The scariest part to me was when they saw the minutemen on their way to the Soviet Union. The thought of having 15-30min to contemplate what is coming would be pretty surreal.
I keep a bottle of Jack Daniel's just for this. If I'm about to get nuked, I'd like to be a little numb to it at least.
What will you do with your last 30 min, Cinemaphile?
I live right next to a nuclear target, so I'd just go on the bridge that overlooks the naval base, get drunk and watch the bomb fall before being evaporated.
Yep, my city will be wiped off the map as well, so I'd probably do the same. I've often wondered, though...assuming we did have an unimpeded view, how likely is it that we'd see the incoming missile before it detonated above the city? Would it be too small or too fast? Would the missile trail be visible? I'd kinda like some visual cue so that I could at least mentally prepare myself vs. blindly waiting in a cold sweat.
I'm sure it would depend completely on your actual location in the city, proximity to the impact point, and what direction it was coming from, plus maybe weather/atmospheric conditions, but my guess is you MIGHT have a second of comprehension before you go blind but it's unlikely.
Pretty sure once the missile trail stops long before it gets to its target, and most intercontentinental nukes are airburst since it maximizes damage. So it'd basically be a warhead shooting in at super sonic speed then detonating 1000 ft off the ground so no you probably wouldn't see anything but the flash
This only proves my point. If there's a legit national alert, 90% of the population would not see it in time, think it's a false alarm, or would be spending that time writing fanfic about their sister
Something I think about, as someone who lives in a city that would be vaporized multiple times over (DC), is how in almost all nuclear war fiction, the missiles start flying in the middle of the day with enough time for the civilian population to at least briefly know what was coming. What if it happened in the middle of the night? There's that new national emergency thing that's unblockable and gets pushed to your phone automatically, but that would give you a handful of minutes tops.
There's an almost zero chance there would be a launch without some kind of prelude, like days or weeks of an intense military buildup on both sides.
One thing that would be a pretty good indicator things were close to getting hot would be if military aircraft started relocating to civilian airports (away from primary targets). The only time that's ever happened was during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
True, but the actual "missiles are in the air" warning would be maybe 20 minutes for most of the population. And the longer the buildup that actually gets to "oh shit his is going to happen" levels would be long enough to completely strangle highways/interstates/escape routes
I've thought about that too, and about how in pretty much every American nuclear war movie the Soviets got it in the middle of the night.
There's an almost zero chance there would be a launch without some kind of prelude, like days or weeks of an intense military buildup on both sides.
One thing that would be a pretty good indicator things were close to getting hot would be if military aircraft started relocating to civilian airports (away from primary targets). The only time that's ever happened was during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Unless it was an accidental launch. Which is probably the most likely scenario as it's happened at least a half dozen times whereas a deliberate military buildup has only really gone that far once. Also the fact that even most politicians aren't crazy enough to start a nuclear war but they would definitely retaliate if they thought the other guy started it.
>Also the fact that even most politicians aren't crazy enough
Times have changed homeslice, killing billions is now a part of the plan. the last part of the plan.
>the 1968 incident where NORAD mistook the moon rising over Scandinavia for a massive ICBM launch and only held off on a retaliation because Khrushchev was in NYC and they figured the Soviets wouldn't nuke their own leader >two incidents in the late 1970s where a two-cent part in NORAD's computers falsely detected a Soviet launch >the 1983 Archer Able exercise where NATO held massive wargames in Germany without telling the Soviets ahead of time and the latter had their bombers on the runway before they realized it wasn't a real invasion >the incident in the late 80s where Soviet radar mistook sunlight glinting of the clouds for an American attack and only held off on a counterattack because the guy in charge said 'frick it, it's probably not real' >the incident in 1995 when the Russians mistook a Norwegian rocket launch for an American attack and Yeltsin actually had the nuclear football before they realized the mistake
Those are just the ones we know about so there are probably more. There was also the time a US base mistook a bear for an intruder and almost caused a nuclear attack, but that happened against the backdrop of the Cuban Missile Crisis when tensions were already high.
>the 1983 Archer Able exercise where NATO held massive wargames in Germany without telling the Soviets ahead of time and the latter had their bombers on the runway before they realized it wasn't a real invasion >the incident in the late 80s where Soviet radar mistook sunlight glinting of the clouds for an American attack and only held off on a counterattack because the guy in charge said 'frick it, it's probably not real'
These two were the same thing and none of those were accidental launches
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Near accidental launches. Maybe I wasn't clear. And those were two separate incidents although they did both occur in 1983 - I thought the other one was later.
The Day After has the best pre-nuke scenes of any film imo. Not many other movies capture that haunting image of what it would be like to see the nukes shooting off and knowing that the next couple minutes could mean certain death.
The airplane scene was some of the toppest kino ever. The way the major general is cool as a cucumber while authorizing the launch. Plus the camera zooming out and sirens getting more quiet as the Kansas City bomb goes off. Also the scene when the guy is trying to get to the phone booth and the guy in front of him is trying to somehow contact his two boys who went camping - the fear and desperation from such a minor role is a tear jerker every time as is the farmer's wife breaking down in panic and tears. One of my all-time 10/10 movies. The post bomb part is OK too but not as kino. It's way more realistic imo than stuff like Threads or Wargame - in a SHTF scenario people wouldn't act like headless chickens but would really to whatever authority there was and impose brutal martial law, like it's depicted in The Day After, when after a week or so, military is firmly in control, looters and thiefs are executed by firing squads in a public execution and so on, farmers are pressed into service to replant food crops and so on. I imagine this is what would happen following an actual nuclear war.
>The way the major general is cool as a cucumber while authorizing the launch.
Those scenes with the SAC General on Looking Glass were actually from a different movie, and that was a real general. They bought the rights and edited it into this one.
That documentary was for nothing because between fricking Carter delaying MX and Reagan waffling on a basing mode the USAF never did get a restored secure ICBM leg.
>On the Beach >Threads >Dead Man's Letters >One World or None
Anon The Day After is fun to use to chill-out and watch with a bag of popcorn, but it isn't really that unsettling. Society is holding it together, Americans are coming together to support each other to rebuild the nation, and the future looks rough but after a few harvest seasons life will be back to normal.
On The Beach is bullshit though and Threads is sketchy at best. You could also make a nuclear war appear more grim by having it release demons or something but it would just be fantasy at that point.
Idk, I thought it was good, but I think that it focuses too much on the negative, like most nuclear war movies of this type it leans into misery porn. It is a nuclear war, of course it would be horrible, but when depicting it in a film there is a difference between featuring misery and focusing on it. There are so many other aspects of the nature of nuclear war that could be explored, the bizarre and the surreal, but it only ever focuses on the misery.
>anti war commie garbage just like threads muh fake nuclear winter muh Armageddon. All soviet subversion and doomer lies. Nuke Russia.
This, unironically
Give me some certified nuke kinos.
I've already watched
Failsafe
Miracle mile
Threads
Testament
The day after
On the beach (old one, it sucks, more about wine aunt's love triangles than nuclear apocalypse)
Dead man's letters (too obscure or Im too low iq to understand)
The quiet earth (not really about nukes, but has the same vibe)
Thanks anon. I always found nuclear and atomic weapons/apocalypse strangely fascinating. Somitmes I have dreams about them and these are not nightmares really, but the most pleasant dreams I have. That warm and comfy feeling I have when being evaporated by the nuclear explosion, the sweet release of earthly life.
>damn dude you can use nuclear energy to make weapons, it doesnt just lessen our dependence on FOSSIL FUELS >guess we should ban it
why not just ban fire? sure you can cook and stuff but it can hurt people, so it should be BANNED. NOW.
>In the Great Lakes region with family in the most remote parts
I hope normies never figure out the best SHTF (natural or manmade) in the entire country
Keep in mind that this is extremely outdated: The strategic bomber base in Plattsburgh, NY (NE part of the state, across the lake from Vermont) closed in 1995 and there's nothing else remotely close to that currently.
I've seen with my own 2 eyes that the Plattsburgh base is gone, and unless there's some silos or hidden B-52s in Burlington I don't know about, it's at least inaccurate
I've seen with my own 2 eyes that the Plattsburgh base is gone, and unless there's some silos or hidden B-52s in Burlington I don't know about, it's at least inaccurate
Map was probably made from FEMA maps that were made in the 90s or before
Couple years back I was reading a forum thread and some anon chimed in with a single comment, basically implying that he had some high-level military background and if we knew some of the tech the US govt actually had, we'd never lose another night's sleep over the subject again.
Now, I'm not naive, and I know people larp all the time. But there was something authentic and credible in that post (wish I'd saved it) in the few details they did provide, as well as the fact that the poster's writing style wasn't that of your average basement-dwelling larper looking for attention.
So I choose to believe it was legit, even if is pure cope (as is most likely). We all have to find ways to make it from one day to the next, and this is mine.
Bros, am I fricked in a nuclear war?
I live in a really important city for the Brazilian Air Force and there's a lot of aerospace/missiles factories and a big Air Force base in my city.
I hope that South America stays out of this crap.
Maybe Australians and Kiwis also have a chance.
Depending on the size of the exchange and the month it occurs you could be facing mass starvation due to the lack of sunlight causing poor crop yields. That military base will become more a threat to you because of your proximity to a hyper militarized state rather than being nuked by a stray Russian missile.
Uhh “happy” 40th anniversary? Well this TV movie was anything but happy, first discovered this film through the bombing scene on YouTube back during the Wild West internet era after going through a bunch of sci-fi horror and monster movies and this was part of the compilation. I laughed, the effects looked dated and the idea was to me silly, now I get this television movie’s context quite better on the history of the Cold War and how back then things were different.
now americans bleed out of their butts for totally different reasons
The scariest part to me was when they saw the minutemen on their way to the Soviet Union. The thought of having 15-30min to contemplate what is coming would be pretty surreal.
I keep a bottle of Jack Daniel's just for this. If I'm about to get nuked, I'd like to be a little numb to it at least.
What will you do with your last 30 min, Cinemaphile?
I live right next to a nuclear target, so I'd just go on the bridge that overlooks the naval base, get drunk and watch the bomb fall before being evaporated.
except the bomb doesn't explode and you're forced to deal with the fallout of other bombs that did. Then your dick drops.
Do you live in Orange County?
no nuke targets, no bridges
>coronadobro
coulve been talking about honolulu, bremerton
lots of nuke bridges out there
There is a bridge right next to the naval base in Seal Beach.
you can't fool a fellow SDgay, coronado bridge truly overlooks the naval base.
Yep, my city will be wiped off the map as well, so I'd probably do the same. I've often wondered, though...assuming we did have an unimpeded view, how likely is it that we'd see the incoming missile before it detonated above the city? Would it be too small or too fast? Would the missile trail be visible? I'd kinda like some visual cue so that I could at least mentally prepare myself vs. blindly waiting in a cold sweat.
I'm sure it would depend completely on your actual location in the city, proximity to the impact point, and what direction it was coming from, plus maybe weather/atmospheric conditions, but my guess is you MIGHT have a second of comprehension before you go blind but it's unlikely.
Pretty sure once the missile trail stops long before it gets to its target, and most intercontentinental nukes are airburst since it maximizes damage. So it'd basically be a warhead shooting in at super sonic speed then detonating 1000 ft off the ground so no you probably wouldn't see anything but the flash
based coronadobro, I'll be right there with you
>Jack Daniel's
well sure, but why not drink actual whiskey instead?
kino
This only proves my point. If there's a legit national alert, 90% of the population would not see it in time, think it's a false alarm, or would be spending that time writing fanfic about their sister
>What will you do with your last 30 min, Cinemaphile?
I'm in one of those areas where all the nukes will hit because this is missile silo country.
Business as usual.
Something I think about, as someone who lives in a city that would be vaporized multiple times over (DC), is how in almost all nuclear war fiction, the missiles start flying in the middle of the day with enough time for the civilian population to at least briefly know what was coming. What if it happened in the middle of the night? There's that new national emergency thing that's unblockable and gets pushed to your phone automatically, but that would give you a handful of minutes tops.
There's an almost zero chance there would be a launch without some kind of prelude, like days or weeks of an intense military buildup on both sides.
One thing that would be a pretty good indicator things were close to getting hot would be if military aircraft started relocating to civilian airports (away from primary targets). The only time that's ever happened was during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
True, but the actual "missiles are in the air" warning would be maybe 20 minutes for most of the population. And the longer the buildup that actually gets to "oh shit his is going to happen" levels would be long enough to completely strangle highways/interstates/escape routes
I've thought about that too, and about how in pretty much every American nuclear war movie the Soviets got it in the middle of the night.
Unless it was an accidental launch. Which is probably the most likely scenario as it's happened at least a half dozen times whereas a deliberate military buildup has only really gone that far once. Also the fact that even most politicians aren't crazy enough to start a nuclear war but they would definitely retaliate if they thought the other guy started it.
>Also the fact that even most politicians aren't crazy enough
Times have changed homeslice, killing billions is now a part of the plan. the last part of the plan.
>Which is probably the most likely scenario as it's happened at least a half dozen times
What
>the 1968 incident where NORAD mistook the moon rising over Scandinavia for a massive ICBM launch and only held off on a retaliation because Khrushchev was in NYC and they figured the Soviets wouldn't nuke their own leader
>two incidents in the late 1970s where a two-cent part in NORAD's computers falsely detected a Soviet launch
>the 1983 Archer Able exercise where NATO held massive wargames in Germany without telling the Soviets ahead of time and the latter had their bombers on the runway before they realized it wasn't a real invasion
>the incident in the late 80s where Soviet radar mistook sunlight glinting of the clouds for an American attack and only held off on a counterattack because the guy in charge said 'frick it, it's probably not real'
>the incident in 1995 when the Russians mistook a Norwegian rocket launch for an American attack and Yeltsin actually had the nuclear football before they realized the mistake
Those are just the ones we know about so there are probably more. There was also the time a US base mistook a bear for an intruder and almost caused a nuclear attack, but that happened against the backdrop of the Cuban Missile Crisis when tensions were already high.
>the 1983 Archer Able exercise where NATO held massive wargames in Germany without telling the Soviets ahead of time and the latter had their bombers on the runway before they realized it wasn't a real invasion
>the incident in the late 80s where Soviet radar mistook sunlight glinting of the clouds for an American attack and only held off on a counterattack because the guy in charge said 'frick it, it's probably not real'
These two were the same thing and none of those were accidental launches
Near accidental launches. Maybe I wasn't clear. And those were two separate incidents although they did both occur in 1983 - I thought the other one was later.
I'm just not worried about it
>30 min
Hypersonic missiles can reach the US in under 15 minutes now. But you don’t gotta worry unless you live in a major city.
The Day After has the best pre-nuke scenes of any film imo. Not many other movies capture that haunting image of what it would be like to see the nukes shooting off and knowing that the next couple minutes could mean certain death.
depends on time and day for me
I will be personally targeted by at least a dozen warheads so i'mma just chill.
>i'mma
shut the frick up
The airplane scene was some of the toppest kino ever. The way the major general is cool as a cucumber while authorizing the launch. Plus the camera zooming out and sirens getting more quiet as the Kansas City bomb goes off. Also the scene when the guy is trying to get to the phone booth and the guy in front of him is trying to somehow contact his two boys who went camping - the fear and desperation from such a minor role is a tear jerker every time as is the farmer's wife breaking down in panic and tears. One of my all-time 10/10 movies. The post bomb part is OK too but not as kino. It's way more realistic imo than stuff like Threads or Wargame - in a SHTF scenario people wouldn't act like headless chickens but would really to whatever authority there was and impose brutal martial law, like it's depicted in The Day After, when after a week or so, military is firmly in control, looters and thiefs are executed by firing squads in a public execution and so on, farmers are pressed into service to replant food crops and so on. I imagine this is what would happen following an actual nuclear war.
The church scene was also great.
>The way the major general is cool as a cucumber while authorizing the launch.
Those scenes with the SAC General on Looking Glass were actually from a different movie, and that was a real general. They bought the rights and edited it into this one.
I know. They used a ton of USAAF footage and just edited it in the movie. It works great though.
They're from a documentary called First Strike that featured real USAF personnel/facilities
That documentary was for nothing because between fricking Carter delaying MX and Reagan waffling on a basing mode the USAF never did get a restored secure ICBM leg.
They tried
This is definitely one of the better nuclear war scare movies.
Nukes aren't real. The War Game 8s kino though.
Back when we thought of russia as and unstoppable juggernaut with unlimited resources and military budget
This movie gave me an obsession with nukes at an early age. When I imagine dying, it's always in a nuclear war.
I always mix up this and Testament which made around same time.
Testament is good too, less war centered and more about people that lived away from the blast zones.
The scene where they are sorting though medical supplies and the doctor won't believe that there are mass extra-judicial killings is comedy gold.
Its the most kino nuclear war film ever made. No happy ending, nothing cheerful in it, just sorrow. Just like a real nuclear war
>Its the most kino nuclear war film ever made
pleb
>Just like a real nuclear war
lmfao
>On the Beach
>Threads
>Dead Man's Letters
>One World or None
Anon The Day After is fun to use to chill-out and watch with a bag of popcorn, but it isn't really that unsettling. Society is holding it together, Americans are coming together to support each other to rebuild the nation, and the future looks rough but after a few harvest seasons life will be back to normal.
On The Beach is bullshit though and Threads is sketchy at best. You could also make a nuclear war appear more grim by having it release demons or something but it would just be fantasy at that point.
On the Beach had me cranking to Ava Gardner for years
Idk, I thought it was good, but I think that it focuses too much on the negative, like most nuclear war movies of this type it leans into misery porn. It is a nuclear war, of course it would be horrible, but when depicting it in a film there is a difference between featuring misery and focusing on it. There are so many other aspects of the nature of nuclear war that could be explored, the bizarre and the surreal, but it only ever focuses on the misery.
Why wouldn't that little homosexual Danny just not look at it?
anti war commie garbage just like threads muh fake nuclear winter muh Armageddon. All soviet subversion and doomer lies. Nuke Russia.
>anti war commie garbage just like threads muh fake nuclear winter muh Armageddon. All soviet subversion and doomer lies. Nuke Russia.
This, unironically
Being anti-russian is a liberal position now
One of the only movies filmed close to where I live
Best nuclear war movie imo
this was when the American media thought peace with Russia was a good idea instead of treason.
Give me some certified nuke kinos.
I've already watched
Failsafe
Miracle mile
Threads
Testament
The day after
On the beach (old one, it sucks, more about wine aunt's love triangles than nuclear apocalypse)
Dead man's letters (too obscure or Im too low iq to understand)
The quiet earth (not really about nukes, but has the same vibe)
I assume if you've seen Fail-Safe you've already watched Dr. Strangelove
Honorable mention: Trinity and beyond. It's a documentary kino.
Yeah
Panic in Year Zero
Thanks anon. I always found nuclear and atomic weapons/apocalypse strangely fascinating. Somitmes I have dreams about them and these are not nightmares really, but the most pleasant dreams I have. That warm and comfy feeling I have when being evaporated by the nuclear explosion, the sweet release of earthly life.
The War Game is K I N O
The Atomic Cafe
>The Atomic Cafe
I fricking love that one
>Miracle Mile
great flick tbh
It starts out boring as frick and just keeps getting stranger and stranger.
Miracle Mile is fricking great and does not get the attention it deserves.
O-bi, o-ba. The End of Civilisation is decent kino.
Szulkin is based
Krystyna Janda is so hot it is a sin.
Not a movie but this song is pretty good:
>damn dude you can use nuclear energy to make weapons, it doesnt just lessen our dependence on FOSSIL FUELS
>guess we should ban it
why not just ban fire? sure you can cook and stuff but it can hurt people, so it should be BANNED. NOW.
Would you survive Cinemaphile?
>In the Great Lakes region with family in the most remote parts
I hope normies never figure out the best SHTF (natural or manmade) in the entire country
500/2000 nope
Keep in mind that this is extremely outdated: The strategic bomber base in Plattsburgh, NY (NE part of the state, across the lake from Vermont) closed in 1995 and there's nothing else remotely close to that currently.
That map is from 2017…
I've seen with my own 2 eyes that the Plattsburgh base is gone, and unless there's some silos or hidden B-52s in Burlington I don't know about, it's at least inaccurate
Map was probably made from FEMA maps that were made in the 90s or before
>Keep in mind that this is extremely outdated:
So is russian intelligence so.....give it 50/50 they nuke a closed base.
Okay yeah I'll admit that
I live in a suburb of Charlotte so nope.
>always ignored this pic because who gives a frick about my town
>only now just noticed there's a big purple triangle on my whole county
Well shit.
Eastern NC here I would be surrounded and slowly killed by Nuclear fallout
>even the russians forgot the UP is part of the USA
>chicago
homie im already dead
>Chicago
So a nuclear war would likely reduce your exposure to ballistics.
Was good enough
Atom Bombs aren't real
Couple years back I was reading a forum thread and some anon chimed in with a single comment, basically implying that he had some high-level military background and if we knew some of the tech the US govt actually had, we'd never lose another night's sleep over the subject again.
Now, I'm not naive, and I know people larp all the time. But there was something authentic and credible in that post (wish I'd saved it) in the few details they did provide, as well as the fact that the poster's writing style wasn't that of your average basement-dwelling larper looking for attention.
So I choose to believe it was legit, even if is pure cope (as is most likely). We all have to find ways to make it from one day to the next, and this is mine.
lasers
Bros, am I fricked in a nuclear war?
I live in a really important city for the Brazilian Air Force and there's a lot of aerospace/missiles factories and a big Air Force base in my city.
I hope that South America stays out of this crap.
Maybe Australians and Kiwis also have a chance.
No one in South America has nukes, you'll be fine unless someone just feels like being a dick for no reason
You're not white. Who cares
Neither are the Chinese, Indians, Pakis, Israelis, Norks or the Russians (that depends on your ideology)
Glad we agree.
Bro, have you seen the demographics of the US, France and the UK?
Imagine how they will be in the next 10-20 years.
Frick, I can't even say you're wrong.
Depending on the size of the exchange and the month it occurs you could be facing mass starvation due to the lack of sunlight causing poor crop yields. That military base will become more a threat to you because of your proximity to a hyper militarized state rather than being nuked by a stray Russian missile.
Ain't you one of them BRICS, you are the first letter kek
Yes, to answer your question. In the advent of WW3, you would be fricked.
Uhh “happy” 40th anniversary? Well this TV movie was anything but happy, first discovered this film through the bombing scene on YouTube back during the Wild West internet era after going through a bunch of sci-fi horror and monster movies and this was part of the compilation. I laughed, the effects looked dated and the idea was to me silly, now I get this television movie’s context quite better on the history of the Cold War and how back then things were different.
you kids have "climate catastrophe"
we had thermonuclear exchange
settle down. it's all gonna be ok