>Kara S. Hultgreen[1] (October 5, 1965 – October 25, 1994) was an American naval aviator who served as a lieutenant in the United States Navy and was the first female carrier-based fighter pilot in the U.S. Navy. She was also the first female fighter pilot in the U.S. military to die in a crash.[2] She died just months after she was certified for combat, when she crashed her F-14 Tomcat into the sea on final approach to USS Abraham Lincoln.
That picture is funny, because women consider themsrlves to be a monolith
'As a woman' is bog standard talking point all across the globe. 'As a man' doesn't exist and only ones saying it are dregs of society barking on the internet.
Women drive 30% less yet have 45-62% fewer fatal collisions than men. Curious!
1 week ago
Anonymous
>On average
Is that mean or median? Does that count commercial vehicle operators?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>use statistics >NO NOT LIKE THAT >NO NOT LIKE THAT EITHER >NO NOT LIKE THIS EITHER >WELL WHAT ABOUT COMMERCIAL VEHICLES...
oof all this hedge betting, Ahmed.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I guarantee they're counting commercial accidents when they talk about men dying in car accidents. The leading cause of work place deaths in the USA is automobile accidents after all. Interestingly, men are 10x more likely to die in a workplace accident than women despite making up roughly equal portions of the labor force.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>I just feel the statistics are wrong because I felt it in my mind
That's not an argument. >Interestingly, men are 10x more likely to die in a workplace accident than women despite making up roughly equal portions of the labor force.
And that has to do with frick all, because...?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>I just feel the statistics are wrong because I felt it in my mind
That's not an argument. >Interestingly, men are 10x more likely to die in a workplace accident than women despite making up roughly equal portions of the labor force.
And that has to do with frick all, because...?
>Women drive 39% less yet have 45% to 62% fewer fatal collisions
Curious!
[...]
Chuds love making you play whack-a-mole. There's always a new cope
You can be an insufferable simping homosexual all you want but just because you're a moronic shut-in who never sees the real world doesn't mean everyone else is.
Those of us who have actually seen women driving know full well they have terrible spatial awareness. They're terrible at reversing, terrible at negotiating tighter spaces, and easily start fricking up and fumbling their pedals when they start to panic.
On the other hand, men are more prone to driving with excessive speed so yeah they die more.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>They're terrible at reversing, terrible at negotiating tighter spaces, and easily start fricking up and fumbling their pedals when they start to panic.
That's just because they drive less. Now normalize it to male drivers of the same experience :^)
1 week ago
Anonymous
>t. makes moronic Islamic-tier teenager statement about women drivers, the biggest meme on earth >some anon does three seconds of googling to figure out it's bullshit >homosexual goes into a seething rage over it
kek every time.
1 week ago
Anonymous
facts don't care about your feelings
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Says 30% less >Really more like 40% less(39%)
Whoa.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Women drive 39% less yet have 45% to 62% fewer fatal collisions
Curious!
>use statistics >NO NOT LIKE THAT >NO NOT LIKE THAT EITHER >NO NOT LIKE THIS EITHER >WELL WHAT ABOUT COMMERCIAL VEHICLES...
oof all this hedge betting, Ahmed.
Chuds love making you play whack-a-mole. There's always a new cope
1 week ago
Anonymous
women are worse drivers in all respects. men are just more risk taking so they do dumb shit like speed or try to pass when it’s moronic etc. and end up crashing in a million different ways. I thought everybody knew this really obvious thing. amazing how moronic city slickers people are.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>women are worse drivers but men are dumber and worse drivers on the road but uh, women are bad drivers and uhh shit I don't know
1 week ago
Anonymous
Men are more likely to drive at night and in adverse weather.
1 week ago
Anonymous
And that makes them better drivers....why?
1 week ago
Anonymous
No, that means that they're more likely to get in accidents because they work off hours and in demanding conditions.
We already said women drive 39% less miles than men but get in only 45% less accidents. When we start accounting that men will drive more miles in more hazardous conditions we can see that women aren't really safer drivers than men.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You are just extrapolating because it's cope because you are big mad about this very stupid point you keep ride or dying for. I mean, I know why you do.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Why do so many more men die in the work place than women? Is it because men are stupid or because men work more dangerous jobs?
Why is there a "wage gap?" Is it because women are being oppressed, or because they work safe and leisurely jobs that pay worse?
I feel sorry that you're such a mental midget.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Idk Ahmed, I hear this "men die in the workplace more" meme all the time but where is the source for that as a median average? And yes, it's common knowledge in the US that women on average get paid less for the same work and same experience. That's not really a hoax or a meme or a leftist conspiracy. >mental midget
just /misc/tard slop you people say.
Women are an order of magnitude less likely to die in the workplace than men despite making up roughly equal parts of the work force.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>statista >you have to pay to read it
just post an actual study you fricking moron. One that's available.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You can pull up Bureau of Labor Statistics stats yourself if you want, but it's well known fact.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You could, you are the one making the claim.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I'm done arguing with a troglodyte like yourself. If you want to pretend that men and women don't live different lives and work different jobs that have different risks, you're free to do so.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Why won't you just post it?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>it's common knowledge in the US that women on average get paid less for the same work and same experience. That's not really a hoax or a meme or a leftist conspiracy.
Women actually get paid more than men with equal experience and education.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>women actually get paid more than men with equal experience and education.
No they don't, Muhammad.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>only close to half less accidents
lol checkmate libcucks, amirite??
1 week ago
Anonymous
>men will drive more in hazardous conditions >this somehow, coupled with 45 percent less makes women worse drivers
Is your mind broken?
1 week ago
Anonymous
I'm positing that women aren't really safer drivers than men, not that they're worse drivers. Keep up, idiot.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Which is hedging your bets because you got blown the frick out. Now you are acshually'ing your point.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>women are worse drivers in all respects. >except for the respects in which men are worse
Curious
1 week ago
Anonymous
Men get in more fatal accidents because they're swerving to avoid women that are driving like reckless maniacs.
that's biased since men >are the primary drivers of every relationship >are chaffeurs, truck drivers, taxi drivers, etc >drive more since they work, barely any stay at home dads
only thing I would find disadvantageous is that men are less patient drivers and more prone to DUI, but in terms of skill and reaction they're way better
1 week ago
Anonymous
Women work and drive at the same rate as men moron. But you're right in that men are more prone to DUI and speeding which guess what are the main causes of accidents
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Women work and drive at the same rate as men moron
Russians soldiers are all male.
Have you seen the war going on
Russians are the dumbest and gayest fight force in history. There is an epidemic of gay rape inside of the Russian army and with any Ukrainians males they find
Ruskies can't even remember where they put their fricking mines out in the road and are getting blown up by their own tanks because they send out conscripts with 6 months of training to fight Ukrainians who are in a bloodlust to kill every Russian they find.
Yeah but that doesn't explain the insane gay rape fetish Russians and indians have. The war has been eye opening. Google all the investigations going on right now. Russians can't stop raping each other and filming it, indians keep watching and spreading it for money
>After adjusting for variables included in the model, accident rates of males and females were not significantly different.
you should read your link moron
Oh I recognize this article! It's the one that says females have higher rates of accidents than males but, after normalizing to years of experience, says there is so significant difference! It turns out experienced pilots are less likely to crash and there are fewer experienced female pilots because they were discriminated against up until very recently.
>women get killed in crashes far more >but the ones who manage to not kill themselves are pretty much as good as male pilots! >#science wins again, chuds!
I did. Female pilots are shit so the Onlyfans subs immediately started seething about cars lmao.
The real reason female pilots shouldn't exist is that if any is ever captured, worthless pieces of shit mixed with watery cum like you will immediately try to sabotage the entire war effort to save them.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Meds please
1 week ago
Anonymous
>limpwristed gays hooked on Zoloft, Prozac and le weed mao tell other people to take meds
1 week ago
Anonymous
Weird you went to this specific strawman.
1 week ago
Anonymous
100% of simps fall into that description.
1 week ago
Anonymous
It's funny that anyone who posts a statistic that is anything moderately the opposite of "I hate women", is a simp
You just coped versus objective reality using the clearest case of suvivorship bias I've ever seen lmao
1 week ago
Anonymous
That's...you, anon. You are literally the one doing "shut up".
1 week ago
Anonymous
I'm the one laughing at you
>w-well at 10 years experience* male and female pilots are about the same, pretty much!!!! >*all the women who crashed their planes and died did not reach 10 years' experience
the funniest thing is that the subject is literally aircraft
1 week ago
Anonymous
Someone else literally brought up how female pilots are underrepresented not because they aren't experienced pilots...but that they don't get hired. That's a verifiable fact that nobody disputes. This is like saying pre-segregation schools show that there aren't any black graduates because they weren't allowed to attend white schools.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>we need to hire more people who consistently crash billion dollar planes so that it can make simp tummies feel warm
1 week ago
Anonymous
>if I ignore the things being said the argument is whatever I want it to be
ok then
1 week ago
Anonymous
>things being said
I'd rather focus on planes being crashed.
Someone else literally brought up how female pilots are underrepresented not because they aren't experienced pilots...but that they don't get hired. That's a verifiable fact that nobody disputes. This is like saying pre-segregation schools show that there aren't any black graduates because they weren't allowed to attend white schools.
Your cucked mindset is exactly how Harward ended up with worthless Black person president who stole every work she ever published, for measly salary of 1.6 million dollars per year.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You are on the wrong board, schizo I don't even know what the frick you are talking about
1 week ago
Anonymous
>I refuse to acknowledge what you are talking about because it defies my subjective reality where women are just as good at flying planes
1 week ago
Anonymous
>We should only ever allow experienced pilots to fly because they're less likely to crash >What do you mean they're all 90 and retired and we have no more pilots?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>but that they don't get hired >the group of pilots who are most likely to crash and kill everyone aboard don't get hired
no fricking way
you're still saying the same thing.
women who crash and die don't get experience
women who crash and get injured don't get experience
women who nearly crash and correctly decide this isn't for them don't get experience
when comparing experience for experience, you are comparing the elite female pilots against the average male pilots
1 week ago
Anonymous
Whoosh, moron.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>noooooo! nooooo!
lmao
1 week ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession
1 week ago
Anonymous
>says stupid things >literally made an argument based on survivorship bias about aircraft >got laughed at by everyone >screeched in denial >i ac-ccept your c-c-c-concc-c-ession
lmao based redditor
1. at low levels of experience, women pilots are absolute disasters
2. at high levels of experience, women pilots are comparably safe as male pilots
Every woman who crashes and dies, or crashes and survives and quits, or crashes and survives but has "crashed her plane" on her record and thus is never hired, or barely graduates without crashing, does not reach high experience.
Comparing the safety record of highly-experienced women pilots to male pilots at the same level of experience is comparing the absolute elite of women pilots with the average male pilot, because all the non-elite women pilots are dead or in a career better suited to their ability.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>got laughed at by everyone
This thread has been a handful of (probably) Muslim newhomosexuals angrily whatabouting and throwing a tantrum at being wrong.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Comparing the safety record of highly-experienced women pilots to male pilots at the same level of experience is comparing the absolute elite of women pilots with the average male pilot, because all the non-elite women pilots are dead or in a career better suited to their ability.
That's literally not what anyone is saying, moron.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>n-n-n-n-nobody ee-v-v-ver s-ss-said that
Oh I recognize this article! It's the one that says females have higher rates of accidents than males but, after normalizing to years of experience, says there is so significant difference! It turns out experienced pilots are less likely to crash and there are fewer experienced female pilots because they were discriminated against up until very recently.
>It's the one that says females have higher rates of accidents than males but, after normalizing to years of experience, says there is so significant difference! It turns out experienced pilots are less likely to crash and there are fewer experienced female pilots because they were discriminated against up until very recently.
1. at low levels of experience, women pilots are absolute disasters
2. at high levels of experience, women pilots are comparably safe as male pilots
Every woman who crashes and dies, or crashes and survives and quits, or crashes and survives but has "crashed her plane" on her record and thus is never hired, or barely graduates without crashing, does not reach high experience.
Comparing the safety record of highly-experienced women pilots to male pilots at the same level of experience is comparing the absolute elite of women pilots with the average male pilot, because all the non-elite women pilots are dead or in a career better suited to their ability.
I thought stuff like "100 year old woman says she smokes a cigar and drinks a Dr. Pepper every day!" so morons start drinking Dr. Pepper and smoking cigars like it's the Elixir of Life was the funniest example of morons not understanding survivorship bias, but this is actually funnier when you consider the plane chart is what's used as a visual metaphor for the fallacy
1 week ago
Anonymous
So like, are you illiterate? I'm seriously asking
1 week ago
Anonymous
>nooooo! >don't you see? I claimed that yet another obviously inherent difference is the result of evil nebulous "discrimination!!" >you're not allowed to effortlessly disprove that!
1 week ago
Anonymous
>discrimination just doesn't happen, also I hate women and wish they were fricking dead praise be to Allah
1 week ago
Anonymous
You've done a woman's job, sir. Nice trolling throughout the thread.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>get btfo early on in the thread >"oh no I better start shitposting because I look dumb praise Allah"
1 week ago
Anonymous
>discrimination just doesn't happen
lmao there it is >well it sure looks like that's an objective fact there showing yet another inherent difference between groups >but have you considered that I've just declared it's mysterious oppression? >checkmate chud!
there is a reason we have women's sports, and even women's chess tournaments actually lol
there's a reason why
If women are superior to men then why do they always segregate themselves away from men when competing? And complain if they so much as have to compete with a troony?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Trannies are tulpa agents of the patriarchy. There are dozens, nay hundreds, of sexist men sitting in lounge chairs using their psychic powers to harm women in competitions and also mentally buck break other men into taking estrogen and use the same psychic powers to help them dominate women in water polo and weight lifting.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>discrimination doesn't happen but if it did its acshually a good thing
Imagine with a straight face, implying segregation was a good thing and it didn't actually prevent viable candidates for higher education lol imagine believing this. Imagine being a polhomosexual.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>got humiliated >now ranting about segregation
Segregation exists today. We have women's sports. We even have women's intellectual sports. This is because in both cases the top-ranked champion women would not qualify to compete with men. This is objective reality.
>>sure women crash planes way more often than men
But they don't, unless you're comparing experienced men to inexperienced women. Why would you ever consider that a legitimate comparison though?
BTW survivorship bias can't be applicable here because the vast vast vast majority of pilots never die in a plane crash. You'd realize that if you weren't an absolute statlet.
[...]
It's already been cited in this thread. L2Read
>literally the opposite of what's been known for decades.
Actually existing reality proves you wrong. >Women crash planes more often than men.
Actually existing reality proves you wrong. >At high experience levels, they crash planes about the same as men.
Correct.
>noooooooo! noooooooooooooooo!! nooooooooo!
>The researchers found that loss of control on landing or takeoff was the most common circumstance for both sexes, leading to 59 percent of female pilots1 crashes and 36 percent of males1. Experiencing mechanical failure, running out of fuel, and landing the plane with the landing gear up were among the factors more likely with males, while stalling was more likely with females.
>The majority of the crashes -- 95 percent for females and 88 percent for males -- involved at least one type of pilot error. Mishandling aircraft kinetics, such as incorrect use of the rudder, poor response to a bounce, or inability to recover from a stall, was the most common error for both sexes, but was more prevalent among females (accounting for 81 percent of the crashes) than males (accounting for 48 percent). Males, however, appeared more likely to be guilty of poor decision-making, risk-taking, and inattentiveness, examples of which include misjudging weather and visibility or flying an aircraft with a known defect.
Men tend to make mistakes of judgement - flying a plane known to be defective, riskier decisions related to weather etc. Women can't fly planes.
Anon, you literally posted an example of how if you discriminated against Kenyans, you wouldn't be able to hire the best runners...
Anon, why do the organizers of marathon races discriminate against every other people but Kenyans, and especially that one single tribe of Kenyans who dominate every elite-level competition?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>...and if it does exist, it's a good thing
there we are, the polhomosexual said the line. I don't think I've ever seriously heard of a "female chess tournament", I think you literally made that up and are backpeddling to discussing physical attribute differences in male/female sports as if that's the same thing as pretending women crash cars more because of "well they have lady parts anon duh, thats why", objective reality, as you claim to care about, actually doesnt say theres major measurable differences in intellect between men and women or that they are less capable of learning to fly airplanes or cars. That's just moronic phrenology autism rotting your brain. Nobody in this thread is even arguing that men aren't physically stronger than women either, you have to pivot because of how bootyblasted you are. I don't know what time it is in Iran, but you don't have to stay in a thread and get made fun of if you don't want to.
You polhomosexuals all argue poorly and lose everytime. I don't know why you keep doing it.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>bunch of ranting about the mean men who keep pointing out you'll never be a real woman >objective reality, as you claim to care about, actually doesnt say theres major measurable differences in intellect between men and women or that they are less capable of learning to fly airplanes or cars.
who are the champion female race car drivers
who are the men's league champion chess players
we are a sexually dimorphic species. > incorrect use of the rudder, poor response to a bounce, or inability to recover from a stall, was the most common error for both sexes, but was more prevalent among females (accounting for 81 percent of the crashes) than males (accounting for 48 percent) >loss of control on landing or takeoff was the most common circumstance for both sexes, leading to 59 percent of female pilots1 crashes and 36 percent of males1
>After controlling for years of experience, there is no statistically significant difference between male and female pilots
No shit women are more likely to crash when your male group is disproportionately safe due to massively experienced pilots. It's like saying that 16 year old women are more likely to crash cars than 50 year old men. It's an invalid comparison. When you do an actual valid comparison, there is no statistically significant difference between males and females. Only morons can't understand this despite a half dozen posts ITT explaining it.
>When you do an actual valid comparison, there is no statistically significant difference between males and female >when you introduce survivorship bias so you can compare the elite women pilots to average men pilots, it's fine!
lmao
What about that greentext are you genuinely having a hard time deciphering and digesting into your brain because I continue to think you really don't understand what it's saying.
>s-shut up >ur just s-stupid :~~*~~*~~*
"Men tend to make mistakes of judgement - flying a plane known to be defective, riskier decisions related to weather etc. Women can't fly planes."
1 week ago
Anonymous
You are just spiraling, go take a break or drink some water and get your shit together or go back to containment already
1 week ago
Anonymous
>noooo shut up!! ur stupid!!!!
lmao don't you just wish you could le downboat me or call a mod
Oh I see, it appears you got caught in a few lies and didn't think we'd notice. Where are these women's only chess tournaments, bud? Where?
>Where are these women's only chess tournaments, bud?
you... don't know that there are?
>Muhammad literally doesn't know what dimorphic is or means
It doesn't mean women are aliens from a different species with different fricking gray matter in their skulls, incel.
>troon seethes >It doesn't mean women are aliens from a different species with different fricking gray matter in their skulls
Nope, but it means on average that they are smaller, weaker, slower, and dumber than men, which you can see in literally every and any elite competition depending on strength, endurance, spatial reasoning, reflexes or intelligence.
>he continues to quote a thing that literally says the exact opposite of what he claims
This had to be bait now, right? It's astounding how often you keep greentexting a thing that says the fricking opposite of what you do.
>still can't read
1 week ago
Anonymous
>blah blah blah trannies >blah blah no you blah blah >blah blah
boring. It's boring. Where are there women's only chess tournaments you fricking moron? Show me one.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Where are there women's only chess tournaments you fricking moron? Show me one.
did you know the same device you're using to look stupid on the internet could give you the answer to that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_World_Chess_Championship
Not a single study, on earth, anywhere, makes the claim they are "dumber than men". No statistic reflects this in women, anywhere. At all. I thought you morons loved science?
>Not a single study, on earth, anywhere, makes the claim they are "dumber than men".
holy shit you literally know nothing about the subject lmao
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7604277/
>woman dumb because they no race car faster than me
is this really what /misc/ has reduced to? Or have these homosexuals just always been this stupid?
>everyone exactly same >except in every single form of competition
lmao
1 week ago
Anonymous
Did...did you not read either thing you linked or what? Are you doing a little trolling for fun?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>desperate deflection and cope
it never gets old >didn't know about WWCC >show me this "women's chess tournament" >uhhh shutup meanie :~~*(
>not a single study says men are smarter than women >Except in tests of reading comprehension, perceptual speed, and associative memory, males typically outnumber females substantially among high-scoring individuals. >uhhh shutup meanie :~~*~~*
lmao
1 week ago
Anonymous
Well for one, the FIDE's main world chess tournament isn't "men only", women compete in that, secondly you didn't actually read the study you posted. I think you frantically looked for abstracts that just study differences in cognitive ability and just posted them based on the title. The thing you posted does not make the claim (if you opened up the article, which you didn't) that wen perform worse on reading comprehension, perceptual speed and associative memory tests. It literally says the exact fricking opposite of that.
Why are you like this?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Well for one, the FIDE's main world chess tournament isn't "men only", women compete in that
oh really? where do they place usually? winners i assume
1 week ago
Anonymous
Well if you actually looked at the Wikipedia you cited, it shows all the mixed open champions, a few of them are in fact women...yeah. I accept your concession though
1 week ago
Anonymous
really?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Chess_Championships
all i see is men, in both the winner and runners up position
were you referring to amateur league or something where women can actually compete
1 week ago
Anonymous
>frantic cope
lmao remember when you said
>blah blah blah trannies >blah blah no you blah blah >blah blah
boring. It's boring. Where are there women's only chess tournaments you fricking moron? Show me one.
>Where are there women's only chess tournaments you fricking moron? Show me one.
lol >women compete in that
they must dominate, right?
oh wait, they don't. which is weird, right? how can that be
>The thing you posted does not make the claim (if you opened up the article, which you didn't) that wen perform worse on reading comprehension, perceptual speed and associative memory tests.
it says that with the exception of those, men outnumber women among high-scoring individuals. now how can that be, if everyone's equal?
Well if you actually looked at the Wikipedia you cited, it shows all the mixed open champions, a few of them are in fact women...yeah. I accept your concession though
>all the mixed open champions, a few of them are in fact women >a few >WWCC
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
1 week ago
Anonymous
>says that with the exception of those, men outnumber women among high-scoring individuals. now how can that be, if everyone's equal?
That's not the conclusion of the article, at all. Do you just hope nobody clicks the link and reads it?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Not him, but I opened it and that's what it says.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>That's not the conclusion of the article, at all. >nooooooo! if I just deny it, it goes away!
lmao
who's the top-ranked female chess player in the world? since we're all equal, and chess is a game involving zero physical strength, and women's competitive chess has been around for a century, she must at least be in the top 5.
top 10, maybe?
certainly top 30.
50?
75, for sure.
no?
1 week ago
Anonymous
So is your argument now that it doesn't matter if there are women champions in open tournaments because they have to dominate them to prove to you, some moron, that they can win chess matches too?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>women champions in open tournaments >open tournament >WWCC >champions
you don't know how chess rankings work, do you lmao
the top-ranked female chess player in the world, who's a generational phenomenon btw, is ranked #89.
really?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Chess_Championships
all i see is men, in both the winner and runners up position
were you referring to amateur league or something where women can actually compete
>were you referring to amateur league or something where women can actually compete
he is lmao
literally knows nothing about the subject and is frantically googing straws to grasp
1 week ago
Anonymous
>women are dumb because they aren't good at chess
1 week ago
Anonymous
I knew you'd finally come around.
1 week ago
Anonymous
sports competitions demonstrates men are stronger, have greater athletic ability and lateral movement
online sports competitions demonstrates men have better twitch reflexes and quick thinking
chess competitions demonstrates men have higher intelligence and better faculty for strategy and forethought
what exactly are women better at, or even equal to men at?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>what exactly are women better at, or even equal to men at?
Lying. They do it as easily as they breathe and without any guilt
1 week ago
Anonymous
>in every elite competitive situation, which is the purest evaluation of ability, objectively dumber, slower, and weaker than male counterparts >the very most elite women in almost every competitive situation would not even qualify for competition at the male's level >statistically, much worse at flying aircraft than men, which is unsurprising given the above
that's what we're talking about
I don't really know why you guys are so insistent that women can't do the stuff they can.
Why does it matter to you? If she were your wife or girlfriend, would you be telling her that she's trash and that she should never try again at her passion? Would you say it to your own mother?
Women live for the praise their men heap onto them. As a matter of face, men live for the same ends. The best thing someone can do is let the other know that they're doing great, and to try again.
>crushed on every single point >w-why do you even c-c-care about this :~~*
because it's the truth, and the truth matters.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Lmao at Socrates here thinking he's expounding on some great iteration of the truth no one has ever expressed.
I'm not even the original anon you were yelling yourself hoarse at you trog.
I'm saying, and listen to this one, that you don't have to put someone down because of their gender, just because they are doing something outside of their purview. You don't have to be a seething chud about it.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>s-shut up u meanie >stop saying all these Hate Facts :~~*(( >why do u even want to hurt peoples feelings :~~*~~*~~*~~*
if your feelings get hurt by facts, the problem isn't with facts.
1 week ago
Anonymous
lmao you are hopeless
You remind me of that israelite, the Shapiro dude
"Muh facts don't care about your feelings" shit
Kek what a loser
How many chess competitions have you won, that you've become so insistent on the supposed relativistic inferiority of women?
I don't even stand up for women, but you're pathetic by comparison.
lmao I accept your concession
you'll still never be a real woman
1 week ago
Anonymous
>I'm not even the original anon you were yelling yourself hoarse at
Oh, I know, because your kind always pops up when all the simps gets btfo on objective facts, and you start with 'but whattabout muh feefees' like a clockwork.
1 week ago
Anonymous
*women
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Where are there women's only chess tournaments you fricking moron? Show me one.
Simps are this fricking stupid, that is genuinely impressive.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Not a single study, on earth, anywhere, makes the claim they are "dumber than men". No statistic reflects this in women, anywhere. At all. I thought you morons loved science?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>woman dumb because they no race car faster than me
is this really what /misc/ has reduced to? Or have these homosexuals just always been this stupid?
1 week ago
Anonymous
Who are you talking to?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>still can't read
homie, you have greentexted a thing someone ELSE posted that blew you the frick out like 5 times, HALF A DOZEN TIMES! You looked at the written English, somehow had a brain fog and just didn't understand the words being written down in the thing.
It's remarkable really.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>nooo I said everything's discrimination! >so I win!
you will never, ever be a real woman
which is good because it means you'd likely be less incompetent at flying a plane
1 week ago
Anonymous
>trannies are in the room right now with him
Obsessed.
1 week ago
Anonymous
they're in this thread
hopefully this humiliation doesn't accelerate their eventual suicide
1 week ago
Anonymous
Do you ever think that getting to a point in your life where you imagine the suicides of imagined trannies on an image board might be a time to idk, seek help? Do you think it's normal to want people to kill themselves?
1 week ago
Anonymous
if they are troonys yes
1 week ago
Anonymous
You think it's normal behavior to want trannies to kill themselves? You don't think that abhorrent behavior?
1 week ago
Anonymous
oh its so abhorrent, I am LITERALLY shaking
1 week ago
Anonymous
but troonanon, I specifically said I hope it doesn't cause suicides
that is the opposite of wanting people to kill themselves
you keep getting things 180 degrees opposite to the truth, which I suppose is how you have convinced yourself that you've turned into a girl just by wishing real hard
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Muhammad literally doesn't know what dimorphic is or means
It doesn't mean women are aliens from a different species with different fricking gray matter in their skulls, incel.
>he continues to quote a thing that literally says the exact opposite of what he claims
This had to be bait now, right? It's astounding how often you keep greentexting a thing that says the fricking opposite of what you do.
Simpas absolutely melting. Do us all a favor and fly Boeing piloted only by women. >butbutbut if there was just as much women in planes as men, they would stop crashing planes
Lmao!
1 week ago
Anonymous
Oh I see, it appears you got caught in a few lies and didn't think we'd notice. Where are these women's only chess tournaments, bud? Where?
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Muhammad literally doesn't know what dimorphic is or means
It doesn't mean women are aliens from a different species with different fricking gray matter in their skulls, incel.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>he continues to quote a thing that literally says the exact opposite of what he claims
This had to be bait now, right? It's astounding how often you keep greentexting a thing that says the fricking opposite of what you do.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>After controlling for years of experience, there is no statistically significant difference between male and female pilots
No shit women are more likely to crash when your male group is disproportionately safe due to massively experienced pilots. It's like saying that 16 year old women are more likely to crash cars than 50 year old men. It's an invalid comparison. When you do an actual valid comparison, there is no statistically significant difference between males and females. Only morons can't understand this despite a half dozen posts ITT explaining it.
1 week ago
Anonymous
They have to be ESL Muslims I can't see anyone else failing to read this hard
1 week ago
Anonymous
What about that greentext are you genuinely having a hard time deciphering and digesting into your brain because I continue to think you really don't understand what it's saying.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Anon, you literally posted an example of how if you discriminated against Kenyans, you wouldn't be able to hire the best runners...
1 week ago
Anonymous
women have shit twitch reflexes anyway and would get rekt in a dogfight
1 week ago
Anonymous
>n-n-n-n-nobody ee-v-v-ver s-ss-said that
[...] >It's the one that says females have higher rates of accidents than males but, after normalizing to years of experience, says there is so significant difference! It turns out experienced pilots are less likely to crash and there are fewer experienced female pilots because they were discriminated against up until very recently.
1. at low levels of experience, women pilots are absolute disasters
2. at high levels of experience, women pilots are comparably safe as male pilots
Every woman who crashes and dies, or crashes and survives and quits, or crashes and survives but has "crashed her plane" on her record and thus is never hired, or barely graduates without crashing, does not reach high experience.
Comparing the safety record of highly-experienced women pilots to male pilots at the same level of experience is comparing the absolute elite of women pilots with the average male pilot, because all the non-elite women pilots are dead or in a career better suited to their ability.
I thought stuff like "100 year old woman says she smokes a cigar and drinks a Dr. Pepper every day!" so morons start drinking Dr. Pepper and smoking cigars like it's the Elixir of Life was the funniest example of morons not understanding survivorship bias, but this is actually funnier when you consider the plane chart is what's used as a visual metaphor for the fallacy
>1. at low levels of experience, women pilots are absolute disasters
Incorrect. At low levels of experience, female pilots are indistinguishable from male pilots re: crash rates. >2. at high levels of experience, women pilots are comparably safe as male pilots
Yes, same as with (1)
Please learn how to read, Mr. ESL. Allah isn't real JSYK.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>citation needed
1 week ago
Anonymous
literally the opposite of what's been known for decades. Women crash planes more often than men. At high experience levels, they crash planes about the same as men.
The difference is much fewer women reach high levels of experience, just as if you had 10 year olds fly planes, you'd have a lot more crashes, but the ones who reach 20 would probably be about as good as a 30 year old with 10 years on the controls.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>literally the opposite of what's been known for decades.
Actually existing reality proves you wrong. >Women crash planes more often than men.
Actually existing reality proves you wrong. >At high experience levels, they crash planes about the same as men.
Correct.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>it's real in my mind
Just say it's an emotional argument, Abdull. Just own it.
>sure women crash planes way more often than men >but they mostly survive! >in your face!
Well then, if these women pilots mostly survive crashing their planes, it's a wonder why airlines refuse to hire all these completely alive women who easily survived their plane crashes, to fly planes full of passengers!
Must be bigotry!
1 week ago
Anonymous
>>sure women crash planes way more often than men
But they don't, unless you're comparing experienced men to inexperienced women. Why would you ever consider that a legitimate comparison though?
BTW survivorship bias can't be applicable here because the vast vast vast majority of pilots never die in a plane crash. You'd realize that if you weren't an absolute statlet.
>citation needed
It's already been cited in this thread. L2Read
1 week ago
Anonymous
>It's already been cited in this thread. L2Read
you mean this thing
Few of them want to be fighter pilots, fewer still make excellent fighter pilots. They're out there, but they aren't worth the trouble. In the 1980s being a fighter pilot was all about being the best jet-jocks in the world and having a kick-ass time. They used to bus chicks from the main gate to the officers' club, and they'd be lining up for the chance to frick pilots. Used to have strippers at the clubs too. It was a badass high-t environment. Can't have that with women.
Fast forward to present time, and listen to the service chiefs whine about how they can't retain pilots. Newsflash: the airlines were paying just as well (better in some cases) then they are in present day, but retention wasn't as much of a problem. It's because back then being a fighter pilot was more than a job, it was a unique calling with the kind of lifestyle you couldn't get elsewhere. The culture made it worth sticking around for 20 years, retiring, and then going to the airlines to swap war-stories with your copilot while making big $$$. Like all male-only spheres, it was ruined by women.
>chuds pretend to love statistics and mathematical facts >until you point out that women on average are smarter, score higher on intelligence tests, live longer, have less mental health issues and less prone to disease >can't bring this up though without eternal seething
Women live longer because men protect them. They're more focused around the mean/average, not more intelligent. Men have more outliers at the bottom and peaks of intelligence. Women somehow being more mentally healthy is peak feminist delusion. Probably cooked up by some spinster dweeb.
>they aren't more intelligent...because...WELL BECAUSE I SAID SO PLEASE STOP POSTING STATISTICS I ONLY LIKE THEM WHEN THEY ARE LIES PRODUCED BY STORMgayS
>my personal life experience tells me that all the women I see are smarter than me (a moron), so this is clearly a universal truth
a man's brain is 13% larger than a woman's on average, and you use yours to repeatedly tell yourself that you're a woman. not unlike the morons in elementary school who told people that they were wolves / animals / etc.
She was only picked because the guy was a reckless and a liability, not cause she was more skilled than him. And the guy ends up saving the day anyway lol
Skimmed the thread. Shouldn't the debate be more about skill than safety? Seems like everyone is talking about safety. Just drive slower, sinple. Is there data on male vs female racing victories or even successful military flying missions? I hear tell that Danika Patrick was supposed to be pretty good.
You’re a fricking idiot if you were actually mad at her character. There are female pilots and they just made her a regular pilot. If they made her the equivalent of rooster or hangman or over the top better than all the men then I would agree with you. They added a woman but made it tasteful.
Okay...and? How is it woke? Her storyline in the movie isn't tied to her being a woman, or being inherently superior to the men because she's a woman. There's no "men are keeping me from accomplishing my goals" plot thread. Do you honestly just think because she's a woman that makes it woke?
the parts with the minority pilots and their character establishment was easily the worst part of the movie, it was unnecessary and time consuming, it certainly qualifies as woke
I don't really know why you guys are so insistent that women can't do the stuff they can.
Why does it matter to you? If she were your wife or girlfriend, would you be telling her that she's trash and that she should never try again at her passion? Would you say it to your own mother?
Women live for the praise their men heap onto them. As a matter of face, men live for the same ends. The best thing someone can do is let the other know that they're doing great, and to try again.
If she's not my relative or loved one in any capacity, I don't owe her shit.
It's not business nor is it in my interest to look after her you stupid simp.
Worse, becausemen have better internal protection. Even something as insignificant as the way men and women store fat give men advatage to withstand pressures and impacts.
It is ironically women who historically chose men according to their physical qualities that would make them better drones for resource acquisition who now cry about unfairness.
women make good pilots. they stand up to the forces of combat better and they are disposable.
>Kara S. Hultgreen[1] (October 5, 1965 – October 25, 1994) was an American naval aviator who served as a lieutenant in the United States Navy and was the first female carrier-based fighter pilot in the U.S. Navy. She was also the first female fighter pilot in the U.S. military to die in a crash.[2] She died just months after she was certified for combat, when she crashed her F-14 Tomcat into the sea on final approach to USS Abraham Lincoln.
just because it's the final mission doesn't mean the diversity quotas are suspended
she stood up to the crashing forces better than you would have
>One (1) female pilot fricks up
>Extrapolate to every female pilot
So this is the famed logical brain that men possess.
That picture is funny, because women consider themsrlves to be a monolith
'As a woman' is bog standard talking point all across the globe. 'As a man' doesn't exist and only ones saying it are dregs of society barking on the internet.
>women suck at driving cars, fherfore, theybsuck at flying planes
Its simple deduction
>more male passengers die than females
Probably because women were driving
So your argument is that women are more likely to crash into a man than they are to crash into a woman?
Probably because males think the speed limit is a suggestion
Show the deaths/accidents per mile driven.
This. Men drive far more than women.
Women drive 30% less yet have 45-62% fewer fatal collisions than men. Curious!
>On average
Is that mean or median? Does that count commercial vehicle operators?
>use statistics
>NO NOT LIKE THAT
>NO NOT LIKE THAT EITHER
>NO NOT LIKE THIS EITHER
>WELL WHAT ABOUT COMMERCIAL VEHICLES...
oof all this hedge betting, Ahmed.
I guarantee they're counting commercial accidents when they talk about men dying in car accidents. The leading cause of work place deaths in the USA is automobile accidents after all. Interestingly, men are 10x more likely to die in a workplace accident than women despite making up roughly equal portions of the labor force.
>I just feel the statistics are wrong because I felt it in my mind
That's not an argument.
>Interestingly, men are 10x more likely to die in a workplace accident than women despite making up roughly equal portions of the labor force.
And that has to do with frick all, because...?
You can be an insufferable simping homosexual all you want but just because you're a moronic shut-in who never sees the real world doesn't mean everyone else is.
Those of us who have actually seen women driving know full well they have terrible spatial awareness. They're terrible at reversing, terrible at negotiating tighter spaces, and easily start fricking up and fumbling their pedals when they start to panic.
On the other hand, men are more prone to driving with excessive speed so yeah they die more.
>They're terrible at reversing, terrible at negotiating tighter spaces, and easily start fricking up and fumbling their pedals when they start to panic.
That's just because they drive less. Now normalize it to male drivers of the same experience :^)
>t. makes moronic Islamic-tier teenager statement about women drivers, the biggest meme on earth
>some anon does three seconds of googling to figure out it's bullshit
>homosexual goes into a seething rage over it
kek every time.
facts don't care about your feelings
>Says 30% less
>Really more like 40% less(39%)
Whoa.
>Women drive 39% less yet have 45% to 62% fewer fatal collisions
Curious!
Chuds love making you play whack-a-mole. There's always a new cope
women are worse drivers in all respects. men are just more risk taking so they do dumb shit like speed or try to pass when it’s moronic etc. and end up crashing in a million different ways. I thought everybody knew this really obvious thing. amazing how moronic city slickers people are.
>women are worse drivers but men are dumber and worse drivers on the road but uh, women are bad drivers and uhh shit I don't know
Men are more likely to drive at night and in adverse weather.
And that makes them better drivers....why?
No, that means that they're more likely to get in accidents because they work off hours and in demanding conditions.
We already said women drive 39% less miles than men but get in only 45% less accidents. When we start accounting that men will drive more miles in more hazardous conditions we can see that women aren't really safer drivers than men.
You are just extrapolating because it's cope because you are big mad about this very stupid point you keep ride or dying for. I mean, I know why you do.
Why do so many more men die in the work place than women? Is it because men are stupid or because men work more dangerous jobs?
Why is there a "wage gap?" Is it because women are being oppressed, or because they work safe and leisurely jobs that pay worse?
I feel sorry that you're such a mental midget.
Idk Ahmed, I hear this "men die in the workplace more" meme all the time but where is the source for that as a median average? And yes, it's common knowledge in the US that women on average get paid less for the same work and same experience. That's not really a hoax or a meme or a leftist conspiracy.
>mental midget
just /misc/tard slop you people say.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/187127/number-of-occupational-injury-deaths-in-the-us-by-gender-since-2003/
Women are an order of magnitude less likely to die in the workplace than men despite making up roughly equal parts of the work force.
>statista
>you have to pay to read it
just post an actual study you fricking moron. One that's available.
You can pull up Bureau of Labor Statistics stats yourself if you want, but it's well known fact.
You could, you are the one making the claim.
I'm done arguing with a troglodyte like yourself. If you want to pretend that men and women don't live different lives and work different jobs that have different risks, you're free to do so.
Why won't you just post it?
>it's common knowledge in the US that women on average get paid less for the same work and same experience. That's not really a hoax or a meme or a leftist conspiracy.
Women actually get paid more than men with equal experience and education.
>women actually get paid more than men with equal experience and education.
No they don't, Muhammad.
>only close to half less accidents
lol checkmate libcucks, amirite??
>men will drive more in hazardous conditions
>this somehow, coupled with 45 percent less makes women worse drivers
Is your mind broken?
I'm positing that women aren't really safer drivers than men, not that they're worse drivers. Keep up, idiot.
Which is hedging your bets because you got blown the frick out. Now you are acshually'ing your point.
>women are worse drivers in all respects.
>except for the respects in which men are worse
Curious
Men get in more fatal accidents because they're swerving to avoid women that are driving like reckless maniacs.
You can't fly a jet at 20 mph
>(insert group) sucks at driving
>graph shows automobile passenger deaths
You really thought this one out, anon.
99% of truck drivers are male, even doing per capita is missleading
Car insurance is more expensive for men because they cause more accidents
that's biased since men
>are the primary drivers of every relationship
>are chaffeurs, truck drivers, taxi drivers, etc
>drive more since they work, barely any stay at home dads
only thing I would find disadvantageous is that men are less patient drivers and more prone to DUI, but in terms of skill and reaction they're way better
Women work and drive at the same rate as men moron. But you're right in that men are more prone to DUI and speeding which guess what are the main causes of accidents
>Women work and drive at the same rate as men moron
Pfffffft, simpa lumpas are desperate here.
>female (male)
Men take more risks especially when younger.
Women have lower muscle mass and slower reflexes as shown in pretty much every single studies and disciplines like racing or even shooters.
>exkcd
lmao
Also, aircraft accidents are disproportionately higher among women.
>1
There needs to be one of him drawing this comic and both the male and female reacting to it
Russians soldiers are all male.
Have you seen the war going on
Russians are the dumbest and gayest fight force in history. There is an epidemic of gay rape inside of the Russian army and with any Ukrainians males they find
Ruskies can't even remember where they put their fricking mines out in the road and are getting blown up by their own tanks because they send out conscripts with 6 months of training to fight Ukrainians who are in a bloodlust to kill every Russian they find.
Yeah but that doesn't explain the insane gay rape fetish Russians and indians have. The war has been eye opening. Google all the investigations going on right now. Russians can't stop raping each other and filming it, indians keep watching and spreading it for money
Probably because they live in a sexually repressed dictatorship that punishes homosexuals and drives them underground?
you're allowed to keep your fetishes to yourself
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0305048396000126
what a moron.
>After adjusting for variables included in the model, accident rates of males and females were not significantly different.
you should read your link moron
So then why say one gender is better than the other? moron. I didn't imply either was better. Shit for brains.
Oh I recognize this article! It's the one that says females have higher rates of accidents than males but, after normalizing to years of experience, says there is so significant difference! It turns out experienced pilots are less likely to crash and there are fewer experienced female pilots because they were discriminated against up until very recently.
>women get killed in crashes far more
>but the ones who manage to not kill themselves are pretty much as good as male pilots!
>#science wins again, chuds!
lmao holy shit it's even about planes
Your greentext is like you just ignored all the things being said in this thread.
I did. Female pilots are shit so the Onlyfans subs immediately started seething about cars lmao.
The real reason female pilots shouldn't exist is that if any is ever captured, worthless pieces of shit mixed with watery cum like you will immediately try to sabotage the entire war effort to save them.
Meds please
>limpwristed gays hooked on Zoloft, Prozac and le weed mao tell other people to take meds
Weird you went to this specific strawman.
100% of simps fall into that description.
It's funny that anyone who posts a statistic that is anything moderately the opposite of "I hate women", is a simp
>s-shut up!!!!!
You just coped versus objective reality using the clearest case of suvivorship bias I've ever seen lmao
That's...you, anon. You are literally the one doing "shut up".
I'm the one laughing at you
>w-well at 10 years experience* male and female pilots are about the same, pretty much!!!!
>*all the women who crashed their planes and died did not reach 10 years' experience
the funniest thing is that the subject is literally aircraft
Someone else literally brought up how female pilots are underrepresented not because they aren't experienced pilots...but that they don't get hired. That's a verifiable fact that nobody disputes. This is like saying pre-segregation schools show that there aren't any black graduates because they weren't allowed to attend white schools.
>we need to hire more people who consistently crash billion dollar planes so that it can make simp tummies feel warm
>if I ignore the things being said the argument is whatever I want it to be
ok then
>things being said
I'd rather focus on planes being crashed.
Your cucked mindset is exactly how Harward ended up with worthless Black person president who stole every work she ever published, for measly salary of 1.6 million dollars per year.
You are on the wrong board, schizo I don't even know what the frick you are talking about
>I refuse to acknowledge what you are talking about because it defies my subjective reality where women are just as good at flying planes
>We should only ever allow experienced pilots to fly because they're less likely to crash
>What do you mean they're all 90 and retired and we have no more pilots?
>but that they don't get hired
>the group of pilots who are most likely to crash and kill everyone aboard don't get hired
no fricking way
you're still saying the same thing.
women who crash and die don't get experience
women who crash and get injured don't get experience
women who nearly crash and correctly decide this isn't for them don't get experience
when comparing experience for experience, you are comparing the elite female pilots against the average male pilots
Whoosh, moron.
>noooooo! nooooo!
lmao
I accept your concession
>says stupid things
>literally made an argument based on survivorship bias about aircraft
>got laughed at by everyone
>screeched in denial
>i ac-ccept your c-c-c-concc-c-ession
lmao based redditor
1. at low levels of experience, women pilots are absolute disasters
2. at high levels of experience, women pilots are comparably safe as male pilots
Every woman who crashes and dies, or crashes and survives and quits, or crashes and survives but has "crashed her plane" on her record and thus is never hired, or barely graduates without crashing, does not reach high experience.
Comparing the safety record of highly-experienced women pilots to male pilots at the same level of experience is comparing the absolute elite of women pilots with the average male pilot, because all the non-elite women pilots are dead or in a career better suited to their ability.
>got laughed at by everyone
This thread has been a handful of (probably) Muslim newhomosexuals angrily whatabouting and throwing a tantrum at being wrong.
>Comparing the safety record of highly-experienced women pilots to male pilots at the same level of experience is comparing the absolute elite of women pilots with the average male pilot, because all the non-elite women pilots are dead or in a career better suited to their ability.
That's literally not what anyone is saying, moron.
>n-n-n-n-nobody ee-v-v-ver s-ss-said that
>It's the one that says females have higher rates of accidents than males but, after normalizing to years of experience, says there is so significant difference! It turns out experienced pilots are less likely to crash and there are fewer experienced female pilots because they were discriminated against up until very recently.
1. at low levels of experience, women pilots are absolute disasters
2. at high levels of experience, women pilots are comparably safe as male pilots
Every woman who crashes and dies, or crashes and survives and quits, or crashes and survives but has "crashed her plane" on her record and thus is never hired, or barely graduates without crashing, does not reach high experience.
Comparing the safety record of highly-experienced women pilots to male pilots at the same level of experience is comparing the absolute elite of women pilots with the average male pilot, because all the non-elite women pilots are dead or in a career better suited to their ability.
I thought stuff like "100 year old woman says she smokes a cigar and drinks a Dr. Pepper every day!" so morons start drinking Dr. Pepper and smoking cigars like it's the Elixir of Life was the funniest example of morons not understanding survivorship bias, but this is actually funnier when you consider the plane chart is what's used as a visual metaphor for the fallacy
So like, are you illiterate? I'm seriously asking
>nooooo!
>don't you see? I claimed that yet another obviously inherent difference is the result of evil nebulous "discrimination!!"
>you're not allowed to effortlessly disprove that!
>discrimination just doesn't happen, also I hate women and wish they were fricking dead praise be to Allah
You've done a woman's job, sir. Nice trolling throughout the thread.
>get btfo early on in the thread
>"oh no I better start shitposting because I look dumb praise Allah"
>discrimination just doesn't happen
lmao there it is
>well it sure looks like that's an objective fact there showing yet another inherent difference between groups
>but have you considered that I've just declared it's mysterious oppression?
>checkmate chud!
there is a reason we have women's sports, and even women's chess tournaments actually lol
there's a reason why
https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2013/11/01/241895965/how-one-kenyan-tribe-produces-the-worlds-best-runners
If women are superior to men then why do they always segregate themselves away from men when competing? And complain if they so much as have to compete with a troony?
Trannies are tulpa agents of the patriarchy. There are dozens, nay hundreds, of sexist men sitting in lounge chairs using their psychic powers to harm women in competitions and also mentally buck break other men into taking estrogen and use the same psychic powers to help them dominate women in water polo and weight lifting.
>discrimination doesn't happen but if it did its acshually a good thing
Imagine with a straight face, implying segregation was a good thing and it didn't actually prevent viable candidates for higher education lol imagine believing this. Imagine being a polhomosexual.
>got humiliated
>now ranting about segregation
Segregation exists today. We have women's sports. We even have women's intellectual sports. This is because in both cases the top-ranked champion women would not qualify to compete with men. This is objective reality.
>noooooooo! noooooooooooooooo!! nooooooooo!
>The researchers found that loss of control on landing or takeoff was the most common circumstance for both sexes, leading to 59 percent of female pilots1 crashes and 36 percent of males1. Experiencing mechanical failure, running out of fuel, and landing the plane with the landing gear up were among the factors more likely with males, while stalling was more likely with females.
>The majority of the crashes -- 95 percent for females and 88 percent for males -- involved at least one type of pilot error. Mishandling aircraft kinetics, such as incorrect use of the rudder, poor response to a bounce, or inability to recover from a stall, was the most common error for both sexes, but was more prevalent among females (accounting for 81 percent of the crashes) than males (accounting for 48 percent). Males, however, appeared more likely to be guilty of poor decision-making, risk-taking, and inattentiveness, examples of which include misjudging weather and visibility or flying an aircraft with a known defect.
Men tend to make mistakes of judgement - flying a plane known to be defective, riskier decisions related to weather etc. Women can't fly planes.
Anon, why do the organizers of marathon races discriminate against every other people but Kenyans, and especially that one single tribe of Kenyans who dominate every elite-level competition?
>...and if it does exist, it's a good thing
there we are, the polhomosexual said the line. I don't think I've ever seriously heard of a "female chess tournament", I think you literally made that up and are backpeddling to discussing physical attribute differences in male/female sports as if that's the same thing as pretending women crash cars more because of "well they have lady parts anon duh, thats why", objective reality, as you claim to care about, actually doesnt say theres major measurable differences in intellect between men and women or that they are less capable of learning to fly airplanes or cars. That's just moronic phrenology autism rotting your brain. Nobody in this thread is even arguing that men aren't physically stronger than women either, you have to pivot because of how bootyblasted you are. I don't know what time it is in Iran, but you don't have to stay in a thread and get made fun of if you don't want to.
You polhomosexuals all argue poorly and lose everytime. I don't know why you keep doing it.
>bunch of ranting about the mean men who keep pointing out you'll never be a real woman
>objective reality, as you claim to care about, actually doesnt say theres major measurable differences in intellect between men and women or that they are less capable of learning to fly airplanes or cars.
who are the champion female race car drivers
who are the men's league champion chess players
we are a sexually dimorphic species.
> incorrect use of the rudder, poor response to a bounce, or inability to recover from a stall, was the most common error for both sexes, but was more prevalent among females (accounting for 81 percent of the crashes) than males (accounting for 48 percent)
>loss of control on landing or takeoff was the most common circumstance for both sexes, leading to 59 percent of female pilots1 crashes and 36 percent of males1
>When you do an actual valid comparison, there is no statistically significant difference between males and female
>when you introduce survivorship bias so you can compare the elite women pilots to average men pilots, it's fine!
lmao
>s-shut up
>ur just s-stupid :~~*~~*~~*
"Men tend to make mistakes of judgement - flying a plane known to be defective, riskier decisions related to weather etc. Women can't fly planes."
You are just spiraling, go take a break or drink some water and get your shit together or go back to containment already
>noooo shut up!! ur stupid!!!!
lmao don't you just wish you could le downboat me or call a mod
>Where are these women's only chess tournaments, bud?
you... don't know that there are?
>troon seethes
>It doesn't mean women are aliens from a different species with different fricking gray matter in their skulls
Nope, but it means on average that they are smaller, weaker, slower, and dumber than men, which you can see in literally every and any elite competition depending on strength, endurance, spatial reasoning, reflexes or intelligence.
>still can't read
>blah blah blah trannies
>blah blah no you blah blah
>blah blah
boring. It's boring. Where are there women's only chess tournaments you fricking moron? Show me one.
>Where are there women's only chess tournaments you fricking moron? Show me one.
did you know the same device you're using to look stupid on the internet could give you the answer to that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_World_Chess_Championship
>Not a single study, on earth, anywhere, makes the claim they are "dumber than men".
holy shit you literally know nothing about the subject lmao
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7604277/
>everyone exactly same
>except in every single form of competition
lmao
Did...did you not read either thing you linked or what? Are you doing a little trolling for fun?
>desperate deflection and cope
it never gets old
>didn't know about WWCC
>show me this "women's chess tournament"
>uhhh shutup meanie :~~*(
>not a single study says men are smarter than women
>Except in tests of reading comprehension, perceptual speed, and associative memory, males typically outnumber females substantially among high-scoring individuals.
>uhhh shutup meanie :~~*~~*
lmao
Well for one, the FIDE's main world chess tournament isn't "men only", women compete in that, secondly you didn't actually read the study you posted. I think you frantically looked for abstracts that just study differences in cognitive ability and just posted them based on the title. The thing you posted does not make the claim (if you opened up the article, which you didn't) that wen perform worse on reading comprehension, perceptual speed and associative memory tests. It literally says the exact fricking opposite of that.
Why are you like this?
>Well for one, the FIDE's main world chess tournament isn't "men only", women compete in that
oh really? where do they place usually? winners i assume
Well if you actually looked at the Wikipedia you cited, it shows all the mixed open champions, a few of them are in fact women...yeah. I accept your concession though
really?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Chess_Championships
all i see is men, in both the winner and runners up position
were you referring to amateur league or something where women can actually compete
>frantic cope
lmao remember when you said
>Where are there women's only chess tournaments you fricking moron? Show me one.
lol
>women compete in that
they must dominate, right?
oh wait, they don't. which is weird, right? how can that be
>The thing you posted does not make the claim (if you opened up the article, which you didn't) that wen perform worse on reading comprehension, perceptual speed and associative memory tests.
it says that with the exception of those, men outnumber women among high-scoring individuals. now how can that be, if everyone's equal?
>all the mixed open champions, a few of them are in fact women
>a few
>WWCC
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>says that with the exception of those, men outnumber women among high-scoring individuals. now how can that be, if everyone's equal?
That's not the conclusion of the article, at all. Do you just hope nobody clicks the link and reads it?
Not him, but I opened it and that's what it says.
>That's not the conclusion of the article, at all.
>nooooooo! if I just deny it, it goes away!
lmao
who's the top-ranked female chess player in the world? since we're all equal, and chess is a game involving zero physical strength, and women's competitive chess has been around for a century, she must at least be in the top 5.
top 10, maybe?
certainly top 30.
50?
75, for sure.
no?
So is your argument now that it doesn't matter if there are women champions in open tournaments because they have to dominate them to prove to you, some moron, that they can win chess matches too?
>women champions in open tournaments
>open tournament
>WWCC
>champions
you don't know how chess rankings work, do you lmao
the top-ranked female chess player in the world, who's a generational phenomenon btw, is ranked #89.
>were you referring to amateur league or something where women can actually compete
he is lmao
literally knows nothing about the subject and is frantically googing straws to grasp
>women are dumb because they aren't good at chess
I knew you'd finally come around.
sports competitions demonstrates men are stronger, have greater athletic ability and lateral movement
online sports competitions demonstrates men have better twitch reflexes and quick thinking
chess competitions demonstrates men have higher intelligence and better faculty for strategy and forethought
what exactly are women better at, or even equal to men at?
>what exactly are women better at, or even equal to men at?
Lying. They do it as easily as they breathe and without any guilt
>in every elite competitive situation, which is the purest evaluation of ability, objectively dumber, slower, and weaker than male counterparts
>the very most elite women in almost every competitive situation would not even qualify for competition at the male's level
>statistically, much worse at flying aircraft than men, which is unsurprising given the above
that's what we're talking about
>crushed on every single point
>w-why do you even c-c-care about this :~~*
because it's the truth, and the truth matters.
Lmao at Socrates here thinking he's expounding on some great iteration of the truth no one has ever expressed.
I'm not even the original anon you were yelling yourself hoarse at you trog.
I'm saying, and listen to this one, that you don't have to put someone down because of their gender, just because they are doing something outside of their purview. You don't have to be a seething chud about it.
>s-shut up u meanie
>stop saying all these Hate Facts :~~*((
>why do u even want to hurt peoples feelings :~~*~~*~~*~~*
if your feelings get hurt by facts, the problem isn't with facts.
lmao you are hopeless
You remind me of that israelite, the Shapiro dude
"Muh facts don't care about your feelings" shit
Kek what a loser
How many chess competitions have you won, that you've become so insistent on the supposed relativistic inferiority of women?
I don't even stand up for women, but you're pathetic by comparison.
you remind me of a woman with your arguments
>everything failed
>pull shaming card
Every. Time.
>btfo on every single point
>u-ur like that dork
lmao I accept your concession
you'll still never be a real woman
>I'm not even the original anon you were yelling yourself hoarse at
Oh, I know, because your kind always pops up when all the simps gets btfo on objective facts, and you start with 'but whattabout muh feefees' like a clockwork.
*women
>Where are there women's only chess tournaments you fricking moron? Show me one.
Simps are this fricking stupid, that is genuinely impressive.
Not a single study, on earth, anywhere, makes the claim they are "dumber than men". No statistic reflects this in women, anywhere. At all. I thought you morons loved science?
>woman dumb because they no race car faster than me
is this really what /misc/ has reduced to? Or have these homosexuals just always been this stupid?
Who are you talking to?
>still can't read
homie, you have greentexted a thing someone ELSE posted that blew you the frick out like 5 times, HALF A DOZEN TIMES! You looked at the written English, somehow had a brain fog and just didn't understand the words being written down in the thing.
It's remarkable really.
>nooo I said everything's discrimination!
>so I win!
you will never, ever be a real woman
which is good because it means you'd likely be less incompetent at flying a plane
>trannies are in the room right now with him
Obsessed.
they're in this thread
hopefully this humiliation doesn't accelerate their eventual suicide
Do you ever think that getting to a point in your life where you imagine the suicides of imagined trannies on an image board might be a time to idk, seek help? Do you think it's normal to want people to kill themselves?
if they are troonys yes
You think it's normal behavior to want trannies to kill themselves? You don't think that abhorrent behavior?
oh its so abhorrent, I am LITERALLY shaking
but troonanon, I specifically said I hope it doesn't cause suicides
that is the opposite of wanting people to kill themselves
you keep getting things 180 degrees opposite to the truth, which I suppose is how you have convinced yourself that you've turned into a girl just by wishing real hard
Simpas absolutely melting. Do us all a favor and fly Boeing piloted only by women.
>butbutbut if there was just as much women in planes as men, they would stop crashing planes
Lmao!
Oh I see, it appears you got caught in a few lies and didn't think we'd notice. Where are these women's only chess tournaments, bud? Where?
>Muhammad literally doesn't know what dimorphic is or means
It doesn't mean women are aliens from a different species with different fricking gray matter in their skulls, incel.
>he continues to quote a thing that literally says the exact opposite of what he claims
This had to be bait now, right? It's astounding how often you keep greentexting a thing that says the fricking opposite of what you do.
>After controlling for years of experience, there is no statistically significant difference between male and female pilots
No shit women are more likely to crash when your male group is disproportionately safe due to massively experienced pilots. It's like saying that 16 year old women are more likely to crash cars than 50 year old men. It's an invalid comparison. When you do an actual valid comparison, there is no statistically significant difference between males and females. Only morons can't understand this despite a half dozen posts ITT explaining it.
They have to be ESL Muslims I can't see anyone else failing to read this hard
What about that greentext are you genuinely having a hard time deciphering and digesting into your brain because I continue to think you really don't understand what it's saying.
Anon, you literally posted an example of how if you discriminated against Kenyans, you wouldn't be able to hire the best runners...
women have shit twitch reflexes anyway and would get rekt in a dogfight
>1. at low levels of experience, women pilots are absolute disasters
Incorrect. At low levels of experience, female pilots are indistinguishable from male pilots re: crash rates.
>2. at high levels of experience, women pilots are comparably safe as male pilots
Yes, same as with (1)
Please learn how to read, Mr. ESL. Allah isn't real JSYK.
>citation needed
literally the opposite of what's been known for decades. Women crash planes more often than men. At high experience levels, they crash planes about the same as men.
The difference is much fewer women reach high levels of experience, just as if you had 10 year olds fly planes, you'd have a lot more crashes, but the ones who reach 20 would probably be about as good as a 30 year old with 10 years on the controls.
>literally the opposite of what's been known for decades.
Actually existing reality proves you wrong.
>Women crash planes more often than men.
Actually existing reality proves you wrong.
>At high experience levels, they crash planes about the same as men.
Correct.
>it's real in my mind
Just say it's an emotional argument, Abdull. Just own it.
get killed in crashes far more
They don't though. Since the rest of your post hinges on this assumption, you have been refuted. QED.
>sure women crash planes way more often than men
>but they mostly survive!
>in your face!
Well then, if these women pilots mostly survive crashing their planes, it's a wonder why airlines refuse to hire all these completely alive women who easily survived their plane crashes, to fly planes full of passengers!
Must be bigotry!
>>sure women crash planes way more often than men
But they don't, unless you're comparing experienced men to inexperienced women. Why would you ever consider that a legitimate comparison though?
BTW survivorship bias can't be applicable here because the vast vast vast majority of pilots never die in a plane crash. You'd realize that if you weren't an absolute statlet.
It's already been cited in this thread. L2Read
>It's already been cited in this thread. L2Read
you mean this thing
that says women have more accidents and then backtracks with cope and throws out the "diversity is our strength" tagline?
That says the exact opposite of what you're claiming though, Muhammad.
all they do is crash planes because real stress isn't like the training simulator
Fighter jet pilots are not disposable
Yes they are just like any other zogbot
Few of them want to be fighter pilots, fewer still make excellent fighter pilots. They're out there, but they aren't worth the trouble. In the 1980s being a fighter pilot was all about being the best jet-jocks in the world and having a kick-ass time. They used to bus chicks from the main gate to the officers' club, and they'd be lining up for the chance to frick pilots. Used to have strippers at the clubs too. It was a badass high-t environment. Can't have that with women.
Fast forward to present time, and listen to the service chiefs whine about how they can't retain pilots. Newsflash: the airlines were paying just as well (better in some cases) then they are in present day, but retention wasn't as much of a problem. It's because back then being a fighter pilot was more than a job, it was a unique calling with the kind of lifestyle you couldn't get elsewhere. The culture made it worth sticking around for 20 years, retiring, and then going to the airlines to swap war-stories with your copilot while making big $$$. Like all male-only spheres, it was ruined by women.
sounds toxic
>sounds toxic
I already told you it was an awesome time anon, you don't have to sell it to me.
except excessive g force can cause their uteruses to prolapse
She's hot so it's ok
this, nobody complained when it was Jessica Biel in a blue bikini
Didn’t
Earn
It
>every single one of the reserve pilots is some flavor of chink
that was pretty funny too
Propaganda for failed empire. Watch a truly good movie instead idiot.
Why isn't she a shemale? Isn't that kinda bigoted?
why isn't she in more movies
>chuds pretend to love statistics and mathematical facts
>until you point out that women on average are smarter, score higher on intelligence tests, live longer, have less mental health issues and less prone to disease
>can't bring this up though without eternal seething
>tranime
>Cinemaphile
cope.
Nobody talks about trannies more than you schizos, you post about them thousands of times a day then jerk off to them on /gif/ in confusion
>have less mental health issues
troony simping for Feminism
Women live longer because men protect them. They're more focused around the mean/average, not more intelligent. Men have more outliers at the bottom and peaks of intelligence. Women somehow being more mentally healthy is peak feminist delusion. Probably cooked up by some spinster dweeb.
>they aren't more intelligent...because...WELL BECAUSE I SAID SO PLEASE STOP POSTING STATISTICS I ONLY LIKE THEM WHEN THEY ARE LIES PRODUCED BY STORMgayS
everything you said is obviously demonstrably false except for women living longer which is to be expected when they live like docile livestock.
>it's demonstrably false because I live in an insular political bubble online and don't talk or meet any women in the real world
did you accidentally greentext?
>my personal life experience tells me that all the women I see are smarter than me (a moron), so this is clearly a universal truth
a man's brain is 13% larger than a woman's on average, and you use yours to repeatedly tell yourself that you're a woman. not unlike the morons in elementary school who told people that they were wolves / animals / etc.
>literal phrenology now
She was only picked because the guy was a reckless and a liability, not cause she was more skilled than him. And the guy ends up saving the day anyway lol
It's not woke because all my internet friends loved it.
> board which thinks women are inferior to men in almost every field suddenly does 180 because of cruise kino and lady in op's pic is hot
It doesn't matter since she's cute and not annoying.
It's a movie, not a documentary. She's there so the movie won't be a sausagefest.
Skimmed the thread. Shouldn't the debate be more about skill than safety? Seems like everyone is talking about safety. Just drive slower, sinple. Is there data on male vs female racing victories or even successful military flying missions? I hear tell that Danika Patrick was supposed to be pretty good.
You’re a fricking idiot if you were actually mad at her character. There are female pilots and they just made her a regular pilot. If they made her the equivalent of rooster or hangman or over the top better than all the men then I would agree with you. They added a woman but made it tasteful.
Okay...and? How is it woke? Her storyline in the movie isn't tied to her being a woman, or being inherently superior to the men because she's a woman. There's no "men are keeping me from accomplishing my goals" plot thread. Do you honestly just think because she's a woman that makes it woke?
>How is it woke?
I'm not sure that he knows. Maybe that's why he asked the question in the first place???
Holy frick, I love Phoinex so much.
its to empower women to drop bombs on third worlders chuddie
So, which one do you think she fricked?
Wish it was Bob, could have been Rooster, but we all know it was most likely Hangman
the parts with the minority pilots and their character establishment was easily the worst part of the movie, it was unnecessary and time consuming, it certainly qualifies as woke
I don't really know why you guys are so insistent that women can't do the stuff they can.
Why does it matter to you? If she were your wife or girlfriend, would you be telling her that she's trash and that she should never try again at her passion? Would you say it to your own mother?
Women live for the praise their men heap onto them. As a matter of face, men live for the same ends. The best thing someone can do is let the other know that they're doing great, and to try again.
It is your duty as a man to protect others, especially from themselves.
If she's not my relative or loved one in any capacity, I don't owe her shit.
It's not business nor is it in my interest to look after her you stupid simp.
Learn to read, my point was that yes, you have to say uncomfortable truths to people, especially to your loved ones to protect them from real harm.
>If she were your wife or girlfriend, would you be telling her that she's trash and that she should never try again at her passion?
yes
>Only one that crashes her plane
True to reality.
can't women handle G's better?
not at the same height
Worse, becausemen have better internal protection. Even something as insignificant as the way men and women store fat give men advatage to withstand pressures and impacts.
It is ironically women who historically chose men according to their physical qualities that would make them better drones for resource acquisition who now cry about unfairness.
I would let her handle my joystick, if you know what I mean.
Hey Vasquez, has anyone ever mistaken you for woke?
my mutt fighter pilot wife