>Paul Atreides
>AKA Muad'Dib
>AKA the Mahdi
>AKA Usul
>AKA Lisan al-Gaib
>AKA the Kwisatz Bubblebath
Jesus Christ Herbert it's just a main character
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He cute.
SOILENCE!!!!
ONIONS!!!
I want that twink obliterated
He who can destroy a twink has the real control of him.
Being the Kneesocks Hackensack is the only one that matters
>the obviously israeli messiah title is the only one that matters
find Yeshua.
Feels like this wasn’t played up that much in DUNC 1 and 2
I assume it wasn't as emphasized because they still aren't sure if the are adapting past the first book where it wasn't as important
to be the quiznos bandersnatch must be a real burden though
>the stillsuit has little nose clips to collect every last molecular vapor of water that you might breathe out
>never mind the fact that you would lose a shit ton more water through your mouth every time you opened it to talk
In the books the stillsuit covers the whole face. The movies ignore this so they can act
The point the author was driving home was that fanatically following some random dude is bad. He had to write the sequels and invent a literal personification of tyranny in the sequels to explain it to the plebs that didn’t get it the first time.
>fanatically follow some random dude
>he organizes your people more strongly than ever
>he mobilizes you against your oppressors more effectively than ever
>he takes back your home and ensures the safety and independence of your people and homeworld
Wait, where's the bad part?
The bad part comes in when humanity drives itself to extinction from constant tribal warfare and depleting of resources. If you though Herbert was depicting religious warlord leaders in a good light, you’re one of the morons he was talking about.
>The bad part comes in when humanity drives itself to extinction from constant tribal warfare and depleting of resources.
Paul literally sees the future and determines that his path is the ONLY one that PREVENTS humanity from going extinct.
>If you though Herbert was depicting religious warlord leaders in a good light
I don't care what Herbert was trying to depict, I'm judging Paul by his actions and their outcome.
But it's established as an objective fact that such a genocide is the only way to prevent humanity from going extinct.
>Paul literally sees the future and determines that his path is the ONLY one that PREVENTS humanity from going extinct
And one in which kickstarted the process of every house and fremen living in constant fear of one another in a self fulfilling prophecy, one in which his son had to clean up and spend thousands of years cleaning up
>I don't care what Herbert was trying to depict, I'm judging Paul by his actions and their outcome.
Lol too bad, that’s authors intent and the intent is what matters in both the subtext of the plot and subtext outside of it.
>Lol too bad, that’s authors intent and the intent is what matters in both the subtext of the plot and subtext outside of it.
too bad intent does not matter in real world, only actions and consequences. Paul is ultimately a hero and no leftist mumbo jumbo can change it.
>Paul is ultimately a hero and no leftist mumbo jumbo can change it
It’s literally leftism to think this. A desire for hordes of space muslims to cross everyone’s borders and allow spice trade freely among the galaxy OR ELSE is literal globalism, /misc/gay.
>It’s literally leftism to think this. A desire for hordes of space muslims to cross everyone’s borders and allow spice trade freely among the galaxy OR ELSE is literal globalism, /misc/gay.
it is literally not you dumbt leftie c**t. /misc/ is right wing, you moron. Get a grip
>pol/ is right wing, you moron
Yet here you are propagating ideas from a left wing author, direction brain.
>Yet here you are propagating ideas from a left wing author, direction brain.
then why do you call me /misc/ you idiot woke leftie c**t? Are you out of insults? Go leave then dickhead
>ahhhhh don’t insult my dumb uninformed fricking takes please noooooooo
Your desperate attempts to make yourself out as smarter than your average poster on pol isn’t helping your case any.
>Your desperate attempts to make yourself out as smarter than your average poster on pol isn’t helping your case any.
typical leftist cope4ygsa
YWNBAW
Herbert was absolutely not left wing.
He absolutely was. Look up any interview he ever did. He started out as anti government and environmentalist before becoming an anarchist later in life. He was also staunchly anti reagan/thatcher and only supported left wing republicans (back when that was a thing).
Anarchism is not left wing. Anti-establimentarianism is not left wing. He wasnt conservative if that's what you mean to say.
Herbert was a genius shroomhead who would argue in spirals against himself. Trying to get a coherent political statement or message out of Dune is a fools quest.
>Anarchism is not left wing
Profoundly moronic statement. Anarchism came about from left wing revolutions against the upper class. So did anti establishment ideals. Just because it’s antiquated leftism doesn’t make it not leftism, but I guess the overton window has made traditional conservatism just another diluted flavor of liberalism
Anarchism as a philosophical and political concept existed way before socialism/communism.
And it was only ever applied in a socialist/communist setting. There has never been any right wing expansion on anarchism promulgated by any right wing politician or found in any literature.
>And it was only ever applied in a socialist/communist setting
Anarchism is anathema to socialism by its very definition. Commies calling themselves anarchists doesn't make them so.
Socialism and especially Communism require a big guvmint involved in as much stuff as possible.
It's quite literally the opposite of anarchism.
Anarchy = without gubmint.
Simple as.
Do you like literally anything the government does? Then you're not an anarchist, same goes for all modern socialists, they want the government to control even more than it currently does.
You could maybe have a minarchist socialist, but an anarchist socialist is just an oxymoron.
Mises libertarians are the closest thing to right wing slanted anarchist.
Have you ever heard of Ancaps? They are right wing anarchists
Ancaps are just socialists wearing business suits
>i need politics to be a 2d spectrum
Anon, what does "leftism" mean in your own words?
You will get kicked out of leftist groups for not supporting trannies and Black folk, but you won't get kicked out for supporting global free trade. Therefore leftism is worshipping Black folk and trannies. What outdated definition are you using? You understand how language evolves right? Or are you conflating leftism and cultural Marxism with economic Marxism?
Its a simple question no need to get worked up.
>cultural marxism
This is literally short hand for "current zeitgeist that i dont like".
What makes something "leftist"?
>avoiding the question
>strawman
I answered you, now if you don't have an answer for me or you're too afraid to give it then don't bother responding
Classical notion: a social contract between the citizen and the state to further individualism and enlightenment
Postmodern notion: Black folk and free shit
Ok, anarchism is about doing away with the state itself. So according to your own definition, anarchism is in opposition to leftism.
Anon, youre literally conflating liberalism with leftism.
>Herbert
>left wing
You're a literal moron.
Lel. There are tons of lefties on /misc/ these days. There are plenty of right-wing talking points that /misc/ was in universal agreement on just a few years ago that will now lead to universal mocking if you share them. Also, /misc/ will claim they never believed these things.
same gayging and coping leftie who uses stupid leftist tactis "well I am not like that so your generalization is wrong! REEE"
This will never be your site no matter how often you raid
>A desire for hordes of space muslims to cross everyone’s borders and allow spice trade freely
what the frick, the movie and book is not about this.
>Paul is ultimately a hero and no leftist mumbo jumbo can change it.
No he isn't that's why Leto has to turn himself into a Worm Marty.
Thats not the authors intent at all. If you read Dune and came away with some lukewarm variation of "tyrants are bad mmmmkay" You need to read it again. Herbert fetishises what he calls the Pharonic Ideal. The God Emperor is the only thing that could shepherd the race to survival
you're fricking moronic. paul saw the future and knew that the jihad was inevitable either way, best he could was to lead it and kill millions instead of billions
This is false
he even sees a future where he simply becomes a guildsmen navigator and avoids most shit.
>Paul literally sees the future and determines that his path is the ONLY one that PREVENTS humanity from going extinct.
That's Leto's path. Paul was too much of a pussy to follow The Golden Path in its entirety.
paul did follow the golden path. He made it so that all of the events in Children happened. He was the catalyst that drove Leto II to accept the Pharonic Ideal as his constant companion
the galaxy wide genocide is the bad part methinks
> Wait, where's the bad part?
50 billion dead and the destruction of the Fremen culture
Fricking Museum Fremen, man. Disgraceful.
>50 billion dead
Unavoidable and justified.
>destruction of the Fremen culture
Only as far as they identified as a desert-dwelling people. They end up in a better world and their culture just has to evolve beyond being desert people.
> Unavoidable
Not if he slit his throat once he received the visions in the desert
The Jihad was going to happen eventually with or without him.
> The Jihad was going to happen eventually with or without him.
Where was this written? Sounds like post-hoc adjustments after the first two books.
What do you think was going to happen if Jessica conceived Paul as a girl to marry Feyd Ratha and make the planned Kwisatz Hederach, like the Bene Gesserit wanted?
BG are fujos?
> What do you think was going to happen if Jessica conceived Paul as a girl to marry Feyd Ratha and make the planned Kwisatz Hederach, like the Bene Gesserit wanted?
I don’t know. How is that relevant to this discussion? Paul has a vision and that Jihad was only going to happen if he put one foot in front of the other.
The original plan was to have his kid be prescient. The kid would have seen the golden path and would have don't just as Leto II did; all Paul did was start the jihad and unification. It's kinda crazy you see the inevitability of needing the jihad and the golden path only because of Paul. The difference would have been 20 extra years, maybe, before a jihad compared to 10,000 years or eugenics to get him. Frick man, and that's only after the Bene Gesserit realized humanity was headed to extinction and started the entire thing to begin with and who knows how long that took.
The Bene Gesserit were working towards creating a Kwisatz Hederach for centuries. Their plan only failed in so much that Paul wasn't in their control.
They succeeded beyond their wildest dreams, if anything
Paul not being a girl would not be a problem in a non heteronormative universe
Nah. The Jihad was only unavoidable as long as he survived.
>Not if he slit his throat once he received the visions in the desert
His death leads to a path that's even more destructive.
> His death leads to a path that's even more destructive.
Sounds like a post-hoc rationalization by Herbert, or worse, his son.
It literally says it in the novel. One of the places people got the "we're on the other path" theory from mentions how the other paths are worse than the one Paul chooses.
from what I remember that is only true after the ball started rolling, if paul had died immediately after fleeing into the desert he wouldn't be a martyr to the fremen and it would've avoided the jihad.
The more destructive path in question is the stagnation of humanity in the bounds of a sphere that is controllable by a single institution (ie the empire and known space). This opens humanity open to being wiped out by a single event, ruler, or organization.
Paul dying doesn't guarantee that happening but it also does nothing to avoid it.
The Fremen going full religion of peace is just an aspect of the grand plan that Paul wanted to avoid (and failed to), not the destructive event per se
There is no bad part. Just leftists trying to co-opt something Herbert said out of context so they can claim the book as being their version of 1984.
He is using the Fremen as useful idiots. He doesn't give a shit about any of the things the the Fremen care about. He is not their messiah and he knows it's just old religious manipulation from the BG that he is piggybacking on.
His real goal is first to recapture his Atreidis fief, and later when he awakens, the entire empire.
See now you're just projecting your own cynicism onto Paul.
He canonically adores Fremen culture. He sees the fremen as his saviours. When he loses his sight he uses his clairvoyance to see but eventually gives up and voluntarily self exiles which all blind firemen do.
I hate the media literacy meme, but if you can't view characters outside your own perspective and you need to inject your own ideals onto characters, you have autism.
The bad part is the fantastical "conshequenzus" that follows because the writer is desperate smear a character. "Duh golden path" being the only way forward is a way of railroading you into this.
>Jesus Christ
I don't know what to tell you, but the alegory can't get any more obvious if you spelled it out yourself.
so is he good or bad? this dumb movie with the gay zoomers is too confusing
he's both
You couldn't tell if he was good or bad but the MOVIE was dumb? Were you trying to look moronic or was that on accident?
I didn’t watch the movie, it looks dumb. i was asking about the book, which also sounds gay
good guy forced to do bad shit to evil people. For some reason the author and the director wants us to hate paul when hes the most noble character in the series. Well maybe duncan but hes a garystu self insert.
Messiah's gonna blow up on Denis' face if he uses Chani as some sort of conspirator in the adaptation. People don't hate Paul the same way people don't hate Anakin. I don't know why this frog moron is so focused on making us hate him while at the same time giving him the coolest shit to do on screen.
His version of messiah will make no sense since book chani is all aboard the genocide train and loves paul and only paul. Shes a good traditional woman.
It's queer eye cadillac
dib dib XDD
Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God.
Dead, that's hilarious.
He unified Arrakis is what he did. He was the Kwisatz Haderach. And in this house, Paul Muad’Dib is a hero. End of story.
>AKA Whiteboy Goated with the sauce
>white
he is a israelite, if you want to know the difference the evil ones are all israelites
I'm talking about Paul Atreides, not Timmy Charlemagne, obsessed homosexual.
(You) = Feyd. Trump = the Baron.
what is this Harkonen gayness supposed to be? Genuine lust on both sides? One-sided lust from the old guy? A platonic cultural thing to symbolize trust?
He's a gay pedo (redundant, I know) in the book. They showed that in the Lynch movie, but they probably didn't want to upset gays, so they cut that out in the new movie.
The problem is that, since they cut it, now that scene just comes out of nowhere. It would make sense if it was established beforehand that he was like that.
>WAHH I NEED EVERYTHING SPELLED OUT TO ME WITH EXPOSITIOOOONNN
You are visually illiterate and i'd tell you to read a book but your probably too moronic for that as well
Gay pedo triggered lololol
Go ahead and point to the scene from Part 1 where it was even remotely implied that the Baron was a gay pedo, like you.
Here's a website to help you:
youtube.com
If your reply is anything but the link to said non-existent scene, I accept your confession.
You are a dishonest c**t and a probably a gay.
We all know perfectly well why they didn't include this in current year.
How did he make Jessica? Did he get some Bene Gesserit pussy?
He had boy slaves in the new movies
Movie chani is so annoying
And ugly
She has a big match tonight.
>chani is just a side character
>make her the main character raping screentime and the ending for shits and giggles
>quick, tell me how I fit this work of set into my directionfried skull
Everything else aside, there is no doubt that this is exactly the mindset Herbert was criticizing.
Fun fact: if you rearrange the letters for kwisatch haderack you get "I Am Alex Jones"
>The Devil
>Satan
>Lucifer
>Beelzebub
>Old Nick
>Mephistopheles
>Iblis
>Belial
>Apollyon
He's not even the main character.
These are all different guys.
Proof?
Apollyon is Trotsky's real name, don't know about the others
I'm pretty sure Revelation came before Trotsky.
He's Satan himself thoughever.
the strategy leto ii used to win and secure the future of humanity always seemed pretty clever to me, I didnt see the problem with him either
any time someone tries to mock functional or rational decisions they always, predictably, fail
also see starship troopers
>nooo /misc/ is totally not a moron containment camp for illiterate 16yo browncels , we have deep discussions
Why can't we go a single thread without one of you gay pedo trannies (redundant, I know) bringing up le polboogeyman?
And, of course, how ironic that you will go on to cry about racism in the next thread.
You are not fitting in, go back.
/qa/ lost
each and everyone of these defines a different aspect of his life
>Paul Atreides
duke's son
>Muad'Dib
>Usul
all fremen have 2 name
>Mahdi
fremen superstition
>Lisan al-Gaib
freme superstion manipulated by the bg
>Kwisatz Bubblebath
BG goal
This only goes to show how Paul is a part of a layered web of interests, superstitions, plans and legacies.
Fun fact Muslims actually believe in a guy named Mahdi who has been hiding in a cave since Muhammad's time and will officially reappear when Armageddon is here
what does their armageddon entails btw?
I've been re-reading dune lately (havent touched this book in quite a while) and there's this fascinating paragraph that i completely forgot
> "He remained silent, thinking like the seed he was, thinking with the race consciousness he had first experienced as terrible purpose. He found that he no longer could hate the Bene Gesserit or the Emperor or even the Harkonnens. They were all caught up in the need of their race to renew its scattered inheritance, to cross and mingle and infuse their bloodlines in a great new pooling of genes. And the race knew only one sure way for this - the ancient way, the tried and certain way that rolled over everything in its path: jihad"
The jihad is in fact a solution for the stagnation of our culture. They want to destroy the weak and mingle the genes of the strong ones. These hollywood gays are so weak they are afraid to explain why the holy war is being pushed as a solution for humanity's problems.
Only Paul has the level of consciousness to see this big picture situation. Others may be catching a feeling of a bare intuition, but Paul can see it clearly. He has become the single man with sight leading the mass of the blind. Ad not the kind of blind that once had sight and no longer, but the kind that have never seen at all.
Jesus also comes back on judgement day in Islam (he's just not the son of god)
Christianity is a retcon of Judaism.
Islam is a retcon of Christianity.
So there's not much difference between the three.
I think they are all zoroastrists, even if they claim otherwise
Nah
Imagine a white stacey thinking she's a Buddhist because she likes the idea of Karma and reincarnation.
What happened in Rome was the exact same shit. Some Roman Staceys thought Mythra and greek myth were too masculine. They thought Christianity was quirky, of course they filtered and added some white girl spice. Early Christianity to Roman girls was the same as today's horoscope hoes.
I'm not exaggerating, look up how many men were converted because a b***h they wanted to frick was "christian".
Only until the ideas of Christ got big enough that they needed to make a meeting so autists could debate and put it to writing. The Council of Nicea is one of the most interesting moments in history. They literally sat down, debated theology, philosophy and morality, and wrote a religion to appeal to everyone, one that would possess superior ethics and life lessons.
Now islam is a different story. Mohammad didn't read any of that shit, he heard of it but he was just a desert cultist. He just made the equivalent to mormonism so he could make an army and frick a bunch of wives. He made it up as he went along.
As it is written.
muslims are moronic
DUKE PAUL YOU MEAN
Paul becoming the emperor was a total asspull even in the book
At least killing the Baron and retaking control of Arrakis makes sense
Controlling the Spice means controlling humanity. All Paul did was converge his religious clout with the political aspects of the Empire instead of doing it surreptitiously.
Lots of different people controlled Arrakis over the years and they didn't become Emperors.
No one ever threatened to destroy it in earnest. Everyone who controlled it previously had a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. Paul was upending the whole table, not re-balancing the scales.
meant for
They could have all threatened to destroy Arrakis but never did. It wouldn't give them the right to be Emperor
and even disregarding that. The entire premise seems unrelated to the rest of the story. (Paul getting revenge for the death of his father and destroying the Harkonnens)
You know what gives one the right to be Emperor? Might.
Why didnt the emperor take arrakis to himself then? Gave it away like a moron
Spacing Guild wouldn't like that and they are the real power center before Paul turns up
oh frick i did not know there was a comic based off the lynch aesthetics. Thats incredible.
Bill Sienkiewicz art, just before he became a star
oh im going to have to find this. that looks incredible. I have long thought that a lengthy graphic novel would be the best alternate telling of Dune rather than a movie.
it's on readcomiconline dot li if anybody's looking
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Because the Landsraad needed to feel confident that one of the other houses could one day be emperor. If the current emperor takes the spice for himself, all that trust evaporates.
I wish Feyd didn't have to die, he was such a frickin cool character and would have been a perfect replacement for the Baron
From now on, you will be known as Muad'Dib, but your secret name that would be only known to me and that only I will call you is Lisan al-Gaib. And, your secret name that neither myself nor Stilgar would know will be... Kwisatz Haderach.
>Water of Life kills any man who drinks it
>Paul drinks it but doesn't die
Why? Was this explained? I had to take a piss around the time he drank it and saw those faces.
HE IS THE QUIDDITCH GOLDENSNITCH
He was taught how to transmute the poison since he’s a gesserit. But I’m guessing any previous males that tried who were also taught in the way still had some genome or some bullshit that made it basically impossible. And Paul was the first bred male to be able to hard piss it out
>He was taught how to transmute the poison since he’s a gesserit
Not in the movie, which just has 'Another drop / Chani's kiss VAGUENESS.
that was the point of the breeding program
Because, Satan, the kwisatz haderach can look into the male ancestral memories as well as the female ancestral memories. Thus in a mechanical universe if one knows What Came Before, one can see What Will Yet Come. That is what the BG believe. They are so arrogant to think that they can control such power.
>Thus in a mechanical universe if one knows What Came Before, one can see What Will Yet Come. That is what the BG believe.
It only just now crossed my mind that Bakker's Dunyain are basically an extreme version of BG, just w/o the genetic memory
Oh for sure Bakker lifts alot of concepts and vibes from Dune to incredible effect I think. Thats why his stuff is so good I think hes very much like Herbert
It makes more sense when you realize that Dune is literally just proto shounen shit.
it really is. it's so funny seeing my normalfriends shill and love dune + messiah but hate anime. it's just a shonen with drugs. i fricking hate americans sometimes
>deus ex machina psychic link with sandtrout
>is now able to move super fast, lift several tons and is immune to Arrakis heat
A fricking shounen power up. That one thing ruins Children of Dune and almost the entire series.
It's an exercise in Bene Gesserit powers. It requires complete control over the chemical processes inside of your body in order to transmute the water from deadly poison to the mind altering "harmless" drug.
When Paul converts the drug he awakens as Kwisatz Haderach and can see the memories of all female and male ancestors as well as get a more clear vision of possible futures.
Chani and Jessica assume he is stuck trying to convert the drug and are trying to feed him the solution, but Paul had already figured it out on his own. Getting fed some more water of life helped him find himself back to reality.
So then wtf happened to his mom when she drank it? I guess since she's Bene Gesserit she did the same thing, but what about the other women before her who were just Fremen women? How come they didn't die?
the fremen wise women were also the descendants of a bene gesserit tradition, even if they weren't fully aware of it, which is why they went by the same religious titles (Reverend Mother, etc) as the rest of them.
>through millenia of careful breeding we have developed abilities that no one else can use, giving our organisation a great deal of power
>jk some random sandBlack folk got the same powers by pure coinkydink
>"Oh but that's because they live surrounded by spice 24/7 so it makes sense that they develo-"
>also some israelites living on a completely different planet have a random old lady with the same powers too because... just because, ok!?
Hackbert is a fraud. It would be like if some random spearchuckers on a forest planet somewhere somehow invent the super secret cloning technology those other guys have.
>the same powers by pure coinkydink
Not even close to a coincidence. Agents of the Benejizzonherbreasts planted both the religious forms and mythology into the culture, as they knew the source of spice would be a pivotal piece in their long game. The wise women among the fremen are direct descendants of some of these agents carrying on their religious rituals largely unchanged.
This is surface level details in both the movie and books. Learn to read or at least listen to dialogue, brainlet
It's much more fun to invent plotholes to get mad at, though.
There are plenty of plot holes to pick at but you'd need to read the books to find them
Media literacy (meme term but it's the best word for what's being described) is at an all time low. So much so that a young adult sci fi series is beyond the grasp of an alarming portion of the population
This was one of the most obvious plotpoints, how did people not get it?
AKA JC
AKA POTTAWOTTAMIE MASSACRE
AKA CRACKA BARREL
AKA FROSTED FLAKES
So did every planet have a different messiah prophecy specifically about a man and woman showing up to solve all their problems planted on it centuries ago like dune did just incase any ben and jerrys got stranded there?
Or was it just on dune because it's such an important planet for the empire?
>So did every planet have a different messiah prophecy
no
the fremen have their own messiah prophecies, they just manipulate them to insert bg bullshit in case some of their members get stranded there and needs a way out, to protect them, take advantage of the situation, etc
>Or was it just on dune because it's such an important planet for the empire?
it's because its a super shitty harsh place and they needed as much power as they could to protect themselves in case of need
The Missionara Protectiva seeds these BG legends pretty much anywhere there is a population susceptible to them.
I magine there is a great house that they need to lay low. All they need to do is go to one of the preconditioned demographics of the local hill billy inhabitants of one of that House's planets and drum up a revolution based on the most powerful and manipulable drivers of violence, religion.
>The Dragon Reborn
>Ta'veren
>Coramoor
>Car'a'carn
>He Who Comes With the Dawn
>Shadowkiller
>King of Illian
>Commander of the Armies of the Light
>Lord of the Morning
>Prince of the Dawn
>First Among Servants
>AKA the Kwisatz Bubblebath
*SQUEAK*
Imagine being Armie in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Timothée, you frickin' fine, all sexy with your anorexic body and horrific androgynous israeli face. I would totally have sex with you, both my character and the real me." when all he really wants to do is frick another 16 year old in his dressing room. Like seriously imagine having to be Armie and not only sit in that chair while Timothée Chalamet, flaunts his disgusting body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing his rib cage and bonely israelite nose, and just sit there, take after take, hour after hour, while he came in that peach. Not only having to tolerate his monstrous fricking visage but his haughty attitude as everyone on set tells him he's ALREADY GOT IT and DAMN, TIMOTHÉE CHALAMET LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch his skinny fricking gollum face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been fricking nothing but a healthy diet of blondes and supermodels and later alleged rape victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in Santa Monica. You've never even seen anything this fricking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on his foot as he sticks it to your face to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to sit there and revel in his "twinktastic (for that is what he calls himself)" beauty, the beauty he worked so hard for with personal trainers in the previous months. And then the director calls for another take, and you know you could eat every single person in this room before the studio security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fricking Armie. You're not going to lose your future Hollywood career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
he's cute tho
he has the body of a 16 year old boy
HE'S 28 YEARS OLD YOU SUCK FRICK
>SUCK FRICK
A little old for my tastes I admit but that's okay
and still gets treated as a 16 year old
Though in this instance that's his movie mommy, which seems appropriate
He has more chemistry with Rebecca than he does with Zendaya, it's insane.
I hope mixed race girls understand that they're supposed to relate to zendaya and that she's their self insert. They need to mimic her characters' mentality
Is is true they really had frick sessions to train Timmy off screen?
You’d think this israelite’s parents would have had money for braces.
but his secret name that neither you and I will call him will be : David Duke
His name is a killing word
No, but Rauta means Iron in Finnish. Raban and Feyd are very foreign.
I bet I could beat his ass
>And the old woman had waved Jessica to silence, looked down at Paul. "Grave this on your memory, lad: A world is supported by four things . . . " She held up four big-knuckled fingers. ". . . the learning of the wise, the justice of the great, the prayers of the righteous and the valor of the brave. But all of these are as nothing . . . " She closed her fingers into a fist. ". . . without a ruler who knows the art of ruling. Make that the science of your tradition!"
>Paul Atreides
the ruler
>AKA Muad'Dib
the brave
>AKA Usul
the great
>AKA the Mahdi
>AKA Lisan al-Gaib
the righteous
>AKA the Kwisatz Bubblebath
the wise
>I must add my modern politics in the movie because I want the audience to know that paul is the real bad guy and I do not support his beliefs.
You forgot the most important title of all
>Paul "Literaly me" Atreides
your name will be usul, but your secret name only we will use will be muad'dib, and your ultra secret name that no one will use will be Paul Atreidies
Pesky Paul
The Kwanza Hobbitbath didn't really seem to feature into the movie.
They mentioned it like once in the second movie. It was kind of a big deal in the book
>Yeah bro I can see millennia into the future and determine the exact series of events needed to transpire to ensure humanity doesn't stagnate/go extinct
>Oh shit my wife had twins? Didn't see that one coming!
Fremen are a pack of idiots and Paul was a megalomaniacal fraud.
Prescience is self evidently flawed yet he wages his dumb wars all to fulfill Benejizzrat schizo eschatology
How do Muslims feel about these movies?
Who cares about their feeling?
Western leftists, more than they care about their own nations.
Those books suck, have you tried to read them?
... it's torture.
they are pure kino
they love it
>Update
Nothing is worse than reading Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time. I do not need a description of Moiraine's socks
>Jesus (the Greek form of Yeshua, which means "God Saves")
>Christ
>Messiah
>Moshiach
>the Root of Jesse
>the Son of David
>the Son of God
>the Branch
>the Good Shepherd
>the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
>the Groomsman
>the Word of God
>Immanuel ("God with us")
>the Lamb of God
and His personal favorite
>the Son of Man
when you are creating a messianic character for fiction, you pattern how he is based on the real world Messianic figure, who has a lot of titles throughout the bible.
and not only Him, His opponent also has a lot of titles
>Lucifer
>the Dragon
>the serpent
>Satan
>the morning star
>the Devil
and his agent on Earth, the Antichrist, also has a lot of titles
>the Assyrian
>the King of Babylon
>the Prince who is to come
>the Beast
>the Son of Perdition
>the Man of Sin
>the Worthless Shepherd
>the Little Horn
>the Vile Man
>the King of Fierce Countenance
>the Antichrist
>Gog of Magog
so I find creating that many titles for Paul appropriate, because it's patterned after religious Messianic, and Anti-Messianic figures.
Robert Jordan did the same thing with Rand al Thor in Wheel of Time, referring to him as "the Dragon" and "the Lord of the Morning", the Car a Carn (Chief of Chiefs), He who comes with the dawn, the Coramoor, Shadowkiller, First Among the Servants, and his previous incarnation, Kinslayer.
in Wheel of Time and Dune part of the reason why this is done is because these are tittles from different cultures.
Mr Beast confirmed antichrist
well to be fair, the reason why he's referred to as "the little horn" is because he starts out as a nobody, like a sudden up and comer.. People looking at presidents and kings as possible antichrist figures don't know the bible which says Antichrist will be a nobody who illegitimately takes power through flattery and being appointed by 10 other kings even though he doesn't have the right to rule.
so he's gonna come out of left field. Might as well be Mr Beast.
>Christ
>Messiah
>Moshiach
>the Root of Jesse
>the Son of David
>the Son of God
>the Branch
>the Good Shepherd
>the King of Kings and Lord of Lords
>the Groomsman
>the Word of God
>Immanuel ("God with us")
>the Lamb of God
Literally the script for the opening 5 minutes of every megachurch pastor sermon I've ever heard. Just dramatically list 50 different synonyms for Jesus.
well, I mean, those are all references given in the bible for the same person in the bible.
like.. see this
Revelation 19
>7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
>8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
>9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
>10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
>11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
>12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
>13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
>14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
>15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
>16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
that there.. the name Jesus, the Lamb (capital L), a reference to Him as the Groomsman, Faithful and True, the Word of God, King of Kings and Lord of Lords... and a name that only He knows
so 7 names for Jesus in 1 passage.
and you know the bible really likes the number 7.
>Worm Army by Hans Zimmer plays
>hits its peak as Paul slowly walks alone and comes into the distance with a huge grandfather sandworm behind him
>someone actually got up to go to the bathroom during this scene and missed it
What the frick
> Heighliners are now portal satellites around every planet
How did they get there to set up the network then Denny, you moron?
Why wouldn't that be a ship? I just assumed they'd show guild in dune 3
Bene Geseriddd :DDDDD
made for the BHC
I secured spice production.
>people harping on about how much better villanueve's dune is than lynch
>villaneuve basically rushed the entire ending the same exact way lynch did
for fricks sake these people are hacks
Dune 2000 miniseries >>>>>>> villanuveve Dune > Lynchs dune
Lawrence of Arabia (og dune) >>>>> all that
Based but it should be villanueves dune = David Lynch Dune because they are both equally shit dune adaptations. Dune miniseries is amazing for what it did and how faithfully they adapted the story to film.
Lynch's Dune all 5 hours >>> power gap >>> sandworm piss >>> bene gesserit ASS >>> DUNC and miniseries
DUNCbros am i cheating myself if i watch this movie on a tv as opposed to in theaters?
I just finished Heretics of dune and this book is wild. Everyone is trying to seduce the Duncan clone. First the Bene Geserit milf at the start and then the Honored Matres. Also Duncan is like 13 in this book, what was frank smoking. Miles Teg is based though
imagine a billion sarah gadon gholas
he opened up his drug suitcase and took one of everything he had
after that his writing was never the same
Fricking love the sex imprinting combat martial art shit he gets into. He went off the deep end and theres no one like him
Looks like he's yelling at Dr. Han
>Usul
Les salauds !
PUJADAS
The Kravitz Hollaback
Why do Hollywood actors refuse to fix their bottoms teeth? Especially now with those plastic see through things
Hes from the EU, please be understanding towards him.
Plenty of Hollywood stars from the US have fricked up bottom teeth. Scarlet Johansson, Ryan Reynolds etc.
>Especially now with those plastic see through things
Do these work for straightening teeth past puberty?
They do
>I'M ACTING
Walked out the kinoplex here.
>I'M ACTING!! PLEASE! I'M ACTING RIGHT NOW! I'M ROARING LIKE A LION! *SOBS* CAN'T YOU SEE? UHHHH GOD CAN'T THEY SEE I'M <<<ACTING>>> AHHHH ABLOOBLOOBLOO *snot drops on his suit* FUUUCK AHHH UHHH *tears pool at his feet* I'M... I'M... THE QISATCH HADDERASS BUUUH OHHHH REVERED MATRESS PLEASE GOD OH NO NO *pants start dripping urine*
>make a tribe of epic noble savages
>call them the free men
subtlety wasn't this guy's strong suit huh
>kills 60 billion people
>goes blind
>allows wife to die in childbirth
>walks into the desert
He’s just like me
So relatable!
i thought the real true god king was his son?
>>AKA Muad'Dib
>>AKA the Mahdi
wtf there are 2 different names that sound like this? I thought it was the same thing every time.
There's homies out there who really ain't see this shit in Imax, like bruh what is you doin?
I watched the cam rip. And I can safely say that the movie wasnt good enough to buy an imax ticket.
>main character
that'd be Dunkin Cleveland