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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There is nothing in the movie to suggest this. For all we know he was a shitter who was carried by the rest of the team.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Buddy, he kept a Hanzo sword. He was obviously frickin nasty, which is why Elle had to resort to reptilian tactics to defeat him.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dumb frick zoomer

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He's the only one who beat Uma.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        and he did it because she broke his brother's heart

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          And because she would have killed him if he didn't

          Also, he knew about her Hanzo sword and just got fired, so he saw a fat payday coming if he won.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sure the fact that she just took excessive effort to try and ambush him and still failed just proves what a loser he was.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Did you even watch the movie? Be honest.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Budd wasn't powerful. Budd was a loser. That's what made him interesting.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The thing is he was extremely powerful, he was just a broken man. That's what made him a great character.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Budd was once a great fighter. He wouldn't have received a Hanzo sword and wouldn't have so much of Bill's respect if he wasn't. That isn't the Budd we get in the movie. We got the broken loser version of Budd, which is better for the movie.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He chose to be a loser because he wanted to punish himself for being the man that he was. Doesn't mean he was a good person but he was self-aware about being evil, which made him better than most of the other characters. The Bride was a murderer on some ego trip playing the hero in her on movie when she should've been scrubbing piss from the floors of public restrooms. None of the characters deserves a good life. If anything Budd was an enlightened buddha compared to other ones. In El Paso Texas a Hattori Hanzo sword gets you about 250 Dollars. Meditate on this.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          he *said* he got 250 dollars to frick with Bill, he never took it in to pawn it, he just wanted to rile him up by saying he sold it for a pittance

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you do understand Bud never sold it right? he was just trying to say hurtful things to Bill

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Probably not the strongest since he's washed up, he's the most intelligent for sure though. Vernita was fair, but O-Ren's death should have put everyone else on high alert. Taking out a whole yakuza army single-handedly was insane. Budd was ultimately the best assassin because only he realized there was no beating her in a straight fight.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the most intelligent
        he got easily duped by the snake girl

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          As far as he was concerned, they were on the same team, she had no reason to do what she did, or so he thought. She only did it because she had a hate boner for Beatrix and it hurted her ego not to be the one that took her life, in any other scenario it would have been a smooth, simple deal.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You are te shitter, go back to Cinemaphile

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Probably a shitter with a sword, but using asymmetric warfare demonstrates his value.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He used his brain and defeated her, even shown mercy and a bit of compassion by using salt slugs

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >everyone else are elite assassins that have swords and knows martial arts
    >he just shoots people and contends with them
    too based for this world

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That hat
    That fricking hat

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Rocket, get Buddy the mop

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Rocket, get Buddy the mop

      One of my all-time favorite bit characters.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    why'd he put Uma in a box instead of just killing her?
    Was he a sadist?
    Did he want her to escape?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Becuase if she didn't escape then she couldn't Kill Bill and the rest of the movies doesn't happen

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        pic related

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because he pitied her, he made this evident when talking to Bill about his stance on what they did t her. Giving her a fighting chance was his way of apologizing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Jobber

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Think it was part he's a sadist frick and part he wanted the bride to come after him later and get her revenge

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Budd felt guilty about what he had done to Beatrix at her wedding. What else could he do than leave her for dead yet again? Just let himself die without a fight? Kill her? He couldn't do either of those because they're just not right.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Punishment for breaking his brother's heart.
      He said it clearly.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Multiple birds, one stone
      >He needed to kill Beatrix
      >He felt guilt about El Paso, and wanted to give her the opportunity to survive. Same reason he gave her the flashlight
      >Despite this, he was still Angry at her for breaking Bill’s heart
      >He needed to kill her in a slow an painful way so California Mountain Snake would buy the sword

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He wanted to be punished for his sins. That's also why he was working at that place instead of using his money (teh sword was worth a fortune)/working in a laid back role in the killing business.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >constantly drunk
    >works an awful job
    >didn't even leave texas
    Budd was the only one of them human enough to feel guilt over killing his brother's pregnant girlfriend.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Real. Love the scene when his boss chews him out. A powerful mob killer relegated to this

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >gets defeated by his boss
    yeah, nah

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >let's look at the calendar
      >calendar time for buddy
      this guy cracks me up every time

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Take a hit. Be somebody, baby.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      fricking with your in game currency is the only thing you mexicans understand

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >tailing cocaine with a stripper with a shotgun right next to him
      No wonder he flipped out on budd

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >your as useful as an butthole right here

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Oh shit it's Buck

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I get he didn't expect the bride to dig her way out but he was a stupid frick for taking zero precautions against elle. even if he thought she wasn't gonna kill him because he's bill's brother, she's still a dangerous assassin who hates his guts and who he knows would regret letting the bride go out like that. it's like he doesn't even give a shit, there's no reason to risk his own life the way he did.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He doesn't give a shit. That's sort of the whole point of his character.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Also who would guessed that blonde b***h would pull off that shit. As far as he knows he just wasted the bride who was hunting the whole operation down

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Also who would guessed that blonde b***h would pull off that shit.
          Any of the Vipers should have known better than to trust Elle. They all knew that she was the most sadistic, arrogant, and short tempered out of all of them. There's a reason she was never trusted enough to get a Hanzo.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Fair enough. Still i guess a venomous snake hidden in the case would have caught off guard most guys

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        dude managed to react to and prepare (or at least have prepared) salt bullets, anesthetics and a desecrated burial for the bride, he might be a huge loser but he clearly doesn't have a death wish. for elle, he went straight up moronic mode and couldn't bother to have a SINGLE precaution, not even to ask elle to take the money out of the briefcase herself.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          not to mention he thought of stuff like the pepper spray and flashlight, so he's also someone whose brain works and who thinks at least a little bit ahead when it comes to this type of stuff.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          rock salt shot is an actual real load of a shotgun that he just bought from the store you total fricking idiot Black person brained zoomie leftist homosexual moron holy shit go the frick back how are zooBlack folk this fricking moronic?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >he used this real thing
            >umm ackshually that thing he used is a real thing I am extremely buttmad
            nice tantrum incel

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >incel
              Are you a hole?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >incel
              Whoa! The projection here!!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Actual tantrum

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Irrefutable

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I found out that if I squirt lighter fluid into my air rifle before loading a pellet, it blasts the fricking thing out like a cannon. not healthy for the rifle but it makes a big bang. I like finding out little tricks like that

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            embarrassing

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            homie you just invented cuckshot lmao, what a fricking crybaby. grow up

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              cuckshot sounds hilarious.
              >shoot someone
              >cartridge is filled with cuckshot
              >die later because you didn't use buckshot
              >god sends you to hell for cucking yourself

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He has absolutely no reason to suspect Elle was going to kill him. He is Bill's bro and it was just a simple deal for the sword.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This. And even then she wasn't willing to try and take him in a straight fight.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          One thing that pisses me of more than most is when someone betrays the trust of the other by breaking a deal.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            She was a c**t without honour.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You'd think she'd learn after losing one of her eyes, not even losing the other changed anything.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Elle wasn't much of a fighter compared to the other Vipers. Poisons were her specialty.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            She still trained with Pai Mei

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      elle lies to bill about beatrix putting the snake in his trailer. when bill is speaking to budd, he gets away with saying and doing stuff that other people would not, because he's bill's brother. it stands to reason that Budd had no reason to fear an attack at the hands of the other vipers, due to his being a former member and also the leader's brother.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Budd was the best character out of the Vipers, but he had the worst death. Beatrix didn't even have a real fight with him.

    Best Viper Characters
    1. Budd
    2. Bill
    3. O-Ren
    4. Elle
    5. Vernita

    Best Viper Fights
    1. O-Ren
    2. Elle
    3. Bill
    4. Vernita
    5. Bill

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/VOXPpSn.jpg

      one of the most powerful characters ever created

      dont even remember all those names but bud is the only one who even slightly comes off as a real character and not some silly cartoon shit so it makes sense hes also the only one who actually seems dangerous and not walking plot

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bill was the best fighter besides the bride, who ultimately surpassed him.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bill was the best fighter and I enjoy their fight more than most people, but it wasn't the most memorable fight. The overall confrontation between Bill and Beatrix was more memorable.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Agreed.

          Budd was once a great fighter. He wouldn't have received a Hanzo sword and wouldn't have so much of Bill's respect if he wasn't. That isn't the Budd we get in the movie. We got the broken loser version of Budd, which is better for the movie.

          Exactly he wouldn't have been in the squad or have a hanzo sword if he wasn't a world-class killer. He's rusty and spiritually broken when we see him in the movie but that doesn't mean he still isn't deadly.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What about the best piper?

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We need a Budd/Pai Mei prequel.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Did Budd train with Pai Mei? I only remember it being confirmed he had trained Beatrix, Bill, and Elle. I guess maybe all of the Vipers trained with him at some point, but then again not every Viper was given a Hanzo sword.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How do you tell Sizemore + Madsen apart

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      very easily, for someone without autistic faceblindness. for you, listen for the voice. madsen is more gravelly, sizemore has a thicker accent

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's rarely a problem for me with classic era character actors. Sizemore + Madsen work(ed) so much in similar roles as cool manly heavies it's all a big blob

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          ANYTHING BUT THE MOP

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's rarely a problem for me with classic era character actors. Sizemore + Madsen work(ed) so much in similar roles as cool manly heavies it's all a big blob.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sizemore was the better actor (but a much worse person irl)

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The 12 gauge martial art is a deadly one.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically how the Samurai ended up falling.
      It turns out that all the training in the world isn't going to stop some peasant with a rifle from putting a hole through your chest.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Look where we are now though, cheap mass produced drones dropping grenades on our heads.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The shogunate were the ones with a big rabble of peasants. The Imperial forces were modern and well trained.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        the samurai loved guns and ruled with them for centuries you moron

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He's talking about the Boshin war, when the shogunate got btfo by modern armies. The peasants were mostly on the shogunate side, though.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Billy Jack got fat

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why did Bea just burst through the door like that anyway? It was silly.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      She was enraged I suppose

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      She thought his guard was down. If he had just been sitting there listening to the wireless and drinking she would have got the drop on him.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Interesting choice for a song.

        why'd he put Uma in a box instead of just killing her?
        Was he a sadist?
        Did he want her to escape?

        "She deserves to have her revenge, and we deserve to die... But so does she, so what the hell."

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Were Bill and Budd supposed to be actual brothers? I always assumed that they were just close and been through so much together that they considered each other brothers.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >to the only man I've ever loved - Bill
      they were real brothers. you don't write that gay shit to a close friend.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I assume they shared one parent

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bill was the son of a hooker, remember? Probably different fathers.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What happened between Bill and Budd? Was it the fact he made Budd massacre the innocent people at the wedding?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He says they deserve to die for what they did to her.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Budd probably got tired of the job and Bill got mad at him for quitting. I can't imagine any other reason

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The movie implies the group basically split up after they went after the bride.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so the story is
            >bill knocks up his assassin waifu
            >she decides not to be an assassin any more because she wants to be a mother
            >marries some braindead but otherwise nice guy
            >bill gets jealous and uses his assassin group to have everyone killed
            >everyone in the group decides bill is kind of a c**t and goes to do their own sketchy behaviours outside of his influence
            >bride comes back for revenge
            >most of them feel sorry for her so give her a fighting chance
            >film ends with bride getting her daughter back

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Very good summary Anon.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >most of them feel sorry for her so give her a fighting chance
              The only people that gave her a fighting chance were Bill and Budd. The women tried to kill her.
              >Vernita tries to stab and shoot her
              >Elle tries to stab and poison her
              >Oren uses her gang to try and kill her and then tries to kill her.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I've seen both movie several times and I don't remember any hint about the Viper Assassination Squad splitting up after the massacre at two-pines. Oren quit because she got wealthy / notorious enough to become the Yakuza boss, Vernita got a kid, Elle probably got wealthy enough, and I think Budd got depressed. For them, killing Bea was a tuesday

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Maybe you need to watch them again you stupid frick

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Or maybe you could pull your headcanon out of your fat ass

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >headcanon
                Dumb frick reddit Black person

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Bill now has a baby daughter to care for
                >Bud is disgusted at what they did and has a falling out with Bill
                >O Ren didn't quit, Bill helped set her up in that position
                >Elle becomes Bill's frick buddy
                >Vernita quits and marries a doctor
                This all took place after the massacre and at least 3 of the outcomes were a direct result of what happened that day. Maybe you should try watching without playing on your phone, homosexual.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why would some half-Jap who works for the Yakuza know where this useless drunk bum lived anyways?
    How did she know where any of the old gang was? And how did the Bride know that torturing her would get her that info?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's not hard to believe they were still in contact, even if not working closely together.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This dude absolutely sucks in movies.
    His voice is a gimmick that is long played out.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Reservoir Dogs and Hateful Eight are two totally different characters and both scene stealing acting performances

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And they both would have been as good if it was any other actor.
        Mr. Gravel Voice doesn't add anything any other actor couldn't.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          He's the most memorable part for me in both films

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            meh.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why did Bill want to eradicate all the homies so bad bros?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      What scene is that? Is that MJW?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I want to say it's maybe from Big Steve where some normie goes to prison for fraud and I'm certain it's the guy who plays Bill that teaches him to get ready for prison. It could also just be from Kill Bill. I don't know.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Deleted scene from vol 1, it's on the dvd

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            its on the vol 2 dvd actually here it is

            fun scene but I can see why qt didn't include it, it breaks the flow of the story

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Bruh, it was awesome

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                aye, but wouldn't work in the film, their ar a few examples of this for instance their is an entire scene with vince and mia in pulp fiction that was cut, qt released it, its on the pulp fiction dvd but said it doesn't work in the movie he needed to get to the diner and the dance and it slows the whole thing down. He always says he loves these scenes but it just doesn't work in the film for narrative structure and most importantly pace

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      also this scene basically confirms that bill killed o-rens dad, he slings his sword over his should and then plants t on the ground in the exact same way the guy who killed o-rens dad did, also the ring of course

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think Elle is an underrated character. Her litle quips made her very likeable.
    The worst is Vernita by far

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Vernita is barely in it, the opening fight scene eases you into the wackiness of the plot. Two women stabbing each other over cereal. Plus her daughter was the only way we'd get the sequel so...I don't get the hate unless it's just typical Cinemaphile shit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >wackiness
        get fricked

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bea vs Elle > Bea vs O-Ren

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve only watched these movies once, over a decade ago, half-paying attention
    I wish I just watched them, so I could enjoy this thread, but I’m so crammed for time these days

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      just look up "best scenes" on youtube. besides those the rest of the movie is boring filler about superman

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks bro, I’ll give it a shot

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >just be a moronic speedwatcher
        god I hate this timeline

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >powerful characters
    Michael Madsen plays Mickey Rourke

    OH WOW
    > Tarentino hack

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > brother of infamous leader of super assassins.
    > Just hanging out in his trailer in the middle of the Texan shrubland doing his job on the day to day.
    > Not suspicious as frick.
    Also why didn't Uma just blow him up with an RPG or something while he was driving from his job?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      She wanted her vengeance to be personal. Given Beatrix's skills she probably could've killed killed them with guns or bombs or whatever, none of them knew she was coming, she drove right up to O-Ren's car at one point, she could've mowed down the 88 with guns but she chose to sword fight with them, and then O-Ren, Vivica could've just been popped with a glock walking out of her house for all it mattered, but she wanted to look them in the eyes when she killed them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > Beatrix was moronic.
        You could have just said anon.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you are moronic

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Action movie made to be as gruesome and quirky as possible
          >Just use a gun lmao
          Filtered by this 2/5 movie.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what did he

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      mean by this?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        of course wise king fu man is blackpilled too, girl power is celebrated enough in these films, Quentin went easy on them

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's a movie about a mother trying to get her daughter back.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I still don't get why kiddo's name is censored in this scene

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because its fun not knowing her name and just calling her The Bride, exactly how autistic are you?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because Bill keeps calling her Kiddo as a term of endearment, finding out it's her actual name is just a joke

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    pai mei is my favorite character. i like when he says samurai swords are for japanese fat heads

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He was wrong, sumos don't use katanas

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        fat head is probably his chinky way of saying meat head. which is a local term for me that just means moron. so he was really calling them japanese morons

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it was Michael Parks.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you would be my number 1 girl
      >you just read that in his voice
      he delivers lines like no-one else, is he really hard to work with or something? why hasn't this guy been in more stuff?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        he's dead

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          shame

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          and?

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the real question I would like Cinemaphile to answer is how would you defeat the mystery snake box? do you just intuitively know there's a snake in there? or do you open it and dodge it? I'll admit that I would likely be killed by the snake box trick in 3 seconds but luckily, being a dependent alcoholic, my blood is probably just as poisonous as its venom and so the snake would die too. I'm pretty sure it's why I've not had an infection for years now because viruses and bacteria can't survive inside my body.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Snakes strike so insanely fast dodging it isnt really an option unless you get insanely lucky. Mambas are so insanely venomous that a face bite would shut you down within like 30 seconds. And elle was waiting right there for a killshot if somehow bud bested the snake.
      It was a masterstroke

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A halfblood psychic down at the beach tells me not to open it so I don't

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        good point let la'croix open it, its funny as frick when he does

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >ignore mystery oracle on the beach
        >open snake box
        >get bitten
        >snake dies from the amount of alcohol in my bloodstream
        >survive for another 30 seconds since my blood is like water and would take ages to coagulate enough to kill me
        >slice elle's head off

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    His name is Budd and he likes to Chudd.

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