Personally I believe Insomniac Spider-Man is one of the best adaptations of the material. The only real shitty parts of this universe are

Personally I believe Insomniac Spider-Man is one of the best adaptations of the material. The only real shitty parts of this universe are
>Lois Lane knockoff MJ
>Silvermane looking Hammerhead
>Weak base costume (which is really a non issue because you can swap to whatever suit you want at the start of the game).
Hell it has the only decent version of Miles too. Can we talk about this universe for a bit, maybe hopes/wants for 2? When might we see some real footage?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hate that they're going with the symbiote being man-made route. I've always hated that origin.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

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      See this is why our board is fricking garbage. If it's not porn or shitposting, you genuinely don't give a frick. Well frick you, I'm going to actually talk about what I like for a change so suck my dick.
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      Not exactly confirmed. OSCORP has a space program in this universe. Could have been found on a satellite
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      The only Slott-isms are two characters he created. That's really it. He had next to nothing to do with this game's creation, and the material is really more encompassing of the entire fiction.

      i hope they pull a twist and have peter already have done the symbiote arc and somehow norman and oscorp got a hold of it since then
      the the do you have a black suit line makes sense and they could even do something really cool like a few flashback missions with peter and mj telling miles about it
      then we can get a flash back aunt may cameo return

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That would be pretty cool actually

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That would be cool, i just dont expect it. Since they prupsufully didnt have the black suit in the first game to do the saga later.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Every word you just said is wrong

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    LOL

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Mad at a BLM mural being in Harlem
      Are you fricking serious? This is like complaining about there being swastikas in a videogame about WWII

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      moron.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >harlem
      >place known for having black people
      >had black lives matter mural
      Wow next you'll be telling me I can get mexican food in mexico.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    frick off slott

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >don't let this be a miles thread, don't let this be a miles thread, don't let this be a miles thread, don't let this be a miles thread, don't let this be a miles thread

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don't like some of the slottisms but it's good otherwise

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

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    Every word you just said is wrong

    LOL

    frick off slott

    See this is why our board is fricking garbage. If it's not porn or shitposting, you genuinely don't give a frick. Well frick you, I'm going to actually talk about what I like for a change so suck my dick.

    I hate that they're going with the symbiote being man-made route. I've always hated that origin.

    Not exactly confirmed. OSCORP has a space program in this universe. Could have been found on a satellite

    I don't like some of the slottisms but it's good otherwise

    The only Slott-isms are two characters he created. That's really it. He had next to nothing to do with this game's creation, and the material is really more encompassing of the entire fiction.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >See this is why our board is fricking garbage
      Our board is fricking garbage because moronic casuals like you play a game, ignore all of the actual Cinemaphile content for a character, and then insist said game is the best thing the character's ever appeared in.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Not all the tumblr tier posts, cal arts webcomics or shows aimed at girls threads?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          No, it was this specific thread that ruined it all. Up until today, Cinemaphile was a perfectly fine Utopia--then gaybag OP showed up.

          Typical.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            have a nice day Black personhomosexual troony

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              An inability to detect blatant sarcasm is one of the most notorious signs of autism, you know.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                have a nice day troony

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >only decent version of miles
    Uh I think you are missing something bro. Also miles looks better in itsv

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >slott fan has shit taste
    who would've thought

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I don't give a shit about Slott. You're trying to force a stupid narrative that this game is his creation to gather support to shit on it

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        frick slott u don't fool us go back to sock puppeting at cbr

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The patrician choice

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Black cat looks good on that cover, but I hate her in-game design. Is it that sexist for a character to have a boob window?

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Silver Sable looks boring
    Screwball exists

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    WHAT THE FRICK IS EVERYBODY BRINGING UP SLOTT FOR!!!!????

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because Mister Negative and Screwball are in the game. That’s literally the only reason. Martin isn’t even a bad character, and required other/better writers to give him some love. But shitposters love to latch onto this game because it’s easy ammo to trigger people over

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Not your pic pretender. You don't even read comics

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Shut the frick up, you moron.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hate the white spider logo

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    so why is miles in the game? Didn't he have his own game?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      He’s a sidekick that got his own spin-off after the events of the main game.

      not a fan of aunt may dying, we really don't see that much of her for it to be that impactful. I wish the scene of peter and doc going to that science exhibit was in the first game

      I’ll give the game credit for having the balls to basically give the middle finger to OMD

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >I’ll give the game credit for having the balls to basically give the middle finger to OMD
        wow they're so brave for responding to OMD in a different continuity

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Hey at least Chris Gage did something about it

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I still want to play it. I've always liked Insomniac's games. It just never happened for me.
    Spiderman on average has good games too.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    not a fan of aunt may dying, we really don't see that much of her for it to be that impactful. I wish the scene of peter and doc going to that science exhibit was in the first game

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Id agree that its one of the best adaptations, but i would say this miles wasn't particularly good, he was an absolute afterthought in the first game and his spinoff just re-did the main game's plot but worse. Also li and otto are far too similar to both be the main villains of the first game, li should have had a different target at least.

    Also not a fan of this norman at all.

    Had a good peter so it evens out.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Oh also cat wearing armor was lame as frick. In general the villains outside of ock and vulture didnt look too good for me.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Also also would add that for this being a spider-man with 8 years of experience him not having fought any of his "big 3" yet (or others fitting those roles) feels a bit like a cop out, in general it makes him feel less experienced than most iterations of the character.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I disagree simply because he's able to fight two Sinister Six members at a time

          he sure did

          His Superior Spider-Man was great. Not his fault Marvel wanted the status quo back. Man you're really hell bent on being a jerk today, aren't you?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            moron. Read the last panel

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              And?

              Being able to play as Venom is a must, and hopefully they don't force anymore MJ type segments on us.

              I'd rather save a playable Venom for a spin-off game like Miles. It doesn't detract from Peter's story, and gives Eddie his own time to shine/work out mechanics fully

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >and gives Eddie
                >still thinking Venom will be Eddie in the Insomniac universe.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >And?
                Man you have a shit taste

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, thats not particularly impressive, at least for one with 8 years of experience. But i mostly mean that he's pretty univlvoed with his villains since his big 3 arent there yet (nor their spinoff three of which are also massively impactful to peter) which makes this feel like wanting to have your cake and eating it too.

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

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    wow you weren't joking at all about derailing this thread

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Being able to play as Venom is a must, and hopefully they don't force anymore MJ type segments on us.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      In the DLC with blackcat, MJ basically says she’s done with the whole sneaking around bit. Insomniac was aware of the backlash to the MJ sections.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, the miles game was kinda meh, by that point I had played so much of the first it was just boring, also they ruined the first by changing peters face in the "remaster".

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >also they ruined the first by changing peters face in the "remaster".
      I'm personally not bothered by it because Peter is wearing a mask most of the time. I'd be more upset if they swapped voice actors

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >>Weak base costume
    It's actually a really strong design. Feels athletic, superheroic.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically shit taste

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I came to like the insomniac suit. Also gives the symbiote a base for the tarantula

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It spider-man condensced for people who dont like Spider-Man. Such an awful peter

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Why would people who don’t like spider man buy the game with spider man?

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It was decently fun to play, didn't bother with any of the dlc or the ps5 dlc, as a more general question do you think that one day Miles will have his own Ben Reilly?

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >>Lois Lane knockoff MJ
    MJ being a "war" journalist and helping Peter is a better use for her than sad actress not getting any work.
    > only decent version of Miles
    Into The Spiderverse exists
    >Weak base costume
    Nah its good but I'm curious what your thoughts are on the other costumes you think are bad?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >is a better use for her
      No, just no.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Why?
        MJ actually being in the line of fire would be better justification for Peter being scared of losing and would be a nice change of pace from "Oh no I couldn't make MJ's show because I'm Spiderman and now she's mad"

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >MJ actually being in the line of fire would be better justification for Peter being scared of losing
          This makes absolutely no sense. Spider-Man's powerful, but he's still prone to losing fights; he doesn't need MJ to be in direct and constant danger to be afraid of losing.

          Plus, it just fricked over her personality. She acts like Lois Lane in the game, too.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >he doesn't need MJ to be in direct and constant danger to be afraid of losing
            Obviously it would be for her job documenting the seedy underbelly of New York
            >Plus, it just fricked over her personality. She acts like Lois Lane in the game, too
            So what? MJ has never had a solid personality across all adaptations. Why is Lois Lane so bad? And how are they similar? They talk back?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Subbing in, not the anon you're having the argument with, but MJ has a definitely defined personality in the source material which hasnt been done in an adaptation (except spectacular, but that had her early persona), why not use that?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >why not use that?
                That's what I'm saying. They act like MJ being a reporter means she HAS to act like Lois
                So why don't they just say
                >MJ being a reporter is a new idea but I would prefer a different personality

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Im agreeing with you. I think that reporter is just a bad job for MJ, but i could get it from the perspective of keeping the bugle in the story, but making it so she's mad peter is saving her just comes off as botched, especially because we dont have any idea why she wants to be one.

                He’s just a bendis cuck who never read any spider-man comics from before 2001

                Ult MJ was still better than this game's, because she never acted suicidal and there's more dashes of her old personality that are visible, but in general its a weird extrapolation of marriage era MJ to hs.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >but making it so she's mad peter is saving her just comes off as botched
                Come on, its been a while since I played but I'm pretty sure she was mad because Peter was worrying more over her than stopping the virus

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm pretty sure she was mad because Peter was worrying more over her than stopping the virus
                No. She's literally just mad because
                >"You won't let me act like you do, you hypocrite!!!"

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Nope, played the game fairly recently, and its because he keeps fussing over her. He still cares about the virus and it never gets in the way of the stuff.

                Ok so he was mothering her (justifiably). I can understand both sides. I don't see this as MJ being a bad character

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't see this as MJ being a bad character
                It's just MJ not acting like MJ. This thread is about the game "being one of the greatest adaptations," so it's fair to criticize the fact that she is nothing like MJ's characterization.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not that anon and as a guy who loves the game and actually agrees with the OP adaptation wise, MJ was a clear misfire. You can have a great adaptation and still have shit tidbits. Like Spectacular's version of Kraven was weak for example

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I dont think she's a bad character (although definitely a drag in the game), just a bad MJ. There's a difference.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Nope, played the game fairly recently, and its because he keeps fussing over her. He still cares about the virus and it never gets in the way of the stuff.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                How does her being a reporter benefit the story--at all? What, so we can have more shoehorned drama and MJ inserting herself into danger to do something that Peter could easily do?

                Those are Lois Lane traits. An in-character MJ wouldn't be this "ultra-motivated-reporter-woman" type. And trying to have her be a reporter as just MJ would be boring.

                Literally just use Betty Brant if you're going for the reporter GF angle with Spider-Man.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >What, so we can have more shoehorned drama and MJ inserting herself into danger to do something that Peter could easily do?
                More stakes make a good story. MJ trying to uncover criminal conspiracy and trying to expose street level mob bosses sounds cool to me
                >Literally just use Betty Brant
                Well Betty ain't popular with normies and Peter and MJ HAVE to be the status quo so frick me I guess

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >>What, so we can have more shoehorned drama and MJ inserting herself into danger to do something that Peter could easily do?
                >More stakes make a good story.
                >completely ignores how this is literally just Lois Lane
                What happened to "you can totally do this with MJ's personality"?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not ALL reporters are Lois Lane ffs
                I'm not even saying she HAS to be a reporter. I'm saying its one of many neat ideas so she can get more screentime

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Not ALL reporters are Lois Lane ffs
                But the way that you agreed she'd act for "the sake of more stakes for a good story," is literally just Lois Lane behavior.

                You’re not having a conversation, gaytard. You’re stopping one from happening

                Stopping idiots who don't know shit from having a conversation about things they only have vague knowledge about??? Oh, my Lord--I've aborted the cure to cancer, haven't I???

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Agree. Cinemaphile is dying. Every thread is filled with casuals and storytimes die in an hour

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >if you don’t dig past the 25 years of shit storytelling and read a Spider-Man comic written 5 years before I was born you’re actually a fake fan, and none of the 15 other media outlets for the character that have all had more commercial and critical success since then don’t count.
                Old man yells at plans

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Plane*

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                God forbid you know what you're talking about before joining a conversation, you homosexual.

                I'm sure people who are big into Sherlock Holmes won't want you butting in on their ratings of entries into the franchise in general when you've only read the most recent or most popular title.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Comic books and their characters aren’t comparable. Spider man had had hundreds of artists and writers, dozens of off the page adaptations. The most die hard fans of his couldn’t consume it all. If you’re discounting the last 2 decades of media surrounding the character we’re discussing the only uninformed motherfricker here is you. You’re playing favorites and your opinion is arbitrary,

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                * Aren’t comparable to a book like Sherlock Holmes. *

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Comic books and their characters aren’t comparable. Spider man had had hundreds of artists and writers
                Yeah, they are. Sherlock's pretty much the same way--it doesn't belong to just one person. And, they go much longer back than comics--all the way to 1887.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And spider-man has one clear main continuity unlike sherlock holmes.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Nope. Doyle wrote the originals. They always were and still are the only relevant stories, even though there weee other writers. Every reboot, movie, show, or modern adaptation is a retelling of the Doyle stories. Modern spider man is an ongoing continuity from his inception. If you want to know “his story” you have to read it all, which you also have not done.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >literally just Lois Lane behavior
                Do you not think a writer can write MJ as a reporter putting herself in harm's way while differentiating herself from Lois?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                No. It's literally Lois Lane's iconic behavior, all the way from the 40s. Any other love interest who does that is just going to wind up an obvious retread of the original.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I have to disagree. I think a good writer could do reporter MJ justice but luckily for all of y'all, I doubt reporter MJ is going to reappear outside of Insomniac

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe, but its a big hypothetical, and that writer would have to have a fantastic grasp on what makes MJ such a great love intrest rather than wanting to respond to something other adaptations have done like imnosiac.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I think a good writer could do reporter MJ justice
                See, there's difference between
                >Reporter MJ
                and
                >Crazy-ass Reporter MJ who don't listen to a word Peter says, and throws herself into danger for the sake of a story.
                I agree a reporter MJ could work--in theory--but not in this manner.

                Nope. Doyle wrote the originals. They always were and still are the only relevant stories, even though there weee other writers. Every reboot, movie, show, or modern adaptation is a retelling of the Doyle stories. Modern spider man is an ongoing continuity from his inception. If you want to know “his story” you have to read it all, which you also have not done.

                >They always were and still are the only relevant stories
                >the only relevant stories
                Sniff. Sniff, sniff.

                You boys smell that? Smells like a frickin' GOALPOST being moved.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                When did I say there aren’t irelevwnt Spider-Man stores? Actually, they mostly ARE irrelevant. To know about Sherlock Holmes you need to read his books. To “know” about spider man, all you really need to know is his origin story. The continuity is ever shifting but will always drift back to the status quo. Knowing about that time the beyonder took him to battle world does nothing to inform the character

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                He’s just a bendis cuck who never read any spider-man comics from before 2001

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Frick off. I read superior spiderman
                But if you want to recommend the best MJ stories so I can understand her REAL personality, I'm open to it

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >never read anything before 2001
                >read superior Spider-Man
                Sorry anon, I should’ve corrected that to never read anything before 2011. But I’d recommend reading JMSs spider-man if you don’t want to go back to the beginning and read through it to get the full scope of why she was the best supporting character in comics

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Frick off. I read superior spiderman
                laugh at this moron

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Mj wise i'd reccomend her first story under romita to get a feel for her party girl persona, then conway's first run to see her growing, then defalco's spotlight on her (note that it does have a big reveal/retcon) and from there to the marriage with parallel lives (its a self contained story so it should be the easiest to read) and JMS as big reccomendations.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                don't spoonfeed him. If he cared he would've read it already

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                We all gotta try and help.

                Admittedly that’s not a hard thing to do with spidey though, throughout the years he’s never really had a great adaptation, there have been bits and pieces in each adaptation that've been great and single appearances in shows that are almost perfect. But he’s never gotten his BTAS that perfectly summed him up for normies in consumable seasons, closest we’ve gotten was spectacular but that never got a chance to leave high school

                The world takes everything we love.

                What was defalcos retcon?

                that mj knew that peter was spidey since before they met.

                We've had Spectacular, the 90s animated series, and even the Raimi trilogy is better than this game--at least in terms of being an adaptation.

                Wouldn't call this "one of the best." It's "pretty good," for me.

                I'd say its top 5/6, but it does make it one of the better ones. Depending on how you count the neversoft games.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I never took that as a retcon, I took that as a reason she never took him seriously as a partner until after Gwen’s death forcing her to grow up

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You’re such a fricking moron

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                why haven't you read it then? Why are you saying that Insomniac game is one of the best adaptations of the material if you only read superior spider-man? Explain.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                He's not me. I wasn't saying this game is the BEST adaptation but if I made a top 3
                1. Into the Spiderverse
                2. Spectacular
                3. Spiderman PS4

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                ITSV is at most an adaptation of miles than peter (if you count it as a peter one then it'd definitely be below spectacular and ps4), so judging at one just seems funky to me. I do really like it tho.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Wasn't thinking Peter adaptation, just Spiderman adaptation
                My favorite Peter is probably the Spectacular version
                The worst Peters are equally the 2018 cartoon and the Drake Peter

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Spider verse understood that Miles and Peter don’t work as Co-Spider-Men. I think that’s really what holds him back in the comics and games. When he’s working alongside Peter he will never be anything but discount spider man. Their relationship is always strangely antagonistic, with the writers usually Wharfing Pete to make miles look cooler. The original ultimate run (though it sucks for other reasons) and spiderverse understood that Miles needs room to breathe away from Peter to mature into his own character.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Oh totally, i think ITSV is pretty good because of that. But that its therefore hard to compare it with all the peter centric media.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, I agree basically. I think It’s a great movie for Spider-Man as an icon, and the message of the character, big not not for Peter as a person

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The movie itself shits on peter just reducing him to nothing more than A spider-man making him out to be a franchisee to be written out and not as a personal story, which is funny because there we really were no personal stories in that movie. Just a bunch of hack messages about the importance of branding l, spiderverse is the death of the brand frankly there will be jothing good again

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                whatever "brand" you think youre fighting for died some time in the late 1980s.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Nah spidey began to die in the early to mid 90s it wasn’t until miles popped around that I felt that marvel was enjoying killing it though

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I like that at least they gave him a happy ending (and the mj design is nice) but agreed.

                Gwen would be the worst choice out of the bunch unironically. It would mean either retconning "Oh yeah Gwen's been around this whole time, we just never mentioned her", or doing stupid multiverse meme bullshit that would ruin this universe/narrative. Plus she doesn't even offer anything fun for unique gameplay. And if they even remember that she wears a symbiote (which most writers forget) that lessens her odds even more because Venom will most likely take a character slot over her.

                So yeah, I'd still prefer Silk being playable honestly. Could even do a dad thing with Peter since she's been a shut in for years

                I dont want her in, but i think its the most likley. Probably "miles brand new classmate" or something to that effect, with captain stacy taking the role of watanabe. The symbiote thing also makes it a bit more likley if they dont want to have another spider-bite. Then again venom is probably the shoo-in for a third playable character (i just hope it's not harry or a growling monster-which feels almost granted).

                I would prefer it too, just doesnt seem super possible.

                Literally what the frick would lead you to come to a delusional conclusion like that? Are the TASM and MCU movies the only Spider-Man media you ever consumed?

                >terrible Peter both personality and looks-wise
                >terrible Spider-Man that over relies on tech (as opposed to gadgets)
                >terrible one note non-main villains that don't get the time they need
                >terrible realistic off-brand movie aesthetic
                >terrible MJ, JJJ, Black Cat, Norman
                >Miles
                >main story is nothing to write home about especially compared to Spider-Man 2
                I'm having trouble coming up with even one aspect it does notably well, let alone "the best", let alone multiple aspects

                Agreed that the non-main villains re really shallow, except tombstone strangley.
                Id say black cat and jj are fine. And that the peter is pretty good.

                Do dislike the norman a lot. And miles was pretty pointless outside of a spin off bait.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >jj
                >fine
                it's never a good thing when the creators start leaning into memes. that's a downward slope that leads right into flanderization.

                JJJ shouldn't be a Alex Jones parody. He's supposed to be a bit cowardly, not an apathetic prick.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but JJ was completely accurate in this game.
                >Brutally honest
                >Was legit right in certain circumstances
                >Defender of the people and rallied for them to help one another in these tough times
                But because someone made an Alex Jones joke you completely ignore that? Cmon. You should be b***hing about MCU JJ, who willingly endangered a minor and was called a unreliable news source in the movie

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >But because someone made an Alex Jones joke you completely ignore that? Cmon.
                God, get rid of your
                >I'm better than you, bro.
                attitude--you're obnoxious even through the screen.

                Secondly, he was a complete parody of Jones; that has nothing to do with "people's jokes". Don't be a disingenuous butthole.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                What about that post implies that? I don't think I'm better than you. Also why did you ignore my other points? He was accurate.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                JJ was fricking nailed the the game are you delusional? he backtracked on his relationship with Osborne as soon as he knew what he had done. he was rude and loud and absolutely brimming with journalistic integrity, except for his massive spider man blind spot.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                What was defalcos retcon?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Obviously it would be for her job documenting the seedy underbelly of New York
              ...How is that, at all, a rebuttal to what I said? Just because it's her job doesn't make it necessary for Peter's narrative.
              >MJ has never had a solid personality across all adaptations
              What a crock of shit. Just ignore her personality because people tend to screw it up anyway? And this is supposed to be a GOOD adaptation?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >necessary for Peter's narrative
                Why is being an actress necessary? At the end of the day, she's just a love interest. I'm just saying a reporter would be a better use for her than acting because it adds more stakes to the story. Saying MJ being a reporter is bad idea because "its not important to Peter's story" is nonsensical because her being a reporter would make her story more interconnected to Peter's
                > And this is supposed to be a GOOD adaptation?
                Adaptations aren't made to copy and paste old shit you liked necessarily. You should allow creativity to craft NEW personalities to fit the story

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Why is being an actress necessary?
                I didn't mention that. But, her role in the game just makes her a retread of Lois. It's a bad idea because,
                >If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >>If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
                So don't try anything new just to try it out? You do you but status quo is boring af to me

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >disingenuous argument
                Ah, I see you've conceded--if only unconsciously. I appreciate it.
                >present a counterargument instead of throwing a shitfit about it
                ...What shitfit? Why are you insisting I do things because YOU are upset?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You okay bro?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I forgot to click on a reply-number. Yeah, I think I'll live.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Frick parker cucks. It was great

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It was a lot of fun and the Underground were by far the most fun enemies to date, both in their abilities and their theme music, but it wasn’t enough to warrant a full-price release. I’m slightly less salty about it than I could be since I picked up the first game for £15, but still.

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hate that they made Peter a little b***h. He get's walked over in the game and begs MJ after the grand central station mission when she was in the wrong. Sable pushes him over and treats him like shit and never once gets called out on her crap, Cat lies to him and doesn't get held accountable.

    He only explodes at the end of the game at Otto, but for entirely separate reasons to the point that it can't be said that he was holding in a lot of anger or frustration. The game just made him very insipid.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You end up kicking Sable’s ass in the DLC when she returns after the mess her PMC made. Not to mention she gets physically tortured. As for Cat, that’s peter being peter and doing the right thing at the end of the day. She ends up telling peter hammer heads weakness in the final DLC after saving him from being roadkill. MJ can frick off though.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Sable doesn't really get her ass kicked by Peter though, and she doesn't get chewed out by him for being a c**t, or called out for her behavior in the main game. But she does get tortured, I'll grant you that.

        Cat helps Peter, but I mean to say there was zero accountability for what she did, for what Sable did, or for what MJ did. Cat used Peter and lied to him, and risked his life. Then she faked her death. Nothing was made of that. She didn't even apologize.

        Sable doggedly chased after Spider-Man and let the city go to hell in a handbasket, and even at the eleventh hour tried to apprehend him despite having a job to do of protecting the city. And then in the DLC, has the nerve of being pissed at him for not being able to protect the city, as one man, when her entire force couldn't do have as good a job as he had. She took no responsibility for her actions, and Peter never called her out on anything she did.

        And MJ throughout the game, but specifically after the GCS mission, yeah frick her. She was just absolutely stupid. But it was Peter begging for her forgiveness. She owns up to her mistakes but there was zero outside force that made her do so, nothing calling her out on her stupidity. or stubbornness.

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus fricking Christ Cinemaphile really can’t function outside of shitposting can it? No we can’t talk about the popular thing because Cinemaphilentrarianism.

    Who fricking hurt you, Anon? Are you pissy that this shits over MCU Peter? Are you upset the books are currently shit and have to lash out at every Spidey thing? What is your major malfunction exactly? The sad thing is both Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile talk comics better than us

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >The sad thing is both Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile talk comics better than us
      fricking moron goes here to talk about videogame and expect praise

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Go back then. No one would miss you

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Go talk about your mediocre adaptation on Cinemaphile, where it at least has some merit for being a halfway decent game.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    game mj a cutie tho

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Miles dragged it down he lowers the stakes and really detracts from peter as a character. I’d rather we got a prequel with peter as an inexperienced spider-man rather than miles getting pushed at every opportunity, other than that I agree

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, a game where we start from Spider-Man's first day on the job ( a few hours after he catches Uncle Ben's killer and learns his lesson ), would be really cool. He has barely any gadgets, powers are still fairly weak, etc. It'd be cool since we'd physically see his progression into a better hero throughout the game. Also I love angsty angry teen Spider-Man.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        based and ditko pilled

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I like where they decided to start the game but yeah I’d like an Arkham origins Esq release about peter going through his first year or two as spider-man, maybe even start the game with him as a wrestler then play through the finding of uncle Ben’s killer. I just wish they didn’t ruin MJ and just let Betty brant be that character, god knows Betty isn’t that whiney but she fits that role. I wish they let MJ be the person pete went to for his costume designs for upgrading, I think it would’ve fit her better

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >best adaptations of the material
    What fricking material have they adapted? What classic stories of Spider-Man did they do? Christ, they couldn't even do his main fricking cast justice; MJ is just a whinier Lois Lane.

    Jesus, and people wonder why every other anon is constantly screaming,
    >"SHILL!!!"

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    All I see is one salty gatekeeping gay with nothing to say. It arguably is a good adaptation, and the anon has some other autistic hang up. But I guess newbies only want to talk about porn an tumblr cartoons

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Gatekeeping is necessary to keep validation-seeking normies out of a conversation they don't belong in.

      Cope.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You have yet to say why this is a bad adaptation. All you've really done is whine about buzzword tier strawmen in an attempt to derail. In fact an argument could be said that the only reason why you're upset about the game is the widespread larger acceptance. It certainly blows the frick out of any of the movies, that's for sure. Not saying all the films are bad, but the fricked with the material too much in each incarnation

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >You have yet to say why this is a bad adaptation
          Probably cuz I just got here lol. Never said it was a bad one in the first place.

          So, uh... nice tl;dr you got there.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You’re not having a conversation, gaytard. You’re stopping one from happening

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >one salty gatekeeping gay
      >one
      holy delusion

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Game is great but their take on MJ is shit. Pic related explains why. Still overall a good adaptation, despite what the raging tard tries to say.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >good adaptation
      but OP was trying to claim it's among the best. there's a big difference there.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        And you're entitled to feel different and present a counterargument instead of throwing a shitfit about it. Each film has weak areas, and I'm entitled to feel that the game overall does it better. Another strong adaptation is Spectacular Spider-Man, but it has its own minor faults too with the material

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Admittedly that’s not a hard thing to do with spidey though, throughout the years he’s never really had a great adaptation, there have been bits and pieces in each adaptation that've been great and single appearances in shows that are almost perfect. But he’s never gotten his BTAS that perfectly summed him up for normies in consumable seasons, closest we’ve gotten was spectacular but that never got a chance to leave high school

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          We've had Spectacular, the 90s animated series, and even the Raimi trilogy is better than this game--at least in terms of being an adaptation.

          Wouldn't call this "one of the best." It's "pretty good," for me.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >We've had Spectacular, the 90s animated series, and even the Raimi trilogy is better than this game
            Not him, but that's completely debatable. Each of those had their faults, yet you refuse to acknowledge that due to a kneejerk reaction.
            >Raimi had a weak Peter with organic webs
            >Spectacular had it set in high school and weird takes on Kraven, Tombstone, and Silver Sable.
            >90s Cartoon had A LOT wrong with it but is defended mostly for nostalgia

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Tombstone
              Spectacular made Tombstone better, not worse.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'm fine with Tombstone being a mob boss, just not being the top dog ala Kingpin role

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I think it would be cool to have Kingpin and Tombstone in an uneasy alliance. Kingpin can't break Tombstone, and Tombstone can't overpower Kingpin's superior criminal organization; they're forced to work with one another or tear each other apart.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >yet you refuse to acknowledge that due
              Also, why are you assuming this arbitrary shit about me? Jesus, focus more on the logic of arguments, less on how to craft the best ad-hom--I don't care how "ironic" you think that is to hear from a Cinemaphile poster.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I just presented some arguments, which you just chose to ignore. Take your own advice man. But if I personally attacked you, then I apologize

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Not that anon either, and i while i would agree that each of those have their changes ps4 defintely has far far more.

              Raimi has other bigger changers regarding the villains inherited from tas.

              Also the tombstone thing was due to legal factors outside of the show's control, he's pretty much just a reskinned kingpin. And while the kraven change was not the strongest it was part of a larger narrative, still understandable why its not super popular (even the writer said he regretted it). Tbfh the sable thing just makes her fit into spidey's world more. Comic sable should be a cap character. The hs thing was actually quite novel when it came out since it was the first adaptation to do so.

              TAS is one ill dog on a lot, but its still a great adaptation for the most part.

              I'm fine with Tombstone being a mob boss, just not being the top dog ala Kingpin role

              Thing is, none of the other major crime lords are physically strong enough to be a good fit, and tombstone was a last minute replacement to kingpin.

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    OP here, is the Insomniac MJ defender just trying to false flag or some shit?

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I just want a full animated adaptation of ultimate Spider-Man

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I hear people praise this game a lot, but I never see anyone post material for it.
    No webms of cool actions scenes, not screen shots of gripping moments or neat secrets, nothing.
    Why is that? Why is this game pure word-of-mouth?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because most spidey fans have already played it and know what they're referring to.

      Not that anon either, and i while i would agree that each of those have their changes ps4 defintely has far far more.

      Raimi has other bigger changers regarding the villains inherited from tas.

      Also the tombstone thing was due to legal factors outside of the show's control, he's pretty much just a reskinned kingpin. And while the kraven change was not the strongest it was part of a larger narrative, still understandable why its not super popular (even the writer said he regretted it). Tbfh the sable thing just makes her fit into spidey's world more. Comic sable should be a cap character. The hs thing was actually quite novel when it came out since it was the first adaptation to do so.

      TAS is one ill dog on a lot, but its still a great adaptation for the most part.
      [...]
      Thing is, none of the other major crime lords are physically strong enough to be a good fit, and tombstone was a last minute replacement to kingpin.

      This game had a better Doc Ock than Raimi, which I know someone is going to say is heresy. Raimi Otto has plenty to like, but he's not the petty mad scientist you should think of. Raimi instead is a do no wrong tragic villain obsessed with a reactor thanks to screwy AI.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I'd..actually agree. Ps4 Otto is a blend of raimi ock with his planner stuff from the comics. My only issue with him is that he's far too similar to the game's take on negative.

        Wasn't thinking Peter adaptation, just Spiderman adaptation
        My favorite Peter is probably the Spectacular version
        The worst Peters are equally the 2018 cartoon and the Drake Peter

        Fair enough. And sure i'd agree.

        Also hyphen.

  38. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, if they wanted to involve MJ more into the plot, they could have made her a phsycologist. She majored in that in her second time in college in the comics and it would be a nice way to give the villains some level of characterization.

  39. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Personally I believe Insomniac Spider-Man is one of the best adaptations of the material.
    You smoke anon?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yes we know the costume is shit, thanks captain obvious. However you're the casual reducing Felicia's character to a pair of breasts, which is annoying

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Waaahhh waaahh I need to coom insomniac why can’t I coom?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I get de-sexing felicia, but i still dont get giving her cumbersome armor.

  40. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why are two obvious shitposters shit flinging about MJ? It's a loop

  41. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Let's talk about villains we want to see in 2. Sure there's the obvious ones, but I really want to see some C or D listers in side missions too.
    >Mysterio
    >Sandman
    >Stegron
    >Vermin
    >Boomerang
    >Beetle
    >Spot
    >Swarm
    >Tarantula
    The list goes on. Lizard is already confirmed. Also you know what would be fantastic? The previous game villains such as Rhino, Vulture, and Electro being random crimes across New York you could stop as mini bosses. That would make it a true Spidey experience for me

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Mysterio seems like a given, he appeared in a movie and all the ps4 villains but negative had a big media appearence. I feel like beetle could happen since these games really like techy characters a lot.

      That'd be as much characterization as they got in the original.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        They could use any of the various versions of Beetle really. Would also like to see White Rabbit just for fun too.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          If they use any im expecting janice. Since tombstone was in the last game and spidey has so few female villains already.

          Is it just me or does it feel like far too much stuff uses white rabbit for the type of villain that she is?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Is it just me or does it feel like far too much stuff uses white rabbit for the type of villain that she is?
            What do you mean? Are you saying there are too many villains based on the public domain Alice in Wonderland story?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Oh no that i just see a lot white rabbit, both as a suggestion and in comics. Like she's even in the current run. I guess she's kinda by proxy the biggest female spidey villain.

              I never took that as a retcon, I took that as a reason she never took him seriously as a partner until after Gwen’s death forcing her to grow up

              Well retcon just means retroactive continuity, even if it doesnt contradict anything. I think its a wonderful reveal personally.

  42. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I actually think Silk would be a good 3rd playable character down the line, and easily worked into the plot given OSCORP's experiments with spiders.
    >Inb4 Slott
    Slott is a fat homosexual, naturally, but like Mister Negative she's a decent character that was salvaged by other writers (they wrote out the pheromone thing). Plus you just know they'll eventually want a playable chick for this game. Silk would at least have fun powers with her webs. It's either that, making Black Cat playable, or making MJ Spinneret. I don't see Spider-Gwen happening at all despite her inflated and stupid popularity because Gwen doesn't even exist in this continuity

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I feel that if they pick a third spider-character it'd end up be gwen, specifically because they've not mentioned her at all and they cant really do her death. And ill bet she'd be made the same age as miles too.

      Not that i want it either.

      Spinerett could be fun, do think there's more chances of that than silk tho.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Gwen would be the worst choice out of the bunch unironically. It would mean either retconning "Oh yeah Gwen's been around this whole time, we just never mentioned her", or doing stupid multiverse meme bullshit that would ruin this universe/narrative. Plus she doesn't even offer anything fun for unique gameplay. And if they even remember that she wears a symbiote (which most writers forget) that lessens her odds even more because Venom will most likely take a character slot over her.

        So yeah, I'd still prefer Silk being playable honestly. Could even do a dad thing with Peter since she's been a shut in for years

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Plus she doesn't even offer anything fun for unique gameplay
          But she does offer wonders when it comes to the propaganda side of things, which Insomniac and Sony seem to be more concerned about

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >But she does offer wonders when it comes to the propaganda side of things
            I'll take the bait and say Silk does that better too. She's a chick, and she hits the diversity quota

            I like that at least they gave him a happy ending (and the mj design is nice) but agreed.
            [...]
            I dont want her in, but i think its the most likley. Probably "miles brand new classmate" or something to that effect, with captain stacy taking the role of watanabe. The symbiote thing also makes it a bit more likley if they dont want to have another spider-bite. Then again venom is probably the shoo-in for a third playable character (i just hope it's not harry or a growling monster-which feels almost granted).

            I would prefer it too, just doesnt seem super possible.
            [...]
            Agreed that the non-main villains re really shallow, except tombstone strangley.
            Id say black cat and jj are fine. And that the peter is pretty good.

            Do dislike the norman a lot. And miles was pretty pointless outside of a spin off bait.

            That's a lot of stupid hoops to jump through just to add a shitty doppelganger Gwen. But I get what you're saying

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Just like they jumped trough a lot of hoops to get miles in, who wasnt even in the first 3 drafts of the plot.

              >jj
              >fine
              it's never a good thing when the creators start leaning into memes. that's a downward slope that leads right into flanderization.

              JJJ shouldn't be a Alex Jones parody. He's supposed to be a bit cowardly, not an apathetic prick.

              You do have a point. Him also not interacting with peter and spidey robs him of his impact.

              But they do have him make some points and he created scoprion in the past.

              Im betting he'll be hte mayor in the next game cause bnd stuff.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Just like they jumped trough a lot of hoops to get miles in
                Eh not really. They just made him a native to the universe and regulated him to a side character/sidekick. He doesn't have an impact on Peter's early years like Gwen is supposed to. Not a apt comparison

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Well peter's early years are by default different since Norman's not the goblin, i mean more within the game itself. Do agree that he has very little impact tho :P.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly would rather see Jess, Julia, or carapace Arana, if they're gonna add a gal. Someone with slightly different powers.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Honestly would rather see Jess, Julia, or carapace Arana
        Do any of them really have powers to warrant a 3rd slot? Jess is only recently being crammed into the family, and she's just Miles but without the webs at this point. Both Julia and Arana don't really do anything different to justify a move set. At least with Cindy you can weave complex web constructs. That could be a lot of fun. Plus she's arguably the easiest character to write in to just by being OSCORPS first human trial they illegally kept in a lab

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Julia's webs are visual telekinesis, she doesn't have to project them from her body and she could do crazy web constructs since its all mental.

          Arana used to have transforming toku armor, and I would want them to use that version rather than Spider-Girl 4.0.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Felicia will always be the one

  43. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Literally what the frick would lead you to come to a delusional conclusion like that? Are the TASM and MCU movies the only Spider-Man media you ever consumed?

    >terrible Peter both personality and looks-wise
    >terrible Spider-Man that over relies on tech (as opposed to gadgets)
    >terrible one note non-main villains that don't get the time they need
    >terrible realistic off-brand movie aesthetic
    >terrible MJ, JJJ, Black Cat, Norman
    >Miles
    >main story is nothing to write home about especially compared to Spider-Man 2
    I'm having trouble coming up with even one aspect it does notably well, let alone "the best", let alone multiple aspects

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I feel like people conflate the fact that they had fun playing this game with it being a good Spider-Man story.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Not really. Wouldn’t call it the most insane game ever but it was fun enough for me to replay the game on NG+ on its most difficult setting.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I love how you conveniently left out Raimi just because of defensive nostalgia. Raimi Spidey wasn't accurate either

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It wasn't accurate but it was good and visionary, the game, TASM, and MCU Spider-Men aren't accurate, but they're also terrible takes on the mythos and were made as soulless products with no vision.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Anon fricking Raimi was a soulless product too. For frick sake have some self-awareness man.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Nah the first two movies are clearly products of passion, unlike the vast majority of superhero movies that came after it

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Sorry anon, but if it’s something bad that means it’s a SOULLESS PRODUCT, but if it’s good, it ISN’T. That’s how it works :^)

              I just think it's hypocritical and moronic to prop up Raimi's universe when it's just as guilty of bad creative decisions as the other stuff we've talked about. It's not fair to give that universe a pass just by nostalgia. Raimi had a bad Peter, a completely OOC take on Otto, and had a b***h ass version of Eddie Brock. I'm trying to be fair here.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I can appreciate an inaccurate take if it's good and made with love, most of the best hero movies are like that in fact, they're rarely ever accurate.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not that anon, but i would disagree that it had a bad peter, more so a peter stuck in the pre-spider phase for a bit too long but i think he was fine within the first two movies. Ock seems very tas inspired to me, and i get what the idea with the arms was even if like with norman it robs him of personal responsability. Eddie is weirdly close to his earliest characterization as being a massive hypocrite unable to accept personal responsibility, just much scrawnier and looking like carnage.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I just think Tobey lacked charisma, and there wasn't much difference in dynamic between when he has the mask on/off. Like I said, they really fricked with the villain material in the movies, which is a personal hangup of mine

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Sure, i guess i'd agree with that. I do think that it got the core conflict behind the character very well, even if it hyperfocused on the romance (but so do all the following adaptations so..). There is a difference, but its more of a superman-ish one, in that he's more i guess role model-y as spidey.

                I think a lot of that is due to changes from TAS bleeding over, its very apparent with norman, otto and eddie. But while the first two work well in the movie proper (even if the changes make them worse foils to comic peter), eddie doesn't as well. In a weird way both goblin and ock were more like venom, with the whole royal we.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Here's why I'm more willing to lean into Insomniac Peter
                >Allowed to be an adult from the get go
                >Was given the chance to sacrifice Aunt May for the greater good
                >Had a new spin on Otto that kept the father figure stuff from Raimi but still retained the petty butthole intellectual in the end.
                >Remembered the early years when Norman actually gave a damn about Harry
                >Allowed Peter to showcase his technical side but not as broken/stupid as Iron Man ala MCU.
                >All of his villains retain their core comic quirks
                This game just had the unfortunate circumstance of putting up with a shit MJ though

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                While that's fair most of those dont really relate to raimi more so the comics post 2008, which y'know fair enough.

                Honestly the Norman is one of my biggest issues with it (after MJ and the really funky plotting for the last act). Excusing all of his actions as just to help his son just removes a lot of the dramatic weight he has as an antagonist. Him caring is good (hell post clone saga norman cared enough that all his schemes were for revenge for that, it was slott that made him apathetic to harry) but just makes him far far less personal. Him being mayor is also something i loathe, just such a cheap tactic to give the villains political power.

                >All of his villains retain their core comic quirks
                Idk, only rhino really does. Vulture at most keeps the element from the kino dematties story, but that's massivley underplayed. Electro is a quipster and scorpion is fine i guess. They all just come off super underbaked. Oh and tombstone is calmer ala ssm while kingpin is just angry like a bad take on his netflix personality.

                Also im guessing you're that anon that always posts in the spidey threads about norman, right? We've met before then kek.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >while kingpin is just angry like a bad take on his netflix personality.
                Actually I think their Kingpin was completely fair. It's totally in character for him to have a temper, and the only time we encountered him was when his empire began to fall apart. The difference between this version and Netflix's Kingpin is that Insomniac Fisk isn't blatantly autistic. In the short time we got him, I'd argue he was better than MCU Fisk
                >Also im guessing you're that anon that always posts in the spidey threads about norman, right? We've met before then kek.
                I don't know who you're referring to honestly. What Norman comments?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Im not the biggest fan of netflix kingpin (he's a fantastic character, but a bit too prelud-y for actual kingpin for my tastes), so im using it as a pejorative lol. I think its allright for what it is, but he doesn't really have much of a personality. This is abit disappointing since he's this version of spidey's greatest enemy for 8 years.

                Ah nothing, just an anon that always talks about norman liking harry back in the Romita days and that being lost later. You sounded a bit like them.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry anon, but if it’s something bad that means it’s a SOULLESS PRODUCT, but if it’s good, it ISN’T. That’s how it works :^)

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It was a product certainly but it wasn’t soulless, it was like the Tim burton Batman movies, where a director was given certain constraints but were still allowed to make their own vision of a film based on a decades old franchise

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              And what determines "soul" exactly? Insomniac came to SONY to say "we want to make this game", and their team was passionate about Spidey/his comic history. They even asked Chris Gage to write it. How does the game not have it?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Tbf, basing designs off of whichever the most recent movie is is pretty soulless tbqh famalam tbhlesu

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                ....Except the game didn't do that? I don't see a trench coat on Otto, nor do I see Rhino being a giant robot.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >....Except the game didn't do that?
                ...Except they did? See Peter's appearance?
                >bargain-bin Andrew Garfield
                to
                >bootleg, K-Pop Tom Holland

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Oh you meant the face model thing. Okay now I see what you're driving at. Yeah I don't really care for the face change either, but I don't really see Tom Holland's likeness. Plus I don't give a shit about either face model, because the important thing is that Peter is wearing a mask most of the time. I'd be more upset if Yuri stopped being the voice actor, or they really leaned into Peter meeting other Avengers which would only detract from the main appeal of the game. You know now that I think of it, I don't think it was deliberate synergy changing the face. To me it struck me more as the original face model actor asking for more money after the game's success, which SONY told him to frick off since voice actor Yuri Lowenthal was far more important. But that's just speculation on my part of course

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Do think that ps4 has enough soule i suppose. I wouldnt say chris gage ranks particularly high as a spidey writer tho, a very random pick.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Eh I think he's capable enough. Dude wrote Avengers Academy, right?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, just saying that they didnt really put any big spidey writer. So i wouldnt consider it like a big metric. Also judging by the comic tie in written just by him compared to the game that has 4 co-writers i wouldnt say he was the most important writer.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I actually think that was a good thing. The thing is about Spidey writers now is that they're either well passed their prime, or have such big heads that they're so far up their own ass that the work suffers due to ego. Gage was a smart choice for this, especially since he was tackling a half-realized idea Slott came up with (Mister Negative) and actually did something with it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Not disputing that, what i am disputing is how much of it is actually gage or not, since again there were 3 other writers and his other work is no where near as strong.

                And idk people like dematties still do good work and dont seem up their own ass.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                In fact what ive been able to find points that gage mostly cleaned up diaolgue and the main writer was Paquette

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                In fact what ive been able to find points that gage mostly cleaned up diaolgue and the main writer was Paquette

                Ah. Well regardless I'm glad things worked out the way they did. Thankfully Slott just collected a paycheck and didn't interfere at all with the development. My fear right now is SONY pigeonholing Insomniac into just making superhero games, not allowed to tackle Ratchet or becoming overtaxed. But hey they said they wanted to do these things so I guess its fine. Insomniac should try doing Iron Man later given their experience with gadget based combat.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                My great fear is how they'll do venom since harry venom misses the appeal of both characters as antagonists intrinsically. :/

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe it'll start with Harry, then quickly move on to Peter. That could be another set-up for Harry's inferiority complex toward Peter--though, I'm not sure if they're taking his character in that direction for this story.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe, but i kind of expect it to end with harry after all. And with how much softer this norman is, i dont think you could do much normal Harry stuff.

                You know I'm not actually convinced Harry will be Venom. Judging by how he and the symbiote looked inside that tank, they're not bonding, almost as if the creature is trying to get away. The symbiote may realize that it can't heal Harry's condition, and sees him as a bad host. Plus SONY may not want brand confusion, as people associate Venom with Eddie.

                My personal theory is that
                >Osborn got the symbiote via OSCORP space program
                >Threw it in a tank with Harry, and it has no choice but to keep him alive
                >Events in 2 lead to the symbiote escaping OSCORP, which causes Harry to degrade
                >Norman hires Kraven to track/retrieve the alien before time runs out, funding every want he could need to get the job done. Kraven only wants Spider-Man

                Maybe, tho making harry venom would be an easy way to make this stand out. And if sony wants that then they wouldnt let venom be a villain period.

                If they do eddie. im betting he'll end up as a monster rather than quippy and energetic.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You know I'm not actually convinced Harry will be Venom. Judging by how he and the symbiote looked inside that tank, they're not bonding, almost as if the creature is trying to get away. The symbiote may realize that it can't heal Harry's condition, and sees him as a bad host. Plus SONY may not want brand confusion, as people associate Venom with Eddie.

                My personal theory is that
                >Osborn got the symbiote via OSCORP space program
                >Threw it in a tank with Harry, and it has no choice but to keep him alive
                >Events in 2 lead to the symbiote escaping OSCORP, which causes Harry to degrade
                >Norman hires Kraven to track/retrieve the alien before time runs out, funding every want he could need to get the job done. Kraven only wants Spider-Man

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I think Gage was a mildly successful TV writer before going to comics, so it’s why he’s typically the one to branch out into the broader spectrum and write the larger products like the fortnight crossovers and what not

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I mean dematties has done stuff for marvel's animaition side (wrote for tas for example) and JMS started in TV.

                I think here its more due to him being slott's understudy than anything else.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                From a quick scan of his Wikipedia, it seems gage is just someone whose had minor success in the four sectors, tv, film, comics, video games, so it’s not to surprising that he gets shortlisted for projects like this. And he’s not so much slotts “understudy” but he’s more of a “motivator” in that he motivates Slott to not lose his job.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Fair.

                Well more that he filled in issues for slott, and all his solo spidey stuff is tied to slott's. Id say he's better sure.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                And what is their vision exactly? Because to me the game read as the most safe generic diluted subversive modern take on the material imaginable, there wasn't a single element you could latch onto and say "here, this is the game's identity" except maybe the "desperately wants to be a movie" part. Who exactly is the visionary behind it?

                Raimi movies' campiness, Tobey's meek Peter, Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head, the soft naive 60s vibe and aesthetic, hammed up Norman, the perfect JJJ, the edgy Peter dance etc are all part of the original trilogy's identity, and those all come from Raimi's unique feelings and ideas, there's nothing like that in the game.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Just have the (You), man

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      spectacular spider-man fanboys are moronic

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >only adaptation made by a creator who likes Spider-Man and actually read AND wrote for ASM
        Cope all you want but nothing is topping Spectacular any time soon

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          your shit ended and is never coming back cope harder Spectacular homosexual

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Did you think this post made you look badass or something? God, that pic is disgusting.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              I wish they didn't change Pete to have such a baby face.

              cope

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                have a nice day Black personhomosexual troonyisraelite normalgay so'yboy furhomosexual xcuck so'ychugging chud cumbrain coomer vermin supreme holotrannie holobronie weebtard poltard cuck. And go back to

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              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Seems I encompass ALL the colors of the autism rainbow. Neat.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I wish they didn't change Pete to have such a baby face.

  44. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    seeing people trying so hard to hate this game is funny as hell

  45. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I like it accept for
    >MJ
    >Hammerhead
    >Miles existing at all
    >some of the more tech-looking villains like electro and vulture
    >seemingly doing Harry!Venom which is shit
    >No cornrows on Norman or Harry
    >Lack of most of Peter's supporting cast aside from cameos and mentions while focusing on the aforementioned shitty MJ and Miles

  46. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like they're gonna frick up wolverine

  47. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I mean it doesn't have peter being cucked so that's a plus. The only downside? Miles.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What a way to contradict yourself

  48. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I agree, it's an excellent take. I particularly enjoyed Otto and Peter's dynamic. Both games are just great Spider-Man stories. I couldn't be less interested in the MJ segments in the first game though. And holy frick nu-Pete's face in the remastered version and Miles game is bad. Does not match the voice at all and he looks younger than Miles.

  49. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Spiderman Web of Shadows or bust, zoomer.

  50. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    90s TAS > your zoomer shit.
    Your comics haven't been good for decades and your games suck as well. Now please go back to Cinemaphile or whatever you came from.

  51. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

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    There is currently a rogue janitor on Cinemaphile shamelessly deleting 50-400 reply threads. File a complaint about him and use in-browser VPNs too. Get him fired.

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