Pixar head discusses how executives plan to fix Pixar's issues

Pixar head discusses how executives plan to fix Pixar's issues

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just make movies for families and stop making movies for alphabet people.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yep films like Luca and Elemental surely are aimed at alphabet people, the sheer amount of gay content in those films is staggering.

      America is being spiritually forced to collapse now. They’ll never see it or change for the better because it’s orchestrated.

      this is another good, one spiritual collapse frequently results in poor box office results. you must make a spiritually fulfilling film like Barbie to make money these days

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the sheer amount of gay content in those films is staggering.
        Feel free to list it, unless you are just another braindead culture "warrior" who only repeats bullshit from /misc/ and twitter.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That post was clearly sarcastic you fricking moron.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sarcasm and irony are for homosexuals.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Right over your head pal. Maybe wanna brush up on reading context clues before making an ass of yourself?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're right, those films weren't made for alphabet people. They were made for brown people, which is nearly as bad, you pedantic little homosexual.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There's no difference between alternate sexualities and being Hispanic
          This is the same genius thinking that led them to include black and brown on the sexual Pride flag.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, and the browns allowed it to happen since it gave them more political sway. Now they're starting to understand that tying their political fortunes with a collection of fudgepackers isn't the best long term play.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >allowed it to happen
              How could they stop it? There will always be a few tokens in every racial/ethnic group who will be paraded around to tell the media they approve of it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, and the browns allowed it to happen since it gave them more political sway. Now they're starting to understand that tying their political fortunes with a collection of fudgepackers isn't the best long term play.

          you're entirely right! how dare those people be born brown, if they wanted to be good upstanding citizens they should've just been born white, how hard is that?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          italians aren't that brown

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Elemental had the enby character

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moron

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Keep losing sales.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I guess letting our directors make fluff pieces about their lives wasn't the best idea
    Oh you fricking think?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Luca wasn't that bad. the problem was when it was taken over by all the pedophiles insisting it was about two gay kids. It's the gay insinuations and implications in the stories that pushes people away to watch them and take their kids to watch them. Nobody wants to watch something you know pedos are enjoying.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Nobody wants to watch something you know pedos are enjoying.
        "lol," said Made in Abyss. "lmao."

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          isn't that like 90% of the dtva tribegays as well

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >executives plan to fix Pixar's issues
    That's the problem.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Lightyear bombed in theaters
    >"let's not make any more original movies"
    I haven't even really enjoyed Pixar's latest output but they're delusional if they think that they can just coast on their IPs. Do they ever stop and wonder why all those IPs did well?

    I haven't liked any of their recent output but if you're telling me that the thing wrong with them is that they "weren't based on existing IP" they're fricking stupid. You can make original movies that people want to see if you don't make them extremely niche and then simultaneously fill them up with all the same shitty Pixar story tropes they've been using for 30 years.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bombed in theaters
      >>"let's not make any more original movies"
      kek when you put it like that

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    America is being spiritually forced to collapse now. They’ll never see it or change for the better because it’s orchestrated.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't wait until DisneyPixar shits out more soulless sequels of their existing IPs with piss poor writing while their numbers continue to decline.
    Then it'll be back to where they were originally with
    > "Durr, what happened. Originals = Low Number , Existing Property = High Number, that's all there is to it, right? Why no interest?"

    All this moronic mental gymnastics without actually analyzing their low effort slop.
    >generally bad writing
    >overly sanitized, inclusive, and safe content to avoid offending anyone
    >uninspired character design
    >kids having other competitive content at their finger tips
    The average child being more likely to have watched Hazbin Hotel and Digital Circus on Youtube than ever having watched Lightyear should be a sign that they need to change their approach.

    Avoiding autobiographical type stories doesn't guarantee quality at all.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly couldn't have said it better.
      I guess what I'd add is that Pixar lately seems to think that putting as much effort into the visuals as possible will mean that people will put up with bland and uninspired stories.

      It's like we've finally reached the point where every other studio can do the visual fidelity Pixar did up until the 2010s, so they feel the need to overcompensate. That's why we got the extremely realistic environments in Good Dinosaur, or the gritty realism of Lightyear. I remember how big a deal they tried to make the realistic cat in Toy Story 4, but that didn't save the film from being shit. Every Pixar movie feels like a tech demo with the same bland story elements and tryhard "feel emotional now, please" scenes. It's high effort in all the wrong places.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly couldn't have said it better.
      I guess what I'd add is that Pixar lately seems to think that putting as much effort into the visuals as possible will mean that people will put up with bland and uninspired stories.

      It's like we've finally reached the point where every other studio can do the visual fidelity Pixar did up until the 2010s, so they feel the need to overcompensate. That's why we got the extremely realistic environments in Good Dinosaur, or the gritty realism of Lightyear. I remember how big a deal they tried to make the realistic cat in Toy Story 4, but that didn't save the film from being shit. Every Pixar movie feels like a tech demo with the same bland story elements and tryhard "feel emotional now, please" scenes. It's high effort in all the wrong places.

      I'm going to add that Pixar originally was heavily inspired by golden age movies and it showed up in everything from their writing to cinematography to character writing in general. They felt like genuine Hollywood movies that just so happened to be animated and had mass appeal, now the writing and cinematography feels secondary to the visual effects and it just makes everything feel flat.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The average child being more likely to have watched Hazbin Hotel and Digital Circus on Youtube than ever having watched Lightyear should be a sign that they need to change their approach.
      I get the feeling Disney doesn't even know about or acknowledge their competition with how big they've grown. Someone's gonna kick them off their pedestal soon

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if shrek 5 is good it's all ogre

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Lightyear bombed, so we're going to make more sequels and spinoffs
    Are they moronic

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its an executive plan so.
      yes.
      they are moronic to an almost comical degree.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I skimmed this but if this is really about not pandering to the problems of the writers and directors, that's fricking awesome to see officially acknowledged as an annoyance. The trend of relatability has been the death of entertainment for like a fricking decade now, instead of just a fun side option at best.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Lightyear failed
    >the solution is to focus even heavier on sequels and spin-offs
    ???

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Disney's keys to success:
    >Take beloved tale from the world, and show a part of the world, so it feels like an adventure of that place in time
    >Have morals and theming that reaches everyone regardless of where they are, like family, death, etc
    >Have excellent song writers and animators bring it to life
    Obviously the last point is the most sore here, with Disney, but still, Moana and Encanto largely did well in the last decade doing this. Pixar's keys to success:
    >?
    What's been Pixar's keys to success? They're very heavily character driven, so maybe writing, and acting?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pixar's original thing was really good writing, and also their 'what if X had feelings' high concept films that disney wouldn't generally do. Like Soul, I guess.

      An elderly man such as Carl from Up isn't a typical western animated protagonist for instance, would still be considered a weird choice these days.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pixar at least used to be "the boy studio".
      Regular Disney movies have a reputation of being girly movies that are all about princesses, romance, and singing.
      Pixar first put out a male bonding movie about a cowboy and a space man. Then they put out a pseudo-Samurai movie about insects, and then they made a movie about monsters, and a movie about cars. It was all typical young boy stuff.
      Now we've got "what if elements were racist".

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >how do we manage to make our movies have even more wide appeal then they already do
    at some point you have to realize you can't appeal to everybody with your movies and just make something people will fricking like

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They just need to fricking stop inflating the budgets with long development periods, corporate retreats, and unnecessary tech development. Does a fricking romcom really need to be this monstrous SFX technical undertaking that costs $200mil? Imagine if they just stylized the whole thing and used more 2D draw-overs for the water and fire? Try to have it match the watercolor concept art instead of going for realistic fire simulation.

    Like, come on. Elemental made WAY more than the Bad Guys, but one is considered successful and the other just barely broke even. Gee, I wonder fricking why.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It seems like a lot of budget also goes into "research and development" , I guess because it allows them to show off whatever new animation technique they did for animation festivals and award shows.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]
        Animation and gaming are facing a problem where the development cost is outweighing any potential profits unless things make the absolute maximum amount of money possible.

        when it looks like there's a black hole in the budget and they blame it on "too much R&D," it's always, ALWAYS because they're overpaying administrative bloat (AKA the people who can, and usually do, cut the R&D budget and redirect as much as possible to themselves).

        the "R&D" budget never seems to erase the black hole in the budget, because the black hole is the people making budget decisions - spreadsheet warriors with MBAs whose real productive output (when it isn't outright destructive) could be replaced with highschoolers with a few weeks of training.

        this is why stuff like

        They just need to fricking stop inflating the budgets with long development periods, corporate retreats, and unnecessary tech development. Does a fricking romcom really need to be this monstrous SFX technical undertaking that costs $200mil? Imagine if they just stylized the whole thing and used more 2D draw-overs for the water and fire? Try to have it match the watercolor concept art instead of going for realistic fire simulation.

        Like, come on. Elemental made WAY more than the Bad Guys, but one is considered successful and the other just barely broke even. Gee, I wonder fricking why.

        happens - the production for stuff like that hasn't been split across a sea of contractor companies with their own administrative bloat monsters to feed, and thus the primary goal of the organization is still "making movies" and not "providing more fuel to make the C-suite even fatter"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          a rant not relevant to disney, which has infinite money at this point

          Monsters Inc, Nemo, and WALL-E all predate Up! and definitely contributed to the expectation of, "Pixar sad scene". The main difference is that they all didn't predictably happen in the 3rd act and they had a lot of movies inbetween that didn't have tearjerkers. Toy Story's saddest scene is Woody and Buzz just talking; just a typical Hero's Journey low-point scene. Same with A Bugs Life, Toy Story 2, and The Incredibles.

          But now it's like... They MUST happen in the third act, they MUST start crying, it NEEDS to be the scene that the movie has been building up to. Yeah, that emotional beat works for Soul or Coco, but it feels forced-as-frick in Turning Red and Elemental.

          pixar movies are all fairly standard three act structure with the obligatory third act friend breakup and reunite, this is not new.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It seems like a lot of budget also goes into "research and development" , I guess because it allows them to show off whatever new animation technique they did for animation festivals and award shows.

      Animation and gaming are facing a problem where the development cost is outweighing any potential profits unless things make the absolute maximum amount of money possible.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Disney buys Pixar
    >Disney poaches everyone with talent for Disney's internal 3D studio leaving Pixar with nothing but chaff and interns
    >"Gee I wonder why quality declined"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >everyone with talent went to Disney
      >their stuff got even worse
      How do they do it? Rock bottom can't come fast enough, they had to start innovating?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        studio leadership needs purged, that's my take on it. you can have the most talented people in the business, but if you don't guide them efficiently they'll waste their talents mediocre projects

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        3d disney was doing really good for a while after they bought pixar. wreck it ralph was basically a pixar movie wearing a hat.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pixar should focus a bunch of effort on just making an extremely funny animated comedy. Don't force in one of those typical Pixar tearjerker scenes that are now expected. Make it simple, do it on a lower budget, make it really fricking funny. Comedy movies do pretty well in theaters and ten times better on streaming.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >one of those typical Pixar tearjerker scenes
      It sucks this is what the Pixar "brand" became after Up. Other movies had emotional moments but it didn't feel like they were always trying to make people cry.
      The original Toy Story is pretty much just an animated buddy comedy, the "sad" scenes are mostly just effective story beats.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Monsters Inc, Nemo, and WALL-E all predate Up! and definitely contributed to the expectation of, "Pixar sad scene". The main difference is that they all didn't predictably happen in the 3rd act and they had a lot of movies inbetween that didn't have tearjerkers. Toy Story's saddest scene is Woody and Buzz just talking; just a typical Hero's Journey low-point scene. Same with A Bugs Life, Toy Story 2, and The Incredibles.

        But now it's like... They MUST happen in the third act, they MUST start crying, it NEEDS to be the scene that the movie has been building up to. Yeah, that emotional beat works for Soul or Coco, but it feels forced-as-frick in Turning Red and Elemental.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >dude, what if we personified an abstract concept!
    Maybe they should just stop making that particular movie, and come up with a good story again.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    maybe pixar should try making that cancelled movie about the endangered lizards again

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >suits
    >clueless
    Pick both now and always.

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