender played a part in the conflict but there was also the matter of rule of law as well as pure ambitious power mongering on both sides.
Being Daddy's Favorite Sugar Plum doesn't override precedent.
This line doesn't bother because because it's true, and those men are correct for feeling that way
Also it's one character trying to manipulate another into starting a way. Seems reasonable. I doubt using chud logic on her would work
>Men would rather put the realm to torch than see a woman ascend the Iron Throne
Where's the lie? I'd certainly put the realm to the torch before seeing a woman rule. Wouldn't we all?
The big meme here is that Rhaenyra put the realm to the torch rather than give up the big girl chair.
The Greens take the cake when it comes to burning shit up. Aemond just went castle to castle with Vhagar and just melted them. He has the highest killcount by far, and after he was done, the entire Riverlands were just scorched earth.
IT WAS HER TURN
Some women are competent enough.
Why did they go out of their way to cast the ugliest actors possible in the lead roles?
Is that the have sex guy from Morbius?
Ye lol
Idk but everyone is so ugly. Rhaenyra was supposed to be a total bombshell before she got fat and bitter. Alicent was also pretty. And all the men actors are ugly after too and have skeletal defects.
That's truth in fiction tho, a family with centuries-long history of incest would not look pretty
Green Bros waiting for Roastie to be served all toastie
All I know is Cinemaphile is a Greens board
Frick Blacks
JUSTICE b***h QUEEN
I can't wait for all the normies to react to this like they did to the Red Wedding
She's going to be a brave woman that don't need no man and marries Blacks and goes to her death smug
>don't need no man
If they leave out the part where she tried to convince Cole to run away to Essos with her and abandon their responsibilities kek.
They will probably cut down that whole Arc and just to make it him asking her to leave with him like he did later on.
Cole is the one that tried to convince her.
She rejected him (despite the fact she was throwing herself at him before) because while she did want Cole, she wanted the throne more.
Literally nobody is actually good in the Dance. This isn't like the time of the books where Ned and his family were honorable and sort of the good guys. Both the blacks and the greens were dreadful people and everyone had personal stakes in it.
>Cole is the one that tried to convince her.
Yeh ik. My point is that they will probably leave out the part where she just throws herself at him for years and just skip to him getting wienerblocked because otherwise it would make her look really bad.
Ha. Well, probably. They unfortunately have a lot of excuses as they're adapting nearly what, 15 years of story
They can skip a lot of shit that's integral to establishing a character and then just say "it wasn't important".
I do wonder if they will have learned from Daenerys and at least try to make Rhaenyra's fall better though.
>Aegon
>won
Dragon crippled by a grandma and then killed by a teenage.
And then he died poisoned by his own people.
Big win there.
Greens are nothing but mommy's boy cucks
>>won
Though it is a wonder that Sunfyre didn't choke on the usurper's vile taste
>Greengays actually think Aegon won
Can't wait to see him get his shit pushed in constantly.
Aemond is the only good green
>mommy's boy cucks
^this, so much this!
They need a BLACKED queen like Rhaenyra
I really hate the casting choice. I legitimately have no shitposting reply to this. It's an easy check mate.
It's ok, anon. I hate how they literally BLACKED the Blacks, even if I am a Greengay.
wtf?
Rhaenyra was a fat prostitute with a homosexual husband who cucked him and attempted to put her cuck spawn on the throne and you support her because le badass women. Youre either a troll woman or a very pathetic and cringe nerd boy
Actually, I support the blacks because of Daemon and Rhaenys. Objectively they were the two best dragon riders.
Rhaenyra's a huge b***h.
>Rhaenys
She's the only Black I like since she's half-Baratheon and should have been queen
Exactly
Again, shitposting aside, the only things I'm legitimately looking forward to are the dragon duels. Meleys against Sunfyre and Vaghar and then Vaghar against Caraxes.
Rhaenys knew she had no support. Rhaenyra had it. That was the difference I imagine
Although Rhaenys was a far better dragon rider and warrior.
>Greens are nothing but mommy's boy cucks
Your queen murdered babies and her bastards had brown hair
Not true, some of the younger princes and princesses were mostly good. Especially, but not entirely, on Rhaenyra’s side.
I'm talking mostly about the main characters.
The only person of the main character's we've seen casted so far that was honorable in any way is Rhaenys. She's butthurt eternally but she is honorable.
That said the show has made her into a blacked joke so, that's it's all fricked
>That said the show has made her into a blacked joke so, that's it's all fricked
It fits
Blacks are always whinging for things that aren't theirs
I’m surprised they didn’t have Daenerys go out that way like Olenna. But I guess they thought the romance was so good or whatever that people would be sad for her.
They were desperate for Le Subversive Ending
Why is this dragon so excited about beyond chicken
Dragon got fricked up in a fight because she started a war over a throne she had no right to, so he got to eat her and win the war.
He has a basedface
>Cinemaphile is a greens board
Reminder your king got his shit fricked up by a 50 year old woman while he had a 2 to 1 advantage.
Shitposting aside, the only things I'm really looking forward to are the Rooks Nest duel and the Godseye duel. Though I know I'll be disappointed by shit cgi and cinematography
>Reminder your king
Won
Your queen got eaten alive by his dragon.
Rhaenys actually had a sane reaction to getting passed over for the throne unlike the Queen b***h of Dragonstone.
>Blacks=woke
>Greens=based
This show just exists to let everyone know that blacks built literally everything good in Westeros and that all men are evil.
>Valyrians were considered strikingly, some say inhumanly, beautiful.
Oops
House Velaryon, of the blood of Old Valyria
racists get the rope too
Watching this mullato femboy get NTR'd by Strong and every other man Rhaenyra spreads for will be enjoyable.
Laenor probably didn't give a shit. He was a gay.
What girl had the fattest ass in this time period?
Bessy
>What girl had the fattest ass in this time period?
Rhaenyra
She never lost the pregnancy fat according to descriptions of her.
she was a thick MILF?
Supposedly yes. She was the most beautiful lady in the kingdoms in her youth but then got fat because she never lost the pregnancy weight.
Although curiously the actress seems to look the same in every scene in the show. By the time she married Daemon she already had 3 kids.
>they didn’t make the actress get fat
they took this from us
why are fat and beautiful considered to be mutually exclusive in that time? in the modern world with obese Americans yes but I fail to see how a chubby noblewoman wouldn’t be hot
I didn't realise how fricked the Velaryons were by wars end
A bastard ended up inheriting Driftmark? Somehow I'd either not known or forgotten.
Yeah Velaryons never became the house they were after. They basically all died.
Here's a funny tidbit. If Laena had been alive by the time of the war, the blacks would have had Caraxes, Vaghar and Meleys all on their side.
Kind of funny that the Velaryons almost all died and became poor, while the Hightowers continued to grow and prosper, and one of Aegon III's half-sisters even married into House Hightower.
How do we stop the Hightower menace?
Dragonfire. Copious amounts.
Aegon's biggest mistake was not burning Oldtown to the goddamn ground when he invaded Westeros.
why do you guys hate the hightowers?
Because they are mad that their sloppy hedgeknight ravaged queen got outplayed at court by a generic noble woman with generic ambitions.
How'd she get outplayed? Her son sat the Iron Throne and killed Rhaenyra.
Targs are conniving c**ts. Everyone is. The conniving began the moment Aegon died and his heirs started squabbling and plotting against each other.
Difference is the Velyaryons and Targaryens got outplayed and are beggared, dead or fled, while the Hightowers plan well and are wealthy and powerful and always have been. That fact seems to be the true source of your anger.
>Targs are conniving c**ts. Everyone is. The conniving began the moment Aegon died and his heirs started squabbling and plotting against each other.
You mean the heirs that were manipulated by the people around them through lies and scheming
>targs are so mentally weak it's everyone else's doing for every decision they make
sounds like they're shit and deserve to die then
Because they're scheming conniving c**ts and the perfect representation of the Westerosi ruining the Targs.
Aegon should have never compromised. They were goddamn dragon lords. And it only took 3 or 4 generations for the houses of Westeros to pit Targ against Targ and basically reduce them down to their level
>Westerosi ruining the Targs.
The Targs ruined themselves lmao.
>Targs ruined themselves
Targs ruined themselves because they let the Westerosi ruin them.
Heck it started all the way with Aegon and how they pit Rhaenys and Visenya, and their children, against each other.
Visenya was literally evil and murderous. Rhaenys legitimately did nothing wrong in that rivalry lol. She also actively aided and abetted Maegor despite him being literally targ Hitler.
>Visenya was literally evil
Total and complete propaganda.
>the official lore book is propaganda
Ok muscle girl simp
Nettles wasn't black to begin with
>Nettles wasn't black to begin with
Pretty clear she is from GRRM's comments
She's described as skinny and brown, and her mother was a westerosi prostitute. Add her targ blood into the mix and she almost certainly would like more vaguely beige and dornish than sub saharan.
Like it's certainly possible she had a summer islander in her ancestry but unless one was her immediate father then there's absolutely no reason to suspect she looks like an African person.
>the official lore
The official lore is written from the perspective of the maesters and chroniclers so it's a bias retelling
Objectively, what we know is that Visenya grieved Rhaenys death just like Aegon, and that despite disagreeing with how limp wristed he was, she took care of Aenys and kept him alive after the maesters had given him up for dead.
She crowed Maegor because Aenys son had no dragon, was a teenager, and would not have been able to put down the religious zealots. Maegor could
Dread it. Run from it. Hightower still arrives.
We will not stop until all of Westeros is "I fricking love science :)"-tier.
based, i love science too :3
I heard Thistle is gonna be black.
True?
>burns your village
Heh..nothin personal...kid
>So let me get this straight, the Greens offered me a bunch of titles and stuff but you just want me to hail you and then I can loot and kill everything in sight??
>yes
>....
>So what--
>DEAL!!
(Screaming Westerman noises in background)
*takes revenge on the ironbabbies*
(screaming Iron"men" noises in the background)
And who are you, the proud lord said...
I'm looking forward to this, honestly
Nothing will ever beat the same as GOT at it's peak, but I think I will still enjoy this. At least I hope so and I'm not pre-emptively angry at it though I understand people who feel that way after GOT S8.
I'm just happy I'm getting more medieval/fantasy kino
🙁
Daily reminder that the throne rejected Rhaenyra and cut her hand open.
that and a dragon (the symbol of the targaryens) ate her
based
Has Mushroom been cast yet?
yeah, it's Zendaya
made me lol
PUG NOSES
BROWN HAIR
>Valyrian blooded characters are cast with black actors and actresses
How would you react if HBO cast Nettles with a white girl?
Reminder that Rhaegar and his teenage side squeeze have tens of thousands of deaths on their neck because he was a pedo and couldnt be bothered to reply to inquiries charging him with rape and kidnapping.
Would Stannis back the Blacks or the Greens?
He's the closest thing to objective in ASOIAF so I'd probably back whomever he would.
Stannis believes in rule of law so 100% the greens. He'd not even flinch. Actually he might be a bit conflicted if he had been forced to take the Loyalty oath with the others. In the books he admits that he actually had to think long and hard before siding with Robert, because he had sworn a vow to Aerys when becoming a lord.
But yeh greens.
He was a greensgay because precedent supported the greens.
Although, if he had been the lord of Storm's End, assuming he consented to kneeling to Viserys request to recognize Rhaenyra as his heir, then he'd have supported Rhaenyra because he gave his word.
>precedent
Law?
It wasn't codified law. Pretty sure that only happened after the civil war.
Before that, it was just precedent because Rhaenys was passed over in favor of Viserys.
>codified
None of it was ever codified, their laws are rooted in tradition. It was never codified afterwards either because that would have suggest Rhaenyra ever had a sliver of righteousness in her cause, and she didn't (by the laws and traditions of Westeros).
All the high houses swore themselves to her as the heir, and Viserys never rescinded that.
Rhaenyra was the heir, even if that was against tradition, the lords swore themselves to that.
There's a reason the Starks followed the blacks
>There's a reason the Starks followed the blacks
Yeh, and that reason is because the Starks got promised a marriage alliance with House Targaryen. Cregan was a pragmatist. He knew he could hold the balance if he chose to intervene.
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>All the high houses swore themselves to her as the heir, and Viserys never rescinded that.
He commanded them to do it. Oaths made under force are not valid.
>Rhaenyra was the heir, even if that was against tradition, the lords swore themselves to that
Yes she was the heir, until a boy was born, which automatically knocked her out of the chair. The king isn't above the law. This isn't tsarist Russia.
>he commanded them to
Viserys was not the type to punish a lord that refused to kneel in that situation.
Again, they recognized her as heir
>Yes she was the heir, until a boy was born, which automatically knocked her out of the chair
No it didn't. It wasn't just a matter of her being the heir because she was the only issue Viserys had. He named her heir specifically, which is different, and then demanded the lords recognize it through oath, which they did. And he never rescinded that.
She was Viserys heir, and the lords were oathbound to recognize it
That's why this entire mess even happened. Viserys created the mess, Alicent made it worse, and Rhaenyra put the final nail by having Aegon's children killed and turning the entire thing personal.
>Stark's got promised a marriage
Which was no longer possible and yet Cregan still went ahead and took King's Landing for the blacks and made sure to kill every snake in the court.
Starks don't operate on personal interest.
>No it didn't. It wasn't just a matter of her being the heir because she was the only issue Viserys had. He named her heir specifically, which is different, and then demanded the lords recognize it through oath, which they did. And he never rescinded that.
>She was Viserys heir, and the lords were oathbound to recognize it
King's and lords don't get to choose their heir in westeros. It's literally never worked that way. Its primogeniture. Full stop.
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>Starks don't operate on personal interest
Yes we know. The Starks are deities among men who never did nuffin. Their shit doesn't stink. Take that shit to The Hungry Wolf's grave lmao. Ask the Vale if the Starks are perfect angels.
>Viserys was not the type to punish a lord that refused to kneel in that situation.
he literally had men's tongues cut out for less
An oath against thousands of years of law, and one that never forswore them from adopting a real heir under the laws of the land.
You may as well argue that Jon Arryn should have given Robert and Ned to Aerys II because he commanded it, even if it broke every law.
An oath is as good as a written contract in this scenario
Rhaenyra had every right to demand to be crowned, just as Aegon had every right to demand it due to said thousand years of law.
If either of them had nothing to stand on they'd not have had support to actually start a war.
>An oath is as good as a written contract in this scenario
According to what?
>Rhaenyra had every right to demand to be crowned
Any uncle-fricker who must demand the right doesn't have the right.
Let us also remember that all of her children were illegitimate
>according to what
That's how oaths work. A spoken contract used to be valid under law even in real life (and still is in some places).
>Any uncle-fricker who must demand the right doesn't have the right.
Considering she got usurped of a right that was given, lawful or not, she had to make the demand.
Again to clarify, nobody involved in the Dance was in any fricking way legitimate in their actions. Aegon usurped the rightful heir based on previous law but he still usurped the damn heir
Rhaenyra ignored the law of the realm in favor of demanding the realm recognize the oaths they made to her.
This should have been resolved by a great council, but because the entire point of the war was to pit Targ against Targ to destroy their dragons and their power, the greens manipulated Aegon and the other green Targs and kick started a war, Aemond killed his nephew, and Rhaenyra used Daemon to reply in kind.
>the greens manipulated Aegon
Poor Innocent Rhaenyra didn't get the chair she wanted so she killed millions and wiped out the dragon population rather than take it on the chin like a sane person. Boo hoo
Maybe Aegon should stop being such a mommy's boy and bend over for Alicent if he doesn't want to be seen as the king that got played by the Hightower scum
She had every right to the throne.
Again, a great council should have been called.
>She had every right to the throne.
[citation needed]
An oath against thousands of years of law, and one that never forswore them from adopting a real heir under the laws of the land.
You may as well argue that Jon Arryn should have given Robert and Ned to Aerys II because he commanded it, even if it broke every law.
>Again, a great council should have been called.
You wouldn't have liked that since the last council upheld male succession.
>You wouldn't have liked that since the last council upheld male succession.
But it would have been legitimate. Rather than a butthurt simp that didn't get his dicky putting a mommy's boy on the throne.
And then got his dragon murdered by a teenager riding a juvenile
>And then got his dragon murdered by a teenager riding a juvenile
*His blind, crippled dragon
Big wowzers
His blind crippled dragon that got blinded and crippled in a dragon duel against a 50 year old woman
While backed up by goddamn Vaghar.
>against a 50 year old woman
She didn't have a dragon?
He was still dealing with a 50 year old dragon rider.
And the biggest factor here, it was 2 on 1.
>He was still dealing with a 50 year old dragon rider.
So a more experienced dragon rider, is what you're basically saying?
It doesn't matter if it's 2 to 1 if the 1 gets its jaws around one of the 2. The little people riding the dragons won't have a good time either way. It's an incredibly peevish thing to keep harping on.
The 50 year old woman bit is a shitpost
The fact he got his dragon crippled even when he was fighting 2 vs 1 is not a shitpost
Aegon was a shitter. A subpar dragonrider, a subpar warrior
Aemond did literally all the heavy lifting.
>The 50 year old woman bit is a shitpost
Not really, Rhaenys was one of the best dragon riders in the realm
>The fact he got his dragon crippled even when he was fighting 2 vs 1 is not a shitpost
Well it still is because like I said, 2 to 1 against an experienced dragon rider isn't just a game of numbers. Once that dragons has its jaws around another it's going to get rough for the riders. They aren't flying jets, these things are closing with each other.
The fact he even allowed Meleys to get the grab it did on Sunfyre was a fricking failure considering he had Vaghar as support
Again, it was 2 against 1. He was completely and utterly outskilled
Because he's a shitter.
>if you can't fight the heckin lizards well you shouldn't be king! King means u fight lizard good! Who cares about subordinates taking care of that!
>The fact he even allowed Meleys to get the grab it did on Sunfyre was a fricking failure considering he had Vaghar as support
Meleys is described as the fastest, swiftest dragon alive and Rhaenys is a dragon rider with decades of experience.
If anything it's a miracle he survived.
If I recall correctly Rhaenyra didn't survive her battle with one dragon.
>Meleys is described as the fastest, swiftest dragon alive and Rhaenys is a dragon rider with decades of experience.
Yes, and Sunfyre had the backup of the largest, oldest and most battle tested dragon in the world at the time.
And he still got wrecked.
I see someone forgot who won that battle in the end.
Sunfyre won and ate Rhaenyra
Rhaenys and Meleys died
I wonder what Sunfyre's Rhaenyra shits were like
What were Rhaenyra’s shits like?
they say every stool was looser than the one that came before, like her claim to the throne
so she was in a constant state of diarrhea?
Did she even survive to shit her out?
>based Rhaenys and Meleys die in glorious combat
>Sunfyre huddles along, his biggest accomplishment is eating a defenseless half crazed fat lady, and then he gets wrecked by a juvenile ridden by a teenager
>his rider gets poisoned in his sleep
Truly the Conquerer's namesake
>half crazed fat lady
Well you finally got Rhaenyra right
He put an end to an evil worse than Maegor the Cruel so yeh he did more than most.
>But it would have been legitimate
So you agree that in principle Aegon II was legitimate, you just disagree on the methods?
It would have saved the usurper Rhaenyra from being eaten alive by Aegon the Based's dragon, so that would have been indeed fair.
I don't agree either of them are legitimate
Rhaenys is the true queen
But failing that, I would say Rhaenyra's claim is better based on the most recent history. Aegon still had a claim as well however, and deserved to have it put forth. Just not in the way he did it yes.
>I don't agree either of them are legitimate
>Rhaenys is the true queen
>But failing that, I would say Rhaenyra's claim is better based on the most recent history.
Careful anon, your posts are bordering on schizo territory.
And the most recent history favored Aegon II.
The most recent history was the entire realm swearing to uphold Viserys request.
Again, like I said, it's irrelevant. They both had a claim. If you put me in a situation where I choose I'd declare for Rhaenyra because either myself or my father would have swore to uphold that. A man's word means something.
But I also would have respected a great council's decision to crown Aegon.
>The most recent history was the entire realm swearing to uphold Viserys request.
It was the Great Council upholding male succession. Viserys' oath wasn't to the entire realm, it was some lords in it and the oath didn't preclude a male heir. Plus the oath - if taken to the absurd conclusion of leaving out Aegon II after he was born - was in contravention of inheritance law practiced throughout the realm.
You're welcome to your choice but you don't need to rant so bizarrely about it. If you don't care about legitimacy or right or whatever just stop bringing them up.
>the oath didn't preclude a male heir
Again, if they were worried about that, they shouldn't have sworn
>it wasn't the entire realm
All the great houses were present for it.
>rant so bizarrely
Nothing bizzare about supporting the right side.
>Again, if they were worried about that, they shouldn't have sworn
Viserys had dragons and had tortured men for less
>All the great houses were present for it.
yes, not the entire realm
>Nothing bizzare about supporting the right side
well, the losing side, but this does scream schizo:
>I don't agree either of them are legitimate
>Rhaenys is the true queen
>But failing that, I would say Rhaenyra's claim is better
She's not legitimate, but she's the true queen, but failing that her claim is better
I'm fetching a maester for you, anon.
>fetching a maester
You're out of arguments so getting one of the old c**ts to poison me. Typical homosexual behavior
>An oath against thousands of years of law, and one that never forswore them from adopting a real heir under the laws of the land.
>You may as well argue that Jon Arryn should have given Robert and Ned to Aerys II because he commanded it, even if it broke every law.
Blackedgays won't touch this lol
>Maybe Aegon should stop being such a mommy's boy and bend over for Alicent if he doesn't want to be seen as the king that got played by the Hightower scum
That mommy's boy fed your fat prostitute to his pet gecko frickboi
>Hightower scum
what makes them scum? they outlasted the velaryons and targaryens, they seem smart
>She had every right to the throne.
until aegon II was born
>That's how oaths work
According to what? The men who swore it did so with no male heir alternative, nothing saying they couldn't recognize a male heir as under the law of their kingdoms, and most of them were dead anyway by the time Viserys died and their heirs not bound to the oath.
>she got usurped
Can't get usurped of something you didn't have a right to.
>All the high houses swore themselves to her as the heir, and Viserys never rescinded that.
The majority of the people who swore oaths 24 years ago were dead, so that's not valid.
Oaths carry from father to child.
>King's and lords don't get to choose their heir in westeros.
Then the lords shouldn't have bowed to Rhaenyra. But they did.
>take that shit to the Hungry Wolf's grave
He did absolutely nothing wrong. Frick the Andals, frick the Seven.
>Then the lords shouldn't have bowed to Rhaenyra. But they did.
I accept your defeat simp.
>Oaths carry from father to child.
nope, that's why they have to renew their oaths
they make a point of this in the books, that a child is not bound to the oaths of their father and Tyland Lannister outright fricking says this during the war
Also the Reeds renew their oaths to the Starks when they show up in the books.
>Then the lords shouldn't have bowed to Rhaenyra. But they did.
No they didn't, they bowed to Viserys and Rhaenyra was eaten by a dragon after her brother beat her in the war.
The Greens, since by all the laws of the realm Rhaenyra was a usurper:
>"It has always been so. I am not . . . I am not a cruel man, Ser Davos. You know me. Have known me long. This is not my decree. It has always been so, since Aegon's day and before. Daemon Blackfyre, the brothers Toyne, the Vulture King, Grand Maester Hareth . . . traitors have always paid with their lives . . . even Rhaenyra Targaryen. She was daughter to one king and mother to two more, yet she died a traitor's death for trying to usurp her brother's crown. It is law. Law, Davos. Not cruelty."
what laws
Meilsandre not being hot in the show was a crime.
While I believe Rhaenyra's claim was best, there is a note to be made. The Valyrians, from what we can tell, are a primogeniture society. Aegon I was the middle child after all.
So Aegon II was the rightful king.
tfw you realize Stannis is the last trueborn descendent of Aegon V other than Dany and possibly Jon
What was Catelyn thinking?
She wasn't. That's the point.
I don't think Catelyn ever thought about anything in her entire life. Hoster really knew how to make the crazies, I'm surprised Edmure turned out so well
>How feminist/girl power slay is this show gonna be?
Zero. In the end, the rich white man wins and feeds the feminist c**t to his dragon in front of her last surviving son. The show-only reactions will be glorious.
Well Reddit favours the Blacks so I think I'll side with the Greens
Dropping in to remind the redditors(blacks) here that only Dorne has equal inheritance and even then only post Nymeria.
Dead men saying Rhaenyra is heir doesn't make her heir.
>mun redditors
Can't wait for Aegon to be portrayed as an effeminate gay while the blacks have Chad Daemon.
>Turns out fans like Sigma aemond more
Calling it
Honestly Aemond is the second biggest Chad after Daemon so I don't doubt it
But Aegon's definitely gonna be a prissy gay. They already set it up by having Sunfyre be the most beautiful dragon that gets progressively more and more shat on.
And Alicent will definitely be the real leader of the greens as well, they wouldn't pass up the chance of having another Olenna type character.
Daemon looks like a troony in this show so I doubt it.
they are making another show?
lmao who gives a frick
Black supporters, let me ask you this since you think oaths override law.
Had the king gotten the lords to pledge to support Mushroom as the next king, do you think that would be a good basis for him claiming the throne when the time comes?
Mushroom can't be chosen as an heir, he's not one of Viserys' children, not a Targ and not a dragonrider. Get a better example.
No I don't think I will. He's who the king chooses. Your answer? The oath is all that matters right? :v
You're incurring in the slippery slope fallacy and the strawman fallacy at the same time. Get a better example or bust.
>Get a better example or bust.
This man is dishonering his oath. Sad!
Ad hominem now. That's three strikes, you lose.
>u lose
Like your prostitute when Sunfyre digested her
Like your crippled mommy's boy when he got poisoned and dethroned by Rhaenyra's son.
Couldn't even hatch eggs. Cope.
That was the maesters.
And who do you think traumatized him into hating dragons? That dumb cripple gaygon.
>That dumb cripple gaygon
Nomnomnom
Is that the sound of him ingesting the poison of his own allies? lmao
>That was the maesters.
lol ok Aegon Dragonbane
sounds like Aegon II won after all
Yeah Aegon II really won by dying just after victory, horribly crippled and in constant pain
Worked for Admiral Nelson, Trafalagar still happened, Rhaenyra still got eaten and lost.
Then Aegon Dragonbane killed all the dragons since Aegon II was living rent-free in his head lol
Very good, Aegon III... however!
>by Rhaenyra's son
>kills all the dragons and dooms house Targaryen
jej
No because that's a moronic example
Greengays are high on Alicent's c**t fumes and can't come up with good arguments anymore
>a moronic example
Why? That's who the king chooses so respect it pleb. After all, oaths matter more than blood i am told.
>oaths matter more than blood i am told
Yeah, by the voices in your head, schizo.
When both candidates have the blood right, then oath > no oath. It's not rocket science.
She didn't have the blood right. She is a woman and Aegon is a man. Keep coping tho. Great Council says hi
>oath
Most of the ones who swore the oaths were dead and the oath wasn't renewed, as Tyland Lannister pointed out
So we fall back on thousands of years of law and the precedent the Great Council set
Yes, anon, the Greens are behind everything. The successful Hightowers are to blame, and the Velaryons are good boys, dey dindu nuffin wrong.
Now have some of this potion and calm your nerves.
Reminder that Aegon I should have burned Oldtown to the frick ground
It would have spared his family generations of grief.
"No."
Blacks fear reading in general
He should have genocided the ironborn if anything
Why would anyone watch this show?
Did you not learn your lesson?
Well, I have to watch something, right? Might as well be this, though I will not if bores me.
Something tv-show should never do is bore you, as its entertainment. Season 8 of GOT actually bored me, rather than shock.
Do you ever get tired of having this mindset op? If I thought about stuff Luke this with every show/movie I'd literally kill myself
Blacks fear this tome
Why is Rhaenys dumpy and fat in the show when in canon she is described as an Olympian level athlete basically even at grandma age
More importantly, why is nobody complaining that they changed her appearance? Rhaenys is half Baratheon, and the seed is strong.
Jocelyn her mother was a Velaryon from her mother's side so it was probably just overload of valyrian genes
The seed is fricking strong
Dunno what to tell you
Though that raises another question
Is the seed strong because of Orys Baratheon or because of Argella Durrandon?
idk, do Baratheons have black eyes or blue eyes? That's how you know.
I don't know. I always assume blue eyes because they are the best aesthetic for black hair, but I honestly have no idea.
Yeah it's blue eyes. So, the Durrandon seed is the one that's strong.
So are they just going to ignore the arc about whether Rhaenyra's kids are legitimate or not? Her husband is half black, so it should be pretty easy to tell if her kids are also part black or fully white in this setup.
Obviously they'll ignore it.
It would make her look bad while in an interracial relationship.
If her husband was white they'd include the arc but justify it for her.
Nothing changes, It's still gonna be about the hair. Both parents have silver hair, but the kids will come out having brown hair.
Even in the books it was obvious because they looked a lot like their actual dad.
Well yes but there was still a hint of plausible deniability. If her kids come out looking like pasty aryans with no african features it's gonna be a harder sell then even in Canon.
They wont specifically state it's the lack of blackness but they'll definitely say they look nothing like their father.
imagine marrying a Baratheon princess
Imagine what Shireen would have looked like after puberty
Will there be any R'hllor Hungers moments?
You mean characters getting completely assassinated in their intent?
Cole and Aegon will definitely be portrayed in the worst possible way, Cole especially.
Anything less than an 8/10 on the grrlpower scale is considered misogyny.
I would say 5. But it won't be 5 throughout. It will be 10 and then 0. Because muh extremism.
Gyldayn has had enough
>that Addam
;_;7
Loyal!