Only Disney could make the return of Vader lame
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Only Disney could make the return of Vader lame
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What was wrong with it? The Vader scenes have been the only good scenes in this shitshow
Vader looks like Dr Evil in that oversized chair.
good compared to the rest of the show is relative. They are still shit.
>The Vader scenes have been the only good scenes
lmao the lighting was poor, the cinematography was lacking, and the dialogue was horseshit.
This. The Vader scenes weren't well made at all. Maybe him killing the civilians adds a little shock value to the character but that's it. Hayden and Ewan are trying real hard to carry the show but they're once again being done dirty.
Turning Vader into the T-800 from T1 is fricking stupid and bad writing.
He's a merciless killing machine in the old canon. He didn't need any inquisitors to slaughter dozens of jedi and thousands of others.
They are still shit when compared to everything else. I swear Disney makes even worse shows than Netflix, and people gives them favorable reviews just because of the name associated to whatever shit they release.
looked like a college film that got a 78% grade
Vader and Obi wan never met between episodes 3 and 4. Having them meet and duel while Obi wan is trying to save Leia is a terrible retcon job. Not to mention the fact that he could have killed Kenobi easily but chose to monologue.
There is nothing to suggest they NEVER met between trilogies, and some lines in the OT ("Obiwan once thought as you do" and "he's more machine now than man") suggest that they could have met post-cyborgification of Vader
What about their words to each other indicates that they had met after Anakin became Vader? "The circle is now complete, when I left you I was but the learner but now I am the master."
Not, "hey the last time we met I whooped your ass". That's what happens when you have a profitable franchise. The execs try to insert as much product as they can not giving a damn if it makes sense or not claiming "it was ambiguous!".
"When I left you" refers to when Vader stopped being his student
at no point in Star Wars (it's not ANH, zoomer) does Obiwan ever suggest that he thinks Vader could be turned back to the light - he only tells him that he's become a "master of evil", and even in Revenge of the Sith Obiwan has next to zero sympathy for Anakin (deserved, because prequel Anakin is a psychotic mass murderer who doesn't deserve redemption, but I digress). In Kenobi, we might see an attempt by Obiwan to reach out to Vader, only to realize that he's too far gone for him to save.
>at no point in Star Wars (it's not ANH, zoomer) does Obiwan ever suggest that he thinks Vader could be turned back to the light
Then it's referring back to the prequels on Mustafar where he's trying to tell him Palpatine is evil
Glad you realized you were completely wrong about the machine than man quote
at no point does Obiwan express any sympathy or real attempt to reach out to Anakin in Revenge of the Sith
>Chancellor Palpatine is evil
>From my point of view the Jedi are evil
>Then you are lost!
He only thought he was lost forever during the fight once Anakin turned down the Jedi once more. Keep trying to defend your shitty mouse trash lol
Yeah I'm sure Obiwan saying that Sheev is evil was really a concerted effort to save Anakin to the point Vader would remember it with a resigned sigh 25 years later
You just invented a headcanon that it was definitive, demonstrably stated in the original films that Vader and Obiwan never met between trilogies and refusing anything that deviates from the headcanon you invented becuase DISNEY BAD REEEEEEEE
btw you will never have sex
You're autistic, it's not just in the lines of dialogue as written (although it actually is in there), it's also in the performance
god I miss this more grounded and realistic lightsaber dueling, instead of all the flippy cancer thats been happening for the last 30 years.
I think it makes the lightsabers come off as more deadly when you see them being so cautious and trying to feign and bait attacks.
TLJ had good lightsaber fights.
Yes I am aware of the wacky shit in the background and the dissapearing knife. I don't care. The scene is still kino.
If Return of the Jedi came out today and there were people with an agenda to prove the film as "illegitimate" as a means of proving their fan credentials over the "fake fans" you'd have people posting Webms of the Force Kick and Vader falling down for no reason and going OH NONONONONONO
Also at the very end when Luke goes nuts and starts hacking at Vader and cuts his hand off, Vader just fricking sits down and starts leaning against a rail for no reason whatsoever.
He's meant to shift quickly and use the rail to catch himself. He's also too spent to recover so Luke wails on him.
>lightsaber can cut through anything
>bounces off a thin railing
OH NONONONONONO BRAVO MARQUAND
vader is an old ass man who relies on a heavy suit as 3 of his four limbs. it makes sense why he would falter so easily going up against a powerful jedi who is still in his prime
considering how much pain that suit has and after my "hand" got chopped off, yes I would be leaning on that railing
I don't even like ROTJ but Vader and The Emporer were trying to bait Luke to the dark side. Try paying attention to the movie next time?
>If Return of the Jedi came out today and there were people with an agenda to prove the film as "illegitimate" as a means of proving their fan credentials over the "fake fans" you'd have people posting Webms of the Force Kick and Vader falling down for no reason and going OH NONONONONONO
And they’d be right, RotJ sucks
No it didn't
Swinging lightsabers like baseball bats isn't good
So BAD. It’s sooooooo fricking bad bros.
That red dude closest to the viewer literally goes out of his way NOT to swing at marysue.. and instead, after his silly pointless spin, he locks his weapon against his partner’s spear for absolutely no reason.
What an unmitigated disaster.
Disney is fricking cancer. I despise what they’ve now completely and irredeemably done to this once beloved and widely cherished IP. Fricking rat israelite bastards.
TLJ had the worst yet. The throne room was laughably bad, even worse than yoda duels from the prequels, and the luke vs ren fight was idiotic.
The more fast pace stuff worked in the phantom menace, but it jumped the shark in attack of the clones and never recovered.
7 had a decent realistic lightsabere fight
The flamboyance of the prequels fights make sense though
they're boring and soulless
They're the definition of soul
the only one that has any emotional weight to it at all between the characters is obi-wan vs anakin and it goes on for too long with terrible dialog
Obi-Wan vs Maul had just as much weight
They're actually good and only OT fans blinded bu nostalgia think otherwise and no kids even watched the sequels.
>obi-wan vs maul had just as much weight
>a fight with a character who literally has a single line in the film and no personality whatsoever, purely existing to sell toys of a double lightsaber has weight
He literally just killed his master
So? There's no actual character. You could've replaced Darth Maul with a random monster and nothing about the fight changes.
how I don't have the means to replace anything in the movies, I don't even know how to use after effects
If Darth Maul was replaced with Reva I'm sure the scene would be just as great, and more powerful because the racial battle is the true duel of the fates
This is such a stupid argument. It's like saying no scene in Jurassic park has any weight or tension because we don't know the dinosaurs personality, same for every horror movie, natural disaster or detective film, even many sci films like Predator and the Terminator too.
We know the two protagonists and the more powerful of the two got killed by the antagonist. We also know that maul is a sith and everything that's associated with that. You don't need to know the antagonist thoroughly for it to have weight since we know the protagonists and its their struggle we care about.
Weight is the wrong word, character drama between the duelists would be better. Something previous Lightsaber fights had and the Maul vs Obi-Wan fight completely lacks since Maul has no character whatsoever.
Changing Maul changes the story. I doubt people would like his fight in Phantom as much as they do if he was a weird type of alien monster or something. No. He's played by a badass martial artist and designed to have a certain look so that the audience intuits his ruthless nature. There's an intention behind every choice in George's film making. It's not perfect and obviously merchandising was part of George's intention, but to claim Maul needs a super deep character to make the Duel of the Fates more impactful misses the point entirely. It's a character point for Obi Wan.
Maul is designed the way he was on purpose by Lucas. Because when you add up Maul, Dooku and Grievous you get Vader.
Maul is the obedient enforcer clad in black that doesn't talk much and has a sinister presence.
Dooku is a fallen jedi + his cape and the chain that holds it + fencing style fighting and imposing stature.
Grievous is a mechanized cyborg with labored breathing due to an injury with a skull-like face plate.
Combine these three and you get visual and character traits of Vader. That was their purpose. None of them had much development for a reason. They were facets of what was to come in the saga.
I agree. I say we're both correct.
You should watch that filoni video on why the prequels are genius.
The Maul fight was a masterpiece.
It showed the duality of Obi-Wan, who was cautious and defensive, and Qui-Gon, who was reckless and aggressive, as well as the massive disconnect in their ways of thinking and thus their fighting styles.
Qui-Gon getting led by the nose by Maul to run off without Obi-Wan demonstrates not just Maul's power and cunning but also why none of the other Masters, Qui-Gon's supposed friends, trusts him.
Qui-Gon and Maul in the light cages represented not only the serenity/impatience paradigm, but also the acceptance of loss/and the hunger for victory.
Obi-Wan's explosion of emotions causing him to abandon his cautious fighting style and taking the disadvantage because of it.
Obi-Wan gaining the victory only by patiently waiting for Maul to lower his guard and exploiting something Maul had overlooked.
Watch the duel portions of the phantom menace making of documentary and tell me those fights are soulless. You've gotta be kidding
>("Obiwan once thought as you do" and "he's more machine now than man"
Holy frick those lines are from Return of the Jedi and refer to their meeting in ANH, you DUMB ASS DUDE
>There is nothing to suggest they NEVER met between trilogies
Nice pilpul. This is how Disney essentially lawyers its way around existing lore to churn out these side stories and retcons while completely going against the spirit of the original movies.
Let me guess. You also liked Rogue One because “the corridor scene was so badass bro!”
>Soi Wars
I am so fricking tired of hearing about this played out 70's B movie
He's pretty lame in RotS, too.
this. Hayden has always been a shitty gay. no presence.
>"When I left you, I was but the learner. Now I am the master..."
>"...well except that one time kicked your ass on that mining planet lmao"
>I was but the learner.
I hope this is your piss poor grammer and vocabulary, not the actual script.
>piss poor grammer
>grammer
every time
>esl
>grammer
Dumb ESL.
please stay in your containment thread
We will not, take your containment thread and shove it up your ass.
>We
who the frick is we? youre discord troony group?
Just learn how to filter threads, newbie
>literal who ethnic woman comes along and saves Obi Wan from Darth Vader and a unit of Storm troopers despite just having a blaster
Lol, they really are shameless.
well what do you expect vader and the stormtroopers to do?
there was fire inbetween them and obiwan... FIRE
now laserbarriers, blastershots, etc. that is no problem for vader, but FIRE. what was he supposed to do?
>vader just force pulling him around in the fire he starts
>lady starts fire and for some reason he cant just force push the droid over anymore.
I almost responded to this angrily before I saw the “FIRE” kek
I haven't seen it, but someone said it was ptsd from being burned alive? Is that just shill cope or
Didn’t they do exactly this in Fallen Order too? Maybe the ethnic chick had a lightsaber instead but other than that I think it’s the same scenario.
yes the intro mission has some nappy headed Black person flying a space ship in and saving the white man from the space inquisition
No right at the end doesnt she save the kid (again) from Vader?
I caught up with the show yesterday, and I'm fine with the visual ''cheapness'' of it, but especially in the last episode I would've hoped they gave Vader some new iconic lines instead of tired villain cliches.
OH NO!!!!! NOT 6 FT OF FLAMEARINO'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHATS A JEDI SUPPOSED TO DO
It's mostly the score, I'm not sure what they are doing.
>That moment where the moronic keyboard player attempts a casio keyboard rendition of Duel of Fates into the track for memberberries
Its so pathetic...so fricking amateurish
I fricking hate fandom culture, they ruin everything.
The fans just consume.. They have nothing to do with it.
Their consumption is the absolute, singular core of the problem. If there was no market for this garbage, it wouldn't be happening. You are at fault.
They consume any old recycled shit that's fed to them. They are everything to do with it.
If it requires no effort on the creator to entertain its core audience then they will continue to make zero effort to make decent content.
I actually look at SW fans as the most moronic and easiest to please fandom of all.
If it has
>Lightsabers
>Quotes from the original trilogy
>Repeated film score
>Darth Vader
>Gonk Droid
>Some mildly different mod of a pre existing ship design
>Sand planet
These c**ts want nothing new. No risk. No inventiveness. No creativity. Just the same old same old. Easy money.
it requires no effort on your part to just be an angry little boy who histrionically hates absolutely everything released in order to prove yourself as a "real fan" over the consoomers
ok consoomer
>>Gonk Droid
The one thing that could redeem this show after the third episode ruined it...
>omg it's heckin darth vaderino!!!!!
stay on your drugs, gramps, nobody asked.
agreed, hitler-sama
"I AM WHAT YOU MADE ME!" what is this gay ass writing
Chris Stuckmann tier screenwriting
I am starting to believe the conspiracy theory that they pay AI's chicken nuggets to write these scripts.
That's because they do it fricking repeatedly and it's always treated as an Ebin return.
He always feels like a memberberry rather than a character
Star Wars would be better off with HBO at this point.
Except Disney made the best Vader scene in Star Wars history. Cope.
rogue one is what statisticians call an "outlier"
>rogue one is what statisticians call an "outlier"
its literally in the film title. also the film itself was shit with only one good scene
I can garentee you that was because of the director and not Disney
Rogue One is what people with taste call “shit.”
wrong, a youtuber mogged this scene
That shit looks terrible.
So which is it?
Give it half a minute and you'll know.
holy kino
Wow, it's so soulless & pretentiously overchreographed, undermining the slow paced tension of the original.
This.
Lmao this is pure reddit fricking garbage.
This goes to show people can’t even understand the CHILD LEVEL CONCEPTS of fricking Star Wars.
It’s over.
I was watching some jeremy jahns video earlier and he was talking about how great this fan video was. It was horrific tacky trash.
As George Lucas said, I've discovered that most critics themselves are cinematically illiterate.
Star Wars can't win. Even the Mandalorian which is regarded as the best post Lucas stuff generally gets shit on here on Cinemaphile.
Vader should have held down the a button to force jump...you know. While attempting to extinguish the last embers of his eternal soul by brutally murdering the only thing he loves in a horrifyingly sadistic act of vengence.
Exactly, or he should have said "Metal legs b***h" and walked through the flames to cut obi wan down.
It couldn't possibly be that he was having a blatantly obvious moment of conflict between Anakin and Vader as he stood there staring across the fire.
Many many people think they understand film, it’s a medium that encompasses many different mediums. just watching the film is fine but you need to study everything around it to understand what you’re talking about.
You could argue this is why modern films, student films and the like are trash, it’s not just the immediate that make s a film.
Shits fricked brah
homies be acting like Lucas wouldn't have made the Vader v Obi-Wan fight very similar to this if he made the OT at the same time he made the prequels
>Lucas would have added lens flare, arc shots, shaky cam, explosions, etc. to make it look like a Mortal Kombat cinematic
Choreography, maybe, cinematography, absolutely not.
This is SW fans these days. Nuance and visual storytelling is not a concept they follow..it just has to be pew pewwww!
The slow pace of their fight in A New Hope had a fricking point.
The irony of this statement coming from someone hyping up the Vader scene in Rogue One.
This is one of the most embarrassing fan creations I've ever seen. Imagine missing the point this much.
this is basically evidence for why kenobi is bad, not because this scene is good, but both are at the same low quality and actively shits on SW camera work and purpose.
this scene was made by someone who collects plastic toys. I forget what you call those sissy little things.
this scene was incredible and Rogue one was great.
Kathleen is too involved and put dumb women in charge.
The fight choreography is good, but the editing is stylistically terrible. If you inserted this shit into the full movie, it would stick out like a sore thumb. It ruins the effect of one of the most gut-wrenching moments in the franchise by turning it into this over-the-top capeshit. There’s a reason why even in the prequels, none of the main characters just get unceremoniously cut down by lightsaber and die. The dubbed-in Vader lines are also too corny for that scene.
You can tell this was made by a redditor.
Sorry, but that has been btfo'd: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0oQtGCtnF2Y
kek auralnauts are legendary
The IQ of the general population must be dropping because despite having better technology available the fan films of today have gotten worse because the fan film makers don't understand anything about Star Wars.
well since you seem to know so well it shouldn't be that hard to explain what they are getting wrong here?
You're right it wouldn't be difficult
kek, b***hed out like I knew you would. good bye
It's not supposed to be a grand fight. Ben is an old man who decides to spiritually transcend in order to strengthen Luke's resolve and his connection to the force. Making it into some big blockbuster fight completely ruins the intention of the scene
>The IQ of the general population must be dropping
Of course it is.
Have you not seen the highly touted and celebrated data (by leftists and other untermensch) highlighting the “glorious victory” of shitskins taking over huge percentages of the populations in all western nations. The number of whites is decreasing as a percentage — of course IQs are plummeting.
Never be confused: equality for leftists and shitskins IS NOT bringing everyone UP to the higher capacity and accomplishments of whites in their white-settled and developed nations, it’s the movement of those in positions of success and progress being brought DOWN to the lowly state of the vermin that sadly we are forced to live amongst.
Equality and equity to these disgusting lower life forms is the destruction of things and ways of being and living that they are all genetically incapable of attaining.
There’s no ambiguity in this matter.
You're not wrong
and then after that the mystique was gone
>and then after that the mystique was gone
no, there was still a lot unanswered
>4:31
I could hear the basedgasm in the audience.
Gareth Edwards made the only kino Star Wars movie and they fired him.
*kino DISNEY Star Wars movie
put your pitchforks down
Frick yourself.
This scene was shit and out of character for Vader.
>HOW DARE YOU CALL THIS SCENE SHIT, YOU MUST BE A TROON!
I'm not the one calling Disneywars kino, homosexual mouseshill.
Disney wars is peak troony you homosexual.
>if you don’t like micky mouse trash then it is You who is the troony
>checkmate
Why does this thread have so many morons exposing themselves?
No, the best Vader scene was when he was kneeling for Saint Floyd, chud.
Checked
>I can’t br- er, ... stand this fricking SAND!!!!!!!
moronic fanservice shit that didn’t even make logical sense. Vader killing a bunch of weaklings in a flamboyant way isn’t in character. He would have sent stormtroopers to deal with them rather than draw his lightsaber.
while I agree it was fanservice.. he was rushing to get the plans.
yeah he was rushing so much he walked slowly towards the guy and used none of his force powers to pull him away from the door
Fair.. faster than stormtroopers thou.
The concept of “less is more” is lost on most zoomers. But this is Lucas’ fault. He had CGI organism with his prequels. Having Yoda bouncing around like Sonic The Hedge Hog for example
I don't understand why you blame zoomies for the actions of the X and Yes who made these.
Lucas was always about pushing the boundaries of special effects technology. All Disney Wars does is rehash old shit for fanservice in the cheapest way possible.
Lucas is the reason why we have soulless marvel shit shot entirely on soundstages in front of blue/greenscreens lol
There were soulless movies before attack of the clones
incels will defen this.
All the technology in the world couldn't give him biological children....
Fan service crap. It was just as bad.
I like good fanservice and I'm tired of pretending it's not kino.
Frick you all, episode 3 was blatant vader porn and I loved every minute of it.
If you are impressed by CGI then go watch capeshit.
what a moronic thing to say
Go cry about it with your funko pops
>if you appreciate CGI you must also like capeshit
makes no sense
How so? That’s what modern cinema is. CGI action scenes to impress the simple minded. Usually done through the guise of capeshit. That Rogue One scene is just more of that. No character, no substance, just a bunch of pretty lights and colours to please the spastics.
imagine being this pretentious on an anonymous basket weaving forum
is he not wrong?
What does CGI have to do with it?
I'm here to watch Hayden stomping around in a suit and having emotional conflicts after going on a killing spree as far as fan service goes.
Are you simply moronic?
Why would Vader have emotional conflicts? The real Vader hated Obi-Wan more than anyone else in the galaxy. Nu-Vader may be a different story.
Rouge One sucks you Black person. Go back.
This was a great scene.
Rogue One was a good film and showed promise for disney wars. Then they shit the bed in literally every single thing they’ve done since
Nah.
i have no idea how you can have all the resources in the world, and you've made SW's the exact same shit as marvel. it's annoying.
you think i enjoyed seeing what they did with BoBF? that was absolutely awful.
>i have no idea how you can have all the resources in the world, and you've made SW's the exact same shit as marvel. it's annoying.
Wtf is this “supposed” to mean?
All things disney wars since rogue one (and that was pretty good, not great) has been trash. There’s no debate.
Disney has effectively killed this IP. What’s being slogged out for kids and the severely autistic at this point has no business even being called Star Wars.
Rogue One was the worst of them all
Oh, I think I understand what you’re saying, and if so, then I agree.
You can disregard this
then
What did you like about rogue one that wasn’t this gay ass fan service scene?
If you found this scene impressive then you are a fricking simpleton and that’s all there is to it. Please never complain about films if you enjoy this. You are the reason they are all so shit now.
Darth Vader lives on Mustafar, a lava planet. You might imagine that his suit is atleast somewhat heat resistant or fire moronant.
Dark Helmet would have been better in this.
ok boomer
>Only Disney could make the return of Vader lame
seriously it's shocking how bad this show is.
It’s amazing
Seethe away , I’m loving all this keyboard hammering from fat autistic riddled mongs
>drags some shitskin out his window and chokes him out
>throws his son against the wall and uses Force Neck Snap
Seriously this Vader would've just killed Leia.
He only didn't immediately kill her because she had important information...
The writers think Vader would just kill any kid because of Episode 2 and 3 but there was a logic behind why he did that it wasn't just him going crazy
this is now the 4th of 5th low iq iphone posted disney plus thread in the last hour
Ive been liking the show but only because im watching it when im falling asleep and tuning out for half the scenes
/dis/ - Disney Plus and Marvel
It's not the first time he returned
Move out of your parents house already. Shit like this doesn't matter and this isn't your blog homosexual
Kino confirmed
They lifted this shit directly from Jedi Fallen Order.
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO HOLY SHIT IT'S WORSE THAN I THOUGHT
Vader didn't need to be in this
you homosexuals were lame for asking for Vader back in the first place, it was cringy as frick edgelord 12yo Shadow the Hedgehog deviantart shit when he appeared in Rogue One and its just as awful here, you Black folk are to blame for everything bad to happen to star wars because you beg for the same cringy shit and when Disney gives you exactly what you ask for you whine like wienerless malding 40 year old manchildren
>I want Obi Wan show
>ogey here is Obi Wan without his balls
Wow yes they gave me exactly what I wanted
Unbearably based
>you can’t bring a beloved character back into an ongoing movie franchise unless you do it in a fricking moronic and unimpressive way. And then if it sucks and you’re disappointed then it’s actual you who are too blame for not accepting the shit they put in front of you.
Wow, big brain take there. Up fricking voted. Take my gold please kind and wise stranger
>tfw they will make Quinlan Vos black or white instead of native
I think it was the only redeeming point of the entire episode
>you homosexuals were lame for asking for Vader back in the first place, it was cringy as frick edgelord 12yo Shadow the Hedgehog deviantart shit when he appeared in Rogue One and its just as awful here, you Black folk are to blame for everything bad to happen to star wars because you beg for the same cringy shit and when Disney gives you exactly what you ask for you whine like wienerless malding 40 year old manchildren
They gave him the power of teleportation now as well, always a really bad sign when they start teleporting people all over the shop.
>Small fire shields
>How did this happen?
>I'm smarter than this
>When last we met I was but the master. Now I am the master!
nakadashi
Story comes first. In a decent show this scene would pass with only minor memeing as it would be part of an episode without woke shit everywhere.
>Story comes first.
If that was true, this series would have never been made. Obi-Wan going off on some adventure where he saves Leia and Vader's actively fighting him totally undercuts the OT and blasts apart ANH. The people in control here don't give a frick about this sort of thing, but it's so depressing to see.
They just want to see these "characters" fight like action figures.
I unironically think that if Vader just popped in and spawned in front of Kenobi as if someone was typing in a video game console cheat code and they started fighting then 80% of the Disney audience wouldn't care that he came out of nowhere and would orgasm over the fight.
You're totally right. A dumb shit I knew was so TOTALLY STOKED on The Book of Boba Fett because he RODE A RANCOR SO COOL and FOUGHT WITH MANDO AWWW YEAH at the end. I felt like I was taking crazy pills every time I heard someone praise it, and I feel that way again here. The premise is fundamentally fricked and shits all over what made the original story great.
Weak men will never rule the Empire
>The return of Vader
What about rogue one? That was pure wankery for you Vader fans
simple as
>I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but the learner. Now, I am the master. Excluding that time I burnt you on some mining planet.
Where was the Imperial fricking March??!?!??!
didn't want to pay Lucas $0.02 to use it
They own it. He gets no royalties dumbass
Soo then why didnt they use it, brainiac?
It only exists from ESB forwards
where can I get a stream or DDL of this, I don't want to torrent
Low budget, lame, dorky and shit.
omg its that IP i recognize from my childhood.. again!!
Anyone got the webm of obi wan comically running away from vader when he first sees him?
Implying this wasn't basically channeling Alec Guinness
Disney's S oy wars is fan fiction
The fact that people have to nitpick the vagueness of dialogue to justify this fan show is pretty telling.
This is inevitable with any longrunning franchise. Obiwan's "from a certain point of view" is in-universe rationalization of the same idea. The prequels contradict the original films left and right.
The only difference is that you were a toddler when those movies came out and you're an adult now
the difference is you have the original creator changing things here and there vs the guy who bought the work and used some crayons to edit it.
>Muh lucas was the sole auteur behind the entirety of Star Wars and no one else is ever allowed to do anything with it!
Lemme guess, you're the same person who complains that Disney won't "take risks" but then in the same breath b***h and moan whenever they deviate from your own personal interpretation of the franchise, lmao
that's cute of you, but "taking a risk" these days means making something new. So no. Disney would never.
Do I call you a boot licker or just a shill?
If you hate the idea of even a minor deviation like Obiwan and Vader meeting before trilogies (and I'm sure I already know your feelings about TLJ) a movie that takes actual risks would probably make you have a stroke lmao
god forbid I expect quality anymore, or else you shills come out from your caves for pennies on the dollar.
>The prequels contradict the original films left and right.
Post some examples of how they contradict then. Shouldn’t be too hard for you.
>Imperial High Command doubts the power of the Force even though all of these guys took part in the Clone Wars that happened not even 20 years previously, in which the Jedi served a highly publicized role on the frontlines and had a temple right next to the Space Congress
>Leia having memories of her mother who died in childbirth
>Yoda was the Jedi Master who instructed me...oh wait by that I mean I did some lightsaber training in a large class, my actual master was Laim Neeson
>Obiwan says in RotJ that he was the one who found Anakin
>Vader built C3PO, doesn't care when they're in the same room in ESB
>Uncle Owen lived with C3PO for years, but forgot about him entirely by the time he re-purchased him from the Jawas
>Obiwan doesn't remember R2D2
>Han openly dismisses the idea of the Force, Chewie doesn't bother to chime in even though he was best friends with Yoda
And these are only the *direct* contradictions, these aren't getting into things that are absurd to have never been pointed out in the OT, like Boba Fett being the template for the entire Clone Army or the "Chosen One" prophecy.
Sure, sure, you'll come up with post-facto rationalizations and jump through hoops to justify all of this, and then whine about me doing the same thing with Kenobi because REEEEE DISNEY made it lmao
Autist
>Imperial high command doubts the power of the force
Makes sense at scale. A few thousand sensatives get steamrolled in hours. compare this to a galaxy sized war machine. Vader being able to strangle his comrades with his mind is just a sadistic party trick with no meaning to serious people.
People still remember things from 20+ years ago. Jedi and the force were around for thousands of years. They don't just disappear from hearts and minds that easily.
But the people who usurped the jedi by murdering 99 percent of them within 20 minutes had every reason and motive to roll their eyes at a crazy old cripple who bragged he could win wars "by the powa of da fowce!!!!"
That doesn't make any sense, with how they're portrayed in the prequels the Jedi are basically demi-gods. Sure I can maybe buy Han doubting it if I suspend my disbelief since he might've been very young and on some backwater planet far away from the war, but high level officials being dubious about these famous heroes who were leading armies not 20 years ago? Stupid.
the only people who would really have any reverence for jedi are the clones since they worked with them first hand. Everyone else in the galaxy probably just thought they were stories even back then.
They have video and holograms. Their feats would have been highly publicized. They were in such a presitigous position that they were basically running the war. There's no way people thought their abilities were "just stories".
not the abilities themselves, the the magnitude of their power. No one doesn't believe vader can choke people, but its just not that impressive compared to everything else in their lives. The fact that they were mostly wiped out in an afternoon probably made a lot of people question their power.
Well yes and that makes sense when the Jedi's power in the OT were basically limited to lifting small objects, mind tricks and focus. The Force was mostly an intangible element, things like Luke turning off his guidance system or Leia sensing him.
Super powerful things like Yoda lifting the X-wing ( with great concentration ) or Sidious and his lightning was exceptionally rare.
The prequels ruined this by making pretty much every Jedi able to do a triple backflip and run at super speed and effortlessly lift boulders at the tip of a hat so much so that it's absurd anyone wouldn't believe they were powerful. The amount of power they've given Vader post OT because he was popular makes half the scenes with him in those movies barely make sense.
>exceptionally rare.
yeah...
I’m sick of this plebbit argument. Watch the scene from the 1977 movie again. Admiral Motti never said the Force doesn’t exist. He just says that the Death Star is the ultimate power in the universe, and he taunts Vader by correctly saying the Force hasn’t helped him find the stolen Death Star plans or the hidden rebel base.
well there's also han who is so jaded by obi wan and luke's enthusiasm
But his entire character is being pessimistic and wienery.
don't get wienery kid
m-muh prequels
It's so obvious you've never actually watched them and just parrot RLM
>you've never watched them
They're some of the most widely seen movies ever, who the frick hasn't seen them you moron? It's obvious you were just like 10 when they came out so you're just notalgia gayging over them. In 20 years I bet similar types of homosexuals to you will be praising the Disney movies.
I hope someone does a realistic 3d animation of finn and rose saber fighting in a hallway
>who the frick hasn't seen them you moron?
you've seen them, but have you really watched them?
I can’t wait for zoomers to grow up and make YouTube videos about how Rose was actually the best character in the franchise. Maybe that would give the prequel contrarians some pause for thought. It won’t though because they’re all moronic.
At scale. The galaxy has many quadrillions compared to 2650 force users. Maybe they were somewhat celebrity. But the masses can be bullied and gaslit out of a consensus within a few years. Kind of an interesting topic given the times we live in.
>be Vader Emo person-choking for status
>be any high ranking officer in command doing galactic logistics to keep a mind-boggling sized machine running efficiently to keep territorial control of untold commercial wealth while watching Vader acting like a spastic moron killing seasoned officers not easily replaced for no reason
...and that, my friends, is WW2 in a nutshell for Russia or Germany or Japan.
All of that is either inconsequential, doesn’t actually contradict the OT, or is a complete misrepresentation. It’s nothing on the scale of having Obi-Wan and Vader duel between Episodes III and IV, let alone Vader letting Obi-Wan escape when he could have easily killed him. Defending Disney’s glorified fanfiction this much is just pathetic.
>Obiwan doesn't remember R2D2
He was clearly bullshitting. Even before the prequels came out, there was an implication he recognizes R2-D2. Everything else you mentioned is spot on, though. Owen living with C-3P0 is the worst.
Why would Owen remember some random droid that belonged to his dead stepmom over 20 years ago? It would be like someone in the real world recognizing his dead mom’s car (that had been repainted) by the VIN number 20 years later.
Yeah PT ruined the setting and only complete morons claim otherwise. Luke "hiding" on Tatooine is the most moronic thing.
How so? Obi-Wan thought Vader was dead, and Tatooine was not even part of the Empire at that time.
>doesn't remember R2D2 or C3PO
Do you remember your toaster from 10 years ago? These robots were mass produced.
Plus, I've seen other C3PO models around. It was likely a kit and Anikan built him from that
>Doubting the force
That would have been a really good scene to open the show. Kenobi's working in the factory, and at lunch time in the canteen he's next to a couple of workers talking about the Jedi. One of them argues that the Force is a myth, they just took kids, trained them from birth, and kitted them out with the best gear, and let myth do the rest. The other guy is arguing that it's the imperials saying that and they would have reason to lie about it. after some back and forth they ask Kenobi, if he ever ran into a Jedi during the clone wars. Kenobi looks distant and says "The Jedi were not all they seemed and not all they thought they were..."
You establish that the Empire has been doing everything they can to blacken the name of the Jedi, and the idea of the Force.
NO LUKE, I AM TRANS++++BBQ
>NOOOOOOOOOO!
Have you watched the prequels sweatie?
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>OH NO THE FLOOR IS LAVA AND I HATE LAVA!!
im less mad with vader and more with the moronic "campaign" to make it seem like theres a race issue. vader is fine, i'm always down to see more vader content
kenobi is okay.
>content
You fricking c**ts that just want shit shoveled into your mouth are the reason everything is so terrible. "me want content unga bunga". You could give a shit *what* it is, just that there is something to consume. No standards. Frick you.
Obi will get a bang on the head or something at the end to handwave stuff
Obi and Vader accidentally headbutt eachother in a duel which knocks them out and makes them forget the events of the show, calling it
Vader has been ruined since the prequels, anything else is just pissing in an already desecrated grave.
>mfw I realized Star Wars only lives on through tabletop homebrews and cosplaying, and that’s honestly for the best
OH MAH GAAAAWSH IT'S SOOOO BAD! N-NO! SHUT UP! STOP LIKING IIIIIIT!!!!
so did vader let him go on purpose or is disney moronic enough to think fire could stop him
The fact he could walk up 5 feet to his left and around the fire in under 30 seconds but we as viewers are supposed to believe it’s some impenetrable obstacle says all you need to see/understand/know about this latest disney PRODUCT = they know their fans are stupid and immature, willing to accept sub-marginal storylines, acting, direction, dialogue, cinematography, bad production value. Zero continuity, glaring inconsistencies, and nonsensical ridiculousness (eg le fire that for literally no reason whatsoever somehow can’t be walked around) is all totally fine by disney because it’s all totally fine by their little children and severely autistic fan base.
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oh boy i wonder what space wonders we'll see in the new star wars show!
>TATTOOINE
jews love the desert so much thats why they need billions of dollars of foreign aid to defend it from palestinian kids with rocks.
Why do they keep making his lenses so red?
because thats how you know he's evil
Because his lenses are red in ANH
>The more fast pace stuff worked in the phantom menace, but it jumped the shark in attack of the clones and never recovered.
It recovered just fine. RoTS is kino
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of all the Star Wars throw up that have come out, how is it that the "the rogue one" is one of the best. the vader slaughter was great. everything else coming from disney/star wars is pure shit
>I will use this fire I started to torture you.
Tortures Obi-Wan and puts out fire
Fire gets restarted
>Oh no, the same fire is in my way and I can't get to you.
i could probably do better
Tortures a villager, breaks a kid's neck, tries to cook obi wan like a hot dog...yeah, how lame.
>Only Disney could make the return of Vader lame
One word: NOOOOOOOooooooooo…..
I thought desny could have dan better?
Darth Vader running into Obi Wan kind of ruins New Hope
yes but it really isn't the matter of ANH. that encounter is gone but you could assume this is a small encounter and the one on the death star was them both finally battling
probably a youngling who escaped in the start of the show. watch,
If Reva knew that Vader and Anakin Skywalker are the same person, Vader would have probed her mind and killed her to keep the secret. Thinking otherwise shows a fundamental misunderstanding of the franchise. It’s bad writing.
it's really stupid, and if reva is technically indoctrinated, then wouldn't she not say anakin? I genuinely don't get how she's gonna work. you have three episodes left, and all you can ask is to flesh her out better than a really mediocre "warriors come out and play" moment and her acting like a sped
It's how I know it's not going to get any better. There is no way in 2 hours and 15 minutes that they will be able to get Leia home, explain Reva's backstory, heal Obi Wan, have him regain confidence and train, fight Vader/Inquisitors again, and escape what is probably Mustafar and have it be presented well or make sense.
it needs more time to be fleshed out if anything. that is what matters most for any story. hell this could be a story about nonsense, and you need more time to do that.
That’s why these miniseries suck. You think you’re getting more content, but really they are just flinging shit at the wall to stall for time. There’s no sense of gravitas or subtlety, because they have to try to hook people right away to keep audiences watching every episode. Do you really think they would have blown their load with a duel between Vader and Obi-Wan at the halfway point if this had been a feature film? There’s no sense of danger or urgency in this series anyway, since we know all the pre-Disney characters will survive regardless of what happens. It’s all very contrived.
I bleive that darth vader and obi one meeting into each other sort of ruins New Hope
>this is the epic comeback from modern day disney and soî wars fans.
kek enjoy your products, NPC
Can someone who’s watched this shitshow explain how the black chick knows that Vader used to be Anakin Skywalker?
>Vader killed all the younglings in the Jedi temple except for this random girl he decided to train
>he presumably doesn’t know that she knows his true identity, even though we know he can read Luke’s thoughts in ROTJ
Inquisitors were always a stupid and unnecessary addition, but this takes the cake.
>chilling in his bacta tank
>holo-call coming through
>we found Kenobi at this shithole planet
>okay let me suit up
>suits up for like 2 hours
>gets in his shuttle
>shuttle docks to star destroyer
>take me to planet shithole NOW
>hypespace jump
>arrive at shithole planet
>have to listen to groveling asskissers the whole way through
>inquisitors are kissing my ass some more
>land
>choke random civilians
>okay Kenobi is here, go time
>wtf he's weak as shit is this even real
>have to fight him in a SAND lot
>I'll at least burn him
>someone is shooting at us sigh
>this is pathetic
>some random droid is carrying him away in slow motion and they think I can't just stop them from over here, 10 feet away
>you know what frick this
>walk back to shuttle
>have to mildly choke anyone who addresses me
>have to mildly choke anyone who addresses me on my star destroyer
>hyperspace back
>take shuttle to land on mustafar
>take suit off for 2 hours
>hop into bacta tank
>holo on dnd
>abstract feel
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Darth Vader has been completely demystified and it stinks. That shit with Hayden putting on the mask in the bacta tank was the last straw. Tbf, this shit started with the prequels. One of the reasons the OT is great as a stand alone trilogy is the fact you don't exactly know Anakin's origins and that adds an aura of mystique to the character and allows you to imagine the different possibilities. But nope, now we get this trash.
>Tbf, this shit started with the prequels
nah the prequels were great
Better than this Disney trash, that's for certain. Jar Jar is a unironically a better written character than Rey.
based filoni gets it
I don't like what he's made but yeah it's clear he understands the brilliance of the prequels
>Tbf, this shit started with the prequels
we saw his face in ROTJ
yes, after a three movie build up of anticipation.
I like Reva
Hate the shaky cam, hate the garbage coreography, especially the random whacking Vader started doing. Also hate the wide shots showing just how limited the movement of Vader is.
Gif related is the only halfway decent looking part of the fight for me.
star war they game with the two show that space jedi had always wanted to they can 5 years ago